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Just a question - how easy would you say is it to buy the MCSE set of =
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go write the exams WITHOUT registering at a educational organization.

...or would you advise to do it through a college, technickon, etc?
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RE: MCSE - how easy by OTHMAN

OTHMAN
Tue Jun 24 08:30:00 CDT 2008

> Hi everyone
>
> Just a question - how easy would you say is it to buy the MCSE set of books, self study it, ask friends and in forums what you dont know; and go write the exams WITHOUT registering at a educational organization.
>
> ....or would you advise to do it through a college, technickon, etc?
> Obviously you need to have done the coarse to answer the question

re-read this:

http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcse/windows2003/default.mspx

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Re: MCSE - how easy by Consultant

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Tue Jun 24 09:39:39 CDT 2008

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Re: MCSE - how easy by Michael

Michael
Tue Jun 24 09:58:20 CDT 2008

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>
> Just a question - how easy would you say is it to buy the MCSE set of books, self study it, ask friends and in forums what you dont know; and go write the exams WITHOUT registering at a educational organization.
>
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Unfortunately your scenario happens all the time. This is one of the
primary problems with recommended, but not required proficiency. Reading
a book will give you knowledge. Working with the technology gives you
experience. Put those two together and you have proficiency. If you
don't have proficiency in the tested objectives, why bother?

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Re: MCSE - how easy by MSExchangeStudent

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Re: MCSE - how easy by MSExchangeStudent

MSExchangeStudent
Tue Jun 24 10:08:09 CDT 2008

so waht do you suggest - just reading/studying the books, practise it and go
write the exam or go enroll at a college to receive practical
classes/lecturers


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>> Hi everyone
>>
>> Just a question - how easy would you say is it to buy the MCSE set of
>> books, self study it, ask friends and in forums what you dont know; and
>> go write the exams WITHOUT registering at a educational organization.
>>
>> ...or would you advise to do it through a college, technickon, etc?
>> Obviously you need to have done the coarse to answer the question
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>
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> primary problems with recommended, but not required proficiency. Reading a
> book will give you knowledge. Working with the technology gives you
> experience. Put those two together and you have proficiency. If you don't
> have proficiency in the tested objectives, why bother?
>
> --
> Michael D. Alligood, MCITP, MCTS, MCSA, MCDST, A+
> The I.T. Classroom Blog - http://www.theitclassroom.com
>
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Re: MCSE - how easy by OTHMAN

OTHMAN
Tue Jun 24 10:15:01 CDT 2008

> so waht do you suggest - just reading/studying the books, practise it and go
> write the exam or go enroll at a college to receive practical
> classes/lecturers

Knowledge vs Money

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Re: MCSE - how easy by Kline

Kline
Tue Jun 24 11:12:36 CDT 2008

>so waht do you suggest - just reading/studying the books, practise it and go
>write the exam or go enroll at a college to receive practical
>classes/lecturers

first, learn not to post in html.

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

Re: MCSE - how easy by Kline

Kline
Tue Jun 24 11:13:24 CDT 2008

>> so waht do you suggest - just reading/studying the books, practise it and go
>> write the exam or go enroll at a college to receive practical
>> classes/lecturers
>
>Knowledge vs Money

money, i'm only interested in money.

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

Re: MCSE - how easy by OTHMAN

OTHMAN
Tue Jun 24 11:45:05 CDT 2008

> money, i'm only interested in money.

Aye, still Lookin' for treasure on Mars. Arrr, no luck yet Aye.

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Re: MCSE - how easy by kpg

kpg
Tue Jun 24 14:30:13 CDT 2008

Kline Sphere <.> wrote in
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>>so waht do you suggest - just reading/studying the books, practise it
>>and go write the exam or go enroll at a college to receive practical
>>classes/lecturers
>
> first, learn not to post in html.

second, get a million dollars.


Re: MCSE - how easy by CBIC

CBIC
Tue Jun 24 14:54:00 CDT 2008


"kpg" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
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> Kline Sphere <.> wrote in
> news:v67264lm000h5ok0oteo09msmbt1r0knls@4ax.com:
>
>>>so waht do you suggest - just reading/studying the books, practise it
>>>and go write the exam or go enroll at a college to receive practical
>>>classes/lecturers
>>
>> first, learn not to post in html.
>
> second, get a million dollars.
>

You know what I'd do if I had a million dollars?



Re: MCSE - how easy by Kline

Kline
Tue Jun 24 15:01:10 CDT 2008

>>> first, learn not to post in html.
>>
>> second, get a million dollars.
>>
>
>You know what I'd do if I had a million dollars?

give it to me?

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

Re: MCSE - how easy by Consultant

Consultant
Tue Jun 24 15:36:46 CDT 2008

two chicks at the same time

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> "kpg" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
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>> Kline Sphere <.> wrote in
>> news:v67264lm000h5ok0oteo09msmbt1r0knls@4ax.com:
>>
>>>>so waht do you suggest - just reading/studying the books, practise it
>>>>and go write the exam or go enroll at a college to receive practical
>>>>classes/lecturers
>>>
>>> first, learn not to post in html.
>>
>> second, get a million dollars.
>>
>
> You know what I'd do if I had a million dollars?
>



Re: MCSE - how easy by CBIC

CBIC
Tue Jun 24 15:38:17 CDT 2008


"Kline Sphere" <.> wrote in message
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>>>> first, learn not to post in html.
>>>
>>> second, get a million dollars.
>>>
>>
>>You know what I'd do if I had a million dollars?
>
> give it to me?
>

2 chicks at one time.



Re: MCSE - how easy by kpg

kpg
Tue Jun 24 15:44:26 CDT 2008

"CBIC" <spam.thisbiotch@gmail.com> wrote in news:eVAJ9oj1IHA.5560
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>
> "Kline Sphere" <.> wrote in message
> news:ojk26418ohmq7ohdesjkc5r6tlht45uf9k@4ax.com...
>>>>> first, learn not to post in html.
>>>>
>>>> second, get a million dollars.
>>>>
>>>
>>>You know what I'd do if I had a million dollars?
>>
>> give it to me?
>>
>
> 2 chicks at one time.

You don't need a million dollars for that...



kp "you just need a lapel pin" g

Re: MCSE - how easy by Kline

Kline
Wed Jun 25 13:25:57 CDT 2008

>two chicks at the same time

what's wrong with three at a time or can't you handle it ;-)

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

Re: MCSE - how easy by Kline

Kline
Wed Jun 25 13:27:42 CDT 2008

>> 2 chicks at one time.
>
>You don't need a million dollars for that...

that's right. catwalker + kat will do it for $0.50, plus a burger &
large fries.

just kidding.......

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

Re: MCSE - how easy by Consultant

Consultant
Wed Jun 25 14:28:49 CDT 2008

ding fries are done! would you like an apple pie with that?

"Kline Sphere" <.> wrote in message
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>>> 2 chicks at one time.
>>
>>You don't need a million dollars for that...
>
> that's right. catwalker + kat will do it for $0.50, plus a burger &
> large fries.
>
> just kidding.......
>
> Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3



Re: MCSE - how easy by Consultant

Consultant
Wed Jun 25 14:29:07 CDT 2008

i may start crying

"Kline Sphere" <.> wrote in message
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> >two chicks at the same time
>
> what's wrong with three at a time or can't you handle it ;-)
>
> Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3