OT: Nosferatu is hiring

Paint me thoroughly flabbergasted, but my former
employer/nemesis/antichrist is hiring for technical positions _in this
country_.

Openings are for an "IT project leader," which is that to which the U.S.
programmers got reclassified when the coding work got sent to
Cheapistan, and "senior technical support," which tells me the one
support person of any value (whose value was mainly his ability to lie
with impunity and finesse to customers about the scope and impact of
crises) quit or got fired.

Neither opening is posted with any online service. I only found out
about them because my well-meaning parents provide me with the weekly
classifieds from the local Sunday paper. The jobs aren't even listed
with the paper's own site. I don't know what kind of candidates they
hope to get with a listing like this. Since this has to be a conscious
choice, I can't begin to imagine what gambit Nosferatu has planned.

All the remaining project managers got laid off on December 31st of last
year, as part of N.'s plan to directly (micro)manage the software
development process. To hire someone for on-site is a serious
retrenchment. Support was supposed to be sent to the group in the
Philippines, about which I've said little to this point.

A note on the Filipino support abortion:
Some companies sent support overseas out of cheapness, others have a
more legitimate idea of trying to provide round-the-clock support
without a night shift by forwarding calls to a locale where it's
currently daylight. N. was obviously motivated by the former, but was
turning the latter on its head. Despite the company's service being
available 24 hours, it received 99% of its use 8:00AM - 8:00PM ET.
There was really no need for after-hours support. In a move that made
sense only to N., he got the idea to forward support calls (using VoIP
over a path that was 128kbps, and shared with the data traffic, on the
Philippine end, if you can believe that one) to the "office" in Manila.
Thing is, Manila is 13 hours (if I recall correctly) ahead of the
eastern U.S., so the Filipinos would be answering support calls during
what amounted to a night shift. Given the truly byzantine and soul-
crushing nature of the support required, I guess having support techs
half-zonked-out, or else reduced to quivering catatonia by caffeine
overdoses, added an extra frisson to support calls.


--
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anonymous
Tue Jun 15 10:26:28 CDT 2004

u talk 2 much vigo
>-----Original Message-----
>Paint me thoroughly flabbergasted, but my former
>employer/nemesis/antichrist is hiring for technical
positions _in this
>country_.
>
>Openings are for an "IT project leader," which is that to
which the U.S.
>programmers got reclassified when the coding work got
sent to
>Cheapistan, and "senior technical support," which tells
me the one
>support person of any value (whose value was mainly his
ability to lie
>with impunity and finesse to customers about the scope
and impact of
>crises) quit or got fired.
>
>Neither opening is posted with any online service. I
only found out
>about them because my well-meaning parents provide me
with the weekly
>classifieds from the local Sunday paper. The jobs aren't
even listed
>with the paper's own site. I don't know what kind of
candidates they
>hope to get with a listing like this. Since this has to
be a conscious
>choice, I can't begin to imagine what gambit Nosferatu
has planned.
>
>All the remaining project managers got laid off on
December 31st of last
>year, as part of N.'s plan to directly (micro)manage the
software
>development process. To hire someone for on-site is a
serious
>retrenchment. Support was supposed to be sent to the
group in the
>Philippines, about which I've said little to this point.
>
>A note on the Filipino support abortion:
>Some companies sent support overseas out of cheapness,
others have a
>more legitimate idea of trying to provide round-the-clock
support
>without a night shift by forwarding calls to a locale
where it's
>currently daylight. N. was obviously motivated by the
former, but was
>turning the latter on its head. Despite the company's
service being
>available 24 hours, it received 99% of its use 8:00AM -
8:00PM ET.
>There was really no need for after-hours support. In a
move that made
>sense only to N., he got the idea to forward support
calls (using VoIP
>over a path that was 128kbps, and shared with the data
traffic, on the
>Philippine end, if you can believe that one) to
the "office" in Manila.
>Thing is, Manila is 13 hours (if I recall correctly)
ahead of the
>eastern U.S., so the Filipinos would be answering support
calls during
>what amounted to a night shift. Given the truly
byzantine and soul-
>crushing nature of the support required, I guess having
support techs
>half-zonked-out, or else reduced to quivering catatonia
by caffeine
>overdoses, added an extra frisson to support calls.
>
>
>--
>http://www.vigo-alessi.com/images/products/1362.jpg
>.
>

Neil
Tue Jun 15 12:22:28 CDT 2004

Vigo Breadcrumbs <vigo@breadcrumbbs.com> wrote in news:wqEzc.94624
$0X2.4224022@twister.tampabay.rr.com:

> Cheapistan,

I love these. Like the Dot Commies phrase, these make a Vigo post truely
memorable...


--
Neil MCNGP #30
"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"

Neil
Tue Jun 15 12:26:29 CDT 2004

<anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in news:1c7aa01c452ed$20da9820
$a301280a@phx.gbl:

> u talk 2 much vigo

no he doesn't! no stop spoiling the story....

--
Neil MCNGP #30
"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"

Ken
Tue Jun 15 12:29:21 CDT 2004

"Neil" <neilmcse@nospamforyou.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9509880D3761Aneilmcsehotmailcom@207.46.248.16...
> Vigo Breadcrumbs <vigo@breadcrumbbs.com> wrote in news:wqEzc.94624
> $0X2.4224022@twister.tampabay.rr.com:
>
> > Cheapistan,
>
> I love these. Like the Dot Commies phrase, these make a Vigo post truely
> memorable...
>

So, Neil, are those new kneepads comfortable?

*turns and casually walks away, because Neil is too old, and therefore slow,
to catch up to me*

Uh oh!

*runs*

--

KB - MCNGP "silent thug" #26

first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com

Ken
Tue Jun 15 12:34:35 CDT 2004

"Neil" <neilmcse@nospamforyou.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9509880D3761Aneilmcsehotmailcom@207.46.248.16...
> Vigo Breadcrumbs <vigo@breadcrumbbs.com> wrote in news:wqEzc.94624
> $0X2.4224022@twister.tampabay.rr.com:
>
> > Cheapistan,
>
> I love these. Like the Dot Commies phrase, these make a Vigo post truely
> memorable...

as an addendum to my last (and mean - sorry Neil) post, I must confest that
I also enjoy a sprinkling of breadcrumbs in this NG.

--

KB - MCNGP "silent thug" #26

first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com

Neil
Tue Jun 15 12:41:46 CDT 2004

"Ken Briscoe" <youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in news:Of1F$7vUEHA.3944
@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl:

> I must confest that
> I also enjoy a sprinkling of breadcrumbs in this NG.
>

So, Ken, are those new kneepads comfortable?

--
Neil MCNGP #30
"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"

Neil
Tue Jun 15 12:41:22 CDT 2004

"Ken Briscoe" <youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in
news:up4IE5vUEHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl:

> "Neil" <neilmcse@nospamforyou.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9509880D3761Aneilmcsehotmailcom@207.46.248.16...
>> Vigo Breadcrumbs <vigo@breadcrumbbs.com> wrote in news:wqEzc.94624
>> $0X2.4224022@twister.tampabay.rr.com:
>>
>> > Cheapistan,
>>
>> I love these. Like the Dot Commies phrase, these make a Vigo post
>> truely memorable...
>>
>
> So, Neil, are those new kneepads comfortable?
>
> *turns and casually walks away, because Neil is too old, and therefore
> slow, to catch up to me*
>
> Uh oh!
>
> *runs*
>

WHY I OUTTA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
oh, it's just ken. never mind. why waste the effort....punks...

--
Neil MCNGP #30
"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"

billyw
Tue Jun 15 12:44:09 CDT 2004

pussy...

having to apologise...



"Ken Briscoe" <youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in message
news:Of1F$7vUEHA.3944@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> "Neil" <neilmcse@nospamforyou.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9509880D3761Aneilmcsehotmailcom@207.46.248.16...
> > Vigo Breadcrumbs <vigo@breadcrumbbs.com> wrote in news:wqEzc.94624
> > $0X2.4224022@twister.tampabay.rr.com:
> >
> > > Cheapistan,
> >
> > I love these. Like the Dot Commies phrase, these make a Vigo post truely
> > memorable...
>
> as an addendum to my last (and mean - sorry Neil) post, I must confest
that
> I also enjoy a sprinkling of breadcrumbs in this NG.
>
> --
>
> KB - MCNGP "silent thug" #26
>
> first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com
>
>

billyw
Tue Jun 15 12:43:25 CDT 2004

haha... f'n brilliant....

bloody capitalists

"Vigo Breadcrumbs" <vigo@breadcrumbbs.com> wrote in message
news:wqEzc.94624$0X2.4224022@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
> Paint me thoroughly flabbergasted, but my former
> employer/nemesis/antichrist is hiring for technical positions _in this
> country_.
>
> Openings are for an "IT project leader," which is that to which the U.S.
> programmers got reclassified when the coding work got sent to
> Cheapistan, and "senior technical support," which tells me the one
> support person of any value (whose value was mainly his ability to lie
> with impunity and finesse to customers about the scope and impact of
> crises) quit or got fired.
>
> Neither opening is posted with any online service. I only found out
> about them because my well-meaning parents provide me with the weekly
> classifieds from the local Sunday paper. The jobs aren't even listed
> with the paper's own site. I don't know what kind of candidates they
> hope to get with a listing like this. Since this has to be a conscious
> choice, I can't begin to imagine what gambit Nosferatu has planned.
>
> All the remaining project managers got laid off on December 31st of last
> year, as part of N.'s plan to directly (micro)manage the software
> development process. To hire someone for on-site is a serious
> retrenchment. Support was supposed to be sent to the group in the
> Philippines, about which I've said little to this point.
>
> A note on the Filipino support abortion:
> Some companies sent support overseas out of cheapness, others have a
> more legitimate idea of trying to provide round-the-clock support
> without a night shift by forwarding calls to a locale where it's
> currently daylight. N. was obviously motivated by the former, but was
> turning the latter on its head. Despite the company's service being
> available 24 hours, it received 99% of its use 8:00AM - 8:00PM ET.
> There was really no need for after-hours support. In a move that made
> sense only to N., he got the idea to forward support calls (using VoIP
> over a path that was 128kbps, and shared with the data traffic, on the
> Philippine end, if you can believe that one) to the "office" in Manila.
> Thing is, Manila is 13 hours (if I recall correctly) ahead of the
> eastern U.S., so the Filipinos would be answering support calls during
> what amounted to a night shift. Given the truly byzantine and soul-
> crushing nature of the support required, I guess having support techs
> half-zonked-out, or else reduced to quivering catatonia by caffeine
> overdoses, added an extra frisson to support calls.
>
>
> --
> http://www.vigo-alessi.com/images/products/1362.jpg

Consultant
Tue Jun 15 12:43:54 CDT 2004

why did you take his kneepads?


"Ken Briscoe" <youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in message
news:Of1F$7vUEHA.3944@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> "Neil" <neilmcse@nospamforyou.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9509880D3761Aneilmcsehotmailcom@207.46.248.16...
> > Vigo Breadcrumbs <vigo@breadcrumbbs.com> wrote in news:wqEzc.94624
> > $0X2.4224022@twister.tampabay.rr.com:
> >
> > > Cheapistan,
> >
> > I love these. Like the Dot Commies phrase, these make a Vigo post truely
> > memorable...
>
> as an addendum to my last (and mean - sorry Neil) post, I must confest
that
> I also enjoy a sprinkling of breadcrumbs in this NG.
>
> --
>
> KB - MCNGP "silent thug" #26
>
> first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com
>
>

Ken
Tue Jun 15 12:50:27 CDT 2004

"billyw" <b@brainless.net> wrote in message
news:eOP3YBwUEHA.3596@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> pussy...
>
> having to apologise...

Now you listen, and you listen good. I did not *have* to apologize. I did
because, um...well....er, I uh, well, it's hard to explain. But take note: I
did not *have* to apologize to that silly old man. I suppose I just felt bad
for him. You know, being senile and all. I never have to do anything I don't
want to do. You remember that billy. You remember that.

--

KB - MCNGP "silent thug" #26

first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com

Neil
Tue Jun 15 13:07:12 CDT 2004

"Ken Briscoe" <youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in
news:OztT2EwUEHA.2668@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl:

> Now you listen, and you listen good. I did not *have* to apologize. I
> did because, um...well....er, I uh, well, it's hard to explain. But
> take note: I did not *have* to apologize to that silly old man. I
> suppose I just felt bad for him. You know, being senile and all. I
> never have to do anything I don't want to do. You remember that billy.
> You remember that.

Yeah, I'm looking bad now...and who are you calling silly?
*pointing and laughing*

--
Neil MCNGP #30
"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"

The
Tue Jun 15 13:20:35 CDT 2004

Has Scott Adams been in touch with you about doing a Dilbert comic
strip about this? I guess not, as even in the Dilbert world this would
seem too far fetched!

On a serious note, one day the world will come to it's sense and see
outsoucing IT to third world shitholes for what it is - a costly
disaster.

On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 15:17:48 GMT, Vigo Breadcrumbs
<vigo@breadcrumbbs.com> wrote:

>Paint me thoroughly flabbergasted, but my former
>employer/nemesis/antichrist is hiring for technical positions _in this
>country_.
>
>Openings are for an "IT project leader," which is that to which the U.S.
>programmers got reclassified when the coding work got sent to
>Cheapistan, and "senior technical support," which tells me the one
>support person of any value (whose value was mainly his ability to lie
>with impunity and finesse to customers about the scope and impact of
>crises) quit or got fired.
>
>Neither opening is posted with any online service. I only found out
>about them because my well-meaning parents provide me with the weekly
>classifieds from the local Sunday paper. The jobs aren't even listed
>with the paper's own site. I don't know what kind of candidates they
>hope to get with a listing like this. Since this has to be a conscious
>choice, I can't begin to imagine what gambit Nosferatu has planned.
>
>All the remaining project managers got laid off on December 31st of last
>year, as part of N.'s plan to directly (micro)manage the software
>development process. To hire someone for on-site is a serious
>retrenchment. Support was supposed to be sent to the group in the
>Philippines, about which I've said little to this point.
>
>A note on the Filipino support abortion:
>Some companies sent support overseas out of cheapness, others have a
>more legitimate idea of trying to provide round-the-clock support
>without a night shift by forwarding calls to a locale where it's
>currently daylight. N. was obviously motivated by the former, but was
>turning the latter on its head. Despite the company's service being
>available 24 hours, it received 99% of its use 8:00AM - 8:00PM ET.
>There was really no need for after-hours support. In a move that made
>sense only to N., he got the idea to forward support calls (using VoIP
>over a path that was 128kbps, and shared with the data traffic, on the
>Philippine end, if you can believe that one) to the "office" in Manila.
>Thing is, Manila is 13 hours (if I recall correctly) ahead of the
>eastern U.S., so the Filipinos would be answering support calls during
>what amounted to a night shift. Given the truly byzantine and soul-
>crushing nature of the support required, I guess having support techs
>half-zonked-out, or else reduced to quivering catatonia by caffeine
>overdoses, added an extra frisson to support calls.


Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

The
Tue Jun 15 13:21:56 CDT 2004

>bloody capitalists

up the revolution!

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

Jtyc
Tue Jun 15 13:25:10 CDT 2004

> up the revolution!

"Down the British!"


/obscure movie quote

Kendal
Tue Jun 15 13:33:16 CDT 2004

Sniff.....

Good to see the newsgroup is pretty much the same as it was when I left last
month......

Oh, and btw, I am back, and living in Denver.... wee haa

"Neil" <neilmcse@nospamforyou.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95098FA31B72Eneilmcsehotmailcom@207.46.248.16...
> "Ken Briscoe" <youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in
> news:OztT2EwUEHA.2668@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl:
>
> > Now you listen, and you listen good. I did not *have* to apologize. I
> > did because, um...well....er, I uh, well, it's hard to explain. But
> > take note: I did not *have* to apologize to that silly old man. I
> > suppose I just felt bad for him. You know, being senile and all. I
> > never have to do anything I don't want to do. You remember that billy.
> > You remember that.
>
> Yeah, I'm looking bad now...and who are you calling silly?
> *pointing and laughing*
>
> --
> Neil MCNGP #30
> "you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"

Consultant
Tue Jun 15 13:42:59 CDT 2004

what happened?

"Kendal Emery" <kemery.ME.@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:uQKR7cwUEHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Sniff.....
>
> Good to see the newsgroup is pretty much the same as it was when I left
last
> month......
>
> Oh, and btw, I am back, and living in Denver.... wee haa
>
> "Neil" <neilmcse@nospamforyou.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns95098FA31B72Eneilmcsehotmailcom@207.46.248.16...
> > "Ken Briscoe" <youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in
> > news:OztT2EwUEHA.2668@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl:
> >
> > > Now you listen, and you listen good. I did not *have* to apologize. I
> > > did because, um...well....er, I uh, well, it's hard to explain. But
> > > take note: I did not *have* to apologize to that silly old man. I
> > > suppose I just felt bad for him. You know, being senile and all. I
> > > never have to do anything I don't want to do. You remember that billy.
> > > You remember that.
> >
> > Yeah, I'm looking bad now...and who are you calling silly?
> > *pointing and laughing*
> >
> > --
> > Neil MCNGP #30
> > "you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"
>
>

Neil
Tue Jun 15 13:43:25 CDT 2004

"Kendal Emery" <kemery.ME.@comcast.net> wrote in news:uQKR7cwUEHA.2360
@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl:

> Oh, and btw, I am back

WELCOME BACK!!!

now can you do something about Ken or tgp? he's out of control...

--
Neil MCNGP #30
"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"

Consultant
Tue Jun 15 13:43:56 CDT 2004

freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedommmmmmmmmm

"Jtyc" <jtyc_mcngp@spamblockerbitch!@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:O$EpYYwUEHA.2908@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > up the revolution!
>
> "Down the British!"
>
>
> /obscure movie quote
>
>
>

Jtyc
Tue Jun 15 14:00:37 CDT 2004

> Oh, and btw, I am back, and living in Denver.... wee haa

Which area?


don't say Arvada...

Jtyc
Tue Jun 15 14:01:05 CDT 2004

> freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedommmmmmmmmm

/not so obscure movie quote

billyw
Wed Jun 16 08:08:55 CDT 2004

i insist on an apology..


"Ken Briscoe" <youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in message
news:OztT2EwUEHA.2668@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> "billyw" <b@brainless.net> wrote in message
> news:eOP3YBwUEHA.3596@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > pussy...
> >
> > having to apologise...
>
> Now you listen, and you listen good. I did not *have* to apologize. I did
> because, um...well....er, I uh, well, it's hard to explain. But take note:
I
> did not *have* to apologize to that silly old man. I suppose I just felt
bad
> for him. You know, being senile and all. I never have to do anything I
don't
> want to do. You remember that billy. You remember that.
>
> --
>
> KB - MCNGP "silent thug" #26
>
> first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com
>
>

billyw
Wed Jun 16 08:09:50 CDT 2004

any yank burd wants to go down on this brit is more than welcome


"Jtyc" <jtyc_mcngp@spamblockerbitch!@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:O$EpYYwUEHA.2908@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > up the revolution!
>
> "Down the British!"
>
>
> /obscure movie quote
>
>
>

billyw
Wed Jun 16 08:10:12 CDT 2004

i was going to say that..


"Jtyc" <jtyc_mcngp@spamblockerbitch!@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OtAUdswUEHA.1172@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedommmmmmmmmm
>
> /not so obscure movie quote
>
>

Neil
Wed Jun 16 08:30:48 CDT 2004

"billyw" <b@brainless.net> wrote in news:ezsCPM6UEHA.704
@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl:

> i insist on an apology..

he's sorry. read the post. it was very sorry...

--
Neil MCNGP #30
"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"

Ken
Wed Jun 16 08:36:30 CDT 2004

"Neil" <neilmcse@nospamforyou.com> wrote in message
news:Xns950A60C6B3E9Cneilmcsehotmailcom@207.46.248.16...
> "billyw" <b@brainless.net> wrote in news:ezsCPM6UEHA.704
> @TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl:
>
> > i insist on an apology..
>
> he's sorry. read the post. it was very sorry...

don't hate tha playa, hate tha game

--

KB - MCNGP "silent thug" #26

first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com

Consultant
Wed Jun 16 08:43:52 CDT 2004

true dat

"Ken Briscoe" <youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in message
news:%23vqPnb6UEHA.384@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> "Neil" <neilmcse@nospamforyou.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns950A60C6B3E9Cneilmcsehotmailcom@207.46.248.16...
> > "billyw" <b@brainless.net> wrote in news:ezsCPM6UEHA.704
> > @TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl:
> >
> > > i insist on an apology..
> >
> > he's sorry. read the post. it was very sorry...
>
> don't hate tha playa, hate tha game
>
> --
>
> KB - MCNGP "silent thug" #26
>
> first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com
>
>

Consultant
Wed Jun 16 08:44:29 CDT 2004

have you ever shat on a turtle?

"billyw" <b@brainless.net> wrote in message
news:ewDCwM6UEHA.1888@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> any yank burd wants to go down on this brit is more than welcome
>
>
> "Jtyc" <jtyc_mcngp@spamblockerbitch!@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:O$EpYYwUEHA.2908@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > up the revolution!
> >
> > "Down the British!"
> >
> >
> > /obscure movie quote
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Jtyc
Wed Jun 16 09:33:51 CDT 2004

> i was going to say that..

That frightens me.

Consultant
Wed Jun 16 09:37:50 CDT 2004

they say after years of marraige, people start takin on each others
traits/habits

"Jtyc" <jtyc_mcngp@spamblockerbitch!@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uUGny76UEHA.760@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > i was going to say that..
>
> That frightens me.
>
>

Keyboard
Wed Jun 16 09:46:32 CDT 2004


>-----Original Message-----
>> i was going to say that..
>
>That frightens me.
>
>

It should.

Jtyc
Wed Jun 16 09:47:16 CDT 2004

> they say after years of marraige, people start takin on each others
> traits/habits

yeah! well... I...


/stumped

Ken
Wed Jun 16 09:53:59 CDT 2004

"Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> they say after years of marraige, people start takin on each others
> traits/habits

Consultant: 1
Jtyc/Billyw: 0

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billyw
Wed Jun 16 13:02:07 CDT 2004

did i mention about the new curtains?

"Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> they say after years of marraige, people start takin on each others
> traits/habits
>
> "Jtyc" <jtyc_mcngp@spamblockerbitch!@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:uUGny76UEHA.760@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > i was going to say that..
> >
> > That frightens me.
> >
> >
>
>

billyw
Wed Jun 16 13:02:40 CDT 2004

oh...

i see i may have to pay special attention to you sonny

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> "Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:%23NGPB%236UEHA.1888@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > they say after years of marraige, people start takin on each others
> > traits/habits
>
> Consultant: 1
> Jtyc/Billyw: 0
>
> --
>
> KB - MCNGP "silent thug" #26
>
> first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com
>
>

billyw
Wed Jun 16 13:03:36 CDT 2004

not that i'm aware of

"Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> have you ever shat on a turtle?
>
> "billyw" <b@brainless.net> wrote in message
> news:ewDCwM6UEHA.1888@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > any yank burd wants to go down on this brit is more than welcome
> >
> >
> > "Jtyc" <jtyc_mcngp@spamblockerbitch!@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:O$EpYYwUEHA.2908@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > > up the revolution!
> > >
> > > "Down the British!"
> > >
> > >
> > > /obscure movie quote
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

billyw
Wed Jun 16 13:03:17 CDT 2004

yuck, yuck.. hey martha, HEY MARTHA...
i told them varmits a funny...


"Keyboard Cowboy" <thekeyboardcowboy@nospam.cybersolutionz.com> wrote in
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>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >> i was going to say that..
> >
> >That frightens me.
> >
> >
>
> It should.

Ken
Wed Jun 16 13:21:16 CDT 2004

"billyw" <b@brainless.net> wrote in message
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> oh...
>
> i see i may have to pay special attention to you sonny

"special attention"? Who do you think I am, Jtyc?

*runs* *fast*

--

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first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com

billyw
Wed Jun 16 13:30:45 CDT 2004

hey it aint me you need to worry about..

keyboard cowboy will make you squeal like a pig...


"Ken Briscoe" <youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in message
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> "billyw" <b@brainless.net> wrote in message
> news:erdPYw8UEHA.644@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > oh...
> >
> > i see i may have to pay special attention to you sonny
>
> "special attention"? Who do you think I am, Jtyc?
>
> *runs* *fast*
>
> --
>
> KB - MCNGP "silent thug" #26
>
> first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com
>
>

staverts
Wed Jun 16 13:47:58 CDT 2004

Not to sound bleak...but I live in vancouver canada..and from how they
raped what was left of the dot bomb industry up here, says nothing
pleasent about the future of what left of us IT/IS people who are holding
on. I manage to pick up odd jobs here and there, doing coding or / Server
networking jobs..I do both just for survival..but the fact is..is that its
always Piece work...I;ve haven't had decent employment in probably two
years not..and no matter how disasterous it seems to get..these HR Nazi's
keep outsourcing to save what look like a couple bucks on paper. When
companies are willing outsource to a country who has no standard of life
whatsoever, and people will work for breadcrumbs...we're all @#$%$% in
Canada and the USA. The scary thing is, now the people who work for
breadcrumbs, are becoming quite educated as well.

So now you have people who work for breadcrumbs, and offer more education
wise than you and I can...the only barrier left really is language, and
the reality is, is that the breadcrumb workers are learning english as a
part of thier education...so now they speak english, have engineering
degrees, and work for .05 cents and hour..we cannot compete with that.
Your last hope is to get more education, and hope that that helps, but the
reality is, is that most of the ousourced workers have teo degrees
already.

I was travelling in mexico this summer, and I became somewhat depressed.
I met several people from foreign contries who:

A. Made my college education look like a prize in a cracker jack box.
B. Had two degrees and were working on a masters
C. We're filling US and Canda outsourced positions, which were formally
ours
D. Operated on a higher physilogical, psychological, logical, and
mathematcal level than I did...and we're great people to boot.

It was exciting to interact with them, but it also emphasized, how behind
we have become in our school system, and just how screwed we are in
competition with these outsourced positions....

Matt

Neil
Wed Jun 16 14:16:03 CDT 2004

"staverts" <staverts@shaw.ca> wrote in
news:605794e4b43adcfb1b653359bc0a3c7c@localhost.talkaboutsoftware.com:

> now the people who work for
> breadcrumbs, are becoming quite educated as well.
>

That's becuase Vigo is so well spoken. But I thought he was looking for
work not the other way around...

--
Neil MCNGP #30
"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"

Keyboard
Wed Jun 16 14:41:03 CDT 2004

I guess pigs are to rednecks what sheep are to scots...

*"baaa"* *billyw gets excited*


>-----Original Message-----
>"billyw" <b@brainless.net> wrote in message
>news:erdPYw8UEHA.644@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> oh...
>>
>> i see i may have to pay special attention to you sonny
>
>"special attention"? Who do you think I am, Jtyc?
>
>*runs* *fast*
>
>--
>
>KB - MCNGP "silent thug" #26
>
>first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com
>
>
>.
>

billyw
Wed Jun 16 15:49:34 CDT 2004

one thing to remeber..

the breadcrumb workers are starting to ask for more.
if you think there was a lot of outsourcing so far.. if bush wins the next
US election there will be tons of it..
many companies are keeping quiet when they outsource or shelving plans to a
later date..

"staverts" <staverts@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:605794e4b43adcfb1b653359bc0a3c7c@localhost.talkaboutsoftware.com...
> Not to sound bleak...but I live in vancouver canada..and from how they
> raped what was left of the dot bomb industry up here, says nothing
> pleasent about the future of what left of us IT/IS people who are holding
> on. I manage to pick up odd jobs here and there, doing coding or / Server
> networking jobs..I do both just for survival..but the fact is..is that its
> always Piece work...I;ve haven't had decent employment in probably two
> years not..and no matter how disasterous it seems to get..these HR Nazi's
> keep outsourcing to save what look like a couple bucks on paper. When
> companies are willing outsource to a country who has no standard of life
> whatsoever, and people will work for breadcrumbs...we're all @#$%$% in
> Canada and the USA. The scary thing is, now the people who work for
> breadcrumbs, are becoming quite educated as well.
>
> So now you have people who work for breadcrumbs, and offer more education
> wise than you and I can...the only barrier left really is language, and
> the reality is, is that the breadcrumb workers are learning english as a
> part of thier education...so now they speak english, have engineering
> degrees, and work for .05 cents and hour..we cannot compete with that.
> Your last hope is to get more education, and hope that that helps, but the
> reality is, is that most of the ousourced workers have teo degrees
> already.
>
> I was travelling in mexico this summer, and I became somewhat depressed.
> I met several people from foreign contries who:
>
> A. Made my college education look like a prize in a cracker jack box.
> B. Had two degrees and were working on a masters
> C. We're filling US and Canda outsourced positions, which were formally
> ours
> D. Operated on a higher physilogical, psychological, logical, and
> mathematcal level than I did...and we're great people to boot.
>
> It was exciting to interact with them, but it also emphasized, how behind
> we have become in our school system, and just how screwed we are in
> competition with these outsourced positions....
>
> Matt
>

Jtyc
Wed Jun 16 16:49:35 CDT 2004

> the breadcrumb workers are starting to ask for more.
> if you think there was a lot of outsourcing so far.. if bush wins the next
> US election there will be tons of it..
> many companies are keeping quiet when they outsource or shelving plans to
a
> later date..

I had no idea the president told companies like Intel that they need to send
their manufacturing offshore.

How foolish I've been.

staverts
Wed Jun 16 16:39:02 CDT 2004

Yeah, and if Harper, or Martin get elected up here in Canada on June 28,
2004, We'll be in the same situation up here. Us clan of IT/IS people
will be suffering even more. We'll have to right, overthow the govenment
in Canada, and the US...and form our own, ha ha ha. But sersiouly, on a
not so pleasent not, it will be even daarker days for us IS/IT people in
Canada and the US. We might as well, just pack up and look for a new
carreer, because we won;t even be doing piece work if bush in the U.S. and
Harper or Martin get elected in canada. We need micheal moore now than
ever ha ha ha.

Matt

Doom
Wed Jun 16 16:38:29 CDT 2004


"staverts" <staverts@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:605794e4b43adcfb1b653359bc0a3c7c@localhost.talkaboutsoftware.com...
> Not to sound bleak...

<snipped>
I'm afraid the way things are going the only jobs left in the US will be
driving a truck for Walmart. Oh wait, if no one has a job no one can shop at
Walmart either. OK so there will be no jobs left in the US.

Vigo
Wed Jun 16 16:49:56 CDT 2004

Neil <neilmcse@nospamforyou.com> wrote in
news:Xns950A9B4F6F39Eneilmcsehotmailcom@207.46.248.16:

>> now the people who work for
>> breadcrumbs, are becoming quite educated as well.
>>
>
> That's becuase Vigo is so well spoken. But I thought he was looking for
> work not the other way around...

Gorsh...you flatter me. You also beat me to the punch(line).

By the way, one of the jobs NosferatuCo is offering showed up in the
newspaper's online listings. The job title has been changed to "Technical
Support Analyst," which is appropriate, given that the eventual employee
will feel like her or she is taking it in the @ss multiple times daily.

"Excellent written and oral English skills" are also requires. My first
thought was, why start now?



--
http://www.vigo-alessi.com/images/products/1362.jpg

Neil
Wed Jun 16 18:59:33 CDT 2004

Vigo Breadcrumbs <vigo@breadcrumbbs.com> wrote in news:8g3Ac.80461
$w34.3816855@twister.tampabay.rr.com:

> "Excellent written and oral English skills" are also requires.

a job were oral skills are required...no thanks...

--
Neil MCNGP #30
"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"

TechGeekPro
Wed Jun 16 19:06:05 CDT 2004

Neil wrote:

> Vigo Breadcrumbs <vigo@breadcrumbbs.com> wrote in news:8g3Ac.80461
> $w34.3816855@twister.tampabay.rr.com:
>
>
>>"Excellent written and oral English skills" are also requires.
>
>
> a job were oral skills are required...no thanks...
>

Like Presidential internships.

--
I may not be completely certified, but I am completely certifiable.

Neil
Wed Jun 16 19:13:17 CDT 2004

TechGeekPro <%username%@yahoo.com> wrote in news:i_6dnVgLDorwfU3dRVn-
jA@adelphia.com:

>
> Like Presidential internships.

you have any stains on your dress?

--
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"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"

TechGeekPro
Wed Jun 16 22:35:25 CDT 2004

"Neil" <neilmcse@nospamforyou.com> wrote in message
news:Xns950ACD9151B14neilmcsehotmailcom@207.46.248.16...
> TechGeekPro <%username%@yahoo.com> wrote in news:i_6dnVgLDorwfU3dRVn-
> jA@adelphia.com:
>
> >
> > Like Presidential internships.
>
> you have any stains on your dress?
>
> --
> Neil MCNGP #30
> "you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"

I'll never tell.

--
I may not be completely certified, but I am completely certifiable.

billyw
Thu Jun 17 03:21:37 CDT 2004

no... he helps them tho..
and thos big donations from corporate world.. do you think they dont want
paid for that..

that said kerry will have you lot speaking french by the end of 2005


"Jtyc" <jtyc_mcngp@f'nspammersDIE@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ubmxOl%23UEHA.2992@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > the breadcrumb workers are starting to ask for more.
> > if you think there was a lot of outsourcing so far.. if bush wins the
next
> > US election there will be tons of it..
> > many companies are keeping quiet when they outsource or shelving plans
to
> a
> > later date..
>
> I had no idea the president told companies like Intel that they need to
send
> their manufacturing offshore.
>
> How foolish I've been.
>
>

billLASTINIT
Thu Jun 17 07:01:25 CDT 2004

Vigo Breadcrumbs wrote:
> Neil <neilmcse@nospamforyou.com> wrote in
> news:Xns950A9B4F6F39Eneilmcsehotmailcom@207.46.248.16:
>
>>> now the people who work for
>>> breadcrumbs, are becoming quite educated as well.
>>>
>>
>> That's becuase Vigo is so well spoken. But I thought he was looking
>> for work not the other way around...
>
> Gorsh...you flatter me. You also beat me to the punch(line).
>
> By the way, one of the jobs NosferatuCo is offering showed up in the
> newspaper's online listings. The job title has been changed to
> "Technical Support Analyst," which is appropriate, given that the
> eventual employee will feel like her or she is taking it in the @ss
> multiple times daily.
>
> "Excellent written and oral English skills" are also requires. My
> first thought was, why start now?

I think you should fix yourself up some kind of disguise and go interview
with them. Then turn them down, laughing when they tell you the salary
they're offering.

--
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The MCNGP Team - We're here to help!
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Neil
Thu Jun 17 08:07:37 CDT 2004

"TechGeekPro" <%username%@yahoo.com> wrote in news:4o-dnYTwro7gjEzdRVn-
jg@adelphia.com:

>>
>> you have any stains on your dress?
>>
>
> I'll never tell.
>
but you are admitting to the dress then...


--
Neil MCNGP #30
"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"

Jtyc
Thu Jun 17 10:22:15 CDT 2004

> that said kerry will have you lot speaking french by the end of 2005

In my personal opinion, neither of them is a good candidate.

billyw
Thu Jun 17 10:16:16 CDT 2004

thats politicians for you


"Jtyc" <jtyc_mcngp@f'nspammersDIE@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:%23wMWVxHVEHA.2988@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > that said kerry will have you lot speaking french by the end of 2005
>
> In my personal opinion, neither of them is a good candidate.
>
>

billLASTINIT
Thu Jun 17 10:17:20 CDT 2004

Jtyc wrote:
>> that said kerry will have you lot speaking french by the end of 2005
>
> In my personal opinion, neither of them is a good candidate.

Okay, that does it.

I am hereby announcing my official candidacy for the 2004 Presidential
Election.

Laura will be my V.P. running mate.

Frisbee®/Animatron® 2004!

--
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The MCNGP Team - We're here to help!
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Keyboard
Thu Jun 17 10:42:07 CDT 2004

Can you run for president of beers too? Miller needs the=20
competition...



>Okay, that does it.
>
>I am hereby announcing my official candidacy for the 2004=20
Presidential
>Election.
>
>Laura will be my V.P. running mate.
>
>Frisbee=AE/Animatron=AE 2004!
>
>--=20
>Fris "Give us a fling!" bee=AE, MCNGP #13
>
>The MCNGP Team - We're here to help!
>http://www.mcngp.tk
>
>Certaholics
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/certaholics
>
>.
>

Jtyc
Thu Jun 17 11:01:18 CDT 2004

> I am hereby announcing my official candidacy for the 2004 Presidential
> Election.
> Laura will be my V.P. running mate.

I dunno man... she's against my gas guzzlin SUV. And she probably won't
like my RV either...


Besides, what are you going to do for me?

billyw
Thu Jun 17 10:52:32 CDT 2004

why not rejoin the empire chaps
and you would have the great pleasure of serving your overlords once more..

feel free to sign up when you get a chance

toodle pip


"Jtyc" <jtyc_mcngp@f'nspammersDIE@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:%23xULKHIVEHA.1048@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > I am hereby announcing my official candidacy for the 2004 Presidential
> > Election.
> > Laura will be my V.P. running mate.
>
> I dunno man... she's against my gas guzzlin SUV. And she probably won't
> like my RV either...
>
>
> Besides, what are you going to do for me?
>
>
>

Neil
Thu Jun 17 11:00:14 CDT 2004

Frisbee® <billLASTINIT@dasi-software.com> wrote in news:uEL7w4HVEHA.2564
@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl:

>
> Frisbee©/Animatron© 2004!

can't be any worse than the current slate...

you should mve up here and try for P.M. with a platform of Beer and
Frisbees you could pretty much wrap the whole thing up (and the frisbees
could be optional)

--
Neil MCNGP #30
"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"

Jtyc
Thu Jun 17 11:32:35 CDT 2004

> why not rejoin the empire chaps
> and you would have the great pleasure of serving your overlords once
more..
>
> feel free to sign up when you get a chance


Do I have to give up my guns?

Consultant
Thu Jun 17 11:28:41 CDT 2004

no, but you will have to give up brushing your teeth


"Jtyc" <jtyc_mcngp@f'nspammersDIE@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:eNVsoYIVEHA.1652@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > why not rejoin the empire chaps
> > and you would have the great pleasure of serving your overlords once
> more..
> >
> > feel free to sign up when you get a chance
>
>
> Do I have to give up my guns?
>
>

Neil
Thu Jun 17 11:31:45 CDT 2004

"Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote in news:Ohd#ngIVEHA.2928
@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl:

> no, but you will have to give up brushing your teeth
>

"NOT THE BIG BOOK OF BRITISH TEETH!!!!!!!"

--
Neil MCNGP #30
"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"

Jtyc
Thu Jun 17 11:51:14 CDT 2004

> no, but you will have to give up brushing your teeth

What about speed? Do I have to start driving 100kph?

billyw
Thu Jun 17 11:50:12 CDT 2004

of course...

you colonials and your guns

tut tut


"Jtyc" <jtyc_mcngp@f'nspammersDIE@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:eNVsoYIVEHA.1652@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > why not rejoin the empire chaps
> > and you would have the great pleasure of serving your overlords once
> more..
> >
> > feel free to sign up when you get a chance
>
>
> Do I have to give up my guns?
>
>

billyw
Thu Jun 17 11:49:22 CDT 2004

nope our speed limit on motorways is 70 mph. +10%+3-5mph

so that would be about 82mph before you get done


"Jtyc" <jtyc_mcngp@f'nspammersDIE@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ep63DjIVEHA.3336@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > no, but you will have to give up brushing your teeth
>
> What about speed? Do I have to start driving 100kph?
>
>

billyw
Thu Jun 17 11:49:42 CDT 2004

only on days ending in Y

"Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Ohd%23ngIVEHA.2928@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> no, but you will have to give up brushing your teeth
>
>
> "Jtyc" <jtyc_mcngp@f'nspammersDIE@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:eNVsoYIVEHA.1652@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > why not rejoin the empire chaps
> > > and you would have the great pleasure of serving your overlords once
> > more..
> > >
> > > feel free to sign up when you get a chance
> >
> >
> > Do I have to give up my guns?
> >
> >
>
>

Jtyc
Thu Jun 17 12:19:36 CDT 2004

> so that would be about 82mph before you get done

That's what I drive now.

Jtyc
Thu Jun 17 12:20:23 CDT 2004

> of course...

Than I ain't buying.

> you colonials and your guns


If you had our goverment you would want a gun too.

Keyboard
Thu Jun 17 12:24:18 CDT 2004


>If you had our goverment you would want a gun too.
>


Had a guy a couple months back that accidentally cut some
other guy off... was only an accident. The guy that got
cut off went into a road rage... followed the guy for a
few miles... The guy tried to lose him... but no luck. He
finally pulled up to some mail boxes etc store or
something like that... the guy pulled up behind him, got
out, and hit him over the head with the blunt end of a
hatchet. Spent some time in the hospital... plenty of
stitches... The guy was never caught.

This was on the same road I drive every day.

I carry my smith & wesson sw99 .40 cal everywhere... just
for this reason. There are some crazy sobs out there...
If it were me, I would have tried to lose him too... at
the point he gets out with the hatchet, I raise up my
freind and ask him "are you sure you would like to
continue this"? Chances are, they won't want to. The
thing is loud too... so a warning shot may provide enough
of a scare to run him off... If not... well, I warned him.

billyw
Thu Jun 17 12:32:32 CDT 2004

what!!

82mph in a monster truck??


"Jtyc" <jtyc_mcngp@f'nspammersDIE@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uxxO6yIVEHA.2840@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > so that would be about 82mph before you get done
>
> That's what I drive now.
>
>

billyw
Thu Jun 17 12:32:15 CDT 2004

want to nip over and shot rumsfeld for me then


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