MCSE in Windows 2003: Security road from here

Hi.

Yesterday I passed 70-292 exam so, as I had passed before 70-210, 70-215,
70-216 and 70, 218, I'm now MCSA in Windows 2000 and in Windows 2003.

My objective is the MCSE in Windows 2003 with speciality in Security. So,
being MCSA in Windows 2003, what now? How much to go? 2, 3 more? Which ones
could they be? How many â??coreâ?? and how many â??electiveâ???

The next exam I want to sit for is CompTIA Security+. In my opinion, this
exam has its own importance, apart from the possibility of being used as
requisite to MCSE, so passing it would give me at the same time â??a piece of
the MCSEâ?? and a 3rd party recognized certification.

Speaking about Security+â?¦what exact impact does this exam have in the â??pathâ??
I need to accomplish my objective? Is it consider â??electiveâ???

Honestly, I tried to understand the CertPlanner, but I just donâ??t get how to
figure out easily the options I have to achieve my goal.

Thanks!!!

Carlos Tapia.
MCSA W2K - MCSA W2K3
CCNA

John
Wed Feb 13 06:27:01 CST 2008


"Carlos Ignacio Tapia" <CarlosIgnacioTapia@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
in message news:46C66C78-B9B6-4D31-BED2-3B093C81AC99@microsoft.com...
> Hi.
>
> Yesterday I passed 70-292 exam so, as I had passed before 70-210, 70-215,
> 70-216 and 70, 218, I'm now MCSA in Windows 2000 and in Windows 2003.
>
> My objective is the MCSE in Windows 2003 with speciality in Security. So,
> being MCSA in Windows 2003, what now? How much to go? 2, 3 more? Which
> ones
> could they be? How many "core" and how many "elective"?
>
> The next exam I want to sit for is CompTIA Security+. In my opinion, this
> exam has its own importance, apart from the possibility of being used as
> requisite to MCSE, so passing it would give me at the same time "a piece
> of
> the MCSE" and a 3rd party recognized certification.
>
> Speaking about Security+.what exact impact does this exam have in the
> "path"
> I need to accomplish my objective? Is it consider "elective"?
>
> Honestly, I tried to understand the CertPlanner, but I just don't get how
> to
> figure out easily the options I have to achieve my goal.
>
> Thanks!!!
>
> Carlos Tapia.
> MCSA W2K - MCSA W2K3
> CCNA
>

You can see the total requirements here...
http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcse/security/windowsserver2003.mspx

70-292 gave you credit for 70-290 and 70-291 which are 2 of the 4 networking
system core exams.
You'll need the remaining two, 70-293 and 70-294

You have 70-210 which will suffice for the client OS exam.

You'll need the core design exam 70-298.

At this point, you will have MCSE: 2003

You'll then need two additional core security elements out of the
following... 70-299, 70-227, 70-350, Comptia Security+

Good luck to you.

John R

CarlosIgnacioTapia
Wed Feb 13 09:17:03 CST 2008

Hi, thanks so much for your reply.

I was wondering...can I take 70-296 (before 03/31, of course because MS is
retiring it) and avoid to take individually 70-293 and 70-294?

Exam 70-296 name states â??â?¦for an MCSE Certified on Windows 2000â?? and Iâ??m
not. I got my MCSA 2000 and MCSA 2003. Iâ??m not MCSE on 2000.

If I go to Prometric and register for 70-296â?¦will it allow me? Does
Prometric have anyway to check if Iâ??m or Iâ??m not an MCSE on 2000 yet when I
register for 70-296?
If it does allow me and I pass itâ?¦will it be valid?

Thanks!!!

Carlos Tapia.




"John R" wrote:

>
> "Carlos Ignacio Tapia" <CarlosIgnacioTapia@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
> in message news:46C66C78-B9B6-4D31-BED2-3B093C81AC99@microsoft.com...
> > Hi.
> >
> > Yesterday I passed 70-292 exam so, as I had passed before 70-210, 70-215,
> > 70-216 and 70, 218, I'm now MCSA in Windows 2000 and in Windows 2003.
> >
> > My objective is the MCSE in Windows 2003 with speciality in Security. So,
> > being MCSA in Windows 2003, what now? How much to go? 2, 3 more? Which
> > ones
> > could they be? How many "core" and how many "elective"?
> >
> > The next exam I want to sit for is CompTIA Security+. In my opinion, this
> > exam has its own importance, apart from the possibility of being used as
> > requisite to MCSE, so passing it would give me at the same time "a piece
> > of
> > the MCSE" and a 3rd party recognized certification.
> >
> > Speaking about Security+.what exact impact does this exam have in the
> > "path"
> > I need to accomplish my objective? Is it consider "elective"?
> >
> > Honestly, I tried to understand the CertPlanner, but I just don't get how
> > to
> > figure out easily the options I have to achieve my goal.
> >
> > Thanks!!!
> >
> > Carlos Tapia.
> > MCSA W2K - MCSA W2K3
> > CCNA
> >
>
> You can see the total requirements here...
> http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcse/security/windowsserver2003.mspx
>
> 70-292 gave you credit for 70-290 and 70-291 which are 2 of the 4 networking
> system core exams.
> You'll need the remaining two, 70-293 and 70-294
>
> You have 70-210 which will suffice for the client OS exam.
>
> You'll need the core design exam 70-298.
>
> At this point, you will have MCSE: 2003
>
> You'll then need two additional core security elements out of the
> following... 70-299, 70-227, 70-350, Comptia Security+
>
> Good luck to you.
>
> John R
>
>
>

John
Wed Feb 13 09:42:36 CST 2008


"Carlos Ignacio Tapia" <CarlosIgnacioTapia@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
in message news:E42CF3D8-E594-4DEC-8CD9-066FCE6FB051@microsoft.com...
> Hi, thanks so much for your reply.
>
> I was wondering...can I take 70-296 (before 03/31, of course because MS is
> retiring it) and avoid to take individually 70-293 and 70-294?
>
> Exam 70-296 name states ".for an MCSE Certified on Windows 2000" and I'm
> not. I got my MCSA 2000 and MCSA 2003. I'm not MCSE on 2000.
>
> If I go to Prometric and register for 70-296.will it allow me? Does
> Prometric have anyway to check if I'm or I'm not an MCSE on 2000 yet when
> I
> register for 70-296?
> If it does allow me and I pass it.will it be valid?
>
> Thanks!!!
>

You cannot use 70-296 to avoid 70-293 and 70-294 unless you hold MCSE 2000
period. Since you are not MCSE 2000, 70-296 will not apply to you. I do
not know if Prometric is smart enough to figure that out, but it won't
matter. 70-296 will not buy you anything even if you pass it, unless hold
MCSE 2000 on or before March 31, 2008. If you want to get to MCSE 2003, you
must take 70-293 and 70-294.

John R

CarlosIgnacioTapia
Thu Feb 14 23:06:00 CST 2008

Ok, ok, you're right. It was just an idea!! :-)

What do you think of the path Iâ??m planning to follow towards my MCSE 2003 â??
Security?

01) System Core remaining 1: 70-293 - Planning and Maintaining a Windows
Server 2003 Network Infrastructure

02) System Core remaining 2: 70-294 - Planning, Implementing, and
Maintaining a Windows Server 2003 Active Directory Infrastructure

03) Desing remaining: 70-298 - Designing Security for a Microsoft Windows
Server 2003 Network

04) Comptia Security+


With these 4 exams do I get my MCSE 2003 â?? Security? Or there is still one
more missing?

Iâ??m in doubt because in the page with the requirements states â??Security
specialization (three exams required)".

Thanks a lot!

Carlos Tapia.




"John R" wrote:

>
> "Carlos Ignacio Tapia" <CarlosIgnacioTapia@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
> in message news:E42CF3D8-E594-4DEC-8CD9-066FCE6FB051@microsoft.com...
> > Hi, thanks so much for your reply.
> >
> > I was wondering...can I take 70-296 (before 03/31, of course because MS is
> > retiring it) and avoid to take individually 70-293 and 70-294?
> >
> > Exam 70-296 name states ".for an MCSE Certified on Windows 2000" and I'm
> > not. I got my MCSA 2000 and MCSA 2003. I'm not MCSE on 2000.
> >
> > If I go to Prometric and register for 70-296.will it allow me? Does
> > Prometric have anyway to check if I'm or I'm not an MCSE on 2000 yet when
> > I
> > register for 70-296?
> > If it does allow me and I pass it.will it be valid?
> >
> > Thanks!!!
> >
>
> You cannot use 70-296 to avoid 70-293 and 70-294 unless you hold MCSE 2000
> period. Since you are not MCSE 2000, 70-296 will not apply to you. I do
> not know if Prometric is smart enough to figure that out, but it won't
> matter. 70-296 will not buy you anything even if you pass it, unless hold
> MCSE 2000 on or before March 31, 2008. If you want to get to MCSE 2003, you
> must take 70-293 and 70-294.
>
> John R
>
>
>

John
Fri Feb 15 07:07:03 CST 2008


"Carlos Ignacio Tapia" <CarlosIgnacioTapia@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
in message news:DEDB228A-278A-4E80-A136-9F5E258423FF@microsoft.com...
> Ok, ok, you're right. It was just an idea!! :-)
>
> What do you think of the path I'm planning to follow towards my MCSE
> 2003 -
> Security?
>
> 01) System Core remaining 1: 70-293 - Planning and Maintaining a Windows
> Server 2003 Network Infrastructure
>
> 02) System Core remaining 2: 70-294 - Planning, Implementing, and
> Maintaining a Windows Server 2003 Active Directory Infrastructure
>
> 03) Desing remaining: 70-298 - Designing Security for a Microsoft Windows
> Server 2003 Network
>
> 04) Comptia Security+
>
>
> With these 4 exams do I get my MCSE 2003 - Security? Or there is still one
> more missing?
>
> I'm in doubt because in the page with the requirements states "Security
> specialization (three exams required)".
>
> Thanks a lot!
>
> Carlos Tapia.
>

After completing your first three steps, you will have MCSE 2003. To
continue on with the security specialization, you will need two additional
elements (with your 70-298, that makes three). Comptia Security+ is one of
those elements. You will also need one additional security element. You
can choose from 70-299, 70-227, or 70-350. (Note, 70-227 retires 03/31/08
so if you want to use that, you need to complete that test before 03/31/08).
You can see the full requirements here...

http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcse/security/windowsserver2003.mspx

Good luck to you.

John R

Bobbie
Mon May 05 10:41:00 CDT 2008

I am MCSA & MCSE on Windows Server 2003. I want to download my Certificate
from the MCP Secure Site. But it says I must have at least 1 Specialization
in order to do that. I will like to do that by writing the least number of
exams. Can anyone tell me what to do to become MCITP or MCP with 1 specialty?

Kline
Mon May 05 12:36:37 CDT 2008

>Can anyone tell me what to do to become MCITP or MCP with 1 specialty?

have you tried praying to our lord and Savior jesus christ who died
for all our sins?

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

JaR
Mon May 05 13:51:50 CDT 2008

On 5/5/2008,Kline Sphere had the unmitigated gall to claim:

> > Can anyone tell me what to do to become MCITP or MCP with 1
> > specialty?
>
> have you tried praying to our lord and Savior jesus christ who died
> for all our sins?
>
> Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

THANK YOU JESUS!

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Kline
Wed May 14 12:12:33 CDT 2008

>> > Can anyone tell me what to do to become MCITP or MCP with 1
>> > specialty?
>>
>> have you tried praying to our lord and Savior jesus christ who died
>> for all our sins?
>>
>> Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
>
>THANK YOU JESUS!

Jesus is real.

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

JaR
Wed May 14 14:34:40 CDT 2008

On 5/14/2008,Kline Sphere had the unmitigated gall to claim:

> >> > Can anyone tell me what to do to become MCITP or MCP with 1
> >> > specialty?
> >>
> >> have you tried praying to our lord and Savior jesus christ who died
> >> for all our sins?
> >>
> >> Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
> >
> > THANK YOU JESUS!
>
> Jesus is real.
>
> Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

As is FSM, may you be touched by His Noodly Appendage

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CBIC
Wed May 14 15:37:41 CDT 2008


"Kline Sphere" <.> wrote in message
news:jb7m24578nkcp1rm84784rh79u4iok91m9@4ax.com...
>>> > Can anyone tell me what to do to become MCITP or MCP with 1
>>> > specialty?
>>>
>>> have you tried praying to our lord and Savior jesus christ who died
>>> for all our sins?
>>>
>>> Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
>>
>>THANK YOU JESUS!
>
> Jesus is real.
>

You know damn right

Jtyc
Wed May 14 16:59:06 CDT 2008

> As is FSM, may you be touched by His Noodly Appendage

ha!



Jesus could eat FSM for breakfast...

Bill
Wed May 14 17:26:07 CDT 2008

"Jtyc" <yo@respondtothegroup.com> wrote in message
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>> As is FSM, may you be touched by His Noodly Appendage
>
> ha!
>
> Jesus could eat FSM for breakfast...

So I take it then that Jesus was not diabetic?

JaR
Wed May 14 18:23:22 CDT 2008

On 5/14/2008,Jtyc had the unmitigated gall to claim:

> > As is FSM, may you be touched by His Noodly Appendage
>
> ha!
>
>
>
> Jesus could eat FSM for breakfast...

FSM ladles Holy Marinara on you in forgiveness for your hubris, and
encourages you to lick His Meaty Balls.

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Jtyc
Thu May 15 09:24:24 CDT 2008

> So I take it then that Jesus was not diabetic?

I'm not sure, I never asked him...

Jtyc
Thu May 15 09:25:06 CDT 2008

> FSM ladles Holy Marinara on you in forgiveness for your hubris, and
> encourages you to lick His Meaty Balls.


You know, it all depends on the sauce.

JaR
Thu May 15 18:00:35 CDT 2008

On 5/14/2008,CBIC had the unmitigated gall to claim:

>
> "Kline Sphere" <.> wrote in message
> news:jb7m24578nkcp1rm84784rh79u4iok91m9@4ax.com... >>>> Can anyone
> tell me what to do to become MCITP or MCP with 1 >>>> specialty?
> > > >
> > > > have you tried praying to our lord and Savior jesus christ who
> > > > died for all our sins?
> > > >
> > > > Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
> > >
> > > THANK YOU JESUS!
> >
> > Jesus is real.
> >
>
> You know damn right

You bet he's real;

Many times when I am troubled or confused, I find comfort in sitting in
my back yard and having a vodka and cranberry along with a quiet
conversation with Jesus. This happened to me again recently after a
particularly difficult day.

I said "Jesus, why do I work so hard?"

And I heard the reply: "Men find many ways to demonstrate the love they
have for their family. You work hard to have a peaceful, beautiful
place for your friends and family to gather."

I said: "I thought that money was the root of all evil."

And the reply was: "No, the LOVE of money is the root of all evil.
Money is a tool; it can be used for good or bad".

I was starting to feel better, but I still had that one burning
question, so I asked it. "Jesus," I said, "what is the meaning of life?
Why am I here?"

He replied: "That is a question many men ask. The answer is in your
heart and is different for everyone. I would love to chat with you some
more, Senor, but for now, I have to finish your lawn."

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CBIC
Fri May 16 07:58:53 CDT 2008


"JaR" <jrderby@lakabux.com> wrote in message
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> Many times when I am troubled or confused, I find comfort in sitting in
> my back yard and having a vodka and cranberry along with a quiet
> conversation with Jesus. This happened to me again recently after a
> particularly difficult day.
>
> I said "Jesus, why do I work so hard?"
>
> And I heard the reply: "Men find many ways to demonstrate the love they
> have for their family. You work hard to have a peaceful, beautiful
> place for your friends and family to gather."
>
> I said: "I thought that money was the root of all evil."
>
> And the reply was: "No, the LOVE of money is the root of all evil.
> Money is a tool; it can be used for good or bad".
>
> I was starting to feel better, but I still had that one burning
> question, so I asked it. "Jesus," I said, "what is the meaning of life?
> Why am I here?"
>
> He replied: "That is a question many men ask. The answer is in your
> heart and is different for everyone. I would love to chat with you some
> more, Senor, but for now, I have to finish your lawn."
>

That's one smart gardener. Oh and PotD (as if you didn't know)

Jtyc
Fri May 16 15:36:49 CDT 2008

racist

JaR
Mon May 19 17:22:56 CDT 2008

On 5/16/2008,Jtyc had the unmitigated gall to claim:

> racist

Just exactly what about my little tale would prompt such an epithet?

Do you feel that my characterisation of my gardener as a profoundly
philosophical and wise individual was stereotypical?

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Or was it the vodka & cranberry
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Jtyc
Mon May 19 18:12:34 CDT 2008

> Just exactly what about my little tale would prompt such an epithet?
> Do you feel that my characterisation of my gardener as a profoundly
> philosophical and wise individual was stereotypical?


linguist...








> Or was it the vodka & cranberry

Whiskey and cranberry actually...