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    - Re: RE:MCSE Exam Simulations wgates@dell.com wrote: > Been looking lately at some products like Testking, Actualtests, > Certificationking and found so many questions duplicated by each > company. Obviously its pointless buying the same exam sets eg 70 270 > from all three. > Do they get their questions from MS? > Do MS sell their past questions to Joe Public? > How often is a set of questions at a given test centre "recycled"? > Surely not all the questions over several years can be unique? > Most important of course can anyone recommend the most cost effective > way to get sample exams with explanations for the answers? > Many thanks, > WG I'm sorry but you're only allowed a maximum of three questions per post. Stay away from dumps like tk and the other crap. It's cheating plain and simple. -- aka Doom MCNGP #38 Is that a burdizzo in your pocket or are you just glad to see me. Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178799
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    - Re: OT: Too many posts TechGeekPro <%username%@gmail.com> rambled: > > On Nov 18, 2005 at 9:05am "Briscobar" blathered: > >> "dent in the back log" is not a phrase I'm comfortable with when >> referring to TGP. > > Watch out for your cornhole, bud. Minimum security prison is no picnic. -- KB MCNGP #26 nerd32768 looks up porn on the internet all day. Then he visits www.mcngp.com. Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178798
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    - Re: OT: Too many posts On Nov 18, 2005 at 9:06am "Briscobar" blathered: > How come not my welcome? YOU TRY TO CONFUSE -- TGP MCNGP #100100 http://www.techgeekpro.com Eight out of every five people are math illiterates. Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178797
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    - Re: OT: Too many posts MitchS <networkyoda@nospam.gmail.com> said something like > # Name resolution details: file://c:\temp\178205.htm (11/18/2005 > 3:29:53 PM) # "JaR" <jrderby@lakabux.com> wrote in message > news:Xns971280B02DD41Misanthrope@207.46.248.16... > >> "floccinaucinihilipilification" > > Is that in the official Scrabble dictionary? I dobn't think that word would fit on a scrabble board. Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178796
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    - Re: RE:MCSE Exam Simulations <wgates@dell.com> wrote in message news:lhhsn1pj7sd3up2plud7tlg1earc12m1lg@4ax.com... > Been looking lately at some products like Testking, Actualtests, > Certificationking and found so many questions duplicated by each > company. Obviously its pointless buying the same exam sets eg 70 270 > from all three. > Do they get their questions from MS? It's turtles all the way down. > Do MS sell their past questions to Joe Public? It's turtles all the way down. > How often is a set of questions at a given test centre "recycled"? It's turtles all the way down. > Surely not all the questions over several years can be unique? It's turtles all the way down. > Most important of course can anyone recommend the most cost effective > way to get sample exams with explanations for the answers? It's turtles all the way down. > Many thanks, Many turtles all the way down. > WG I'm a turtle. Are you a turtle? Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178795
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    - Re: Friday sweetness On Nov 18, 2005 at 12:28pm "Consultant" blathered: > you need to come on to messenger more often Speaking of messenger, I have updates on the "super sekrit" forum. -- TGP MCNGP #100100 http://www.techgeekpro.com The technician will have never seen a model quite like yours before. Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178794
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    - Re: Sorry to have bother you all "Ed" <#> wrote in message news:11nsif45j73mee0@corp.supernews.com... >I came to this newsgroup believing it to be related Microsoft >certification, opps my bad! I guess MCSE must mean something else to you >under 5's out there, so I'm sorry to have troubled you. Anyway you all take >care now and remember to brush your teeth before you go to bed at 8pm >tonight! I get to go to bed at 8PM tonight?! Did you clear this with my wife? I hope so because boy, I'm tired. Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178793
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    - Re: [OT] Friday sweetness LRM <someone@somewhere.com> said something like > # Name resolution details: file://c:\temp\178215.htm (11/18/2005 > 3:44:01 PM) # > > "Frisbee®" <billLASTNAME@yahoo.com> informed in message > news:u%23NgWqF7FHA.1944@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... >>> >>> >>> Hey, I don't mind working under women. >>> >>> In fact, I kinda perfer it. >> >> If you think that's work, you're not doing it right. >> >> > Not to mention fouling up what could be the most mind bending > experinence of your life. Sometimes control must be relinquished. OK. I'll relinquish control... BUT NO HOT WAX! Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178792
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    - Re: OT: Friday sweetness On Nov 18, 2005 at 10:09am "Briscobar" blathered: > I was just offered the Network Admin gig. Basically, our Network Admin > (who also performs other functions, like writing custom programs and > stuff...I won't be taking that over), who's only here 3 days a week is > costing them what it would cost me to do it 5 days a week. So, they're > going to send me back to school for MS training. Some of which I already > have, some of which I don't. But for the last couple years, I've been > shadowing our Network Admin, learning as I go, so I've got SOME > experience. And it's not like he's going to disappear, so I'll still be > able to lean on him for advice and help when I need it. And the good > news is my boss won't be my boss anymore. It's definitely a promotion in > every sense of the word. Congratulations. Ironically, my Sig was randomly generated. Coincidence? -- TGP MCNGP #100100 http://www.techgeekpro.com Multi-million dollar technology is worthless in the hands of morons. Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178791
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    - Re: [OT] Friday sweetness On Nov 18, 2005 at 4:08pm "LRM" blathered: > Not to mention fouling up what could be the most mind bending > experinence of your life. Sometimes control must be relinquished. Oh sweet Jesus... -- TGP MCNGP #100100 http://www.techgeekpro.com When you finally update to a new technology, is when everyone stops supporting it. Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178790
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    - Re: Sorry to have bother you all Ed <#> said something like > # Name resolution details: file://c:\temp\178231.htm (11/18/2005 > 3:46:09 PM) # I came to this newsgroup believing it to be related > Microsoft certification, opps my bad! I guess MCSE must mean something > else to you under 5's out there, so I'm sorry to have troubled you. > Anyway you all take care now and remember to brush your teeth before > you go to bed at 8pm tonight! OK. Nite-nite. Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178789
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    - Re: An Open Letter To Microsoft Corp On Nov 18, 2005 at 10:27am "Bill McPherson" blathered: > True. from now on, I'm telling n00bs that Novell is the way to go. It is, isn't it? -- TGP MCNGP #100100 http://www.techgeekpro.com Go and boil your bottoms, you sons of silly persons! Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178788
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    - Re: [OT] Friday sweetness "TechGeekPro" <%username%@gmail.com> wrote in message news:Xns9712A953D219Dtgp@127.0.0.1... > On Nov 18, 2005 at 4:08pm "LRM" blathered: > >> Not to mention fouling up what could be the most mind bending >> experinence of your life. Sometimes control must be relinquished. > > Oh sweet Jesus... I think we might have to break tradition. I shall have to induct Ms. LRM into the brotherhood in person. Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178787
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    - Re: OT: Too many posts TechGeekPro <%username%@gmail.com> said something like > # Name resolution details: file://c:\temp\178244.htm (11/18/2005 > 3:58:32 PM) # On Nov 18, 2005 at 11:41am "kpg" blathered: > >> needs to read Moby Dick > > I'm still waiting for the movie to come out. It already did. The book is better. Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178786
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    - Re: Leasing Time Issue I'm really impressed how people wast their time here replying useless information and helpless.... What a joke. "TechGeekPro" wrote: > On Nov 18, 2005 at 12:36pm "fmsmcse" blathered: > > > f*** > > the DHCP server. > > Only if it buys me dinner first. > > -- > TGP MCNGP #100100 > http://www.techgeekpro.com > If an experiment works, something has gone wrong. > Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178785
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    - Re: An Open Letter To Microsoft Corp On Nov 18, 2005 at 8:43am "Tim Dale" blathered: > we need as many MCP's > as we can get in order to stay ahead of our competitors Yeah, 'cause Lord knows we ain't got enough of those. -- TGP MCNGP #100100 http://www.techgeekpro.com I Love Jesus, it's his fan club I can't stand. Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178784
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    - Re: OT: Friday Frivolity On Nov 18, 2005 at 4:27pm "Frisbee®" blathered: > So things have taken another turn for the worse? Apparently so. -- TGP MCNGP #100100 http://www.techgeekpro.com Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong. Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178783
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    - Re: OT: Too many posts On Nov 18, 2005 at 11:13am "JaR" blathered: > I am considering "curmudgeon", "polyphase", and "anaphylactic", but I will > entertain suggestions. How about "Superfluous". -- TGP MCNGP #100100 http://www.techgeekpro.com Never underestimate the power of human stupidity. Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178782
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    - Re: Leasing Time Issue On Nov 18, 2005 at 4:41pm "fmsmcse" blathered: > What a joke. Thank you. -- TGP MCNGP #100100 http://www.techgeekpro.com Spammers, please add "nospam" to address. Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178781
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    - Re: [OT] Friday sweetness LRM <someone@somewhere.com> rambled: >> >> If you think that's work, you're not doing it right. >> >> > Not to mention fouling up what could be the most mind bending > experinence of your life. Sometimes control must be relinquished. You're a feisty one. Daddy like. -- KB MCNGP #26 Why don't you make like a tree and go to www.mcngp.com!? Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178780
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    - Re: RE:MCSE Exam Simulations Would this be a good target for some certain someone? -- Mitch "yer such a Jameshole" S. MCNGP XLVIII (Now do the other certs REALLY matter?) "Place your bet - Ah say - place your bets, gentlemen. Winnner plays, loser stays. Everyone's a winne - well, not everyone." - F. Leghorn <wgates@dell.com> wrote in message news:lhhsn1pj7sd3up2plud7tlg1earc12m1lg@4ax.com... > Been looking lately at some products like Testking, Actualtests, > Certificationking and found so many questions duplicated by each > company. Obviously its pointless buying the same exam sets eg 70 270 > from all three. > Do they get their questions from MS? > Do MS sell their past questions to Joe Public? > How often is a set of questions at a given test centre "recycled"? > Surely not all the questions over several years can be unique? > Most important of course can anyone recommend the most cost effective > way to get sample exams with explanations for the answers? > Many thanks, > WG Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178779
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    - Re: OT: Too many posts On Nov 18, 2005 at 11:41am "kpg" blathered: > needs to read Moby Dick I'm still waiting for the movie to come out. -- TGP MCNGP #100100 http://www.techgeekpro.com Why doesn't DOS ever say "EXCELLENT command or filename!" Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178778
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    - Re: Want MSDN access? Talk to me! On Nov 18, 2005 at 12:18pm "Consultant" blathered: > yeah, maybe i can pay you to slam my wife too? ya jagass PotD -- TGP MCNGP #100100 http://www.techgeekpro.com 1 + 1 = 3, for large values of 1 Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178777
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    - Re: RE:MCSE Exam Simulations Briscobar <youcant@sendmespam.com> said something like > # Name resolution details: file://c:\temp\178233.htm (11/18/2005 > 3:55:58 PM) # wgates@dell.com <wgates@dell.com> rambled: >> >> Been looking lately at some products like Testking, Actualtests, >> Certificationking and found so many questions duplicated by each >> company. Obviously its pointless buying the same exam sets eg 70 270 >> from all three. >> Do they get their questions from MS? >> Do MS sell their past questions to Joe Public? >> How often is a set of questions at a given test centre "recycled"? >> Surely not all the questions over several years can be unique? >> Most important of course can anyone recommend the most cost effective >> way to get sample exams with explanations for the answers? >> Many thanks, >> WG > > Alright, I'm not going to flame you, as I am wont to do. Because it > seems you're asking a genuine question, not knowing the answer, as > opposed to trying to sway us into believing that TestKings are good. > Here's the skinny: > > TestKing, Actualtest, and any derivitave thereof ARE actual exam > questions. And they DO come from Microsoft - but not legally. What > happens is these idiots pay people to take the tests and write down > the questions, word for word, and what they think is the answer. Then > they publish these, trying to prey on peoples' greed. There is no > simpler way to say it: This is cheating. This is not condoned by > Microsoft, nor any well-intentioned MCP or MCP-to-be. They are nothing > more than the lazy way out. They attempt to allow you to skirt actual > testing, studying, and more testing. And they probably do a fine job. > However, once you get out in the real world, you won't know how > anything works, just that it does. Fat, dumb, and stupid is no way to > go through life. > > So, any website offering you a 100% passing guarantee or real exam > questions should be avoided. Tools such as MeasureUp and Transcenders, > along with Sybex and MSPress books seem to all get good reviews, and > are not cheating. > Mr. Briscobar, that is a lucid, intelligent, well thought-out explanation. Overruled! It's turtles all the way down. Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178776
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    - Re: OT: Too many posts On Nov 18, 2005 at 4:43pm "Briscobar" blathered: > Minimum security prison I had a client in there once. He said the trick is: kick someone's a$$ the first day, or become somebody's b1tch. Then everything will be alright. -- TGP MCNGP #100100 http://www.techgeekpro.com There are two kinds of people in the world, those that think there are two kinds of people in the world, and those that know better. Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178775
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    - Re: Want MSDN access? Talk to me! "TechGeekPro" <%username%@gmail.com> wrote in message news:Xns9712ACE69B35tgp@127.0.0.1... > On Nov 18, 2005 at 12:18pm "Consultant" blathered: > >> yeah, maybe i can pay you to slam my wife too? ya jagass > > PotD Wholeheartedly seconded. -- Mitch "yer such a Jameshole" S. MCNGP XLVIII (Now do the other certs REALLY matter?) "Place your bet - Ah say - place your bets, gentlemen. Winnner plays, loser stays. Everyone's a winne - well, not everyone." - F. Leghorn Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178774
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    - Re: OT: Too many posts In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, kpg spewed across the ether: > TechGeekPro <%username%@gmail.com> said something like > >> # Name resolution details: file://c:\temp\178244.htm (11/18/2005 >> 3:58:32 PM) # On Nov 18, 2005 at 11:41am "kpg" blathered: >> >>> needs to read Moby Dick >> >> I'm still waiting for the movie to come out. > > > It already did. > > > The book is better. > Yup. With Gregory Peck as Ahab. Dunno who played the whale... -- JaR MCNGP 10110 Remove hat to reply What did you do to the cat? It looks half-dead. -- Schroedinger's wife Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178773
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    - Re: OT: Too many posts In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, TechGeekPro spewed across the ether: > How about "Superfluous". Well, sure. At least it would be now! -- JaR MCNGP 10110 Remove hat to reply Not ignorance, but ignorance of ignorance, is the death of knowledge. ~Alfred North Whitehead Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178772
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    - Re: RE:MCSE Exam Simulations On Nov 18, 2005 at 4:57pm "kpg" blathered: > that is a lucid, intelligent, well thought-out explanation. He must've accidentally posted to the wrong newsgroup. -- TGP MCNGP #100100 http://www.techgeekpro.com Our Lady of Blessed Acceleration, don't fail us now. Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178771
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    - Re: RE:MCSE Exam Simulations On Nov 18, 2005 at 4:35pm "Frisbee®" blathered: > It's turtles all the way down. Yes, the old lady was right. -- TGP MCNGP #100100 http://www.techgeekpro.com New systems generate new problems. Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178770
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    - RE:MCSE Exam Simulations On Nov 18, 2005 at 4:29pm "" blathered: > <snipped> That has got to be the worst troll I've ever seen. -- TGP MCNGP #100100 http://www.techgeekpro.com Mr. Osborne, may I be excused? My brain is full. Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178769
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    - Re: OT: Too many posts TechGeekPro <%username%@gmail.com> rambled: > > On Nov 18, 2005 at 4:43pm "Briscobar" blathered: > >> Minimum security prison > > I had a client in there once. He said the trick is: kick someone's > a$$ the first day, or become somebody's b1tch. Then everything will > be alright. Good good. Only a couple words off. You may need a refresher course, so I dug this up for you: http://blake.prohosting.com/bamzone/office_space_transcript.html I could spend all day every day reading it and playing the movie back in my head. -- KB MCNGP #26 www.mgnpc.mco makes fun fo dylsexics. Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178768
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    - Re: OT: Too many posts On Nov 18, 2005 at 5:19pm "Briscobar" blathered: > TechGeekPro <%username%@gmail.com> rambled: >> >> On Nov 18, 2005 at 4:43pm "Briscobar" blathered: >> >>> Minimum security prison >> >> I had a client in there once. He said the trick is: kick someone's >> a$$ the first day, or become somebody's b1tch. Then everything will >> be alright. > > Good good. Only a couple words off. You may need a refresher course, so I > dug this up for you: > > http://blake.prohosting.com/bamzone/office_space_transcript.html > > I could spend all day every day reading it and playing the movie back in my > head. A thousand apologies. Both IMDB and quotations.about.com quote it that way. -- TGP MCNGP #100100 http://www.techgeekpro.com I'm out! I'm out of the contest. Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178767
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    - Re: Leasing Time Issue In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, =?Utf-8?B?Zm1zbWNzZQ==?= spewed across the ether: > That's exactly the issue, the client is in a remote site and the lease > has not expired. > For sure if the link is down, it should keep it's address until it > expires, one MUST consider the leasing time. Wrong. If it tries to connect and cannot, it will instead assign itself an APIPA. When it finally is able to get an ACK from DHCP, it may be leased the same addy or another, depending on your network. If it is important that this box not change it's address, then you should assign it a static IP. -- JaR MCNGP 10110 Remove hat to reply The gene pool could use a little chlorine. Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178766
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    - Re: RE:MCSE Exam Simulations MitchS <networkyoda@nospam.gmail.com> rambled: > > Would this be a good target for some certain someone? Usually yeah, but I'm getting this innocent vibe from the OP. I think it may be better for a "certain someone" to wait for the next definite dumper. It shouldn't be too long now. -- KB MCNGP #26 www.mcngp.com will kill you! No, not! Only kidding! Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178765
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    - Ping: Frisbee MR FRIS SIR PLEASE BE POSTING WHERE I MAY BE DOWNLOADING YOUR LATEST EMAIL ADDY. WE HAVE SUPER SEKRIT FORUMS FOR YOU TO BE AT YOUR CONVENIENCE. I BE THANKING YOU FOR KINDLY DOING THE NEEDFUL. MR TGP GUY -- TGP MCNGP #100100 http://www.techgeekpro.com Be sure to check out MCNGP.net. "It's dot com!" Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178764
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    - Re: OT: Friday sweetness "Briscobar" <youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in message news:O855ESF7FHA.1032@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... > Thanks. Oh yeah, there is definitely a pay raise. Not one to discuss it > here, but let's just say the preliminary numbers were significant. On top > of > paying for classes, and a raise when I finish class. So yeah, pay raise. > Of > course, there's added responsibility, but eh, it comes with the > territory... Responsibility is BAD. Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178763
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    - Re: Sorry to have bother you all In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Ed spewed across the ether: > I came to this newsgroup believing it to be related Microsoft > certification, opps my bad! I guess MCSE must mean something else to > you under 5's out there, so I'm sorry to have troubled you. Anyway you > all take care now and remember to brush your teeth before you go to > bed at 8pm tonight! Oh dear. An unsatisfied visitor. Whatever shall we do? Ohhh, GOOD sigmonster! -- JaR MCNGP 10110 Remove hat to reply A few minutes ago I attempted to give a flying fsck, but the best I could do was to watch it skitter across the floor. Anthony de Boer) Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178762
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    - Re: Leasing Time Issue In article <CAA1EFA5-8E6B-4902-BEC7-6C7117FF2046@microsoft.com>, SiqueiraFelipe@discussions.microsoft.com says... > Hi all, hope someone has seen this freaking trouble. > > I have a central DHCP server in the main site and many remote sites. > The leasing time is 10 days. A computer got an IP address at day 1 and at > the day 2 the link went down for some hours. > > For some reason, this client had to reboot, and as per the theory, the > machine should keep the address for more 8 days, until the 10th, but when I > reboots it releases the IP address and get itself an APIPA address.... > > Has someone gone through that??? > > Thanks. > What happens if you plug the computer into a jack that you know receives addresses? Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178761
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    - Re: Leasing Time Issue I'm sorry...?? "Ben Smith" wrote: > In article <CAA1EFA5-8E6B-4902-BEC7-6C7117FF2046@microsoft.com>, > SiqueiraFelipe@discussions.microsoft.com says... > > Hi all, hope someone has seen this freaking trouble. > > > > I have a central DHCP server in the main site and many remote sites. > > The leasing time is 10 days. A computer got an IP address at day 1 and at > > the day 2 the link went down for some hours. > > > > For some reason, this client had to reboot, and as per the theory, the > > machine should keep the address for more 8 days, until the 10th, but when I > > reboots it releases the IP address and get itself an APIPA address.... > > > > Has someone gone through that??? > > > > Thanks. > > > > What happens if you plug the computer into a jack that you know receives > addresses? > Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178760
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    - Re: Sorry to have bother you all another lost to the "Dark Side"... Maybe he was the chosen one? "Ed" <#> wrote in message news:11nsif45j73mee0@corp.supernews.com... >I came to this newsgroup believing it to be related Microsoft >certification, opps my bad! I guess MCSE must mean something else to you >under 5's out there, so I'm sorry to have troubled you. Anyway you all take >care now and remember to brush your teeth before you go to bed at 8pm >tonight! > > Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178759
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    - Re: Leasing Time Issue Ok, gotcha, but what if I tell you that I stopped the DHCP service and rebooted 5 machines, 2 2k and 3 XP and only one XP got itself an APIPA address, all the other kept their addresses as per the leasing period. How do you explain all being rebooted and just one doing what you said it's supposed to do? I'm NOT saying you are mistaken, I'm just asking you a question. Besides, I've not found a clue in the MS documentation regarding your point, stating the client would release the IP if it can not contact the DHCP server, could you provide it? Again, I just want help, I'm do not want to get into a "fight". Tx. "LRM" wrote: > Ok, you have a remote pc receiving dhcp addresses from a dhcp server. The > link goes down. While the link is down a pc has been rebooted. Well, it will > not keep it's dhcp address because it will not have a DHCP server to tell it > that the address is still leased to it. So it will try to ask for one and > will not receive one and will give itself the APIPA address. The lease is > only important if the machine isn't rebooted. So, earlier, when the other > posters kept saying it couldn't see the dhcp server and that was the point. > The other pc's kept their addresses because they hadn't rebooted. > Run ipconfig /renew on the pc and all should be well as long as you don't > have any issues with the card or other network devices between the pc and > the dhcp server. > > -- > LRM > > > "fmsmcse" <fmsmcse@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:1171F898-B417-4E18-BAEA-68965F97ED81@microsoft.com... > > That's exactly the issue, the client is in a remote site and the lease has > > not expired. > > For sure if the link is down, it should keep it's address until it > > expires, > > one MUST consider the leasing time. > > > > "JaR" wrote: > > > >> In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, =?Utf-8?B?Zm1zbWNzZQ==?= spewed > >> across the ether: > >> > >> > >> > Yes, it can't find the net, but it should keep the IP until the lease > >> > expires if it couldn't contact the DHCP at 50% and 87,5% of the total > >> > time for the end of the lease. > >> > >> Forget about the lease. If the client is giving itself an APIPA, it can't > >> see the DHCP server for some reason. > >> > >> -- > >> JaR > >> MCNGP 10110 > >> Remove hat to reply > >> You can see a lot by just looking. ~Yogi Berra > >> > > > Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178758
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    - Re: Leasing Time Issue On Nov 18, 2005 at 9:23pm "LRM" blathered: > Ok, you have a remote pc receiving dhcp addresses from a dhcp server. > The link goes down. While the link is down a pc has been rebooted. Well, > it will not keep it's dhcp address because it will not have a DHCP > server to tell it that the address is still leased to it. So it will try > to ask for one and will not receive one and will give itself the APIPA > address. The lease is only important if the machine isn't rebooted. So, > earlier, when the other posters kept saying it couldn't see the dhcp > server and that was the point. The other pc's kept their addresses > because they hadn't rebooted. Run ipconfig /renew on the pc and all > should be well as long as you don't have any issues with the card or > other network devices between the pc and the dhcp server. Well put. -- TGP MCNGP #100100 http://www.techgeekpro.com It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education. Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178757
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    - Re: Sorry to have bother you all "Ed" <#> wrote in news:11nsif45j73mee0@corp.supernews.com: > I came to this newsgroup believing it to be related Microsoft > certification, opps my bad! I guess MCSE must mean something else to > you under 5's out there, so I'm sorry to have troubled you. Anyway you > all take care now and remember to brush your teeth before you go to > bed at 8pm tonight! > > yes. it did come with fries but someone ate the long ones. -- Rowdy Yates, MCNGP Thug #39 http://www.mcngp.com/ http://profiles.yahoo.com/rowdy_yates_mcngp Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178756
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    - Re: Leasing Time Issue "fmsmcse" <fmsmcse@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:8A2A00D1-0C26-4652-A4F2-93D59DA563C4@microsoft.com... > Ok, gotcha, but what if I tell you that I stopped the DHCP service and > rebooted 5 machines, 2 2k and 3 XP and only one XP got itself an APIPA A client will try to renew it's address when it is restarted, when ipconfig /renew is issued or when it reaches 50% of it's lease duration. If it fails during the last it will try again at 87% of the lease duration. > all the other kept their addresses as per the leasing period. This would not be likely. What is most likely occuring is that an alternate cofiguration has been added to the machines that seem to be renewing sans the DHCP server. I have had to do this in some really trashed networks to provide addresses for clients while fixing a DHCP server. > > How do you explain all being rebooted and just one doing what you said > it's > supposed to do? I can't explain why your clients aren't doing what they are supposed to be doing without more information. > Besides, I've not found a clue in the MS documentation regarding your > point, > stating the client would release the IP if it can not contact the DHCP > server, could you provide it? The client in a restart is requesting a renewal, it is not issuing a release. >Again, I just want help, I'm do not want to get > into a "fight". Check out this site and see if it helps: http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/e n-us/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-u s/prjj_ipa_mbhh.asp LRM Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178755
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    - Re: Leasing Time Issue Ok, you have a remote pc receiving dhcp addresses from a dhcp server. The link goes down. While the link is down a pc has been rebooted. Well, it will not keep it's dhcp address because it will not have a DHCP server to tell it that the address is still leased to it. So it will try to ask for one and will not receive one and will give itself the APIPA address. The lease is only important if the machine isn't rebooted. So, earlier, when the other posters kept saying it couldn't see the dhcp server and that was the point. The other pc's kept their addresses because they hadn't rebooted. Run ipconfig /renew on the pc and all should be well as long as you don't have any issues with the card or other network devices between the pc and the dhcp server. -- LRM "fmsmcse" <fmsmcse@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:1171F898-B417-4E18-BAEA-68965F97ED81@microsoft.com... > That's exactly the issue, the client is in a remote site and the lease has > not expired. > For sure if the link is down, it should keep it's address until it > expires, > one MUST consider the leasing time. > > "JaR" wrote: > >> In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, =?Utf-8?B?Zm1zbWNzZQ==?= spewed >> across the ether: >> >> >> > Yes, it can't find the net, but it should keep the IP until the lease >> > expires if it couldn't contact the DHCP at 50% and 87,5% of the total >> > time for the end of the lease. >> >> Forget about the lease. If the client is giving itself an APIPA, it can't >> see the DHCP server for some reason. >> >> -- >> JaR >> MCNGP 10110 >> Remove hat to reply >> You can see a lot by just looking. ~Yogi Berra >> Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178754
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    - Re: Please Post More "James" <fake@email.com> wrote in news:e76YZ9G7FHA.444 @TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl: > This group is too inactive, and not enough knowledge is being shared. > > Please post more! > >:) > > MCGPGLMNOP #1 > > more. -- Rowdy Yates, MCNGP Thug #39 http://www.mcngp.com/ http://profiles.yahoo.com/rowdy_yates_mcngp Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178753
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    - Re: MCSE Exam Simulations >Alright, I'm not going to flame you, as I am wont to do. Because it seems >you're asking a genuine question, not knowing the answer, as opposed to >trying to sway us into believing that TestKings are good. Here's the skinny: > >TestKing, Actualtest, and any derivitave thereof ARE actual exam questions. >And they DO come from Microsoft - but not legally. What happens is these >idiots pay people to take the tests and write down the questions, word for >word, and what they think is the answer. Then they publish these, trying to >prey on peoples' greed. There is no simpler way to say it: This is cheating. Many thanks for the lucid intelligent reply. I am not trying to cheat and have no need to. When I attained a BSc from London University years ago that "revered institution" sold their own exam papers from previous years and probably still does. Does this not happen Stateside? That is all I am asking for - how can reading past papers be cheating? I have it on good advice that half the struggle with MS exams is grappling with the devious way in which the questions are composed, not the material itself. And yes I have read study guides, user manuals and gained years of experience in IT. This is not the first time I have come across posters who make rash and rapid assumptions about people - did I say Testking were any good? That's three questions in this post BTW but I don't think its me that's wasting space here OK fourth one - if these cowboys are selling answers written down by paid "sitters" is that why so many of the answers in their prodcuts are crap or at best highly debatable?! Thus he spake: " who climbs a hill without first knowing how steep is the hill?". Does a rhetorical question count? I'm losing count here. (Answer: A Turtle) Honest Joe Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178752
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    - Re: Leasing Time Issue That happens to 5 out of 100 machines and I've checked for alternate IP configs and there's nothing configured. The question is, why do these 5 clients only always release they IP? "LRM" wrote: > > > "fmsmcse" <fmsmcse@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:8A2A00D1-0C26-4652-A4F2-93D59DA563C4@microsoft.com... > > Ok, gotcha, but what if I tell you that I stopped the DHCP service and > > rebooted 5 machines, 2 2k and 3 XP and only one XP got itself an APIPA > > A client will try to renew it's address when it is restarted, > when ipconfig /renew is issued or when it reaches 50% of it's lease > duration. If it fails during the last it will try again at 87% of the lease > duration. > > > all the other kept their addresses as per the leasing period. > > This would not be likely. What is most likely occuring is that an alternate > cofiguration has been added to the machines that seem to be renewing sans > the DHCP server. I have had to do this in some really trashed networks to > provide addresses for clients while fixing a DHCP server. > > > > How do you explain all being rebooted and just one doing what you said > > it's > > supposed to do? > > I can't explain why your clients aren't doing what they are supposed to be > doing without more information. > > > Besides, I've not found a clue in the MS documentation regarding your > > point, > > stating the client would release the IP if it can not contact the DHCP > > server, could you provide it? > > The client in a restart is requesting a renewal, it is not issuing a > release. > > >Again, I just want help, I'm do not want to get > > into a "fight". > > Check out this site and see if it helps: > http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/e n-us/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-u s/prjj_ipa_mbhh.asp > > LRM > > > Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178751
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    - Re: MCSE Exam Simulations <wgates@dell.com> wrote in message news:s3aun1l47021m63dmffi3lli2qs76soc3c@4ax.com... > Many thanks for the lucid intelligent reply. I am not trying to cheat > and have no need to. Good, but it seems that that is not always the case. >When I attained a BSc from London University > years ago that "revered institution" sold their own exam papers from > previous years and probably still does. Does this not happen > Stateside? Probably, but I never have paid for them. >That is all I am asking for - how can reading past papers > be cheating? It wouldn't be if Microsoft were the one's offering them up and they were questions that weren't going to be asked again. But that is not the case. >I have it on good advice that half the struggle with MS > exams is grappling with the devious way in which the questions are > composed, not the material itself. Not true, the questions as far as I have experienced aren't really devious at all. Sometimes they are very complex and you have to know the subject extremely well to answer them appropriately. That would be the point of the test, to measure knowledge of the product. > And yes I have read study guides, user manuals and gained years of > experience in IT. This is not the first time I have come across > posters who make rash and rapid assumptions about people - did I say > Testking were any good? No, you didn't. But, A$$FUSKRS don't usually make a point about which is good and which is bad. They are just interested in passing the tests in the easiest way possible. You do not seem to be one of them. I am sorry I didn't notice that first. I'm kinda knew here. > That's three questions in this post BTW but I don't think its me > that's wasting space here Now what does that mean exactly? > OK fourth one - if these cowboys are selling answers written down by > paid "sitters" is that why so many of the answers in their prodcuts > are crap or at best highly debatable?! Yes, that's why, and I have forgotten, did someone earlier say that or is this something you have noticed by acquiring these products? Oh, the most cost effective way to prepare yourself is really to build a network as cheaply as possible and use material from your local library and the mountain of documentation that comes with the the product in the help and support center. Classes are good if you don't know a certain aspect of the product. My downfall is still RRAS. I purchased a fifty dollar book that I could use at work and to help study and build the test environment as though I didn't have anything but windows machines and layer 2 switches. Seems weird, but it is Microsoft's product and their test I'm taking so, that's why I'm doing it. > Does a rhetorical question count? I'm losing count here. Ask all the questions you want, but, you may not always like the answers. > (Answer: A Turtle) I think the answer here is: it's turles all the way down. LRM When they have taken everything all you have left is your honor Tag: Re: OT: Friday Frivolity Tag: 178750

On Nov 18, 2005 at 2:00pm "CBIC" blathered:

> http://www.sloganizer.net/en/

Egads, that's fun. I could spend all day doing that.

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