Having been a Financial Advisor I know that industry information comes from
all sorts of places. Being somewhat new to the IT industry I would like to
get ideas on where everyone gets there industry information from. I use the
Microsoft website a lot, but I would like to know of any other favorite
websites, newsletters or magazines that you guys and gals also use.

Thanks

Re: Information sources by CBIC

CBIC
Tue Feb 26 15:14:12 CST 2008


"new2IT" <new2IT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:829AD7E9-B10F-4E39-8ACC-2D4A6A647DB3@microsoft.com...
> Having been a Financial Advisor I know that industry information comes
> from
> all sorts of places. Being somewhat new to the IT industry I would like
> to
> get ideas on where everyone gets there industry information from. I use
> the
> Microsoft website a lot, but I would like to know of any other favorite
> websites, newsletters or magazines that you guys and gals also use.
>
> Thanks

I read BOFH on theregister.com. There's a ton of good info there.



Re: Information sources by JaR

JaR
Tue Feb 26 18:01:21 CST 2008

On 2/26/2008,CBIC had the unmitigated gall to claim:

>
> "new2IT" <new2IT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:829AD7E9-B10F-4E39-8ACC-2D4A6A647DB3@microsoft.com...
> > Having been a Financial Advisor I know that industry information
> > comes from all sorts of places. Being somewhat new to the IT
> > industry I would like to get ideas on where everyone gets there
> > industry information from. I use the Microsoft website a lot, but
> > I would like to know of any other favorite websites, newsletters or
> > magazines that you guys and gals also use.
> >
> > Thanks
>
> I read BOFH on theregister.com. There's a ton of good info there.

Simon Rules.

Now if I could just figure out how to hack the elevator like he does....

--
JaR
Or the beancounter's boxen...
Remove hat to reply

Re: Information sources by Robert

Robert
Wed Feb 27 09:00:16 CST 2008

"new2IT" <new2IT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:829AD7E9-B10F-4E39-8ACC-2D4A6A647DB3@microsoft.com...
> Having been a Financial Advisor I know that industry information comes from
> all sorts of places. Being somewhat new to the IT industry I would like to
> get ideas on where everyone gets there industry information from. I use the
> Microsoft website a lot, but I would like to know of any other favorite
> websites, newsletters or magazines that you guys and gals also use.
>
> Thanks
>
That all really depends on the type of resources you're looking for. There are
really too many resources to list in one place. Since you're in a certification
newsgroup though, I'll presume you're looking for cert related info. Even with
the field narrowed down, there are still questions that need to be answered
before anyone can really point you in a direction that would help you. Are you
looking for study materials? Are you looking for info on a specific
certification? Do you want to know about a certain exam? Are you looking for
facts or opinions about any of those?

--
Robert Williams
http://www.CertGuard.com
http://www.NetworkWorld.com/community/integrity/


Re: Information sources by new2IT

new2IT
Wed Feb 27 12:27:01 CST 2008

I am looking for actuall industry information, not for study or course info.
The site that CBIC gave was very interesting and I thank you for giving
giving it to me. All I want to know is where people in the industry go to to
learn about new technology coming out or insider information concerning the
field. I understand that there are probably a lot of sites, I know that
there was plenty in my previous field as well but I could still narrow it
down to a handfull that I used all the time.

"Robert Williams [CertGuard]" wrote:

> "new2IT" <new2IT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:829AD7E9-B10F-4E39-8ACC-2D4A6A647DB3@microsoft.com...
> > Having been a Financial Advisor I know that industry information comes from
> > all sorts of places. Being somewhat new to the IT industry I would like to
> > get ideas on where everyone gets there industry information from. I use the
> > Microsoft website a lot, but I would like to know of any other favorite
> > websites, newsletters or magazines that you guys and gals also use.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> That all really depends on the type of resources you're looking for. There are
> really too many resources to list in one place. Since you're in a certification
> newsgroup though, I'll presume you're looking for cert related info. Even with
> the field narrowed down, there are still questions that need to be answered
> before anyone can really point you in a direction that would help you. Are you
> looking for study materials? Are you looking for info on a specific
> certification? Do you want to know about a certain exam? Are you looking for
> facts or opinions about any of those?
>
> --
> Robert Williams
> http://www.CertGuard.com
> http://www.NetworkWorld.com/community/integrity/
>

Re: Information sources by CBIC

CBIC
Wed Feb 27 12:51:50 CST 2008


"new2IT" <new2IT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:DA6D88B4-CE0D-4896-BFC8-0E90FBBAC4D1@microsoft.com...
>I am looking for actuall industry information, not for study or course
>info.


One word-google



Re: Information sources by PAJ

PAJ
Wed Feb 27 13:06:15 CST 2008

On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:27:01 -0800, new2IT
<new2IT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>I am looking for actuall industry information, not for study or course info.
>The site that CBIC gave was very interesting and I thank you for giving
>giving it to me.

The BOFH link? Have you got pimples? Position vacant.

Re: Information sources by new2IT

new2IT
Wed Feb 27 13:12:09 CST 2008

Thanks for the incite CBIC, now when I have some spare time I will narrow
down the 78,400,000 hits that I recieved from google.

"CBIC" wrote:

>
> "new2IT" <new2IT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:DA6D88B4-CE0D-4896-BFC8-0E90FBBAC4D1@microsoft.com...
> >I am looking for actuall industry information, not for study or course
> >info.
>
>
> One word-google
>
>
>

Re: Information sources by Bill

Bill
Wed Feb 27 13:23:06 CST 2008

"new2IT" <new2IT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8FCBFB9D-69A9-410B-84F2-B9FE4351D6E1@microsoft.com...
> Thanks for the incite CBIC, now when I have some spare time I will narrow
> down the 78,400,000 hits that I recieved from google.

Wow! You have l33t google skilz!!!!



Re: Information sources by PAJ

PAJ
Wed Feb 27 13:29:45 CST 2008

On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 09:25:00 -0800, new2IT
<new2IT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Having been a Financial Advisor I know that industry information comes from
>all sorts of places. Being somewhat new to the IT industry I would like to
>get ideas on where everyone gets there industry information from. I use the
>Microsoft website a lot, but I would like to know of any other favorite
>websites, newsletters or magazines that you guys and gals also use.
>

Sites I visit most often:

http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp
http://technet.microsoft.com
http://techrepublic.com.com
http://www.theregister.co.uk/
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/
http://www.news.com/
http://www.vnunet.com/
http://www.thetechzone.com/

All are links I got using Google many moons ago.

Re: Information sources by new2IT

new2IT
Wed Feb 27 13:31:00 CST 2008

I can see posting here is a total waste of time.

"PAJ" wrote:

> On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:27:01 -0800, new2IT
> <new2IT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >I am looking for actuall industry information, not for study or course info.
> >The site that CBIC gave was very interesting and I thank you for giving
> >giving it to me.
>
> The BOFH link? Have you got pimples? Position vacant.
>

Re: Information sources by CBIC

CBIC
Wed Feb 27 13:35:28 CST 2008


"new2IT" <new2IT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:CF48B3A7-6F6B-48F6-852D-64282872EFA1@microsoft.com...
>I can see posting here is a total waste of time.
>

That was fast. It usually takes a n00b alot longer to figure that out.



Re: Information sources by CBIC

CBIC
Wed Feb 27 13:36:01 CST 2008


"new2IT" <new2IT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8FCBFB9D-69A9-410B-84F2-B9FE4351D6E1@microsoft.com...
> Thanks for the incite CBIC, now when I have some spare time I will narrow
> down the 78,400,000 hits that I recieved from google.

Everyone needs a hobby. Glad I could help.



Re: Information sources by PAJ

PAJ
Wed Feb 27 14:00:15 CST 2008

On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 11:31:00 -0800, new2IT
<new2IT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>"PAJ" wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:27:01 -0800, new2IT
>> <new2IT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>> >I am looking for actuall industry information, not for study or course info.
>> >The site that CBIC gave was very interesting and I thank you for giving
>> >giving it to me.
>>
>> The BOFH link? Have you got pimples? Position vacant.
>>
>I can see posting here is a total waste of time.

PFY, rings no bells? Just being light hearted there. No need to get
bitter.
I have posted you some links. I use them daily and they provide me with
all the information I need.
If you are going to get on in your new profession you will need become
proficient in the use of search engines and learn to narrow down those
searches.

Re: Information sources by Robert

Robert
Wed Feb 27 14:22:31 CST 2008



"new2IT" <new2IT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:DA6D88B4-CE0D-4896-BFC8-0E90FBBAC4D1@microsoft.com...
> I am looking for actuall industry information, not for study or course info.
> The site that CBIC gave was very interesting and I thank you for giving
> giving it to me. All I want to know is where people in the industry go to to
> learn about new technology coming out or insider information concerning the
> field. I understand that there are probably a lot of sites, I know that
> there was plenty in my previous field as well but I could still narrow it
> down to a handfull that I used all the time.
>
For that sort of info you may want to seek out some of the online news
communities. Network World is one best. They have Microsoft, Cisco, and Careers
Subnets that are all geared towards different users and groups, and they also
have bloggers within each area that report on specific areas of each discipline.

http://www.networkworld.com
http://www.networkworld.com/careers/
http://www.networkworld.com/subnets/microsoft/
http://www.networkworld.com/subnets/cisco/

Good Luck!!

--
Robert Williams
http://www.CertGuard.com
http://www.NetworkWorld.com/community/integrity/


Re: Information sources by Michael

Michael
Wed Feb 27 15:11:02 CST 2008

"new2IT" <new2IT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:829AD7E9-B10F-4E39-8ACC-2D4A6A647DB3@microsoft.com:

> Having been a Financial Advisor I know that industry information comes from
> all sorts of places. Being somewhat new to the IT industry I would like to
> get ideas on where everyone gets there industry information from. I use the
> Microsoft website a lot, but I would like to know of any other favorite
> websites, newsletters or magazines that you guys and gals also use.
>
> Thanks

All joking aside, and there were a few good ones here (Fris and CBIC),
I.T. is a community. And by just being a part of it, information comes
in all direction -- solicited or not. We are read blogs, RSS feeds,
website, magazines, whitepapers, porn, etc.. We attend conferences,
listen to Steve talk about WS2k8, VS2k8, and SQL2k8 like I did this
morning, or webcasts from Vlad Mazak. It's just there.

--
Michael D. Alligood, MCITP, MCTS, MCSA, MCDST
The I.T. Classroom - http://www.theitclassroom.com/
CertGuard, Inc. - http://www.certguard.com/



Re: Information sources by new2IT

new2IT
Wed Feb 27 15:31:01 CST 2008

I just want to take a minute and go back to a sentence in my original post.

"I use the Microsoft website a lot, but I would like to know of any other
favorite
websites, newsletters or magazines that you guys and gals also use."

I was not asking for people to tell me to go out and use google or any other
search engine for that matter, I can do that on my own. And Bill I was being
facetious concerning the 78 million hits, I do know how to narrow that down
but I would still get a great deal of hits. All I was asking from the
"professionals" who post here was what are some of your favorite sites or
sources you get information from. I do want to thank Robert for his posts
you responded to my question seriously and did not try to belittle my
intelligence by saying "one word-google" ,"If you are going to get on in your
new profession you will need become
proficient in the use of search engines and learn to narrow down those
searches" or the best of them all "Wow! You have l33t google skilz!!!!".

So again thank you Robert for your respnonse and as far as for the rest of
you who claim to be professionals in the field I ask you one thing, look up
the word professional and check out the definition.


Re: Information sources by CBIC

CBIC
Wed Feb 27 15:39:31 CST 2008


"new2IT" <new2IT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D689E3DC-E020-477C-BB0E-C81DB5A91135@microsoft.com...

> So again thank you Robert for your respnonse and as far as for the rest of
> you who claim to be professionals in the field I ask you one thing, look
> up
> the word professional and check out the definition.
>

two words-lighten up



Re: Information sources by CBIC

CBIC
Wed Feb 27 15:41:52 CST 2008


"CBIC" <spam.thisbiotch@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23dFx9kYeIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> "new2IT" <new2IT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:D689E3DC-E020-477C-BB0E-C81DB5A91135@microsoft.com...
>
>> So again thank you Robert for your respnonse and as far as for the rest
>> of
>> you who claim to be professionals in the field I ask you one thing, look
>> up
>> the word professional and check out the definition.
>>
>
I would also like to add that I don't have time to look words up. I'm a
highly trained IT professional with a lot of work to do.



Re: Information sources by PAJ

PAJ
Wed Feb 27 16:09:16 CST 2008

On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 13:31:01 -0800, new2IT
<new2IT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>"Wow! You have l33t google skilz!!!!".

Thanks :)
You are not the first to pick up on this.

Re: Information sources by PAJ

PAJ
Wed Feb 27 16:15:38 CST 2008

On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 13:31:01 -0800, new2IT
<new2IT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>look up the word professional and check out the definition.

I just googled "professional" but got some 78,400,001 hits.
I will read them all today. Thanks ;)

Re: Information sources by kpg*

kpg*
Wed Feb 27 16:27:07 CST 2008

"CBIC" <spam.thisbiotch@gmail.com> wrote in
news:OV5tRmYeIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:

>
> "CBIC" <spam.thisbiotch@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23dFx9kYeIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "new2IT" <new2IT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:D689E3DC-E020-477C-BB0E-C81DB5A91135@microsoft.com...
>>
>>> So again thank you Robert for your respnonse and as far as for the
>>> rest of
>>> you who claim to be professionals in the field I ask you one thing,
>>> look up
>>> the word professional and check out the definition.
>>>
>>
> I would also like to add that I don't have time to look words up. I'm
> a highly trained IT professional with a lot of work to do.


That is in the top 10 for posting to this dead-end group...

Re: Information sources by CBIC

CBIC
Wed Feb 27 16:31:21 CST 2008


"kpg*" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9A51A75CFA7BCipostthereforeiam@207.46.248.16...

>> I would also like to add that I don't have time to look words up. I'm
>> a highly trained IT professional with a lot of work to do.
>
>
> That is in the top 10 for posting to this dead-end group...

I was hoping someone would see the irony in my statement.



Re: Information sources by LRM

LRM
Wed Feb 27 22:12:23 CST 2008

"new2IT" <new2IT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D689E3DC-E020-477C-BB0E-C81DB5A91135@microsoft.com...
>I just want to take a minute and go back to a sentence in my original post.
>
> "I use the Microsoft website a lot, but I would like to know of any other
> favorite
> websites, newsletters or magazines that you guys and gals also use."
>
> I was not asking for people to tell me to go out and use google or any
> other
> search engine for that matter, I can do that on my own. And Bill I was
> being
> facetious concerning the 78 million hits, I do know how to narrow that
> down
> but I would still get a great deal of hits. All I was asking from the
> "professionals" who post here was what are some of your favorite sites or
> sources you get information from. I do want to thank Robert for his posts
> you responded to my question seriously and did not try to belittle my
> intelligence by saying "one word-google" ,"If you are going to get on in
> your
> new profession you will need become
> proficient in the use of search engines and learn to narrow down those
> searches" or the best of them all "Wow! You have l33t google skilz!!!!".
>
> So again thank you Robert for your respnonse and as far as for the rest of
> you who claim to be professionals in the field I ask you one thing, look
> up
> the word professional and check out the definition.
>

The only thing I really hate about being an IT professional is that I
constantly run into people such as yourself who have no personality. Why is
that? I think all support calls should have a sense of lightness and not be
so dull. Why can't we laugh and be a little strange? We as a collective body
often find ourselves listening to the rants of complete fools who will
insist they have a clue, but need us to paste together their problem
descriptions so they can continue surfing Pron. Dude, look up fun, or google
some other word that might put a smile on your face. The way it is now, you
just piss me off like all the other clueless jerks. Or wait, go to thinkgeek
dot com and buy some fun. I think they have a newsletter.



Re: Information sources by CBIC

CBIC
Thu Feb 28 08:10:17 CST 2008


"LRM" <Fskspam@friedspam.com> wrote in message
news:e%2316gAceIHA.5348@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> The only thing I really hate about being an IT professional is that I
> constantly run into people such as yourself who have no personality. Why
> is that? I think all support calls should have a sense of lightness and
> not be so dull. Why can't we laugh and be a little strange? We as a
> collective body often find ourselves listening to the rants of complete
> fools who will insist they have a clue, but need us to paste together
> their problem descriptions so they can continue surfing Pron. Dude, look
> up fun, or google some other word that might put a smile on your face. The
> way it is now, you just piss me off like all the other clueless jerks. Or
> wait, go to thinkgeek dot com and buy some fun. I think they have a
> newsletter.
>

You know that I love you don't you?



Re: Information sources by Dustin

Dustin
Thu Feb 28 08:20:29 CST 2008

Yes! Finally! This is what I love about the IT community! :) People that
love to have fun. People that enjoy the field. The people that enjoy a good
bacon dispenser! :)

And depending on what your interests are, there are MANY different types of
sites.

Hardware:

http://www.hardocp.com (lots of fun and humor, don't forget your fun hat)
http://www.anandtech.com (not a favorite of mine, but it works)
http://www.neowin.net
http://www.betanews.com
http://www.nintendo.com
http://www.nickjr.com

And I recommend a good RSS news reader for when you use the links on these
sites and find a good one that updates frequently. Great source of
information, quick, easy, and very fun.

The number one thing in this field is to keep it fun. Don't take everything
so seriously. Professional is ok, but you have to lighten up sometimes. If
you're serious all the time, you'll find the job gets stagnant very fast.
You have to love what you are doing, and have fun doing it.

I get excited when a new technology comes out. I'm like a little kid in a
toy store. I love it.

And I know those sites aren't all really IT related sites. But, the news
comes from all over, and it will give you a good start. Hit those, and go
from there. At least you start with the fun stuff.

--
Dustin Harper
dharper@vistarip.com
http://www.VistaRIP.com | Vista Resource & Information Page


"LRM" <Fskspam@friedspam.com> wrote in message
news:e%2316gAceIHA.5348@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> "new2IT" <new2IT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:D689E3DC-E020-477C-BB0E-C81DB5A91135@microsoft.com...
>>I just want to take a minute and go back to a sentence in my original
>>post.
>>
>> "I use the Microsoft website a lot, but I would like to know of any other
>> favorite
>> websites, newsletters or magazines that you guys and gals also use."
>>
>> I was not asking for people to tell me to go out and use google or any
>> other
>> search engine for that matter, I can do that on my own. And Bill I was
>> being
>> facetious concerning the 78 million hits, I do know how to narrow that
>> down
>> but I would still get a great deal of hits. All I was asking from the
>> "professionals" who post here was what are some of your favorite sites or
>> sources you get information from. I do want to thank Robert for his
>> posts
>> you responded to my question seriously and did not try to belittle my
>> intelligence by saying "one word-google" ,"If you are going to get on in
>> your
>> new profession you will need become
>> proficient in the use of search engines and learn to narrow down those
>> searches" or the best of them all "Wow! You have l33t google skilz!!!!".
>>
>> So again thank you Robert for your respnonse and as far as for the rest
>> of
>> you who claim to be professionals in the field I ask you one thing, look
>> up
>> the word professional and check out the definition.
>>
>
> The only thing I really hate about being an IT professional is that I
> constantly run into people such as yourself who have no personality. Why
> is that? I think all support calls should have a sense of lightness and
> not be so dull. Why can't we laugh and be a little strange? We as a
> collective body often find ourselves listening to the rants of complete
> fools who will insist they have a clue, but need us to paste together
> their problem descriptions so they can continue surfing Pron. Dude, look
> up fun, or google some other word that might put a smile on your face. The
> way it is now, you just piss me off like all the other clueless jerks. Or
> wait, go to thinkgeek dot com and buy some fun. I think they have a
> newsletter.
>


Re: Information sources by Neil

Neil
Thu Feb 28 11:26:58 CST 2008

did you hear "CBIC" <spam.thisbiotch@gmail.com> say in
news:upKJmOheIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl:

> You know that I love you don't you?

who doesn't?

--
The InterNeil "V2 w/tabbed browsing & decreased verbosity" MCNGP Triple X

- "My guitar is broken," Tom fretted.

Re: Information sources by Bill

Bill
Thu Feb 28 11:31:06 CST 2008

"new2IT" <new2IT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D689E3DC-E020-477C-BB0E-C81DB5A91135@microsoft.com...
>I just want to take a minute and go back to a sentence in my original post.
>
> "I use the Microsoft website a lot, but I would like to know of any other
> favorite
> websites, newsletters or magazines that you guys and gals also use."
>
> I was not asking for people to tell me to go out and use google or any
> other
> search engine for that matter, I can do that on my own. And Bill I was
> being
> facetious concerning the 78 million hits, I do know how to narrow that
> down
> but I would still get a great deal of hits. All I was asking from the
> "professionals" who post here was what are some of your favorite sites or
> sources you get information from. I do want to thank Robert for his posts
> you responded to my question seriously and did not try to belittle my
> intelligence by saying "one word-google" ,"If you are going to get on in
> your
> new profession you will need become
> proficient in the use of search engines and learn to narrow down those
> searches" or the best of them all "Wow! You have l33t google skilz!!!!".
>
> So again thank you Robert for your respnonse and as far as for the rest of
> you who claim to be professionals in the field I ask you one thing, look
> up
> the word professional and check out the definition.

I don't wanna play with you no more.



Re: Information sources by Bill

Bill
Thu Feb 28 11:30:26 CST 2008

"PAJ" <MBLOSSOMpaj-news@news-only.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3rnbs3dur8kq7kk3evj9rvacmf7b10cstf@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 13:31:01 -0800, new2IT
> <new2IT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>>"Wow! You have l33t google skilz!!!!".
>
> Thanks :)
> You are not the first to pick up on this.

I'm not sure whether I should be flattered or insulted.



Re: Information sources by PAJ

PAJ
Thu Feb 28 11:42:28 CST 2008

On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 12:30:26 -0500, "Bill Hileman"
<discgolfdad@gEEmail.com> wrote:

>"PAJ" <MBLOSSOMpaj-news@news-only.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:3rnbs3dur8kq7kk3evj9rvacmf7b10cstf@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 13:31:01 -0800, new2IT
>> <new2IT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"Wow! You have l33t google skilz!!!!".
>>
>> Thanks :)
>> You are not the first to pick up on this.
>
>I'm not sure whether I should be flattered or insulted.
>
Flattered of course

Re: Information sources by LRM

LRM
Thu Feb 28 12:44:29 CST 2008

"Dustin Harper" <dharper@vistarip.com> wrote in message
news:E4BFBEA2-58D5-4005-8D4A-A797CEA7E472@microsoft.com...
> Yes! Finally! This is what I love about the IT community! :) People that
> love to have fun. People that enjoy the field. The people that enjoy a
> good bacon dispenser! :)
>
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I want a bacon dispenser!! Darn, what have I missed while away? Can you get
them in cartoon characters like PEZ? I must have one soon! Perhaps to match
the riding crop I acquired to abuse the Interneil with...oooops sorry, I
forgot I wasn't supposed to play like that. Well no matter I can save it for
someone else who wants to play....