This should make us American high tech workers happy!

http://sify.com/news/international/fullstory.php?id=13293386

happy happy joy joy
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Re: High-tech jobs by billyw

billyw
Tue Oct 28 10:06:58 CST 2003

looks like your politicians take rupees..
your tax dollar at work

"Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> This should make us American high tech workers happy!
>
> http://sify.com/news/international/fullstory.php?id=13293386
>
> happy happy joy joy
> --
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> www.mcngp.tk
>
>



Re: High-tech jobs by NEW

NEW
Tue Oct 28 10:52:51 CST 2003

time for plan B: Mr. Mom?

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> This should make us American high tech workers happy!
>
> http://sify.com/news/international/fullstory.php?id=13293386
>
> happy happy joy joy
> --
> Consultant, MCNGP Founding Father
> www.mcngp.tk
>
>



Re: High-tech jobs by Grog

Grog
Tue Oct 28 13:12:25 CST 2003

Orin Hatch = Republican... it figures. When is the American electorate
going to learn that the Republican Party doesn't give a flying flip about
anyone that has to get up and go to work everyday? The CEO is their
concern, not Joe Working Slob.

Grog


"Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> This should make us American high tech workers happy!
>
> http://sify.com/news/international/fullstory.php?id=13293386
>
> happy happy joy joy
> --
> Consultant, MCNGP Founding Father
> www.mcngp.tk
>
>



Re: High-tech jobs by Rick

Rick
Tue Oct 28 13:52:02 CST 2003

Neither party is above reproach on this one. While Clinton was in office the
H1B visa limit was raised to 195,000 remember this is when the democrats
controlled the house and senate.

Rick



Re: High-tech jobs by Consultant

Consultant
Tue Oct 28 14:09:07 CST 2003

campaign contributions is the bottom line.
increase profitability for the US company, larger campaign contributions and
perks. nuff said.

"Rick" <rick@na.com> wrote in message
news:u2VHgyYnDHA.3024@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Neither party is above reproach on this one. While Clinton was in office
the
> H1B visa limit was raised to 195,000 remember this is when the democrats
> controlled the house and senate.
>
> Rick
>
>



Re: High-tech jobs by billyw

billyw
Tue Oct 28 14:11:31 CST 2003

but your politico's aren't corrupt.. oh no... just rich


"Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uZn0U8YnDHA.2244@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> campaign contributions is the bottom line.
> increase profitability for the US company, larger campaign contributions
and
> perks. nuff said.
>
> "Rick" <rick@na.com> wrote in message
> news:u2VHgyYnDHA.3024@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Neither party is above reproach on this one. While Clinton was in office
> the
> > H1B visa limit was raised to 195,000 remember this is when the democrats
> > controlled the house and senate.
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >
>
>



Re: High-tech jobs by Consultant

Consultant
Tue Oct 28 14:15:04 CST 2003

right

"billyw" <b@brainless.net> wrote in message
news:OHtwp#YnDHA.1096@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> but your politico's aren't corrupt.. oh no... just rich
>
>
> "Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:uZn0U8YnDHA.2244@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > campaign contributions is the bottom line.
> > increase profitability for the US company, larger campaign contributions
> and
> > perks. nuff said.
> >
> > "Rick" <rick@na.com> wrote in message
> > news:u2VHgyYnDHA.3024@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > Neither party is above reproach on this one. While Clinton was in
office
> > the
> > > H1B visa limit was raised to 195,000 remember this is when the
democrats
> > > controlled the house and senate.
> > >
> > > Rick
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>



Re: High-tech jobs by Jtyc

Jtyc
Tue Oct 28 14:27:34 CST 2003

> but your politico's aren't corrupt..

You're loco esé.



Re: High-tech jobs by billyw

billyw
Tue Oct 28 15:55:10 CST 2003

it was irony..

oh sorry you guys left that somewhere in the mid atlantic

"Jtyc" <yo@respondtothegroup.com> wrote in message
news:uvL5oGZnDHA.2304@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > but your politico's aren't corrupt..
>
> You're loco esé.
>
>



Re: High-tech jobs by Jtyc

Jtyc
Tue Oct 28 16:35:02 CST 2003

> it was irony..
>
> oh sorry you guys left that somewhere in the mid atlantic

Oh. I thought you were just being facetious.




Re: High-tech jobs by billyw

billyw
Tue Oct 28 17:01:34 CST 2003

huh .. you want fries with your facet??

"Jtyc" <yo@respondtothegroup.com> wrote in message
news:eHmR3NanDHA.3688@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > it was irony..
> >
> > oh sorry you guys left that somewhere in the mid atlantic
>
> Oh. I thought you were just being facetious.
>
>
>



Re: High-tech jobs : Threat to Internal Security by MikeF

MikeF
Tue Oct 28 22:05:27 CST 2003

why make waste a click - story is below.

Here's the headline I'd like this under:

HOMELAND SECURITY: IS ORRIN HATCH A PATRIOT OR TRAITOR?

and a subhead, in case Carnivore is still prowling around:

INTERNAL TERRORIST SECURITY THREAT

heeere's the story:

US likely to raise H-1B visa cap


Monday, 27 October , 2003, 21:36

Washington: Proposals to allow more high-technology foreign workers
into the US are gaining ground in Congress despite assertions by
labour and anti-immigrant lobbies that plenty of Americans are
available to fill the jobs.
Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Republican Senator Orin Hatch is
pushing a plan to circumvent the 65,000 cap on H-1B temporary worker
visas, under which large numbers of Indian and other foreign high-tech
workers are employed in the US, by expanding exemptions, The Wall
Street Journal reported on Monday quoting Senate aides familiar with
the talks.

The talks mark for the first time that influential Senators are
pressing for a temporary increase in the limit. While it is unclear if
the move would succeed, Hatch's effort paves the way for a full airing
of visa-overhaul legislation that has already been introduced and will
likely be considered after January, the paper said.
The last-minute effort to modify the visa rules as the Congressional
session winds down has been prompted by a growing concern among US
multinationals and high-tech companies that the current cap will
prevent thousands of expert foreign workers (needed by US business and
industry) from entering the US next year.
In addition, said the Journal, immigration lawyers, officials and
technology trade groups from India, and major US tech companies are
pushing to raise the annual visa limit to more than 100,000. Any rule
changes likely would be attached to a "must pass" Appropriation Bill.
"We will continue to work with our colleagues to try and find any
appropriate legislative action. But we haven't announced anything yet"
a spokeswoman for Hatch said.

She said any plan would include some added protection for US workers,
including reinstating a $1,000 fee for each visa that would be used to
pay for retraining American workers -- a strategy aimed at gaining
Democratic agreement.

So far, an idea being pressed by Intel Corp, the giant computer
chip-maker, is getting the most attention. Intel's plan recommends
exempting foreign students with graduate technical degrees from the
visa cap.

end quote-

I've sort of stopped buying AMD - think this is a good reason to go
back to them. They are faster, and their chipsets do manage memory a
bit better - for you basic, mildly hi-performance desktop.

"Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ODBXSqWnDHA.976@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> This should make us American high tech workers happy!
>
> http://sify.com/news/international/fullstory.php?id=13293386
>
> happy happy joy joy
> --
> Consultant, MCNGP Founding Father
> www.mcngp.tk
>
>



Re: High-tech jobs by Jtyc

Jtyc
Wed Oct 29 09:04:14 CST 2003

> huh .. you want fries with your facet??

I don't have a facet. My ring is pure platinum.




Re: High-tech jobs : Threat to Internal Security by Consultant

Consultant
Wed Oct 29 09:08:45 CST 2003

lol, nice

"MikeF" <wallacestevens54@removethisfirstyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uNAXAHdnDHA.3304@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> why make waste a click - story is below.
>
> Here's the headline I'd like this under:
>
> HOMELAND SECURITY: IS ORRIN HATCH A PATRIOT OR TRAITOR?
>
> and a subhead, in case Carnivore is still prowling around:
>
> INTERNAL TERRORIST SECURITY THREAT
>
> heeere's the story:
>
> US likely to raise H-1B visa cap
>
>
> Monday, 27 October , 2003, 21:36
>
> Washington: Proposals to allow more high-technology foreign workers
> into the US are gaining ground in Congress despite assertions by
> labour and anti-immigrant lobbies that plenty of Americans are
> available to fill the jobs.
> Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Republican Senator Orin Hatch is
> pushing a plan to circumvent the 65,000 cap on H-1B temporary worker
> visas, under which large numbers of Indian and other foreign high-tech
> workers are employed in the US, by expanding exemptions, The Wall
> Street Journal reported on Monday quoting Senate aides familiar with
> the talks.
>
> The talks mark for the first time that influential Senators are
> pressing for a temporary increase in the limit. While it is unclear if
> the move would succeed, Hatch's effort paves the way for a full airing
> of visa-overhaul legislation that has already been introduced and will
> likely be considered after January, the paper said.
> The last-minute effort to modify the visa rules as the Congressional
> session winds down has been prompted by a growing concern among US
> multinationals and high-tech companies that the current cap will
> prevent thousands of expert foreign workers (needed by US business and
> industry) from entering the US next year.
> In addition, said the Journal, immigration lawyers, officials and
> technology trade groups from India, and major US tech companies are
> pushing to raise the annual visa limit to more than 100,000. Any rule
> changes likely would be attached to a "must pass" Appropriation Bill.
> "We will continue to work with our colleagues to try and find any
> appropriate legislative action. But we haven't announced anything yet"
> a spokeswoman for Hatch said.
>
> She said any plan would include some added protection for US workers,
> including reinstating a $1,000 fee for each visa that would be used to
> pay for retraining American workers -- a strategy aimed at gaining
> Democratic agreement.
>
> So far, an idea being pressed by Intel Corp, the giant computer
> chip-maker, is getting the most attention. Intel's plan recommends
> exempting foreign students with graduate technical degrees from the
> visa cap.
>
> end quote-
>
> I've sort of stopped buying AMD - think this is a good reason to go
> back to them. They are faster, and their chipsets do manage memory a
> bit better - for you basic, mildly hi-performance desktop.
>
> "Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:ODBXSqWnDHA.976@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > This should make us American high tech workers happy!
> >
> > http://sify.com/news/international/fullstory.php?id=13293386
> >
> > happy happy joy joy
> > --
> > Consultant, MCNGP Founding Father
> > www.mcngp.tk
> >
> >
>
>



Re: High-tech jobs by anonymous

anonymous
Wed Oct 29 17:57:27 CST 2003

The all to often bitter sentiments of someone who can't
make it on their own and think the Governmant owes them
something.

>-----Original Message-----
>Orin Hatch = Republican... it figures. When is the
American electorate
>going to learn that the Republican Party doesn't give a
flying flip about
>anyone that has to get up and go to work everyday? The
CEO is their
>concern, not Joe Working Slob.
>
>Grog
>
>
>"Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:ODBXSqWnDHA.976@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> This should make us American high tech workers happy!
>>
>> http://sify.com/news/international/fullstory.php?
id=13293386
>>
>> happy happy joy joy
>> --
>> Consultant, MCNGP Founding Father
>> www.mcngp.tk
>>
>>
>
>
>.
>

Re: High-tech jobs by billyw

billyw
Thu Oct 30 11:11:36 CST 2003

so you belive there should be no tariffs etc, total free trade and the
market will ensure that everything will be ok?

<anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:069001c39e78$683dca90$a101280a@phx.gbl...
> The all to often bitter sentiments of someone who can't
> make it on their own and think the Governmant owes them
> something.
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Orin Hatch = Republican... it figures. When is the
> American electorate
> >going to learn that the Republican Party doesn't give a
> flying flip about
> >anyone that has to get up and go to work everyday? The
> CEO is their
> >concern, not Joe Working Slob.
> >
> >Grog
> >
> >
> >"Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:ODBXSqWnDHA.976@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >> This should make us American high tech workers happy!
> >>
> >> http://sify.com/news/international/fullstory.php?
> id=13293386
> >>
> >> happy happy joy joy
> >> --
> >> Consultant, MCNGP Founding Father
> >> www.mcngp.tk
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >.
> >



Re: High-tech jobs by Jtyc

Jtyc
Thu Oct 30 11:19:53 CST 2003

> so you belive there should be no tariffs etc, total free trade and the
> market will ensure that everything will be ok?

Why should there be tariffs?



Re: High-tech jobs by Grog

Grog
Thu Oct 30 11:32:55 CST 2003

Wrong, anonymous moron... I'm fully employed and lovin' it. What I do think
the government owes us all is to NOT encourage imported labor when
unemployment is at a 25 year high. Interestingly, the last time we had
sky-high unemployment and back breaking deficits there was another
Republican was in the Whitehouse (Reagan). Coincidence? Yeah right...

You can go back to listening to Rush Dimbulb now... no wait... he's still in
drug rehab... or is he now "upthe river"?

<anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:069001c39e78$683dca90$a101280a@phx.gbl...
> The all to often bitter sentiments of someone who can't
> make it on their own and think the Governmant owes them
> something.
>
>



Re: High-tech jobs by Jtyc

Jtyc
Thu Oct 30 11:53:29 CST 2003

> unemployment is at a 25 year high. Interestingly, the last time we had
> sky-high unemployment and back breaking deficits there was another
> Republican was in the Whitehouse (Reagan). Coincidence? Yeah right...
>
> You can go back to listening to Rush Dimbulb now... no wait... he's still
in
> drug rehab... or is he now "upthe river"?

I don't think you understand economics.

US Unemployment Rate

1980 7.1%
1981 7.6%

1982 9.7%

1983 9.6%

1984 7.5%

1985 7.2%

1986 7.0%

1987 6.2%

1988 5.5%

1989 5.3%

1990 5.6%

1991 6.8%

1992 7.5%

1993 6.9%

1994 6.1%

1995 5.6%

1996 5.4%

1997 4.9%

1998 4.5%

1999 4.2%

2000 4.0%

2001 4.7%

2002 5.8%



Re: High-tech jobs by billyw

billyw
Thu Oct 30 13:31:44 CST 2003

dunno.. but your pres keeps imposing them...
and he be a replicant

"Jtyc" <yo@respondtothegroup.com> wrote in message
news:uPkJFnwnDHA.424@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > so you belive there should be no tariffs etc, total free trade and the
> > market will ensure that everything will be ok?
>
> Why should there be tariffs?
>
>



Re: High-tech jobs by S

S
Thu Oct 30 13:55:38 CST 2003

"Jtyc" <yo@respondtothegroup.com> wrote in message
news:e2Em25wnDHA.2676@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > unemployment is at a 25 year high. Interestingly, the last time we had
> > sky-high unemployment and back breaking deficits there was another
> > Republican was in the Whitehouse (Reagan). Coincidence? Yeah right...
> >
> > You can go back to listening to Rush Dimbulb now... no wait... he's
still
> in
> > drug rehab... or is he now "upthe river"?
>
> I don't think you understand economics.
>
> US Unemployment Rate
>
> 1980 7.1%
> 1981 7.6%
>
> 1982 9.7%
>
> 1983 9.6%
>
> 1984 7.5%
>
> 1985 7.2%
>
> 1986 7.0%
>
> 1987 6.2%
>
> 1988 5.5%
>
> 1989 5.3%
>
> 1990 5.6%
>
> 1991 6.8%
>
> 1992 7.5%
>
> 1993 6.9%
>
> 1994 6.1%
>
> 1995 5.6%
>
> 1996 5.4%
>
> 1997 4.9%
>
> 1998 4.5%
>
> 1999 4.2%
>
> 2000 4.0%
>
> 2001 4.7%
>
> 2002 5.8%
>
>

trade ya... in canada...

1991 10.4
1992 11.3
1993 11.2
1994 10.2
1995 9.5
1996 9.7
1997 9.1
1998 8.4
1999 7.7
2000 6.8
2001 7.1
2002 7.7
and so far for 2003 8%

Sue



Re: High-tech jobs by Jtyc

Jtyc
Thu Oct 30 14:00:55 CST 2003

> dunno.. but your pres keeps imposing them...

Another reason I'm not a big fan.



Re: High-tech jobs by Jtyc

Jtyc
Thu Oct 30 14:02:57 CST 2003

> trade ya... in canada...
> so far for 2003 8%

That's what you get for being communists.



bloody Canadians...





Re: High-tech jobs by Consultant

Consultant
Thu Oct 30 14:13:44 CST 2003

indeed

"Jtyc" <yo@respondtothegroup.com> wrote in message
news:%23LnhMCynDHA.2964@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > trade ya... in canada...
> > so far for 2003 8%
>
> That's what you get for being communists.
>
>
>
> bloody Canadians...
>
>
>
>



Re: High-tech jobs by S

S
Thu Oct 30 14:21:51 CST 2003

"Jtyc" <yo@respondtothegroup.com> wrote in message
news:%23LnhMCynDHA.2964@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > trade ya... in canada...
> > so far for 2003 8%
>
> That's what you get for being communists.
>
>
>
> bloody Canadians...
>
>

hell we just voted out the old government last week... overthrown for the
first time in 15 years... 34 Seats awarded to winner with old government
having to step down to opposition with only 12 seats... HA!!

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>
>



Re: High-tech jobs by Jtyc

Jtyc
Fri Oct 31 08:43:07 CST 2003

> hell we just voted out the old government last week... overthrown for the
> first time in 15 years... 34 Seats awarded to winner with old government
> having to step down to opposition with only 12 seats... HA!!

So you threw out the old hard liner communists and replaced them with...
what?


People who believe in personal responsibility I hope...