I passed my CCNA, 2K Workstation & Server on my first attempt but when I got
to the 70-216 I was blind sided by some of the questions. Is this exam the
hardest of the MCSE 2000?

Re: Failed 70-216 by Ben

Ben
Wed Feb 09 15:56:18 CST 2005

"Scotty" <Scotty@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4ED2BAB0-16A7-4E5A-882E-09A79563BA5A@microsoft.com...
> I passed my CCNA, 2K Workstation & Server on my first attempt but when I
got
> to the 70-216 I was blind sided by some of the questions. Is this exam
the
> hardest of the MCSE 2000?

Hey Scotty,

Sorry to hear you failed, I took my 70-216 today and just managed to pass
with a score of 700 (see 3 posts below)

I found this the hardest so far, 210, 214, 215 and 218 were a breeze
compared to 216. However I have 217 and 221 coming up, and I'm expecting 221
(design exam) to be the hardest of the lot. I hear you get a case study and
you have to design a specification to a set of requirements.

What questions did you get? Maybe simular to mine, lots of multicasting at
the start?

I can only suggest reading lots of study guides and writting out what you
read, its the only way to get it to stick in your mind. Of course the BEST
way to revise is to have a live system to setup, configure, troubleshoot &
fix. Of course this isn't always possible, i.e. where I work we have no need
for multicasting, so I've not had chance to play with it!
For study guides I'd recommend sybex or cram exam, I used mike myers but a
lot of 70-216 wasn't covered in it!

Ben



Re: Failed 70-216 by Scotty

Scotty
Wed Feb 09 16:11:03 CST 2005

Thanks for the reply. Before the test I had studied the Sybex. It seems
that some of the test questions were not even covered in the book. I.E. BIND
& Round Robin. BTW what is Round Robin. Anyway I now have the Cram Test and
I will probably try it again next week.

Scotty

"Ben" wrote:

> "Scotty" <Scotty@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:4ED2BAB0-16A7-4E5A-882E-09A79563BA5A@microsoft.com...
> > I passed my CCNA, 2K Workstation & Server on my first attempt but when I
> got
> > to the 70-216 I was blind sided by some of the questions. Is this exam
> the
> > hardest of the MCSE 2000?
>
> Hey Scotty,
>
> Sorry to hear you failed, I took my 70-216 today and just managed to pass
> with a score of 700 (see 3 posts below)
>
> I found this the hardest so far, 210, 214, 215 and 218 were a breeze
> compared to 216. However I have 217 and 221 coming up, and I'm expecting 221
> (design exam) to be the hardest of the lot. I hear you get a case study and
> you have to design a specification to a set of requirements.
>
> What questions did you get? Maybe simular to mine, lots of multicasting at
> the start?
>
> I can only suggest reading lots of study guides and writting out what you
> read, its the only way to get it to stick in your mind. Of course the BEST
> way to revise is to have a live system to setup, configure, troubleshoot &
> fix. Of course this isn't always possible, i.e. where I work we have no need
> for multicasting, so I've not had chance to play with it!
> For study guides I'd recommend sybex or cram exam, I used mike myers but a
> lot of 70-216 wasn't covered in it!
>
> Ben
>
>
>

Re: Failed 70-216 by catwalker63

catwalker63
Wed Feb 09 17:44:46 CST 2005

=?Utf-8?B?U2NvdHR5?= <Scotty@discussions.microsoft.com> prattled
ceaslessly in news:E804AF4A-7431-4540-B7B3-43ACFB696A59@microsoft.com:

> Thanks for the reply. Before the test I had studied the Sybex. It
> seems that some of the test questions were not even covered in the
> book. I.E. BIND & Round Robin. BTW what is Round Robin. Anyway I
> now have the Cram Test and I will probably try it again next week.
>
> Scotty
>
> "Ben" wrote:
>
>> "Scotty" <Scotty@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:4ED2BAB0-16A7-4E5A-882E-09A79563BA5A@microsoft.com...
>> > I passed my CCNA, 2K Workstation & Server on my first attempt but
>> > when I
>> got
>> > to the 70-216 I was blind sided by some of the questions. Is this
>> > exam
>> the
>> > hardest of the MCSE 2000?
>>
>> Hey Scotty,
>>
>> Sorry to hear you failed, I took my 70-216 today and just managed to
>> pass with a score of 700 (see 3 posts below)
>>
>> I found this the hardest so far, 210, 214, 215 and 218 were a breeze
>> compared to 216. However I have 217 and 221 coming up, and I'm
>> expecting 221 (design exam) to be the hardest of the lot. I hear you
>> get a case study and you have to design a specification to a set of
>> requirements.
>>
>> What questions did you get? Maybe simular to mine, lots of
>> multicasting at the start?
>>
>> I can only suggest reading lots of study guides and writting out what
>> you read, its the only way to get it to stick in your mind. Of course
>> the BEST way to revise is to have a live system to setup, configure,
>> troubleshoot & fix. Of course this isn't always possible, i.e. where
>> I work we have no need for multicasting, so I've not had chance to
>> play with it! For study guides I'd recommend sybex or cram exam, I
>> used mike myers but a lot of 70-216 wasn't covered in it!
>>
>> Ben
>>
>>
>>
>

Try the MS Press book. Also, read the relevant material in the Windows
2000 Server Resource Kit, available online at:

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/2000/server/resk
it/en-us/default.asp

or

http://tinyurl.com/53egs

And Ben is right, you really need to have a couple of computers to play
with. BTW: Round robin is a DNS feature that allows you to setup
servers with the same name and different IP addresses and load balance
web servers or RRAS servers.

I passed this exam about 3 weeks ago with a good score (909) but I
studied from three books (MS Press, Global Knowledge Certified Press, and
the for Dummies book), read resource kit articles, kb articles, subnetted
until I could do it in my sleep, and practiced/simulated as much as I
could with two servers. This is not an exam you can just cram for (it is
affectionately known as "The Beast"), you have to really know to do well.
Good luck.

--
Catwalker
aka Pu$$y Feet
BS, MCP
MCNGP #43
www.mcngp.com

"Eat your cereal with a fork and do your homework in the dark."

Re: Failed 70-216 by Rowdy

Rowdy
Wed Feb 09 21:12:11 CST 2005

=?Utf-8?B?U2NvdHR5?= <Scotty@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
news:4ED2BAB0-16A7-4E5A-882E-09A79563BA5A@microsoft.com:

> I passed my CCNA, 2K Workstation & Server on my first attempt but when
> I got to the 70-216 I was blind sided by some of the questions. Is
> this exam the hardest of the MCSE 2000?

i don't think it's the hardest - but it's "harder" than some others. if you
know which area's you lack in - you might want to brush up on them.
especially stuff thats on the exam but you don't use. could be WINS e.t.c..



better luck next time.

RY
--
Rowdy Yates, MCNGP #39
http://www.mcngp.com/
http://profiles.yahoo.com/rowdy_yates_mcngp

Re: Failed 70-216 by Preacher

Preacher
Fri Feb 11 15:09:15 CST 2005

What do I need to know about multicasting? I really don't understand what
it's used for.


"catwalker63" <_catwalker63_@hotmamamail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95F8A02E2955Ccatwalker63athotmail@216.196.97.136...
> =?Utf-8?B?U2NvdHR5?= <Scotty@discussions.microsoft.com> prattled
> ceaslessly in news:E804AF4A-7431-4540-B7B3-43ACFB696A59@microsoft.com:
>
> > Thanks for the reply. Before the test I had studied the Sybex. It
> > seems that some of the test questions were not even covered in the
> > book. I.E. BIND & Round Robin. BTW what is Round Robin. Anyway I
> > now have the Cram Test and I will probably try it again next week.
> >
> > Scotty
> >
> > "Ben" wrote:
> >
> >> "Scotty" <Scotty@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:4ED2BAB0-16A7-4E5A-882E-09A79563BA5A@microsoft.com...
> >> > I passed my CCNA, 2K Workstation & Server on my first attempt but
> >> > when I
> >> got
> >> > to the 70-216 I was blind sided by some of the questions. Is this
> >> > exam
> >> the
> >> > hardest of the MCSE 2000?
> >>
> >> Hey Scotty,
> >>
> >> Sorry to hear you failed, I took my 70-216 today and just managed to
> >> pass with a score of 700 (see 3 posts below)
> >>
> >> I found this the hardest so far, 210, 214, 215 and 218 were a breeze
> >> compared to 216. However I have 217 and 221 coming up, and I'm
> >> expecting 221 (design exam) to be the hardest of the lot. I hear you
> >> get a case study and you have to design a specification to a set of
> >> requirements.
> >>
> >> What questions did you get? Maybe simular to mine, lots of
> >> multicasting at the start?
> >>
> >> I can only suggest reading lots of study guides and writting out what
> >> you read, its the only way to get it to stick in your mind. Of course
> >> the BEST way to revise is to have a live system to setup, configure,
> >> troubleshoot & fix. Of course this isn't always possible, i.e. where
> >> I work we have no need for multicasting, so I've not had chance to
> >> play with it! For study guides I'd recommend sybex or cram exam, I
> >> used mike myers but a lot of 70-216 wasn't covered in it!
> >>
> >> Ben
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
> Try the MS Press book. Also, read the relevant material in the Windows
> 2000 Server Resource Kit, available online at:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/2000/server/resk
> it/en-us/default.asp
>
> or
>
> http://tinyurl.com/53egs
>
> And Ben is right, you really need to have a couple of computers to play
> with. BTW: Round robin is a DNS feature that allows you to setup
> servers with the same name and different IP addresses and load balance
> web servers or RRAS servers.
>
> I passed this exam about 3 weeks ago with a good score (909) but I
> studied from three books (MS Press, Global Knowledge Certified Press, and
> the for Dummies book), read resource kit articles, kb articles, subnetted
> until I could do it in my sleep, and practiced/simulated as much as I
> could with two servers. This is not an exam you can just cram for (it is
> affectionately known as "The Beast"), you have to really know to do well.
> Good luck.
>
> --
> Catwalker
> aka Pu$$y Feet
> BS, MCP
> MCNGP #43
> www.mcngp.com
>
> "Eat your cereal with a fork and do your homework in the dark."



Re: Failed 70-216 by LnkWizard

LnkWizard
Fri Feb 11 15:20:33 CST 2005

One thing we use it for at my job is to download disk images to multiple
machines.

---------------------------------------------------------------------
Lnkwizard2 MCNGP 2^5

http://www.mcngp.com
"He who does not test himself is worthless indeed"
---------------------------------------------------------------------

"Preacher Man" <SLawson@bouldincorp.com> wrote in message
news:%23VZoJ5HEFHA.1564@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> What do I need to know about multicasting? I really don't understand what
> it's used for.
>
>
> "catwalker63" <_catwalker63_@hotmamamail.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns95F8A02E2955Ccatwalker63athotmail@216.196.97.136...
> > =?Utf-8?B?U2NvdHR5?= <Scotty@discussions.microsoft.com> prattled
> > ceaslessly in news:E804AF4A-7431-4540-B7B3-43ACFB696A59@microsoft.com:
> >
> > > Thanks for the reply. Before the test I had studied the Sybex. It
> > > seems that some of the test questions were not even covered in the
> > > book. I.E. BIND & Round Robin. BTW what is Round Robin. Anyway I
> > > now have the Cram Test and I will probably try it again next week.
> > >
> > > Scotty
> > >
> > > "Ben" wrote:
> > >
> > >> "Scotty" <Scotty@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:4ED2BAB0-16A7-4E5A-882E-09A79563BA5A@microsoft.com...
> > >> > I passed my CCNA, 2K Workstation & Server on my first attempt but
> > >> > when I
> > >> got
> > >> > to the 70-216 I was blind sided by some of the questions. Is this
> > >> > exam
> > >> the
> > >> > hardest of the MCSE 2000?
> > >>
> > >> Hey Scotty,
> > >>
> > >> Sorry to hear you failed, I took my 70-216 today and just managed to
> > >> pass with a score of 700 (see 3 posts below)
> > >>
> > >> I found this the hardest so far, 210, 214, 215 and 218 were a breeze
> > >> compared to 216. However I have 217 and 221 coming up, and I'm
> > >> expecting 221 (design exam) to be the hardest of the lot. I hear you
> > >> get a case study and you have to design a specification to a set of
> > >> requirements.
> > >>
> > >> What questions did you get? Maybe simular to mine, lots of
> > >> multicasting at the start?
> > >>
> > >> I can only suggest reading lots of study guides and writting out what
> > >> you read, its the only way to get it to stick in your mind. Of course
> > >> the BEST way to revise is to have a live system to setup, configure,
> > >> troubleshoot & fix. Of course this isn't always possible, i.e. where
> > >> I work we have no need for multicasting, so I've not had chance to
> > >> play with it! For study guides I'd recommend sybex or cram exam, I
> > >> used mike myers but a lot of 70-216 wasn't covered in it!
> > >>
> > >> Ben
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> > Try the MS Press book. Also, read the relevant material in the Windows
> > 2000 Server Resource Kit, available online at:
> >
> >
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/2000/server/resk
> > it/en-us/default.asp
> >
> > or
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/53egs
> >
> > And Ben is right, you really need to have a couple of computers to play
> > with. BTW: Round robin is a DNS feature that allows you to setup
> > servers with the same name and different IP addresses and load balance
> > web servers or RRAS servers.
> >
> > I passed this exam about 3 weeks ago with a good score (909) but I
> > studied from three books (MS Press, Global Knowledge Certified Press,
and
> > the for Dummies book), read resource kit articles, kb articles,
subnetted
> > until I could do it in my sleep, and practiced/simulated as much as I
> > could with two servers. This is not an exam you can just cram for (it
is
> > affectionately known as "The Beast"), you have to really know to do
well.
> > Good luck.
> >
> > --
> > Catwalker
> > aka Pu$$y Feet
> > BS, MCP
> > MCNGP #43
> > www.mcngp.com
> >
> > "Eat your cereal with a fork and do your homework in the dark."
>
>



Re: Failed 70-216 by Preacher

Preacher
Fri Feb 11 16:11:09 CST 2005

What are the advantages/disadvantages of using multicasting? How do you
implement multicasting?


"LnkWizard" <lnk.wizard.nodots2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uPk1G%23HEFHA.1396@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> One thing we use it for at my job is to download disk images to multiple
> machines.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> Lnkwizard2 MCNGP 2^5
>
> http://www.mcngp.com
> "He who does not test himself is worthless indeed"
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Preacher Man" <SLawson@bouldincorp.com> wrote in message
> news:%23VZoJ5HEFHA.1564@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > What do I need to know about multicasting? I really don't understand
what
> > it's used for.
> >
> >
> > "catwalker63" <_catwalker63_@hotmamamail.com> wrote in message
> > news:Xns95F8A02E2955Ccatwalker63athotmail@216.196.97.136...
> > > =?Utf-8?B?U2NvdHR5?= <Scotty@discussions.microsoft.com> prattled
> > > ceaslessly in news:E804AF4A-7431-4540-B7B3-43ACFB696A59@microsoft.com:
> > >
> > > > Thanks for the reply. Before the test I had studied the Sybex. It
> > > > seems that some of the test questions were not even covered in the
> > > > book. I.E. BIND & Round Robin. BTW what is Round Robin. Anyway I
> > > > now have the Cram Test and I will probably try it again next week.
> > > >
> > > > Scotty
> > > >
> > > > "Ben" wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> "Scotty" <Scotty@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > >> news:4ED2BAB0-16A7-4E5A-882E-09A79563BA5A@microsoft.com...
> > > >> > I passed my CCNA, 2K Workstation & Server on my first attempt but
> > > >> > when I
> > > >> got
> > > >> > to the 70-216 I was blind sided by some of the questions. Is
this
> > > >> > exam
> > > >> the
> > > >> > hardest of the MCSE 2000?
> > > >>
> > > >> Hey Scotty,
> > > >>
> > > >> Sorry to hear you failed, I took my 70-216 today and just managed
to
> > > >> pass with a score of 700 (see 3 posts below)
> > > >>
> > > >> I found this the hardest so far, 210, 214, 215 and 218 were a
breeze
> > > >> compared to 216. However I have 217 and 221 coming up, and I'm
> > > >> expecting 221 (design exam) to be the hardest of the lot. I hear
you
> > > >> get a case study and you have to design a specification to a set of
> > > >> requirements.
> > > >>
> > > >> What questions did you get? Maybe simular to mine, lots of
> > > >> multicasting at the start?
> > > >>
> > > >> I can only suggest reading lots of study guides and writting out
what
> > > >> you read, its the only way to get it to stick in your mind. Of
course
> > > >> the BEST way to revise is to have a live system to setup,
configure,
> > > >> troubleshoot & fix. Of course this isn't always possible, i.e.
where
> > > >> I work we have no need for multicasting, so I've not had chance to
> > > >> play with it! For study guides I'd recommend sybex or cram exam, I
> > > >> used mike myers but a lot of 70-216 wasn't covered in it!
> > > >>
> > > >> Ben
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> > > Try the MS Press book. Also, read the relevant material in the
Windows
> > > 2000 Server Resource Kit, available online at:
> > >
> > >
> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/2000/server/resk
> > > it/en-us/default.asp
> > >
> > > or
> > >
> > > http://tinyurl.com/53egs
> > >
> > > And Ben is right, you really need to have a couple of computers to
play
> > > with. BTW: Round robin is a DNS feature that allows you to setup
> > > servers with the same name and different IP addresses and load balance
> > > web servers or RRAS servers.
> > >
> > > I passed this exam about 3 weeks ago with a good score (909) but I
> > > studied from three books (MS Press, Global Knowledge Certified Press,
> and
> > > the for Dummies book), read resource kit articles, kb articles,
> subnetted
> > > until I could do it in my sleep, and practiced/simulated as much as I
> > > could with two servers. This is not an exam you can just cram for (it
> is
> > > affectionately known as "The Beast"), you have to really know to do
> well.
> > > Good luck.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Catwalker
> > > aka Pu$$y Feet
> > > BS, MCP
> > > MCNGP #43
> > > www.mcngp.com
> > >
> > > "Eat your cereal with a fork and do your homework in the dark."
> >
> >
>
>



Re: Failed 70-216 by Preacher

Preacher
Fri Feb 11 16:12:14 CST 2005

Thanks. Could you give me some insights to multicasting? How it works,
implementation, etc?


"Rowdy Yates" <rowdy_yates_mcngp@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95F8E1DC02F36rowdyyates2124@207.46.248.16...
> =?Utf-8?B?U2NvdHR5?= <Scotty@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> news:4ED2BAB0-16A7-4E5A-882E-09A79563BA5A@microsoft.com:
>
> > I passed my CCNA, 2K Workstation & Server on my first attempt but when
> > I got to the 70-216 I was blind sided by some of the questions. Is
> > this exam the hardest of the MCSE 2000?
>
> i don't think it's the hardest - but it's "harder" than some others. if
you
> know which area's you lack in - you might want to brush up on them.
> especially stuff thats on the exam but you don't use. could be WINS
e.t.c..
>
>
>
> better luck next time.
>
> RY
> --
> Rowdy Yates, MCNGP #39
> http://www.mcngp.com/
> http://profiles.yahoo.com/rowdy_yates_mcngp



Re: Failed 70-216 by catwalker63

catwalker63
Fri Feb 11 17:00:40 CST 2005

"Preacher Man" <SLawson@bouldincorp.com> prattled ceaslessly in
news:up0lsbIEFHA.960@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl:

> What are the advantages/disadvantages of using multicasting? How do
> you implement multicasting?
>


Dude, you really need to do more studying. <sigh>

--
Catwalker
aka Pu$$y Feet
BS, MCP
MCNGP #43
www.mcngp.com

"Eat your cereal with a fork and do your homework in the dark."

Re: Failed 70-216 by Rowdy

Rowdy
Fri Feb 11 21:56:49 CST 2005

"Preacher Man" <SLawson@bouldincorp.com> wrote in news:e28eTcIEFHA.3908
@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl:

> Thanks. Could you give me some insights to multicasting? How it
works,
> implementation, etc?
>

one is called unicast. the other is called multicast.

if you are a host and you know exactly where the service is located on
the network - you will unicast to it.

if you are a host and you don't know where the service is located - you
will multicast to locate it on the network.

what don't you understand about it?

--
Rowdy Yates, MCNGP #39
http://www.mcngp.com/
"Shhhh... Do you smell that? I think is't Albanian Goat Smegma!"
http://www.geocities.com/rowdy_yates_mcngp/
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Re: Failed 70-216 by Ben

Ben
Sat Feb 12 10:03:43 CST 2005

One thing its used for is media streaming.

My understanding of how it works (which might be correct or not) is you have
a host who might be streaming video or music, with say 1000 listeners,
rather than that 1 host sending data to 1000 different clients it uses
multicasting, which means all the clients have a multicast address (which is
IP range 224.x.x.x-239.x.x.x), then the host only has to send a media strean
to 1 multicast address, rather than 1000 normal addresses.

At least thats my simplistic understanding of it...I need to study it more,
firstly because I think I got most of the questions in the exam on multicast
wrong, and secondly because it might come in very useful in the future
(especially if you can use it to deploy drive images, like LnkWizard)

Ben


"Preacher Man" <SLawson@bouldincorp.com> wrote in message
news:up0lsbIEFHA.960@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> What are the advantages/disadvantages of using multicasting? How do you
> implement multicasting?
>
>
> "LnkWizard" <lnk.wizard.nodots2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uPk1G%23HEFHA.1396@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > One thing we use it for at my job is to download disk images to multiple
> > machines.
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Lnkwizard2 MCNGP 2^5
> >
> > http://www.mcngp.com
> > "He who does not test himself is worthless indeed"
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > "Preacher Man" <SLawson@bouldincorp.com> wrote in message
> > news:%23VZoJ5HEFHA.1564@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > What do I need to know about multicasting? I really don't understand
> what
> > > it's used for.
> > >
> > >
> > > "catwalker63" <_catwalker63_@hotmamamail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:Xns95F8A02E2955Ccatwalker63athotmail@216.196.97.136...
> > > > =?Utf-8?B?U2NvdHR5?= <Scotty@discussions.microsoft.com> prattled
> > > > ceaslessly in
news:E804AF4A-7431-4540-B7B3-43ACFB696A59@microsoft.com:
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the reply. Before the test I had studied the Sybex.
It
> > > > > seems that some of the test questions were not even covered in the
> > > > > book. I.E. BIND & Round Robin. BTW what is Round Robin. Anyway
I
> > > > > now have the Cram Test and I will probably try it again next week.
> > > > >
> > > > > Scotty
> > > > >
> > > > > "Ben" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> "Scotty" <Scotty@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > >> news:4ED2BAB0-16A7-4E5A-882E-09A79563BA5A@microsoft.com...
> > > > >> > I passed my CCNA, 2K Workstation & Server on my first attempt
but
> > > > >> > when I
> > > > >> got
> > > > >> > to the 70-216 I was blind sided by some of the questions. Is
> this
> > > > >> > exam
> > > > >> the
> > > > >> > hardest of the MCSE 2000?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hey Scotty,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Sorry to hear you failed, I took my 70-216 today and just managed
> to
> > > > >> pass with a score of 700 (see 3 posts below)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I found this the hardest so far, 210, 214, 215 and 218 were a
> breeze
> > > > >> compared to 216. However I have 217 and 221 coming up, and I'm
> > > > >> expecting 221 (design exam) to be the hardest of the lot. I hear
> you
> > > > >> get a case study and you have to design a specification to a set
of
> > > > >> requirements.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> What questions did you get? Maybe simular to mine, lots of
> > > > >> multicasting at the start?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I can only suggest reading lots of study guides and writting out
> what
> > > > >> you read, its the only way to get it to stick in your mind. Of
> course
> > > > >> the BEST way to revise is to have a live system to setup,
> configure,
> > > > >> troubleshoot & fix. Of course this isn't always possible, i.e.
> where
> > > > >> I work we have no need for multicasting, so I've not had chance
to
> > > > >> play with it! For study guides I'd recommend sybex or cram exam,
I
> > > > >> used mike myers but a lot of 70-216 wasn't covered in it!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Ben
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Try the MS Press book. Also, read the relevant material in the
> Windows
> > > > 2000 Server Resource Kit, available online at:
> > > >
> > > >
> >
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/2000/server/resk
> > > > it/en-us/default.asp
> > > >
> > > > or
> > > >
> > > > http://tinyurl.com/53egs
> > > >
> > > > And Ben is right, you really need to have a couple of computers to
> play
> > > > with. BTW: Round robin is a DNS feature that allows you to setup
> > > > servers with the same name and different IP addresses and load
balance
> > > > web servers or RRAS servers.
> > > >
> > > > I passed this exam about 3 weeks ago with a good score (909) but I
> > > > studied from three books (MS Press, Global Knowledge Certified
Press,
> > and
> > > > the for Dummies book), read resource kit articles, kb articles,
> > subnetted
> > > > until I could do it in my sleep, and practiced/simulated as much as
I
> > > > could with two servers. This is not an exam you can just cram for
(it
> > is
> > > > affectionately known as "The Beast"), you have to really know to do
> > well.
> > > > Good luck.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Catwalker
> > > > aka Pu$$y Feet
> > > > BS, MCP
> > > > MCNGP #43
> > > > www.mcngp.com
> > > >
> > > > "Eat your cereal with a fork and do your homework in the dark."
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>



Re: Failed 70-216 by Ben

Ben
Sat Feb 12 10:04:59 CST 2005

That sounds like a cool idea! I thought it was mainly used for media
streaming music and video. But using it as an admin tool to deploy disk
images sounds like it makes PC builds quicker & easier. Got any good
info/links on how to do it? We use RIS at the moment, doing a couple of
builds at a ime, but as our network grows we're going to have to start
building more together.

Ben

"LnkWizard" <lnk.wizard.nodots2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uPk1G%23HEFHA.1396@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> One thing we use it for at my job is to download disk images to multiple
> machines.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> Lnkwizard2 MCNGP 2^5
>
> http://www.mcngp.com
> "He who does not test himself is worthless indeed"
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Preacher Man" <SLawson@bouldincorp.com> wrote in message
> news:%23VZoJ5HEFHA.1564@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > What do I need to know about multicasting? I really don't understand
what
> > it's used for.
> >
> >
> > "catwalker63" <_catwalker63_@hotmamamail.com> wrote in message
> > news:Xns95F8A02E2955Ccatwalker63athotmail@216.196.97.136...
> > > =?Utf-8?B?U2NvdHR5?= <Scotty@discussions.microsoft.com> prattled
> > > ceaslessly in news:E804AF4A-7431-4540-B7B3-43ACFB696A59@microsoft.com:
> > >
> > > > Thanks for the reply. Before the test I had studied the Sybex. It
> > > > seems that some of the test questions were not even covered in the
> > > > book. I.E. BIND & Round Robin. BTW what is Round Robin. Anyway I
> > > > now have the Cram Test and I will probably try it again next week.
> > > >
> > > > Scotty
> > > >
> > > > "Ben" wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> "Scotty" <Scotty@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > >> news:4ED2BAB0-16A7-4E5A-882E-09A79563BA5A@microsoft.com...
> > > >> > I passed my CCNA, 2K Workstation & Server on my first attempt but
> > > >> > when I
> > > >> got
> > > >> > to the 70-216 I was blind sided by some of the questions. Is
this
> > > >> > exam
> > > >> the
> > > >> > hardest of the MCSE 2000?
> > > >>
> > > >> Hey Scotty,
> > > >>
> > > >> Sorry to hear you failed, I took my 70-216 today and just managed
to
> > > >> pass with a score of 700 (see 3 posts below)
> > > >>
> > > >> I found this the hardest so far, 210, 214, 215 and 218 were a
breeze
> > > >> compared to 216. However I have 217 and 221 coming up, and I'm
> > > >> expecting 221 (design exam) to be the hardest of the lot. I hear
you
> > > >> get a case study and you have to design a specification to a set of
> > > >> requirements.
> > > >>
> > > >> What questions did you get? Maybe simular to mine, lots of
> > > >> multicasting at the start?
> > > >>
> > > >> I can only suggest reading lots of study guides and writting out
what
> > > >> you read, its the only way to get it to stick in your mind. Of
course
> > > >> the BEST way to revise is to have a live system to setup,
configure,
> > > >> troubleshoot & fix. Of course this isn't always possible, i.e.
where
> > > >> I work we have no need for multicasting, so I've not had chance to
> > > >> play with it! For study guides I'd recommend sybex or cram exam, I
> > > >> used mike myers but a lot of 70-216 wasn't covered in it!
> > > >>
> > > >> Ben
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> > > Try the MS Press book. Also, read the relevant material in the
Windows
> > > 2000 Server Resource Kit, available online at:
> > >
> > >
> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/2000/server/resk
> > > it/en-us/default.asp
> > >
> > > or
> > >
> > > http://tinyurl.com/53egs
> > >
> > > And Ben is right, you really need to have a couple of computers to
play
> > > with. BTW: Round robin is a DNS feature that allows you to setup
> > > servers with the same name and different IP addresses and load balance
> > > web servers or RRAS servers.
> > >
> > > I passed this exam about 3 weeks ago with a good score (909) but I
> > > studied from three books (MS Press, Global Knowledge Certified Press,
> and
> > > the for Dummies book), read resource kit articles, kb articles,
> subnetted
> > > until I could do it in my sleep, and practiced/simulated as much as I
> > > could with two servers. This is not an exam you can just cram for (it
> is
> > > affectionately known as "The Beast"), you have to really know to do
> well.
> > > Good luck.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Catwalker
> > > aka Pu$$y Feet
> > > BS, MCP
> > > MCNGP #43
> > > www.mcngp.com
> > >
> > > "Eat your cereal with a fork and do your homework in the dark."
> >
> >
>
>



Re: Failed 70-216 by Rowdy

Rowdy
Sat Feb 12 11:16:02 CST 2005

Symantec GhostCasting

http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/ghost.nsf/ppfdocs/2002101612025325

RY


"Ben" <bjblackmore@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in
news:ey#4RyREFHA.3732@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl:

> That sounds like a cool idea! I thought it was mainly used for media
> streaming music and video. But using it as an admin tool to deploy
> disk images sounds like it makes PC builds quicker & easier. Got any
> good info/links on how to do it? We use RIS at the moment, doing a
> couple of builds at a ime, but as our network grows we're going to
> have to start building more together.
>
> Ben
>
> "LnkWizard" <lnk.wizard.nodots2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uPk1G%23HEFHA.1396@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> One thing we use it for at my job is to download disk images to
>> multiple machines.
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Lnkwizard2 MCNGP 2^5
>>
>> http://www.mcngp.com
>> "He who does not test himself is worthless indeed"
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> "Preacher Man" <SLawson@bouldincorp.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23VZoJ5HEFHA.1564@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> > What do I need to know about multicasting? I really don't
>> > understand
> what
>> > it's used for.
>> >
>> >
>> > "catwalker63" <_catwalker63_@hotmamamail.com> wrote in message
>> > news:Xns95F8A02E2955Ccatwalker63athotmail@216.196.97.136...
>> > > =?Utf-8?B?U2NvdHR5?= <Scotty@discussions.microsoft.com> prattled
>> > > ceaslessly in
>> > > news:E804AF4A-7431-4540-B7B3-43ACFB696A59@microsoft.com:
>> > >
>> > > > Thanks for the reply. Before the test I had studied the Sybex.
>> > > > It seems that some of the test questions were not even covered
>> > > > in the book. I.E. BIND & Round Robin. BTW what is Round
>> > > > Robin. Anyway I now have the Cram Test and I will probably try
>> > > > it again next week.
>> > > >
>> > > > Scotty
>> > > >
>> > > > "Ben" wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> "Scotty" <Scotty@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > > >> news:4ED2BAB0-16A7-4E5A-882E-09A79563BA5A@microsoft.com...
>> > > >> > I passed my CCNA, 2K Workstation & Server on my first
>> > > >> > attempt but when I
>> > > >> got
>> > > >> > to the 70-216 I was blind sided by some of the questions.
>> > > >> > Is
> this
>> > > >> > exam
>> > > >> the
>> > > >> > hardest of the MCSE 2000?
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Hey Scotty,
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Sorry to hear you failed, I took my 70-216 today and just
>> > > >> managed
> to
>> > > >> pass with a score of 700 (see 3 posts below)
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I found this the hardest so far, 210, 214, 215 and 218 were a
> breeze
>> > > >> compared to 216. However I have 217 and 221 coming up, and I'm
>> > > >> expecting 221 (design exam) to be the hardest of the lot. I
>> > > >> hear
> you
>> > > >> get a case study and you have to design a specification to a
>> > > >> set of requirements.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> What questions did you get? Maybe simular to mine, lots of
>> > > >> multicasting at the start?
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I can only suggest reading lots of study guides and writting
>> > > >> out
> what
>> > > >> you read, its the only way to get it to stick in your mind. Of
> course
>> > > >> the BEST way to revise is to have a live system to setup,
> configure,
>> > > >> troubleshoot & fix. Of course this isn't always possible, i.e.
> where
>> > > >> I work we have no need for multicasting, so I've not had
>> > > >> chance to play with it! For study guides I'd recommend sybex
>> > > >> or cram exam, I used mike myers but a lot of 70-216 wasn't
>> > > >> covered in it!
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Ben
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > Try the MS Press book. Also, read the relevant material in the
> Windows
>> > > 2000 Server Resource Kit, available online at:
>> > >
>> > >
>> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/2000/server/r
>> esk
>> > > it/en-us/default.asp
>> > >
>> > > or
>> > >
>> > > http://tinyurl.com/53egs
>> > >
>> > > And Ben is right, you really need to have a couple of computers
>> > > to
> play
>> > > with. BTW: Round robin is a DNS feature that allows you to
>> > > setup servers with the same name and different IP addresses and
>> > > load balance web servers or RRAS servers.
>> > >
>> > > I passed this exam about 3 weeks ago with a good score (909) but
>> > > I studied from three books (MS Press, Global Knowledge Certified
>> > > Press,
>> and
>> > > the for Dummies book), read resource kit articles, kb articles,
>> subnetted
>> > > until I could do it in my sleep, and practiced/simulated as much
>> > > as I could with two servers. This is not an exam you can just
>> > > cram for (it
>> is
>> > > affectionately known as "The Beast"), you have to really know to
>> > > do
>> well.
>> > > Good luck.
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Catwalker
>> > > aka Pu$$y Feet
>> > > BS, MCP
>> > > MCNGP #43
>> > > www.mcngp.com
>> > >
>> > > "Eat your cereal with a fork and do your homework in the dark."
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>



--
Rowdy Yates, MCNGP #39
http://www.mcngp.com/
"Shhhh... Do you smell that? I think is't Albanian Goat Smegma!"
http://www.geocities.com/rowdy_yates_mcngp/
http://www.geocities.com/rowdy_yates_mcngp/google.gif

Re: Failed 70-216 by The

The
Sat Feb 12 11:29:00 CST 2005

Yeah. I really miss DeployCenter

--
"The Rev" MCNGP #44
Microsoft Certified Trainer

Memories fade but a Google search never forgets.
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.
"Rowdy Yates" <rowdy_yates_mcngpATyahooDOTcom> wrote in message
news:Xns95FB7CC785F14rowdyyates2124@207.46.248.16...
> Symantec GhostCasting
>
> http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/ghost.nsf/ppfdocs/2002101612025325
>
> RY
>
>
> "Ben" <bjblackmore@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:ey#4RyREFHA.3732@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl:
>
> > That sounds like a cool idea! I thought it was mainly used for media
> > streaming music and video. But using it as an admin tool to deploy
> > disk images sounds like it makes PC builds quicker & easier. Got any
> > good info/links on how to do it? We use RIS at the moment, doing a
> > couple of builds at a ime, but as our network grows we're going to
> > have to start building more together.
> >
> > Ben
> >
> > "LnkWizard" <lnk.wizard.nodots2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:uPk1G%23HEFHA.1396@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >> One thing we use it for at my job is to download disk images to
> >> multiple machines.
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Lnkwizard2 MCNGP 2^5
> >>
> >> http://www.mcngp.com
> >> "He who does not test himself is worthless indeed"
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> "Preacher Man" <SLawson@bouldincorp.com> wrote in message
> >> news:%23VZoJ5HEFHA.1564@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> > What do I need to know about multicasting? I really don't
> >> > understand
> > what
> >> > it's used for.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "catwalker63" <_catwalker63_@hotmamamail.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:Xns95F8A02E2955Ccatwalker63athotmail@216.196.97.136...
> >> > > =?Utf-8?B?U2NvdHR5?= <Scotty@discussions.microsoft.com> prattled
> >> > > ceaslessly in
> >> > > news:E804AF4A-7431-4540-B7B3-43ACFB696A59@microsoft.com:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Thanks for the reply. Before the test I had studied the Sybex.
> >> > > > It seems that some of the test questions were not even covered
> >> > > > in the book. I.E. BIND & Round Robin. BTW what is Round
> >> > > > Robin. Anyway I now have the Cram Test and I will probably try
> >> > > > it again next week.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Scotty
> >> > > >
> >> > > > "Ben" wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> "Scotty" <Scotty@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> > > >> news:4ED2BAB0-16A7-4E5A-882E-09A79563BA5A@microsoft.com...
> >> > > >> > I passed my CCNA, 2K Workstation & Server on my first
> >> > > >> > attempt but when I
> >> > > >> got
> >> > > >> > to the 70-216 I was blind sided by some of the questions.
> >> > > >> > Is
> > this
> >> > > >> > exam
> >> > > >> the
> >> > > >> > hardest of the MCSE 2000?
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Hey Scotty,
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Sorry to hear you failed, I took my 70-216 today and just
> >> > > >> managed
> > to
> >> > > >> pass with a score of 700 (see 3 posts below)
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> I found this the hardest so far, 210, 214, 215 and 218 were a
> > breeze
> >> > > >> compared to 216. However I have 217 and 221 coming up, and I'm
> >> > > >> expecting 221 (design exam) to be the hardest of the lot. I
> >> > > >> hear
> > you
> >> > > >> get a case study and you have to design a specification to a
> >> > > >> set of requirements.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> What questions did you get? Maybe simular to mine, lots of
> >> > > >> multicasting at the start?
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> I can only suggest reading lots of study guides and writting
> >> > > >> out
> > what
> >> > > >> you read, its the only way to get it to stick in your mind. Of
> > course
> >> > > >> the BEST way to revise is to have a live system to setup,
> > configure,
> >> > > >> troubleshoot & fix. Of course this isn't always possible, i.e.
> > where
> >> > > >> I work we have no need for multicasting, so I've not had
> >> > > >> chance to play with it! For study guides I'd recommend sybex
> >> > > >> or cram exam, I used mike myers but a lot of 70-216 wasn't
> >> > > >> covered in it!
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Ben
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Try the MS Press book. Also, read the relevant material in the
> > Windows
> >> > > 2000 Server Resource Kit, available online at:
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/2000/server/r
> >> esk
> >> > > it/en-us/default.asp
> >> > >
> >> > > or
> >> > >
> >> > > http://tinyurl.com/53egs
> >> > >
> >> > > And Ben is right, you really need to have a couple of computers
> >> > > to
> > play
> >> > > with. BTW: Round robin is a DNS feature that allows you to
> >> > > setup servers with the same name and different IP addresses and
> >> > > load balance web servers or RRAS servers.
> >> > >
> >> > > I passed this exam about 3 weeks ago with a good score (909) but
> >> > > I studied from three books (MS Press, Global Knowledge Certified
> >> > > Press,
> >> and
> >> > > the for Dummies book), read resource kit articles, kb articles,
> >> subnetted
> >> > > until I could do it in my sleep, and practiced/simulated as much
> >> > > as I could with two servers. This is not an exam you can just
> >> > > cram for (it
> >> is
> >> > > affectionately known as "The Beast"), you have to really know to
> >> > > do
> >> well.
> >> > > Good luck.
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Catwalker
> >> > > aka Pu$$y Feet
> >> > > BS, MCP
> >> > > MCNGP #43
> >> > > www.mcngp.com
> >> > >
> >> > > "Eat your cereal with a fork and do your homework in the dark."
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Rowdy Yates, MCNGP #39
> http://www.mcngp.com/
> "Shhhh... Do you smell that? I think is't Albanian Goat Smegma!"
> http://www.geocities.com/rowdy_yates_mcngp/
> http://www.geocities.com/rowdy_yates_mcngp/google.gif



Re: Failed 70-216 by Rowdy

Rowdy
Sat Feb 12 13:14:54 CST 2005

"The Rev \(MCT\)" <therev@nospam.com> wrote in news:OPVFehSEFHA.732
@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl:

>
> Yeah. I really miss DeployCenter

the symantec ghost product is a sweet product. once you get all the bells &
whistles working - it's a beauty.

--
Rowdy Yates, MCNGP #39
http://www.mcngp.com/
http://profiles.yahoo.com/rowdy_yates_mcngp

Re: Failed 70-216 by The

The
Sat Feb 12 13:22:18 CST 2005

I know I've got ghost, I just really liked the old Power Quest stuff. I'm
hoping they implement some of those features as Symantec continues to
develop their products

--
"The Rev" MCNGP #44
Microsoft Certified Trainer

Memories fade but a Google search never forgets.
justafreak.com
.
"Rowdy Yates" <rowdy_yates_mcngp@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95FB90F107EB9rowdyyates2124@207.46.248.16...
> "The Rev \(MCT\)" <therev@nospam.com> wrote in news:OPVFehSEFHA.732
> @TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl:
>
> >
> > Yeah. I really miss DeployCenter
>
> the symantec ghost product is a sweet product. once you get all the bells
&
> whistles working - it's a beauty.
>
> --
> Rowdy Yates, MCNGP #39
> http://www.mcngp.com/
> http://profiles.yahoo.com/rowdy_yates_mcngp



Re: Failed 70-216 by Scotty

Scotty
Mon Feb 14 08:23:07 CST 2005

Maybe my thinking is backwards, I was thinking that multicasting is sending
the same packet to several users. Is this not right?

"Rowdy Yates" wrote:

> "Preacher Man" <SLawson@bouldincorp.com> wrote in news:e28eTcIEFHA.3908
> @TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl:
>
> > Thanks. Could you give me some insights to multicasting? How it
> works,
> > implementation, etc?
> >
>
> one is called unicast. the other is called multicast.
>
> if you are a host and you know exactly where the service is located on
> the network - you will unicast to it.
>
> if you are a host and you don't know where the service is located - you
> will multicast to locate it on the network.
>
> what don't you understand about it?
>
> --
> Rowdy Yates, MCNGP #39
> http://www.mcngp.com/
> "Shhhh... Do you smell that? I think is't Albanian Goat Smegma!"
> http://www.geocities.com/rowdy_yates_mcngp/
> http://www.geocities.com/rowdy_yates_mcngp/google.gif
>

Re: Failed 70-216 by The

The
Mon Feb 14 09:05:51 CST 2005

Correct. In multicast you send the same packets (like live video streaming)
to a select number of endpoints as opposed to broadcast, which is just plain
bad. :) This way you can be selective as to who gets the packets.

--
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I may sound arrogant at times, but that's only because I'm always right.

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.
"Scotty" <Scotty@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:388E23DD-E14A-4EFF-A045-B3AFF789794E@microsoft.com...
> Maybe my thinking is backwards, I was thinking that multicasting is
sending
> the same packet to several users. Is this not right?
>
> "Rowdy Yates" wrote:
>
> > "Preacher Man" <SLawson@bouldincorp.com> wrote in news:e28eTcIEFHA.3908
> > @TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl:
> >
> > > Thanks. Could you give me some insights to multicasting? How it
> > works,
> > > implementation, etc?
> > >
> >
> > one is called unicast. the other is called multicast.
> >
> > if you are a host and you know exactly where the service is located on
> > the network - you will unicast to it.
> >
> > if you are a host and you don't know where the service is located - you
> > will multicast to locate it on the network.
> >
> > what don't you understand about it?
> >
> > --
> > Rowdy Yates, MCNGP #39
> > http://www.mcngp.com/
> > "Shhhh... Do you smell that? I think is't Albanian Goat Smegma!"
> > http://www.geocities.com/rowdy_yates_mcngp/
> > http://www.geocities.com/rowdy_yates_mcngp/google.gif
> >



Re: Failed 70-216 by Rowdy

Rowdy
Mon Feb 14 09:10:11 CST 2005

=?Utf-8?B?U2NvdHR5?= <Scotty@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
news:388E23DD-E14A-4EFF-A045-B3AFF789794E@microsoft.com:

> Maybe my thinking is backwards, I was thinking that multicasting is
> sending the same packet to several users. Is this not right?

you are right. i don't know what the hell i posted. i was a little drunk @
the time.

--
Rowdy Yates, MCNGP #39
http://www.mcngp.com/
"Shhhh... Do you smell that? I think is't Albanian Goat Smegma!"
http://www.geocities.com/rowdy_yates_mcngp/
http://www.geocities.com/rowdy_yates_mcngp/google.gif

Re: Failed 70-216 by Preacher

Preacher
Mon Feb 14 10:05:46 CST 2005

Do the endpoint users use the same Multicast IP Address or does the unique
rule still apply?
Also can you just add a secondary IP address to the NIC?


"The Rev (MCT)" <therev@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:%23K6NvaqEFHA.2180@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Correct. In multicast you send the same packets (like live video
streaming)
> to a select number of endpoints as opposed to broadcast, which is just
plain
> bad. :) This way you can be selective as to who gets the packets.
>
> --
> "The Rev" MCT/MCNGP #44
> I may sound arrogant at times, but that's only because I'm always right.
>
> Memories fade but a Google search never forgets.
> justafreak.com
> .
> "Scotty" <Scotty@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:388E23DD-E14A-4EFF-A045-B3AFF789794E@microsoft.com...
> > Maybe my thinking is backwards, I was thinking that multicasting is
> sending
> > the same packet to several users. Is this not right?
> >
> > "Rowdy Yates" wrote:
> >
> > > "Preacher Man" <SLawson@bouldincorp.com> wrote in
news:e28eTcIEFHA.3908
> > > @TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl:
> > >
> > > > Thanks. Could you give me some insights to multicasting? How it
> > > works,
> > > > implementation, etc?
> > > >
> > >
> > > one is called unicast. the other is called multicast.
> > >
> > > if you are a host and you know exactly where the service is located on
> > > the network - you will unicast to it.
> > >
> > > if you are a host and you don't know where the service is located -
you
> > > will multicast to locate it on the network.
> > >
> > > what don't you understand about it?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Rowdy Yates, MCNGP #39
> > > http://www.mcngp.com/
> > > "Shhhh... Do you smell that? I think is't Albanian Goat Smegma!"
> > > http://www.geocities.com/rowdy_yates_mcngp/
> > > http://www.geocities.com/rowdy_yates_mcngp/google.gif
> > >
>
>



Re: Failed 70-216 by The

The
Mon Feb 14 10:36:03 CST 2005

You endpoints all stream from the same source as for the secondary IP
address you can do that for multicast purposes. I usually recommend a
separate NIC all together but that does work as well.

--
"The Rev" MCT/MCNGP #44
I may sound arrogant at times, but that's only because I'm always right.

Memories fade but a Google search never forgets.
justafreak.com
.
"Preacher Man" <SLawson@bouldincorp.com> wrote in message
news:uTIJh9qEFHA.2156@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Do the endpoint users use the same Multicast IP Address or does the unique
> rule still apply?
> Also can you just add a secondary IP address to the NIC?
>
>
> "The Rev (MCT)" <therev@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:%23K6NvaqEFHA.2180@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > Correct. In multicast you send the same packets (like live video
> streaming)
> > to a select number of endpoints as opposed to broadcast, which is just
> plain
> > bad. :) This way you can be selective as to who gets the packets.
> >
> > --
> > "The Rev" MCT/MCNGP #44
> > I may sound arrogant at times, but that's only because I'm always right.
> >
> > Memories fade but a Google search never forgets.
> > justafreak.com
> > .
> > "Scotty" <Scotty@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:388E23DD-E14A-4EFF-A045-B3AFF789794E@microsoft.com...
> > > Maybe my thinking is backwards, I was thinking that multicasting is
> > sending
> > > the same packet to several users. Is this not right?
> > >
> > > "Rowdy Yates" wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Preacher Man" <SLawson@bouldincorp.com> wrote in
> news:e28eTcIEFHA.3908
> > > > @TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl:
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks. Could you give me some insights to multicasting? How it
> > > > works,
> > > > > implementation, etc?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > one is called unicast. the other is called multicast.
> > > >
> > > > if you are a host and you know exactly where the service is located
on
> > > > the network - you will unicast to it.
> > > >
> > > > if you are a host and you don't know where the service is located -
> you
> > > > will multicast to locate it on the network.
> > > >
> > > > what don't you understand about it?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Rowdy Yates, MCNGP #39
> > > > http://www.mcngp.com/
> > > > "Shhhh... Do you smell that? I think is't Albanian Goat Smegma!"
> > > > http://www.geocities.com/rowdy_yates_mcngp/
> > > > http://www.geocities.com/rowdy_yates_mcngp/google.gif
> > > >
> >
> >
>
>



Re: Failed 70-216 by Preacher

Preacher
Mon Feb 14 16:15:36 CST 2005

Is the same amount of bandwidth used for multicasting as it would be for
unicasting?

"The Rev (MCT)" <therev@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:eV7CJNrEFHA.480@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> You endpoints all stream from the same source as for the secondary IP
> address you can do that for multicast purposes. I usually recommend a
> separate NIC all together but that does work as well.
>
> --
> "The Rev" MCT/MCNGP #44
> I may sound arrogant at times, but that's only because I'm always right.
>
> Memories fade but a Google search never forgets.
> justafreak.com
> .
> "Preacher Man" <SLawson@bouldincorp.com> wrote in message
> news:uTIJh9qEFHA.2156@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > Do the endpoint users use the same Multicast IP Address or does the
unique
> > rule still apply?
> > Also can you just add a secondary IP address to the NIC?
> >
> >
> > "The Rev (MCT)" <therev@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:%23K6NvaqEFHA.2180@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > Correct. In multicast you send the same packets (like live video
> > streaming)
> > > to a select number of endpoints as opposed to broadcast, which is just
> > plain
> > > bad. :) This way you can be selective as to who gets the packets.
> > >
> > > --
> > > "The Rev" MCT/MCNGP #44
> > > I may sound arrogant at times, but that's only because I'm always
right.
> > >
> > > Memories fade but a Google search never forgets.
> > > justafreak.com
> > > .
> > > "Scotty" <Scotty@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:388E23DD-E14A-4EFF-A045-B3AFF789794E@microsoft.com...
> > > > Maybe my thinking is backwards, I was thinking that multicasting is
> > > sending
> > > > the same packet to several users. Is this not right?
> > > >
> > > > "Rowdy Yates" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > "Preacher Man" <SLawson@bouldincorp.com> wrote in
> > news:e28eTcIEFHA.3908
> > > > > @TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks. Could you give me some insights to multicasting? How
it
> > > > > works,
> > > > > > implementation, etc?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > one is called unicast. the other is called multicast.
> > > > >
> > > > > if you are a host and you know exactly where the service is
located
> on
> > > > > the network - you will unicast to it.
> > > > >
> > > > > if you are a host and you don't know where the service is
located -
> > you
> > > > > will multicast to locate it on the network.
> > > > >
> > > > > what don't you understand about it?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Rowdy Yates, MCNGP #39
> > > > > http://www.mcngp.com/
> > > > > "Shhhh... Do you smell that? I think is't Albanian Goat Smegma!"
> > > > > http://www.geocities.com/rowdy_yates_mcngp/
> > > > > http://www.geocities.com/rowdy_yates_mcngp/google.gif
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>



Re: Failed 70-216 by The

The
Mon Feb 14 17:22:26 CST 2005

That would depend on the network topology as well as what it is your
multicasting.

--
"The Rev" MCT/MCNGP #44
I may sound arrogant at times, but that's only because I'm always right.

Memories fade but a Google search never forgets.
justafreak.com
.
"Preacher Man" <SLawson@bouldincorp.com> wrote in message
news:#hDqLMuEFHA.1264@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Is the same amount of bandwidth used for multicasting as it would be for
> unicasting?
>
> "The Rev (MCT)" <therev@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:eV7CJNrEFHA.480@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > You endpoints all stream from the same source as for the secondary IP
> > address you can do that for multicast purposes. I usually recommend a
> > separate NIC all together but that does work as well.
> >
> > --
> > "The Rev" MCT/MCNGP #44
> > I may sound arrogant at times, but that's only because I'm always right.
> >
> > Memories fade but a Google search never forgets.
> > justafreak.com
> > .
> > "Preacher Man" <SLawson@bouldincorp.com> wrote in message
> > news:uTIJh9qEFHA.2156@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > Do the endpoint users use the same Multicast IP Address or does the
> unique
> > > rule still apply?
> > > Also can you just add a secondary IP address to the NIC?
> > >
> > >
> > > "The Rev (MCT)" <therev@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:%23K6NvaqEFHA.2180@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > > Correct. In multicast you send the same packets (like live video
> > > streaming)
> > > > to a select number of endpoints as opposed to broadcast, which is
just
> > > plain
> > > > bad. :) This way you can be selective as to who gets the packets.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > "The Rev" MCT/MCNGP #44
> > > > I may sound arrogant at times, but that's only because I'm always
> right.
> > > >
> > > > Memories fade but a Google search never forgets.
> > > > justafreak.com
> > > > .
> > > > "Scotty" <Scotty@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:388E23DD-E14A-4EFF-A045-B3AFF789794E@microsoft.com...
> > > > > Maybe my thinking is backwards, I was thinking that multicasting
is
> > > > sending
> > > > > the same packet to several users. Is this not right?
> > > > >
> > > > > "Rowdy Yates" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > "Preacher Man" <SLawson@bouldincorp.com> wrote in
> > > news:e28eTcIEFHA.3908
> > > > > > @TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks. Could you give me some insights to multicasting? How
> it
> > > > > > works,
> > > > > > > implementation, etc?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > one is called unicast. the other is called multicast.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > if you are a host and you know exactly where the service is
> located
> > on
> > > > > > the network - you will unicast to it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > if you are a host and you don't know where the service is
> located -
> > > you
> > > > > > will multicast to locate it on the network.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > what don't you understand about it?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Rowdy Yates, MCNGP #39
> > > > > > http://www.mcngp.com/
> > > > > > "Shhhh... Do you smell that? I think is't Albanian Goat Smegma!"
> > > > > > http://www.geocities.com/rowdy_yates_mcngp/
> > > > > > http://www.geocities.com/rowdy_yates_mcngp/google.gif
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>



Re: Failed 70-216 by Preacher

Preacher
Tue Feb 15 09:32:03 CST 2005

Could anyone point me to a sample multicasting setup for Windows 2000?
Thanks.


"The Rev (MCT)" <therev@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:%23M9JPwuEFHA.3908@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> That would depend on the network topology as well as what it is your
> multicasting.
>
> --
> "The Rev" MCT/MCNGP #44
> I may sound arrogant at times, but that's only because I'm always right.
>
> Memories fade but a Google search never forgets.
> justafreak.com
> .
> "Preacher Man" <SLawson@bouldincorp.com> wrote in message
> news:#hDqLMuEFHA.1264@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > Is the same amount of bandwidth used for multicasting as it would be for
> > unicasting?
> >
> > "The Rev (MCT)" <therev@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:eV7CJNrEFHA.480@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > You endpoints all stream from the same source as for the secondary IP
> > > address you can do that for multicast purposes. I usually recommend a
> > > separate NIC all together but that does work as well.
> > >
> > > --
> > > "The Rev" MCT/MCNGP #44
> > > I may sound arrogant at times, but that's only because I'm always
right.
> > >
> > > Memories fade but a Google search never forgets.
> > > justafreak.com
> > > .
> > > "Preacher Man" <SLawson@bouldincorp.com> wrote in message
> > > news:uTIJh9qEFHA.2156@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > > Do the endpoint users use the same Multicast IP Address or does t