"John R" info : upgrade path MCSE 2000 > 2003 : 290/91 instead of

Hi there,

As a modest Star Wars freak, I might open with the following phrase: "I
think I'm in a heap of Boontah pooh"...

That being said and on a more serious note : I've earned my MCSE 2000
certification a long while ago. As I never had the time nor the real "need"
to upgrade this to MCSE 2003, I never bothered to be honest. But now, a dream
opportunity arose which requires the certificate (I already passed the
technical interviews but they require that slip of paper).

As both 292 and 296 are almost cancelled (last date : 24th of May 2008) and
I don't have the time to do them this month, I read several posts by a user
with the handle "John R" who states that 290 and 291 count towards the 292...
And the 293 and 294 count towards the 296.

If that's indeed true, it will a great relief. But alas, I've phoned to
several test centra over here and they couldn't confirm... Even a call to
Microsoft or browsing their official learning/certifications tracks, doesn't
confirm this info.

So can anybody out there confirm this?

cheers and thanks!
/dimi

PAJ
Mon May 05 06:55:00 CDT 2008

On Mon, 5 May 2008 04:15:01 -0700, Dimi <Dimi@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:

>Hi there,
>
>As a modest Star Wars freak, I might open with the following phrase: "I
>think I'm in a heap of Boontah pooh"...
>
>That being said and on a more serious note : I've earned my MCSE 2000
>certification a long while ago. As I never had the time nor the real "need"
>to upgrade this to MCSE 2003, I never bothered to be honest. But now, a dream
>opportunity arose which requires the certificate (I already passed the
>technical interviews but they require that slip of paper).
>
>As both 292 and 296 are almost cancelled (last date : 24th of May 2008) and
>I don't have the time to do them this month, I read several posts by a user
>with the handle "John R" who states that 290 and 291 count towards the 292...
>And the 293 and 294 count towards the 296.
>
>If that's indeed true, it will a great relief. But alas, I've phoned to
>several test centra over here and they couldn't confirm... Even a call to
>Microsoft or browsing their official learning/certifications tracks, doesn't
>confirm this info.
>
>So can anybody out there confirm this?
>
>cheers and thanks!
>/dimi

The upgrade path by taking the two transition exams expires. End of.

70-290, 70-291, 70-293 & 70-294 are all core MCSE networking exams and
ALL are required.

If you earned your MCSE 2000 directly (not via upgrade from NT4) you
will not need to take any further exams.

http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcse/windows2003/default.mspx

Easiest way to check what you need would be to login and look at your
Certification Planner.

https://mcp.microsoft.com/mcp/tools/CertificationsInProgress.aspx

Dimi
Mon May 05 07:06:01 CDT 2008

"PAJ", thanks for the reply!

So, if I understood your reply correctly :
as I earned my MCSE NT4 directly and done the upgrade exams for 2000,
there's no way I can upgrade to 2003 anymore? Not even by taking
70-290+70-291 (instead of 292) and 70-293+70-294 (instead of 296) ?

/dimi

"PAJ" wrote:

> On Mon, 5 May 2008 04:15:01 -0700, Dimi <Dimi@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Hi there,
> >
> >As a modest Star Wars freak, I might open with the following phrase: "I
> >think I'm in a heap of Boontah pooh"...
> >
> >That being said and on a more serious note : I've earned my MCSE 2000
> >certification a long while ago. As I never had the time nor the real "need"
> >to upgrade this to MCSE 2003, I never bothered to be honest. But now, a dream
> >opportunity arose which requires the certificate (I already passed the
> >technical interviews but they require that slip of paper).
> >
> >As both 292 and 296 are almost cancelled (last date : 24th of May 2008) and
> >I don't have the time to do them this month, I read several posts by a user
> >with the handle "John R" who states that 290 and 291 count towards the 292...
> >And the 293 and 294 count towards the 296.
> >
> >If that's indeed true, it will a great relief. But alas, I've phoned to
> >several test centra over here and they couldn't confirm... Even a call to
> >Microsoft or browsing their official learning/certifications tracks, doesn't
> >confirm this info.
> >
> >So can anybody out there confirm this?
> >
> >cheers and thanks!
> >/dimi
>
> The upgrade path by taking the two transition exams expires. End of.
>
> 70-290, 70-291, 70-293 & 70-294 are all core MCSE networking exams and
> ALL are required.
>
> If you earned your MCSE 2000 directly (not via upgrade from NT4) you
> will not need to take any further exams.
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcse/windows2003/default.mspx
>
> Easiest way to check what you need would be to login and look at your
> Certification Planner.
>
> https://mcp.microsoft.com/mcp/tools/CertificationsInProgress.aspx
>

PAJ
Mon May 05 07:16:15 CDT 2008

On Mon, 5 May 2008 05:06:01 -0700, Dimi <Dimi@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:

>"PAJ", thanks for the reply!
>
>So, if I understood your reply correctly :
> as I earned my MCSE NT4 directly and done the upgrade exams for 2000,
>there's no way I can upgrade to 2003 anymore? Not even by taking
>70-290+70-291 (instead of 292) and 70-293+70-294 (instead of 296) ?
>

I am not sure on this.
I cannot find anything to say this method is not viable but...
Have you take OS exam 70-210 or newer?
What does your planner say?

Dimi
Mon May 05 07:39:01 CDT 2008

Not sure anymore if I took the 70-210, it's been a looooooong time ago
unfortunately (more than 6 years ago)...
Also, I've just tried to go to the website but I can't spot the planner :(

But no worries, I will try and do the 292 on the 19th... And if I succeed, I
will do the 296 on the Friday that follows... Keeping my fingers crossed :-)
(just done a quick 15 question test with Ucertify and I passed with 760 I
think... That's just with my current knowledge so I think that I will just
read the official Microsoft book this week [15 chapters with theory / should
be do-able] and buy the full Ucertify packages for both exams... Hoping that
will be enough...)

/dimi

"PAJ" wrote:

> On Mon, 5 May 2008 05:06:01 -0700, Dimi <Dimi@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> >"PAJ", thanks for the reply!
> >
> >So, if I understood your reply correctly :
> > as I earned my MCSE NT4 directly and done the upgrade exams for 2000,
> >there's no way I can upgrade to 2003 anymore? Not even by taking
> >70-290+70-291 (instead of 292) and 70-293+70-294 (instead of 296) ?
> >
>
> I am not sure on this.
> I cannot find anything to say this method is not viable but...
> Have you take OS exam 70-210 or newer?
> What does your planner say?
>

PAJ
Mon May 05 08:00:09 CDT 2008

On Mon, 5 May 2008 05:39:01 -0700, Dimi <Dimi@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:

>Also, I've just tried to go to the website but I can't spot the planner :(

You need to login to the MCP site:

https://mcp.microsoft.com/mcp/default.aspx

Then select:
View My... (from the menu)
and then:
Certification Planner (from the drop-down list).

I am sure someone will be along soon that can give you an absolute
answer.

John
Mon May 05 08:39:32 CDT 2008


"Dimi" <Dimi@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:076B1852-AAF0-48A7-889B-09FB8C771C9A@microsoft.com...
> "PAJ", thanks for the reply!
>
> So, if I understood your reply correctly :
> as I earned my MCSE NT4 directly and done the upgrade exams for 2000,
> there's no way I can upgrade to 2003 anymore? Not even by taking
> 70-290+70-291 (instead of 292) and 70-293+70-294 (instead of 296) ?
>

You can do this. Your certification planner will bare that out.

From the following link...
http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcse/windows2003/default.mspx

If you have an MCSE on Microsoft Windows 2000 Server credential, note the
following about your exam requirements:
. Networking: You have the option of taking only Exams 70-292 and
70-296 instead of all four core networking exams.

. Client: Since you have already passed Exam 70-210 or 70-270, the
client requirement for an MCSE on Windows Server 2003 certification has been
met-you do not have to take a client exam.

. Design: The design skills required of an MCSE on Windows Server 2003
do not differ significantly from those required of an MCSE on Microsoft
Windows 2000 Server. Thus, you do not have to take a design exam.

. Elective: Your current MCSE credential satisfies the elective
requirement for Windows Server 2003 because it proves your ability to
support another version of the platform. You do not have to take an elective
exam.



The only question is your client. If you did not take 70-210 or
70-270 (or now 70-620), you'll have to fulfill that as well.



John R

Kline
Mon May 05 09:14:40 CDT 2008

>Easiest way to check what you need would be to login and look at your
>Certification Planner.
>
>https://mcp.microsoft.com/mcp/tools/CertificationsInProgress.aspx

this thread really cracks me up, seriously, it does.

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

PAJ
Mon May 05 10:12:00 CDT 2008

On Mon, 05 May 2008 15:14:40 +0100, Kline Sphere <.> wrote:

>this thread really cracks me up

Cracked chalk. That's the name of my textured ceiling.

OTHMAN
Mon May 05 10:37:01 CDT 2008

"Dimi" wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> As a modest Star Wars freak, I might open with the following phrase: "I
> think I'm in a heap of Boontah pooh"...
>
> That being said and on a more serious note : I've earned my MCSE 2000
> certification a long while ago. As I never had the time nor the real "need"
> to upgrade this to MCSE 2003, I never bothered to be honest. But now, a dream
> opportunity arose which requires the certificate (I already passed the
> technical interviews but they require that slip of paper).
>
> As both 292 and 296 are almost cancelled (last date : 24th of May 2008) and
> I don't have the time to do them this month, I read several posts by a user
> with the handle "John R" who states that 290 and 291 count towards the 292...
> And the 293 and 294 count towards the 296.
>
> If that's indeed true, it will a great relief. But alas, I've phoned to
> several test centra over here and they couldn't confirm... Even a call to
> Microsoft or browsing their official learning/certifications tracks, doesn't
> confirm this info.
>
> So can anybody out there confirm this?
>
> cheers and thanks!
> /dimi

check this one out
http://forums.community.microsoft.com/en-US/thread/904ba514-96c9-4a07-9948-a72f6319d6c5/

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John
Mon May 05 21:24:41 CDT 2008


"OTHMAN" <OTHMAN@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C99CCBFC-2F22-4049-9787-34628650C401@microsoft.com...
> "Dimi" wrote:
>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> As a modest Star Wars freak, I might open with the following phrase: "I
>> think I'm in a heap of Boontah pooh"...
>>
>> That being said and on a more serious note : I've earned my MCSE 2000
>> certification a long while ago. As I never had the time nor the real
>> "need"
>> to upgrade this to MCSE 2003, I never bothered to be honest. But now, a
>> dream
>> opportunity arose which requires the certificate (I already passed the
>> technical interviews but they require that slip of paper).
>>
>> As both 292 and 296 are almost cancelled (last date : 24th of May 2008)
>> and
>> I don't have the time to do them this month, I read several posts by a
>> user
>> with the handle "John R" who states that 290 and 291 count towards the
>> 292...
>> And the 293 and 294 count towards the 296.
>>
>> If that's indeed true, it will a great relief. But alas, I've phoned to
>> several test centra over here and they couldn't confirm... Even a call to
>> Microsoft or browsing their official learning/certifications tracks,
>> doesn't
>> confirm this info.
>>
>> So can anybody out there confirm this?
>>
>> cheers and thanks!
>> /dimi
>
> check this one out:
> http://forums.community.microsoft.com/en-US/thread/904ba514-96c9-4a07-9948-a72f6319d6c5/
>
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> http://certguard.com/forums/
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> http://www.certguard.com/certsearch.asp
>

Vindication! Righteous!
:)

John R