MCSE

Anyone here studying for their MCSE?

James
Thu Jun 22 12:34:54 CDT 2006

Please post all off topic/trolling/spaming replies to this thread, as to
leave the original for on topic replies only

Thanks

"James" <fake@email.com> wrote in message
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> Anyone here studying for their MCSE?
>
>

kpg
Thu Jun 22 13:07:57 CDT 2006

First of all, off topic replies are not SPAM.

SPAM is a processed food product made of Salted
Pork and Ham, and is great sliced thin and fried
with eggs.

Mostly
Thu Jun 22 13:07:21 CDT 2006

I am studying, and taking tests.

--
Mostly Gizzards

A+ Network+ MCSA


"James" <fake@email.com> wrote in message
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> Anyone here studying for their MCSE?
>
>

JaR
Thu Jun 22 13:23:46 CDT 2006

On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:34:54 -0600, James cast into the ether:

> Please post all off topic/trolling/spaming replies to this thread, as to
> leave the original for on topic replies only

Nice. Now you demonstrate that not only do you have no clue what an MCSE
cert is intended to represent, you don't understand the definition of the
term spam.

Does the boss get mad when he catches you playing with the computer when
you are supposed to be cleaning the deep-fat fryer?

--
JaR
MCNGP 22
Here there be dragons
Remove hat to reply

Gorm
Thu Jun 22 13:43:02 CDT 2006


"James" <fake@email.com> wrote in message
news:Og3blEilGHA.4080@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Anyone here studying for their MCSE?
>
>

greetings, fake

not yet, why are you asking?
wanting to waste some space?
how is wasting space better than spam?
one difference is that you can't make money on it, of course...

tism. later.

Frisbee®
Thu Jun 22 13:47:07 CDT 2006

"kpg" <no@way.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97EA859B97A4Dipostthereforeiam@127.0.0.1...
> First of all, off topic replies are not SPAM.
>
> SPAM is a processed food product made of Salted
> Pork and Ham, and is great sliced thin and fried
> with eggs.

I'll have some with not so much rat in it, thank you.

JaR
Thu Jun 22 13:58:25 CDT 2006

On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:47:07 -0400, Frisbee® cast into the ether:

> I'll have some with not so much rat in it, thank you.

Without the rat?


Eeeewww!

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JaR
MCNGP 22
Here there be dragons
Remove hat to reply

JaR
Thu Jun 22 14:00:46 CDT 2006

On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:43:02 +0200, Gorm Braarvig cast into the ether:

> wanting to waste some space?

There is a large waste of space somewhere in Canada, and it's just exactly
James-sized.

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JaR
MCNGP 22
Here there be dragons
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James
Thu Jun 22 14:05:40 CDT 2006

not really large, around 155 pounds

"JaR" <jrderby@lakabux.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.06.22.19.00.46.171831@lakabux.com...
> On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:43:02 +0200, Gorm Braarvig cast into the ether:
>
>> wanting to waste some space?
>
> There is a large waste of space somewhere in Canada, and it's just exactly
> James-sized.
>
> --
> JaR
> MCNGP 22
> Here there be dragons
> Remove hat to reply
>

MitchS
Thu Jun 22 14:05:30 CDT 2006

"Frisbee®" <billLASTNAME@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:%23VLfBxilGHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> "kpg" <no@way.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns97EA859B97A4Dipostthereforeiam@127.0.0.1...
>> First of all, off topic replies are not SPAM.
>>
>> SPAM is a processed food product made of Salted
>> Pork and Ham, and is great sliced thin and fried
>> with eggs.
>
> I'll have some with not so much rat in it, thank you.
>

Try it breaded and fried with pinto beans cornbread and buttermilk. Good
eats man, I swear to Ghod it is man.

--
Mitch "yer such a Jameshole" S.
MCNGP XLVIII (Now do the other certs REALLY matter?)
Stupidity on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.

Joshua
Thu Jun 22 15:03:10 CDT 2006

I've completed 70-270, 70-290, failed 70-293 once but i was only
getting cocky and I didnt study for the test.

Prefered study method is TestKing and for actual training to get more
familiar with a process, TestOut.

Email me joshua.pyle@gmail.com . I'd like to find someone who has some
knowledge about MCSE and wants to SERIOUSLY presue it. I have 10 years
experience with Microsoft.

-Josh

James wrote:
> Anyone here studying for their MCSE?

James
Thu Jun 22 15:23:33 CDT 2006

Yes

"JaR" <jrderby@lakabux.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.06.22.18.23.45.954197@lakabux.com...
> On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:34:54 -0600, James cast into the ether:
>
>> Please post all off topic/trolling/spaming replies to this thread, as to
>> leave the original for on topic replies only
>
> Nice. Now you demonstrate that not only do you have no clue what an MCSE
> cert is intended to represent, you don't understand the definition of the
> term spam.
>
> Does the boss get mad when he catches you playing with the computer when
> you are supposed to be cleaning the deep-fat fryer?
>
> --
> JaR
> MCNGP 22
> Here there be dragons
> Remove hat to reply
>

Frisbee®
Thu Jun 22 15:40:21 CDT 2006

"Joshua" <joshua.pyle@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1151006590.218901.26730@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
> I've completed 70-270, 70-290, failed 70-293 once but i was only
> getting cocky and I didnt study for the test.
>
> Prefered study method is TestKing and for actual training to get more
> familiar with a process, TestOut.
>
> Email me joshua.pyle@gmail.com . I'd like to find someone who has some
> knowledge about MCSE and wants to SERIOUSLY presue it. I have 10 years
> experience with Microsoft.

Say bye-bye to your certs, Joshua.

Joshua
Thu Jun 22 17:30:26 CDT 2006

Frisbee,

Why's that? Does Microsoft disallow the use of study guides now? I
know that braindumps and Q/A from the test are a violation, but I do
not believe that MCSE Study guides are against this policy. If you
can't use a study guide (even Microsoft Press has published study
guides and books) what are you suppose to use ?


Frisbee=AE wrote:
> "Joshua" <joshua.pyle@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1151006590.218901.26730@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
> > I've completed 70-270, 70-290, failed 70-293 once but i was only
> > getting cocky and I didnt study for the test.
> >
> > Prefered study method is TestKing and for actual training to get more
> > familiar with a process, TestOut.
> >
> > Email me joshua.pyle@gmail.com . I'd like to find someone who has some
> > knowledge about MCSE and wants to SERIOUSLY presue it. I have 10 years
> > experience with Microsoft.
>=20
> Say bye-bye to your certs, Joshua.

Mostly
Thu Jun 22 18:00:31 CDT 2006

TestK!ng = Bra!ndvmps

Grats!

--
Mostly Gizzards

A+ Network+ MCSA


"Joshua" <joshua.pyle@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1151015426.457536.309230@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
Frisbee,

Why's that? Does Microsoft disallow the use of study guides now? I
know that braindumps and Q/A from the test are a violation, but I do
not believe that MCSE Study guides are against this policy. If you
can't use a study guide (even Microsoft Press has published study
guides and books) what are you suppose to use ?


Frisbee® wrote:
> "Joshua" <joshua.pyle@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1151006590.218901.26730@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
> > I've completed 70-270, 70-290, failed 70-293 once but i was only
> > getting cocky and I didnt study for the test.
> >
> > Prefered study method is TestKing and for actual training to get more
> > familiar with a process, TestOut.
> >
> > Email me joshua.pyle@gmail.com . I'd like to find someone who has some
> > knowledge about MCSE and wants to SERIOUSLY presue it. I have 10 years
> > experience with Microsoft.
>
> Say bye-bye to your certs, Joshua.

Frisbee®
Thu Jun 22 19:52:15 CDT 2006

"Joshua" <joshua.pyle@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1151015426.457536.309230@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
Frisbee,

Why's that? Does Microsoft disallow the use of study guides now? I
know that braindumps and Q/A from the test are a violation, but I do
not believe that MCSE Study guides are against this policy. If you
can't use a study guide (even Microsoft Press has published study
guides and books) what are you suppose to use ?

You know what, Joshua, either you are just innocently naive, or you're a
really good troll. If it's the former, you really should have spent a
little more time reading in this newsgroup before posting. As Mostly
Gizzards has already informed you, Testking is a br@indump, and also
qualifies you to be un-certified, and also banned from further
certifications from Microsoft. In fact, I had already forwarded your post
to tctips@microsoft.com, and fellow MCNGP members... wait until you read
this:

Within about ten minutes, I got a PERSONAL reply from Shon Hong, thanking me
for bringing it to his attention, and assuring me that they would pursue
this. Now, after reading your reply, Joshua, I'm tending to regret
reporting you so quickly. Like I said, either you're doing a pretty good
act, or you're really naive. I hope you can convince the people at
Microsoft that you HONESTLY did not know that Testking was a br@indump, as
you seem to know that br@indumps are in violation. Those two things do seem
to contradict each other, however.

According to Shon, you may very well lose your current certifications and be
banned from any future certifications. Had you merely lurked in this group
for a while before posting with your real name and stating openly that you
used Testkings, you might have saved yourself quite a bit of trouble.

Joshua, you say you've been in IT for ten years. Let's hope that you can
use that on your resume because it looks like you might not be able to claim
any certs.

BD>
Fri Jun 23 00:53:06 CDT 2006

Imagine what your life would be like if [Frisbee®] hadn't posted
{ e3R6H9llGHA.3528@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl }
---
BWAHAHAHA!!!!!.... you want a REAL laugh Fris? The d!psh!t posted from his Work
IP (I think) Well, it's a small IP Block (/27) leased to Culpepper & Associates
in Alpharetta, GA, I'll find out if he works there when they respond to my
e-mail.


BWAHAHAH!!! What a maroon!

--
Bigus Di©kus
MCNGP #00110011
-- MCNGP.com - 200 proof

Cerebrus
Fri Jun 23 01:48:38 CDT 2006


Thus spake Joshua :

> I've completed 70-270, 70-290, failed 70-293 once but i was only
> getting cocky and I didnt study for the test.

Well, that's just one of the tests of life, that you've failed now. And
it looks like you just ruined all the time you spent on the one's you
passed by confessing to use Br@indumps.

> Prefered study method is TestKing and for actual training to get more
> familiar with a process, TestOut.

TestK!ing, a study method ??????? I've heard of using euphemisms, but
that's taking things way too far ! I mean, a Br@indump is a Br@indump,
by any other name.

LoopBack
Fri Jun 23 01:53:41 CDT 2006

James wrote:
> Anyone here studying for their MCSE?

I'm not, I'm building experience. When I'm comfortable with my
knowledge, I might do an MCP.
--
LoopBack
MCNGP#52

Cerebrus
Fri Jun 23 01:57:43 CDT 2006


Thus spake Frisbee=AE :
> "Joshua" <joshua.pyle@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1151015426.457536.309230@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> Frisbee,
>
> Why's that? Does Microsoft disallow the use of study guides now? I
> know that braindumps and Q/A from the test are a violation, but I do
> not believe that MCSE Study guides are against this policy. If you
> can't use a study guide (even Microsoft Press has published study
> guides and books) what are you suppose to use ?
>
> You know what, Joshua, either you are just innocently naive, or you're a
> really good troll. If it's the former, you really should have spent a
> little more time reading in this newsgroup before posting. As Mostly
> Gizzards has already informed you, Testking is a br@indump, and also
> qualifies you to be un-certified, and also banned from further
> certifications from Microsoft. In fact, I had already forwarded your post
> to tctips@microsoft.com, and fellow MCNGP members... wait until you read
> this:
>
> Within about ten minutes, I got a PERSONAL reply from Shon Hong, thanking=
me
> for bringing it to his attention, and assuring me that they would pursue
> this. Now, after reading your reply, Joshua, I'm tending to regret
> reporting you so quickly. Like I said, either you're doing a pretty good
> act, or you're really naive. I hope you can convince the people at
> Microsoft that you HONESTLY did not know that Testking was a br@indump, as
> you seem to know that br@indumps are in violation. Those two things do s=
eem
> to contradict each other, however.
>
> According to Shon, you may very well lose your current certifications and=
be
> banned from any future certifications. Had you merely lurked in this gro=
up
> for a while before posting with your real name and stating openly that you
> used Testkings, you might have saved yourself quite a bit of trouble.
>
> Joshua, you say you've been in IT for ten years. Let's hope that you can
> use that on your resume because it looks like you might not be able to cl=
aim
> any certs.

Fris,

Is the excuse of ignorance sufficient reason not to be prosecuted, in
this case ? In other words, if Joshua here says that he had absolutely
no idea that TestK!ng material is a Br@indump, would they spare him
with a warning or somethin' ? I mean, so that we can see him on the
next episode of "Ripley's Believe It or Not ! ".

That would be like ... I kill a few people and then naively tell the
cops "C'mon man, I was just havin' myself some fun ! What's wrong with
a little shootin', eh ?"

MitchS
Fri Jun 23 07:19:29 CDT 2006

"Cerebrus" <zorg007@sify.com> wrote in message
news:1151045863.734478.53680@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

> "C'mon man, I was just havin' myself some fun ! What's wrong with
a little shootin', eh ?"

I don't think they have guns in Canada.

--
Mitch "yer such a Jameshole" S.
MCNGP XLVIII (Now do the other certs REALLY matter?)
Stupidity on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.

Frisbee®
Fri Jun 23 07:27:52 CDT 2006

<BD> wrote in message news:uqbL9iolGHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Imagine what your life would be like if [Frisbee®] hadn't posted
> { e3R6H9llGHA.3528@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl }
> ---
> BWAHAHAHA!!!!!.... you want a REAL laugh Fris? The d!psh!t posted from his
> Work IP (I think) Well, it's a small IP Block (/27) leased to Culpepper &
> Associates in Alpharetta, GA, I'll find out if he works there when they
> respond to my e-mail.
>
>
> BWAHAHAH!!! What a maroon!

You're very close on the location. Check the sekrit forums on the web site
for more info.

BD>
Fri Jun 23 08:32:08 CDT 2006

Imagine what your life would be like if [Frisbee®] hadn't posted
{ uvO9vBslGHA.3468@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl }
---
>
> You're very close on the location. Check the sekrit forums on the web site
> for more info.
>
I know he works for Culpepper & Ass., I cross referenced the ip he posted from
with the IP address leased by Culpepper.com, the NS1.culpepper.com name server
is 65.103.72.99.

Funny how people don't think before they leave all this Digital DNA behind.

--
Bigus Di©kus
MCNGP #00110011
-- MCNGP.com - 200 proof

Frisbee®
Fri Jun 23 08:32:12 CDT 2006

<BD> wrote in message news:eTXZdjslGHA.1640@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Imagine what your life would be like if [Frisbee®] hadn't posted
> { uvO9vBslGHA.3468@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl }
> ---
>>
>> You're very close on the location. Check the sekrit forums on the web
>> site
>> for more info.
>>
> I know he works for Culpepper & Ass., I cross referenced the ip he posted
> from with the IP address leased by Culpepper.com, the NS1.culpepper.com
> name server is 65.103.72.99.
>
> Funny how people don't think before they leave all this Digital DNA
> behind.

I wonder how his employer feels about their employees using cheating
material. Do keep us informed.

Mostly
Fri Jun 23 09:00:07 CDT 2006

I have much envy of the super sekrit forums.

--
Mostly Gizzards

A+ Network+ MCSA


"Frisbee®" <billLASTNAME@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uvO9vBslGHA.3468@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> <BD> wrote in message news:uqbL9iolGHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Imagine what your life would be like if [Frisbee®] hadn't posted
>> { e3R6H9llGHA.3528@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl }
>> ---
>> BWAHAHAHA!!!!!.... you want a REAL laugh Fris? The d!psh!t posted from
>> his Work IP (I think) Well, it's a small IP Block (/27) leased to
>> Culpepper & Associates in Alpharetta, GA, I'll find out if he works there
>> when they respond to my e-mail.
>>
>>
>> BWAHAHAH!!! What a maroon!
>
> You're very close on the location. Check the sekrit forums on the web
> site for more info.
>
>

kpg
Fri Jun 23 09:18:51 CDT 2006

As Mostly Gizzards once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse

> I have much envy of the super sekrit forums.

There is a cure for that if you have the right stuff.

Neil
Fri Jun 23 10:24:33 CDT 2006

did you hear "MitchS" <firstinitlastname@nospam.gmail.com> say in
news:ulQ3x8rlGHA.2136@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:

> I don't think they have guns in Canada.

epends on whether there are tourists or not...

"They SAID it was tourist season!"

--
The InterNeil MCNGP Triple X

- A Nobel Peace Prize? I'd kill for one of those.

MitchS
Fri Jun 23 11:03:08 CDT 2006



--
Mitch "yer such a Jameshole" S.
MCNGP XLVIII (Now do the other certs REALLY matter?)
Stupidity on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.

"Neil" <guess!!!@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97EB740F62E58neilmcsegmailcom@207.46.248.16...
> did you hear "MitchS" <firstinitlastname@nospam.gmail.com> say in
> news:ulQ3x8rlGHA.2136@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:
>
>> I don't think they have guns in Canada.
>
> epends on whether there are tourists or not...
>
> "They SAID it was tourist season!"

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!1!111!!one!!

Tourists in Canada, you're a funny guy..

JaR
Fri Jun 23 11:34:44 CDT 2006

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 07:19:29 -0500, MitchS cast into the ether:

>
> I don't think they have guns in Canada.

No, in Canada, only the criminals have guns.

--
JaR
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Here there be dragons
Remove hat to reply

Neil
Fri Jun 23 12:04:24 CDT 2006

did you hear JaR <jrderby@lakabux.com> say in
news:pan.2006.06.23.16.34.44.705632@lakabux.com:

> No, in Canada, only the criminals have guns.

and they rush the border to watch the rent-a-cops run...

--
The InterNeil MCNGP Triple X

- ?pu gnikcab yb naem uoy tahw siht sI

Neil
Fri Jun 23 12:05:10 CDT 2006

did you hear "MitchS" <firstinitlastname@nospam.gmail.com> say in
news:eJ#dt5tlGHA.836@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:

> BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!1!111!!one!!
>
> Tourists in Canada, you're a funny guy..

feel free to leave your money at our casinos, hotels, resorts....

..my pocket...

--
The InterNeil MCNGP Triple X

- Blessed is the end-user who expects nothing, for he shall not be
dissapointed.

JaR
Fri Jun 23 12:11:01 CDT 2006

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:04:24 -0700, Neil cast into the ether:

>> No, in Canada, only the criminals have guns.
>
> and they rush the border to watch the rent-a-cops run...

I can see your heart is bursting with pride...

--
JaR
MCNGP 22
Here there be dragons
Remove hat to reply

Neil
Fri Jun 23 12:39:50 CDT 2006

did you hear JaR <jrderby@lakabux.com> say in
news:pan.2006.06.23.17.11.01.476737@lakabux.com:

> I can see your heart is bursting with pride...

F@#$%^n' POINTLESSNESS OF A 'GUARD' WITHOUT A GUN!

--
The InterNeil MCNGP Triple X

- Microsoft's new slogan: "Wait for us! We're the leaders!"

Neil
Fri Jun 23 12:49:43 CDT 2006

did you hear JaR <jrderby@lakabux.com> say in
news:pan.2006.06.23.17.11.01.476737@lakabux.com:

>
> I can see your heart is bursting with pride...
>

...and you don't realize the discomfort we are currently experiencing in
the Toronto area over gun violence. Your words were truer to the point
than you realize. Gangs, Immigration issues, inability of gobermints to
provide adequate security/fundings/programs to reduce guns and gun
violence. Friggin unbelievable.

As a Canadian, I am not a gun proponent - that's just part of our culture
and I like it this way. My arms are furry enough without the right to
Bear arms. I think that those involved in our security - Police AND
border guards - should be properly equipped to do the job that they have
been employed to do. I don't think that every person should have teh
right to carry weaponry and I DO think that if it's done right only the
cops and the criminals will have hand guns (only certain animals are
hunted with a pistol).

Still, when a 15 year old girl gets gunned down and several others are
injured in crossfire between rival gangs on one of Toronto's main streets
during Christmas, I think it's time for us to bring back the death
penalty. A couple of crispy critters might (maybe) make a few others
think twice about being trigger happy.

my 2¢

--
The InterNeil MCNGP Triple X

- Avoid junk mail, get an unlisted ZIP code.

JaR
Fri Jun 23 13:02:41 CDT 2006

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:49:43 -0700, Neil cast into the ether:

> I think it's time for us to bring back the death
> penalty. A couple of crispy critters might (maybe) make a few others
> think twice about being trigger happy.

The only ones it makes happy are the lawyers(what's new?) I doesn't seem
to have much effect on the perps when they know that even if they are
sentenced to death, it will be many years before all the appeals are done
and many millions of taxpayers bucks later. I stopped supporting the death
penalty for that reason alone. Just the initial prosecution on a death
penalty trial costs an order of magnitude more than if they were only
going for life.

But then, this would be the wrong place for that sort of a discussion, so
I won't say anything about it.

--
JaR
MCNGP 22
Here there be dragons
Remove hat to reply

kpg
Fri Jun 23 14:01:29 CDT 2006

As Neil once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse

>> I can see your heart is bursting with pride...
>
> F@#$%^n' POINTLESSNESS OF A 'GUARD' WITHOUT A GUN!

I don't know about now-a-days, but when I lived in
Okinawa, the cops did not have guns and this was not
a detriment to them in the slightest. They carried
batons, one end red the other green. If they pointed
the red end at you it meant STOP. Bad news it you
disobeyed.

kp "fish heads and rice, yum" g

Kline
Fri Jun 23 14:07:40 CDT 2006

>I wonder how his employer feels about their employees using cheating
>material. Do keep us informed.

his employer may well have told him to use testsh*t!

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

Kline
Fri Jun 23 14:08:24 CDT 2006

>Email me joshua.pyle@gmail.com . I'd like to find someone who has some
>knowledge about MCSE and wants to SERIOUSLY presue it. I have 10 years
>experience with Microsoft.

yet you have to cheat, how bizarre....

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

BD>
Fri Jun 23 14:26:59 CDT 2006

<< While I was at work, Frisbee® spurted out:
<<------------------------------------------>>
>
> I wonder how his employer feels about their employees using cheating
> material. Do keep us informed.
>
Believe me, I will keep you abreast of the situation. Debating on if I should
also post the info here. Probably be best not to.

--
BD
MCNGP #00110011
-- MCNGP.com - The Proof is in the Pudding

BD>
Thu Jun 22 20:07:21 CDT 2006

<< While I was at work, Frisbee® spurted out:
<<------------------------------------------>>
Ok, so maybe you weren't busy....or it could have been that my boss started
configuring his new computer himself and I had to stop him from screwing it up.
Oh well, one of was sure to get the point across to him.....lol....right....not
this guy.


--
BD
MCNGP #00110011
-- MCNGP.com - The Proof is in the Pudding

BD>
Thu Jun 22 20:04:47 CDT 2006

<< While I was at work, Joshua spurted out:
<<------------------------------------------>>
> Frisbee,
>
> Why's that? Does Microsoft disallow the use of study guides now? I
> know that braindumps and Q/A from the test are a violation, but I do
> not believe that MCSE Study guides are against this policy. If you
> can't use a study guide (even Microsoft Press has published study
> guides and books) what are you suppose to use ?
>
>
Fris, I'll take this, I know you're busy.

Joshua...you're a fool. How could you NOT notice that T3stk1ng BOASTS "100%
Actual Exam Questions"??? That in itself is a VIOLATION of the M$ NDA....you
remember...the thingy on the big screen that you READ and clicked OK to before
you took the test. You DID read that, didn't you? Nope, didn't think so. That
was foolish move #2.

Foolish moves #3-#6 are doozies. Not only did you advertise your ignorance of
the NDA, you come in here flaunting not only that you used the br@indumps, and
the exam numbers to which you cheated at, you foolishly post your e-mail address
as well. Not to mention the fact that you used Google-Groups to post it, and you
didn't think about it tracing back to here:
http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?ip=65.172.103.111.

I'd say you're pretty much fu©ked! Enjoy life at the bottom!

--
BD
MCNGP #00110011
-- MCNGP.com - Br@indump Killaaaaaas!






Hey Shon,

I'm sure you've probably got it, but you know me...gotta stick my hand in the
pot every so often.

BD>
Thu Jun 22 19:39:46 CDT 2006

<< While I was at work, James spurted out:
<<------------------------------------------>>
> not really large, around 155 pounds
>
At 3ft tall, that is quite large.

--
BD
MCNGP #00110011
-- MCNGP.com - The Proof is in the Pudding

kpg
Fri Jun 23 15:24:54 CDT 2006

As _unanswered_ once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse

> # Name resolution details: file://c:\temp\199709.htm (6/23/2006
> 3:23:00 PM) # << While I was at work, James spurted out:
> <<------------------------------------------>>
>> not really large, around 155 pounds
>>
> At 3ft tall, that is quite large.

The biggest (documented) man to ever live was 8' 11".
It wasn't the 8' that impressed every one, it was
the 11".

Neil
Fri Jun 23 15:23:33 CDT 2006

did you hear JaR <jrderby@lakabux.com> say in
news:pan.2006.06.23.18.02.41.577025@lakabux.com:

> But then, this would be the wrong place for that sort of a discussion,
so
> I won't say anything about it.

uh, right.

look, I'm not saying that there wouldn't be issues as we have had all
kinds of "oops, we done put ya in jail when we shunna" things happening
up here. And I already think that I've been taxed to death for too long
(how much does YOUR gas cost. Does $3.80+/gal sound ok to you?). Still,
without even the threat of the death penalty, I think that we send the
wrong message to people. And don't even get me started on the "young
offenders act"..harumph...

--
The InterNeil MCNGP Triple X

- Loop, Endless: (noun) See Endless Loop.

Neil
Fri Jun 23 15:24:25 CDT 2006

did you hear kpg <no@way.com> say in
news:Xns97EB8EAE0426Cipostthereforeiam@127.0.0.1:

> Bad news it you
> disobeyed.
>

are you indicating that we need to have our border guards take more martial
arts training or load them up with fish?

--
The InterNeil MCNGP Triple X

- Change politicians and diapers often--for the same reason.

kpg
Fri Jun 23 15:38:41 CDT 2006

As Neil once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse

> # Name resolution details: file://c:\temp\199719.htm (6/23/2006
> 3:37:31 PM) # did you hear kpg <no@way.com> say in
> news:Xns97EB8EAE0426Cipostthereforeiam@127.0.0.1:
>
>> Bad news it you
>> disobeyed.
>>
>
> are you indicating that we need to have our border guards take more
> martial arts training or load them up with fish?

Yes.


kp "canadians, oie!" g

MitchS
Fri Jun 23 15:42:10 CDT 2006

"kpg" <no@way.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97EB8EAE0426Cipostthereforeiam@127.0.0.1...
> As Neil once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
>
>>> I can see your heart is bursting with pride...
>>
>> F@#$%^n' POINTLESSNESS OF A 'GUARD' WITHOUT A GUN!
>
> I don't know about now-a-days, but when I lived in
> Okinawa, the cops did not have guns and this was not
> a detriment to them in the slightest. They carried
> batons, one end red the other green. If they pointed
> the red end at you it meant STOP. Bad news it you
> disobeyed.

Yeah, then both ends are red, they're outta breath, and you're unconsious.
Somethin like that?

--
Mitch "yer such a Jameshole" S.
MCNGP XLVIII (Now do the other certs REALLY matter?)
Stupidity on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.

kpg
Fri Jun 23 15:46:59 CDT 2006

As MitchS once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse

> # Name resolution details: file://c:\temp\199722.htm (6/23/2006
> 3:46:08 PM) # "kpg" <no@way.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns97EB8EAE0426Cipostthereforeiam@127.0.0.1...
>> As Neil once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
>>
>>>> I can see your heart is bursting with pride...
>>>
>>> F@#$%^n' POINTLESSNESS OF A 'GUARD' WITHOUT A GUN!
>>
>> I don't know about now-a-days, but when I lived in
>> Okinawa, the cops did not have guns and this was not
>> a detriment to them in the slightest. They carried
>> batons, one end red the other green. If they pointed
>> the red end at you it meant STOP. Bad news it you
>> disobeyed.
>
> Yeah, then both ends are red, they're outta breath, and you're
> unconsious. Somethin like that?

I don't remember. I was drunk.

JaR
Fri Jun 23 16:34:52 CDT 2006

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:23:33 -0700, Neil cast into the ether:

> (how much does YOUR gas cost. Does $3.80+/gal sound ok to you?).

I see gas in your area is about $.95Can/Liter.

That works out to...lessee..carry the....times...uhhh...convert
to...ummm....about $3.21US/Gal.

Right at three bucks/gal here, some parts of the country higher, some
prolly a tad lower.

Now if ya want to start lining people up against a wall, howzbout we start
with oil execs?

NO! NOT! JUST KIDDING! SORRY! CALL OFF BLACK HELOS AND PLEASE TO NOT KICK
IN DOOR! THE ABOVE IS MEANT AS A JOKE! I DO NOT ADVOCATE THE HARMING OF
ANYONE! ESPECIALLY NOT FRIENDLY AND BENEVOLENT OIL EXECS AND THE KINDLY
AND HONEST POLITICIANS THEY HAVE PAID SO MUCH OF MY HARD EARNED MONEY FOR!

--
JaR
MCNGP 22
Here there be dragons
Remove hat to reply

Neil
Fri Jun 23 17:29:15 CDT 2006

did you hear kpg <no@way.com> say in
news:Xns97EB9F2848279ipostthereforeiam@127.0.0.1:

>> are you indicating that we need to have our border guards take more
>> martial arts training or load them up with fish?
>
> Yes.

That was shocking...

--
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- How many feminists does it take to screw in a lightbulb? That's not
funny!

Neil
Fri Jun 23 17:34:25 CDT 2006

did you hear JaR <jrderby@lakabux.com> say in
news:pan.2006.06.23.21.34.52.711901@lakabux.com:

> I see gas in your area is about $.95Can/Liter.
>

$1.01 here. I would be ok to take $0.95

> That works out to...lessee..carry the....times...uhhh...convert
> to...ummm....about $3.21US/Gal.

um, did you also factor in that the Canajian dollah is only $.90 USD?

lessee..carry the....times...uhhh...convert: $4.22/gal hmmmmmmmmmmm

--
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- Veni, Vidi, Vestibule ( I came, I saw, I hid in the closet)

JaR
Fri Jun 23 17:49:14 CDT 2006

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 15:34:25 -0700, Neil cast into the ether:

> $1.01 here. I would be ok to take $0.95
>
>> That works out to...lessee..carry the....times...uhhh...convert
>> to...ummm....about $3.21US/Gal.
>
> um, did you also factor in that the Canajian dollah is only $.90 USD?
>
> lessee..carry the....times...uhhh...convert: $4.22/gal hmmmmmmmmmmm

Not exactly. $1.01/L Can x 3.785L/US Gal = $3.82Can X .890551[1] =
$3.40 US.

[1]current rate as per http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert.cgi

--
JaR
MCNGP 22
Here there be dragons
Remove hat to reply

Neil
Fri Jun 23 18:11:57 CDT 2006

did you hear JaR <jrderby@lakabux.com> say in
news:pan.2006.06.23.22.49.14.298834@lakabux.com:

> Not exactly. $1.01/L Can x 3.785L/US Gal = $3.82Can X .890551[1] =
> $3.40 US.

alrighty, it's after beer thirty so my math may be off. I no longer care

--
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- If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.

Mark
Fri Jun 23 20:16:17 CDT 2006

I subscribed to this newsgroup about a week ago and haven't read hardly any
messages. However, I do have a question regarding third-party Microsoft
Certification web sites. How are you supposed to know whether a web site,
such as Test King, as I gather in this discussion, are not creditable for
Microsoft Certifications?

I will soon be taking the MCP to MCSE exams through an authorized Microsoft
Education location in my area and thought about getting some practice tests
from some web sites. After reading this message thread, I have second
thoughts.

Thanks.


"Frisbee®" <billLASTNAME@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e3R6H9llGHA.3528@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> "Joshua" <joshua.pyle@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1151015426.457536.309230@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> Frisbee,
>
> Why's that? Does Microsoft disallow the use of study guides now? I
> know that braindumps and Q/A from the test are a violation, but I do
> not believe that MCSE Study guides are against this policy. If you
> can't use a study guide (even Microsoft Press has published study
> guides and books) what are you suppose to use ?
>
> You know what, Joshua, either you are just innocently naive, or you're a
> really good troll. If it's the former, you really should have spent a
> little more time reading in this newsgroup before posting. As Mostly
> Gizzards has already informed you, Testking is a br@indump, and also
> qualifies you to be un-certified, and also banned from further
> certifications from Microsoft. In fact, I had already forwarded your post
> to tctips@microsoft.com, and fellow MCNGP members... wait until you read
> this:
>
> Within about ten minutes, I got a PERSONAL reply from Shon Hong, thanking
> me for bringing it to his attention, and assuring me that they would
> pursue this. Now, after reading your reply, Joshua, I'm tending to regret
> reporting you so quickly. Like I said, either you're doing a pretty good
> act, or you're really naive. I hope you can convince the people at
> Microsoft that you HONESTLY did not know that Testking was a br@indump, as
> you seem to know that br@indumps are in violation. Those two things do
> seem to contradict each other, however.
>
> According to Shon, you may very well lose your current certifications and
> be banned from any future certifications. Had you merely lurked in this
> group for a while before posting with your real name and stating openly
> that you used Testkings, you might have saved yourself quite a bit of
> trouble.
>
> Joshua, you say you've been in IT for ten years. Let's hope that you can
> use that on your resume because it looks like you might not be able to
> claim any certs.
>
>

BD>
Fri Jun 23 20:51:05 CDT 2006

Imagine what your life would be like if [kpg] hadn't posted
{ Xns97EB9CD346CFFipostthereforeiam@127.0.0.1 }
---
> As _unanswered_ once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
>
>> # Name resolution details: file://c:\temp\199709.htm (6/23/2006
>> 3:23:00 PM) # << While I was at work, James spurted out:
>> <<------------------------------------------>>
>>> not really large, around 155 pounds
>>>
>> At 3ft tall, that is quite large.
>
> The biggest (documented) man to ever live was 8' 11".
> It wasn't the 8' that impressed every one, it was
> the 11".
>
If all an 8' man had to brag about was 11"....


....then he's probably leaving behind some happy women.
--
Bigus Di©kus
MCNGP #00110011
-- MCNGP.com - 200 proof

Frisbee®
Fri Jun 23 20:51:37 CDT 2006

"Mark" <someone@somewhere.net> wrote in message
news:ePxPKvylGHA.3752@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>I subscribed to this newsgroup about a week ago and haven't read hardly any
>messages. However, I do have a question regarding third-party Microsoft
>Certification web sites. How are you supposed to know whether a web site,
>such as Test King, as I gather in this discussion, are not creditable for
>Microsoft Certifications?
>
> I will soon be taking the MCP to MCSE exams through an authorized
> Microsoft Education location in my area and thought about getting some
> practice tests from some web sites. After reading this message thread, I
> have second thoughts.

Mark, that's a valid question.

For starters, any practise test that uses words like "Actual questions" and
sometimes "100% passing guaruntee" are usually br@indumps. If you're not
sure, then post a URL here, and one of us would be more than happy to either
tell you whether or not it's legit, or if we haven't seen it before we'll
check it out ourselves.

We may come across the wrong way to -some- people, but we really are "here
to help."

BD>
Fri Jun 23 21:09:57 CDT 2006

Imagine what your life would be like if [Mark] hadn't posted
{ ePxPKvylGHA.3752@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl }
---
> I subscribed to this newsgroup about a week ago and haven't read hardly any
> messages. However, I do have a question regarding third-party Microsoft
> Certification web sites. How are you supposed to know whether a web site,
> such as Test King, as I gather in this discussion, are not creditable for
> Microsoft Certifications?
>
Now that is a well planned, thought out question. Why can more people like you
*think* about what they're going to post before they just spurt out the first
thing that comes to their puny minds?

Ok, sorry, had to get that out. To answer your question, any company that boasts
using Exact/Real/Actual/<add your own synonym> Exam questions is producing
illegal material. Take a few minutes and read the FAQs on "Security and
Integrity" in the Exam section of the M$ Learning site. Also do a search in M$
for "NDA" or "Non-Disclosure Agreement".

Obviously if you go to a bookstore and pick up a Sybex, or Exam Cram, or MS
Press book you're not going to be buying illegal material. The illegal material
is usually given (but also sold) by companies that steal the information from
the Exams....now, this is not limited to M$...Cisco, CompTia, Sun, HP...all of
them suffer from these br@indumps being posted.

> I will soon be taking the MCP to MCSE exams through an authorized Microsoft
> Education location in my area and thought about getting some practice tests
> from some web sites. After reading this message thread, I have second
> thoughts.
>
There are plenty of "Legit" companies out there that produce quality material
for studying. Microsoft recommends MeasureUp and SelfTestSoftware. The reason
behind this is because they are Certified by Microsoft (I do believe the only
two currently, but check me on that). Anyways, AppDev for one is trying to get
Certified by M$, I received a free CD from them that contains complete training
for the 70-290 exam. So, there are companies out there that want to train people
the proper way.

Then there are the companies that are out there for themselves, for nothing but
money in their pockets...T3stking for one, C3rtkiller is another, There are
dozens upon dozens of br@indump companies out there. The best thing is to read
the About Info for the site before you delve into anything. Spend some time
learning what the site is about. If you're seriously in doubt, come back here,
or go to www.MCNGP.com and ask about it...and tell 'em I sent ya ;)

>
> Thanks.
>
NP.
--
Bigus Di©kus
MCNGP #00110011
-- MCNGP.com - 200 proof

Mark
Fri Jun 23 21:10:53 CDT 2006

Microsoft should provide a list, if possible, to known vendors that are not
creditable for Microsoft Certifications.

After 20+ years in the IT field, I am finally going to get my
certifications.

I'm starting on the CompTIA's Network+ study guide that I picked up at the
local library, and then the MCP (70-270 or 70-271).



"Frisbee®" <billLASTNAME@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:eHTU9CzlGHA.3468@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> "Mark" <someone@somewhere.net> wrote in message
> news:ePxPKvylGHA.3752@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>I subscribed to this newsgroup about a week ago and haven't read hardly
>>any messages. However, I do have a question regarding third-party
>>Microsoft Certification web sites. How are you supposed to know whether a
>>web site, such as Test King, as I gather in this discussion, are not
>>creditable for Microsoft Certifications?
>>
>> I will soon be taking the MCP to MCSE exams through an authorized
>> Microsoft Education location in my area and thought about getting some
>> practice tests from some web sites. After reading this message thread, I
>> have second thoughts.
>
> Mark, that's a valid question.
>
> For starters, any practise test that uses words like "Actual questions"
> and sometimes "100% passing guaruntee" are usually br@indumps. If you're
> not sure, then post a URL here, and one of us would be more than happy to
> either tell you whether or not it's legit, or if we haven't seen it before
> we'll check it out ourselves.
>
> We may come across the wrong way to -some- people, but we really are "here
> to help."
>
>

BD>
Fri Jun 23 21:32:42 CDT 2006

Imagine what your life would be like if [Mark] hadn't posted
{ enI%23qNzlGHA.3600@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl }
---
> Microsoft should provide a list, if possible, to known vendors that are not
> creditable for Microsoft Certifications.
>
I agree, but I'm guessing that would open some sort of venues for companes to
lash back at M$. Like Fris stated, you can post here (or in the MCNGP forum) for
answers.

> After 20+ years in the IT field, I am finally going to get my
> certifications.
>
Good luck, you sound like you've got what it takes. I've only got 7 years in the
IT field and I'm just now starting on my certs too.

> I'm starting on the CompTIA's Network+ study guide that I picked up at the
> local library, and then the MCP (70-270 or 70-271).
>
You might also be interested in the Security+ exam, it is an alternative pre-req
for the MCSA and MCSE.

--
Bigus Di©kus
MCNGP #00110011
-- MCNGP.com - 200 proof

Mark
Fri Jun 23 21:36:34 CDT 2006

I believe Security+ has been included in my list of exams. However, I am
taking one-by-one.


<BD> wrote in message news:uVh$nXzlGHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Imagine what your life would be like if [Mark] hadn't posted
> { enI%23qNzlGHA.3600@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl }
> ---
>> Microsoft should provide a list, if possible, to known vendors that are
>> not
>> creditable for Microsoft Certifications.
>>
> I agree, but I'm guessing that would open some sort of venues for companes
> to lash back at M$. Like Fris stated, you can post here (or in the MCNGP
> forum) for answers.
>
>> After 20+ years in the IT field, I am finally going to get my
>> certifications.
>>
> Good luck, you sound like you've got what it takes. I've only got 7 years
> in the IT field and I'm just now starting on my certs too.
>
>> I'm starting on the CompTIA's Network+ study guide that I picked up at
>> the
>> local library, and then the MCP (70-270 or 70-271).
>>
> You might also be interested in the Security+ exam, it is an alternative
> pre-req for the MCSA and MCSE.
>
> --
> Bigus Di©kus
> MCNGP #00110011
> -- MCNGP.com - 200 proof
>

Neil
Fri Jun 23 21:52:16 CDT 2006

did you hear kpg <no@way.com> say in
news:Xns97EB9CD346CFFipostthereforeiam@127.0.0.1:

> It wasn't the 8' that impressed every one, it was
> the 11".
>
>

you'd have to buy a lot of shoes with 8 feet

--
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- backup C: A: | format C: | ...where's my copy of RESTORE?!?

Jtyc
Mon Jun 26 10:14:55 CDT 2006

> $3.40 US.

Saw $3.39 for the cheap stuff off the freeway as I was driving home
yesterday.




I love California.


No I don't, just kidding.

Jtyc
Mon Jun 26 10:26:02 CDT 2006

> Damn. I lucked out by paying $2.87 this morning.

I hate you.


$3.11 locally.

JaR
Mon Jun 26 10:26:23 CDT 2006

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:11:57 -0700, Neil cast into the ether:

>> Not exactly. $1.01/L Can x 3.785L/US Gal = $3.82Can X .890551[1] =
>> $3.40 US.
>
> alrighty, it's after beer thirty so my math may be off. I no longer care

That's okay. I know it ticks you Canucks off when a Murrican is smarter
than you.

--
JaR
MCNGP 22
Here there be dragons
Remove hat to reply

Briscobar
Mon Jun 26 10:22:46 CDT 2006

Jtyc <yo@respondtothegroup.com> rambled:
>
>> $3.40 US.
>
> Saw $3.39 for the cheap stuff off the freeway as I was driving home
> yesterday.
>
>
>
>
> I love California.
>
>
> No I don't, just kidding.

Damn. I lucked out by paying $2.87 this morning. Usually I pay $3.00 even.
Well, by "usually", I mean the last few weeks.

--
KB

MCNGP #26
I'm running out of stupid stuff to write. Oh by the way: www.mcngp.com.

Consultant
Mon Jun 26 10:32:10 CDT 2006

3.35

"Jtyc" <yo@respondtothegroup.com> wrote in message
news:OGf2DTTmGHA.2112@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Damn. I lucked out by paying $2.87 this morning.
>
> I hate you.
>
>
> $3.11 locally.
>

MitchS
Mon Jun 26 10:38:31 CDT 2006

2.59 as of last night. But 'fore ya'll get jellus, relative wages are on
par with relative gas prices.

"Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OvjByWTmGHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> 3.35
>
> "Jtyc" <yo@respondtothegroup.com> wrote in message
> news:OGf2DTTmGHA.2112@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Damn. I lucked out by paying $2.87 this morning.
>>
>> I hate you.
>>
>>
>> $3.11 locally.
>>
>
>
--
Mitch "yer such a Jameshole" S.
MCNGP XLVIII (Now do the other certs REALLY matter?)
Stupidity on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.

Jtyc
Mon Jun 26 10:31:07 CDT 2006

> Murrican

Isn't that a pickle?

kpg
Mon Jun 26 11:42:58 CDT 2006

As Neil once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse

>> It wasn't the 8' that impressed every one, it was
>> the 11".
>>
>>
>
> you'd have to buy a lot of shoes with 8 feet


That does not even deserve a reply.

Neil
Mon Jun 26 12:00:02 CDT 2006

did you hear JaR <jrderby@lakabux.com> say in
news:pan.2006.06.26.15.26.23.791896@lakabux.com:

> That's okay. I know it ticks you Canucks off when a Murrican is smarter
> than you.
>

mainly 'cause it happens so rarely

--
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- I give up, what is the meaning of life?

Consultant
Mon Jun 26 11:59:56 CDT 2006

unfortunately, my car will only take premium, damn germans

"MitchS" <firstinitlastname@nospam.gmail.com> wrote in message
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