Microsoft Are Changing Exam Test Methods - Have you seen the new betas ?

Hi
Has anyone seen the new "real interface" tests that MS is intending to
include in exams ?

I saw a demo of Enabling Certificate PKI AutoEnrollment on a CA server
- it looks like 25% - 50% of the new marks will be based on actually
configuring specific things! Finally, exams that actually test skills
not reading logic!

Good on you MS and Bye-Bye TK!!!!!


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Jerry
Fri Jun 18 02:22:01 CDT 2004

I took a survey after completing my MCSD which asked if the simulation exams were more life-like and if I recommend them. I said yes. If all the tests were simulations it would make our certifications slowly become worth more again and weed out the TestKing wannabes.

"Marlin Munrow" wrote:

> Hi
> Has anyone seen the new "real interface" tests that MS is intending to
> include in exams ?
>
> I saw a demo of Enabling Certificate PKI AutoEnrollment on a CA server
> - it looks like 25% - 50% of the new marks will be based on actually
> configuring specific things! Finally, exams that actually test skills
> not reading logic!
>
> Good on you MS and Bye-Bye TK!!!!!
>
>
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Marlin
Sat Jun 19 03:37:24 CDT 2004

You are soooooo right

But it may also make it *easier* as people could say:
Make sure you know how to Do X in Y environmnent for the simms

Guess if there are enough of them then this could result in people
inadvertantly *learning* the stuff or am I being too synical?

On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 00:22:01 -0700, "Jerry"
<Jerry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>I took a survey after completing my MCSD which asked if the simulation
> exams were more life-like and if I recommend them. I said yes. If all the
> tests were simulations it would make our certifications slowly become
> worth more again and weed out the TestKing wannabes.
>
>"Marlin Munrow" wrote:
>
>> Hi
>> Has anyone seen the new "real interface" tests that MS is intending to
>> include in exams ?
>>
>> I saw a demo of Enabling Certificate PKI AutoEnrollment on a CA server
>> - it looks like 25% - 50% of the new marks will be based on actually
>> configuring specific things! Finally, exams that actually test skills
>> not reading logic!
>>
>> Good on you MS and Bye-Bye TK!!!!!
>>
>>
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>> My Hero:
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/30/index.html
>> (remove vroomfondle to email me)
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Neil
Sat Jun 19 14:27:31 CDT 2004

Marlin Munrow <the_pfy@hotvroomfondlemail.com> wrote in
news:5mu7d0tu2u2freouu3gua7luf6gj4heajs@4ax.com:

> Guess if there are enough of them then this could result in people
> inadvertantly *learning* the stuff or am I being too synical?

AAAAAAAAAAAKKKKKKKKKK!!!! don't let them LEARRRRRRNNNN! that would be
unthinkable...

;)

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Marlin
Sun Jun 20 13:27:46 CDT 2004

Ouch that hurts - I laughed so much I think I broke something....

Lamers and br@indumpers///// */learning/*

Imagine the conversations outside the test centers
"Yeah, you just need to be sure of how to do PKI autoenrollment and
make sure you can do Smart card asssignment on PKI and setting up a
Root CA"

this would be a bit like getting MS Courseware and knowing how to do
the labs that they set... sort of like reading the courseware and
doing the labs...

Too much to hope for ? - I chuffing hope not!

On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 12:27:31 -0700, Neil <neilmcse@nospamforyou.com>
wrote:

>Marlin Munrow <the_pfy@hotvroomfondlemail.com> wrote in
>news:5mu7d0tu2u2freouu3gua7luf6gj4heajs@4ax.com:
>
>> Guess if there are enough of them then this could result in people
>> inadvertantly *learning* the stuff or am I being too synical?
>
>AAAAAAAAAAAKKKKKKKKKK!!!! don't let them LEARRRRRRNNNN! that would be
>unthinkable...
>
>;)

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Sun Jun 20 13:53:32 CDT 2004

Marlin Munrow <the_pfy@hotvroomfondlemail.com> wrote in
news:tilbd05q1nl0rbdpd0ridagldua4ue7rap@4ax.com:

>
> this would be a bit like getting MS Courseware and knowing how to do
> the labs that they set... sort of like reading the courseware and
> doing the labs...

now you're just being crazy...

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JaR
Sun Jun 20 15:00:38 CDT 2004

On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:27:46 +0100, Marlin Munrow extemporised:
- I chuffing hope not!
>

???chuffing???

You guys just make these words up at random, don't you?

C'mon, just between us ;-)

Ja(chuffing)R

Neil
Sun Jun 20 15:30:57 CDT 2004

JaR <Nunyobidness@softhome.net> wrote in
news:pan.2004.06.20.20.00.38.965744@softhome.net:

> On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:27:46 +0100, Marlin Munrow extemporised:
> - I chuffing hope not!
>>
>
> ???chuffing???
>
> You guys just make these words up at random, don't you?
>
> C'mon, just between us ;-)
>
> Ja(chuffing)R

what the chuff are you talking about

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Marlin
Mon Jun 21 11:16:33 CDT 2004

On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 13:30:57 -0700, Neil <neilmcse@nospamforyou.com>
wrote:

>JaR <Nunyobidness@softhome.net> wrote in
>news:pan.2004.06.20.20.00.38.965744@softhome.net:
>
>> On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:27:46 +0100, Marlin Munrow extemporised:
>> - I chuffing hope not!
>>>
>>
>> ???chuffing???
>>
>> You guys just make these words up at random, don't you?
>>
>> C'mon, just between us ;-)
>>
>> Ja(chuffing)R
>
>what the chuff are you talking about


In good ole blighty one may be wont to say

"tighter than a gnat's chuff" = Tighter than a gnat's back end
http://www.fistoffun.net/episodeguides/fistoffunradio01.htm

or
http://www.peevish.co.uk/slang/c.htm

chuff Noun. 1. Rubbish, nonsense. E.g."That film was a load of
chuff."
2. The anus. [Aust.]
3. The vag**a.
4. A passing of wind from the anus, a 'fart'.
Also used as a euphemism for 'f@ck' in expressions such as the denial
- "Did I chuff!"

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Mon Jun 21 13:20:17 CDT 2004

Marlin Munrow <the_pfy@hotvroomfondlemail.com> wrote in
news:ns1ed01qhdeo7i8e2ohmrenq92bi007vck@4ax.com:

>
> http://www.peevish.co.uk/slang/c.htm
>

Top-hole. Bally Jerry, pranged his kite right in the how's-your-father;
hairy blighter, dicky-birded, feathered back on his sammy, took a waspy,
flipped over on his Betty Harpers and caught his can in the Bertie.

JaR take over for me here...

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JaR
Mon Jun 21 14:19:14 CDT 2004

On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 11:20:17 -0700, Neil extemporised:

> Marlin Munrow <the_pfy@hotvroomfondlemail.com> wrote in
> news:ns1ed01qhdeo7i8e2ohmrenq92bi007vck@4ax.com:
>
>
>> http://www.peevish.co.uk/slang/c.htm
>>
>>
> Top-hole. Bally Jerry, pranged his kite right in the how's-your-father;
> hairy blighter, dicky-birded, feathered back on his sammy, took a waspy,
> flipped over on his Betty Harpers and caught his can in the Bertie.
>
> JaR take over for me here...

Once again MPFC proves the point and saves the day for obscurity.

JaR
Obtuse Thug

Neil
Mon Jun 21 14:28:03 CDT 2004

JaR <Nunyobidness@softhome.net> wrote in
news:pan.2004.06.21.19.19.14.493471@softhome.net:

> On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 11:20:17 -0700, Neil extemporised:
>
>> Marlin Munrow <the_pfy@hotvroomfondlemail.com> wrote in
>> news:ns1ed01qhdeo7i8e2ohmrenq92bi007vck@4ax.com:
>>
>>
>>> http://www.peevish.co.uk/slang/c.htm
>>>
>>>
>> Top-hole. Bally Jerry, pranged his kite right in the how's-your-
father;
>> hairy blighter, dicky-birded, feathered back on his sammy, took a
waspy,
>> flipped over on his Betty Harpers and caught his can in the Bertie.
>>
>> JaR take over for me here...
>
> Once again MPFC proves the point and saves the day for obscurity.
>
> JaR
> Obtuse Thug
>

Bunch of monkeys on the ceiling, sir! Grab your egg-and-fours and let's
get the bacon delivered!

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