Exam 70-270 failed

Dear all,

I work hard this last 6 monthe to studdy all chapter of
the MCSE training Kit of windows Xp professionnal, I have
done many times the embeded test simulation at 98%.
I was then sad to see that I have failed the exam with the
score of 650 and mark was 700 so really close to get it.

UI jhave notice that a lot of question was not even
discuss in the trianing Kit and was surprise to get them
and a lot of question around, networking, VPN and security
and I guest that questions range point was high...

I will plann to pass it again soon, can I get some advise
from you and to approach best this second stage?

DO u know the the minimum score of 700 is always the same
whatever the question series or does it depends on the
questions.

Thanks for your support
Serge

Jans
Tue Dec 02 09:19:41 CST 2003

You must study hard baby.....
if you fail the exam is becouse you don't know WinXP...
obviously

fool.

>-----Original Message-----
>Dear all,
>
>I work hard this last 6 monthe to studdy all chapter of
>the MCSE training Kit of windows Xp professionnal, I have
>done many times the embeded test simulation at 98%.
>I was then sad to see that I have failed the exam with
the
>score of 650 and mark was 700 so really close to get it.
>
>UI jhave notice that a lot of question was not even
>discuss in the trianing Kit and was surprise to get them
>and a lot of question around, networking, VPN and
security
>and I guest that questions range point was high...
>
>I will plann to pass it again soon, can I get some advise
>from you and to approach best this second stage?
>
>DO u know the the minimum score of 700 is always the same
>whatever the question series or does it depends on the
>questions.
>
>Thanks for your support
>Serge
>.
>

Plain
Tue Dec 02 09:20:06 CST 2003

Serge:
You come very close to pass! The problem with the
training kit's questions and answers are they are too
simple. If you buy the 70-270 Exam Readiness Review from
Microsoft, the questions are more difficult! After you
complete that try a more realistic exam simulator,
Transcender, they have an online version called TransCram
and it is only $29 for 72 hours.
I am sure you will pass on the second try!
Good luck!
Jane
>-----Original Message-----
>Dear all,
>
>I work hard this last 6 monthe to studdy all chapter of
>the MCSE training Kit of windows Xp professionnal, I
have
>done many times the embeded test simulation at 98%.
>I was then sad to see that I have failed the exam with
the
>score of 650 and mark was 700 so really close to get it.
>
>UI jhave notice that a lot of question was not even
>discuss in the trianing Kit and was surprise to get them
>and a lot of question around, networking, VPN and
security
>and I guest that questions range point was high...
>
>I will plann to pass it again soon, can I get some
advise
>from you and to approach best this second stage?
>
>DO u know the the minimum score of 700 is always the
same
>whatever the question series or does it depends on the
>questions.
>
>Thanks for your support
>Serge
>.
>

anonymous
Tue Dec 02 09:47:40 CST 2003

Thnaks for you comments JAne,
I have actually the readines review of microsoft and the
problem with such question is that after a while you kow
the questionand answer by heart.
I will have a look on transcender you mentionned.

By the way do u know if the pass score is always the same
whatever the question series?

thnaks agin
serge
>-----Original Message-----
>Serge:
> You come very close to pass! The problem with the
>training kit's questions and answers are they are too
>simple. If you buy the 70-270 Exam Readiness Review from
>Microsoft, the questions are more difficult! After you
>complete that try a more realistic exam simulator,
>Transcender, they have an online version called TransCram
>and it is only $29 for 72 hours.
> I am sure you will pass on the second try!
> Good luck!
>Jane
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Dear all,
>>
>>I work hard this last 6 monthe to studdy all chapter of
>>the MCSE training Kit of windows Xp professionnal, I
>have
>>done many times the embeded test simulation at 98%.
>>I was then sad to see that I have failed the exam with
>the
>>score of 650 and mark was 700 so really close to get it.
>>
>>UI jhave notice that a lot of question was not even
>>discuss in the trianing Kit and was surprise to get them
>>and a lot of question around, networking, VPN and
>security
>>and I guest that questions range point was high...
>>
>>I will plann to pass it again soon, can I get some
>advise
>>from you and to approach best this second stage?
>>
>>DO u know the the minimum score of 700 is always the
>same
>>whatever the question series or does it depends on the
>>questions.
>>
>>Thanks for your support
>>Serge
>>.
>>
>.
>

Plain
Tue Dec 02 10:47:36 CST 2003

Yes. In my exam score it stated 700 is the passing
score. Several of my friends confirmed that also. I had
the same problem with readiness review. That is why you
need a third source! The first is from the Training Kit,
second from Readiness Review and a third from an
independent source. Hopefully in increasing degree of
difficulty.

I tried Prelogic's test simulation. But the questions
were relatively simple. There are others like MeasureUP,
Self-Test. But the best is TransCram. It is online and
you don't want to keep the test after the exam.

One more time, Good Luck! So close yet so far!

>-----Original Message-----
>Thnaks for you comments JAne,
>I have actually the readines review of microsoft and the
>problem with such question is that after a while you kow
>the questionand answer by heart.
>I will have a look on transcender you mentionned.
>
>By the way do u know if the pass score is always the
same
>whatever the question series?
>
>thnaks agin
>serge
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Serge:
>> You come very close to pass! The problem with the
>>training kit's questions and answers are they are too
>>simple. If you buy the 70-270 Exam Readiness Review
from
>>Microsoft, the questions are more difficult! After you
>>complete that try a more realistic exam simulator,
>>Transcender, they have an online version called
TransCram
>>and it is only $29 for 72 hours.
>> I am sure you will pass on the second try!
>> Good luck!
>>Jane
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Dear all,
>>>
>>>I work hard this last 6 monthe to studdy all chapter
of
>>>the MCSE training Kit of windows Xp professionnal, I
>>have
>>>done many times the embeded test simulation at 98%.
>>>I was then sad to see that I have failed the exam with
>>the
>>>score of 650 and mark was 700 so really close to get
it.
>>>
>>>UI jhave notice that a lot of question was not even
>>>discuss in the trianing Kit and was surprise to get
them
>>>and a lot of question around, networking, VPN and
>>security
>>>and I guest that questions range point was high...
>>>
>>>I will plann to pass it again soon, can I get some
>>advise
>>>from you and to approach best this second stage?
>>>
>>>DO u know the the minimum score of 700 is always the
>>same
>>>whatever the question series or does it depends on the
>>>questions.
>>>
>>>Thanks for your support
>>>Serge
>>>.
>>>
>>.
>>
>.
>

Vincent
Tue Dec 02 11:56:46 CST 2003

Hi,

It is not unusual to get a fail even you relied on the
Microsoft offical guide. I got the core MCSE 2003 guide,
however, it cover just about 90% of the exams. Therefore
if you are not very familiar with the content or you are
not an exprienced engineer, you got a fail.

All I suggest is try more simulation questions on web or
even buy some third party questions. Some of the
questions are highly related to real exams questions. Pay
for the simulation and you save your time and exam fee. I
try those questions and get 3 exams passed in less than a
month.

Vincent

>-----Original Message-----
>Dear all,
>
>I work hard this last 6 monthe to studdy all chapter of
>the MCSE training Kit of windows Xp professionnal, I
have
>done many times the embeded test simulation at 98%.
>I was then sad to see that I have failed the exam with
the
>score of 650 and mark was 700 so really close to get it.
>
>UI jhave notice that a lot of question was not even
>discuss in the trianing Kit and was surprise to get them
>and a lot of question around, networking, VPN and
security
>and I guest that questions range point was high...
>
>I will plann to pass it again soon, can I get some
advise
>from you and to approach best this second stage?
>
>DO u know the the minimum score of 700 is always the
same
>whatever the question series or does it depends on the
>questions.
>
>Thanks for your support
>Serge
>.
>

anonymous
Tue Dec 02 15:01:33 CST 2003

It took you 6 months to study for 270? study harder then.
I started studying a month ago, and in the mean time i
passed exams 210,215 and 216.

Just study harder!

BSoD


>-----Original Message-----
>Hi,
>
>It is not unusual to get a fail even you relied on the
>Microsoft offical guide. I got the core MCSE 2003 guide,
>however, it cover just about 90% of the exams. Therefore
>if you are not very familiar with the content or you are
>not an exprienced engineer, you got a fail.
>
>All I suggest is try more simulation questions on web or
>even buy some third party questions. Some of the
>questions are highly related to real exams questions. Pay
>for the simulation and you save your time and exam fee. I
>try those questions and get 3 exams passed in less than a
>month.
>
>Vincent
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Dear all,
>>
>>I work hard this last 6 monthe to studdy all chapter of
>>the MCSE training Kit of windows Xp professionnal, I
>have
>>done many times the embeded test simulation at 98%.
>>I was then sad to see that I have failed the exam with
>the
>>score of 650 and mark was 700 so really close to get it.
>>
>>UI jhave notice that a lot of question was not even
>>discuss in the trianing Kit and was surprise to get them
>>and a lot of question around, networking, VPN and
>security
>>and I guest that questions range point was high...
>>
>>I will plann to pass it again soon, can I get some
>advise
>>from you and to approach best this second stage?
>>
>>DO u know the the minimum score of 700 is always the
>same
>>whatever the question series or does it depends on the
>>questions.
>>
>>Thanks for your support
>>Serge
>>.
>>
>.
>

anonymous
Tue Dec 02 19:18:00 CST 2003

Refer TK materials for succsess

>-----Original Message-----
>Dear all,
>
>I work hard this last 6 monthe to studdy all chapter of
>the MCSE training Kit of windows Xp professionnal, I have
>done many times the embeded test simulation at 98%.
>I was then sad to see that I have failed the exam with
the
>score of 650 and mark was 700 so really close to get it.
>
>UI jhave notice that a lot of question was not even
>discuss in the trianing Kit and was surprise to get them
>and a lot of question around, networking, VPN and
security
>and I guest that questions range point was high...
>
>I will plann to pass it again soon, can I get some advise
>from you and to approach best this second stage?
>
>DO u know the the minimum score of 700 is always the same
>whatever the question series or does it depends on the
>questions.
>
>Thanks for your support
>Serge
>.
>

jones_netng
Wed Dec 03 07:13:10 CST 2003

"serge calderara" <serge.calderara@maillefer.net> wrote in message > UI jhave notice that a lot of question was not even
> discuss in the trianing Kit and was surprise to get them
> and a lot of question around, networking, VPN and security
> and I guest that questions range point was high...

I have just passed this 2 weeks ago, and I experienced the same about
the missing information.
The problem is, that the MS Training kit doesn't tell you about all
the exceptions from normal, and they don't tell you about the command
line version of the GUI programmes.
A guy from my exam told that he had 16 questions saying "which command
would you use if..." He knew what to do i a GUI interface, but he
didn't knew the command line name... They are not mentioned in the
Traning Kit:-(
You have to read the Windows XP Resource Kit on this page:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/TechNet/prodtechnol/winxppro/reskit/prork_overview.asp

And yes, it's about 400 normal pages, so have fun:-/

I didn't read the entire kit, because I had som videos called CBT
Nuggets which were bassed on the Kit (they were included in the price,
so I can't tell you the price)


> DO u know the the minimum score of 700 is always the same
> whatever the question series or does it depends on the
> questions.

The minimum score i 700 everytime.

/J

sergge
Wed Dec 03 09:10:18 CST 2003

When I say that it tooks 6 months its becasue I am also
woerking during all days and as my company do not want to
pay attention to such certification I ^had to handle it my
self during my few spare time. so it was about 2 hours per
night and not easy when you have familly. so that explain
why so lomg


>-----Original Message-----
>It took you 6 months to study for 270? study harder then.
>I started studying a month ago, and in the mean time i
>passed exams 210,215 and 216.
>
>Just study harder!
>
>BSoD
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Hi,
>>
>>It is not unusual to get a fail even you relied on the
>>Microsoft offical guide. I got the core MCSE 2003 guide,
>>however, it cover just about 90% of the exams. Therefore
>>if you are not very familiar with the content or you are
>>not an exprienced engineer, you got a fail.
>>
>>All I suggest is try more simulation questions on web or
>>even buy some third party questions. Some of the
>>questions are highly related to real exams questions.
Pay
>>for the simulation and you save your time and exam fee.
I
>>try those questions and get 3 exams passed in less than
a
>>month.
>>
>>Vincent
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Dear all,
>>>
>>>I work hard this last 6 monthe to studdy all chapter of
>>>the MCSE training Kit of windows Xp professionnal, I
>>have
>>>done many times the embeded test simulation at 98%.
>>>I was then sad to see that I have failed the exam with
>>the
>>>score of 650 and mark was 700 so really close to get it.
>>>
>>>UI jhave notice that a lot of question was not even
>>>discuss in the trianing Kit and was surprise to get
them
>>>and a lot of question around, networking, VPN and
>>security
>>>and I guest that questions range point was high...
>>>
>>>I will plann to pass it again soon, can I get some
>>advise
>>>from you and to approach best this second stage?
>>>
>>>DO u know the the minimum score of 700 is always the
>>same
>>>whatever the question series or does it depends on the
>>>questions.
>>>
>>>Thanks for your support
>>>Serge
>>>.
>>>
>>.
>>
>.
>

wallace
Wed Dec 03 15:45:03 CST 2003

You must be prepared and expect the unexpected.

The exam will cover the material - and also stuff you may never have
heard of! You might say that this isn't fair. But then life itself
isn't fair..

Out there, in the real world, you're going to be faced with weird
stuff that isn't strictly in the scope of what you are supposed to
know.

So you need to know the Resource Kit, and a great deal of background
information on supporting Microsoft products before you can pass the
exam. It's what sorts the men from the boys.

Yoshi





On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:01:26 -0800, "serge calderara"
<serge.calderara@maillefer.net> wrote:

>Dear all,
>
>I work hard this last 6 monthe to studdy all chapter of
>the MCSE training Kit of windows Xp professionnal, I have
>done many times the embeded test simulation at 98%.
>I was then sad to see that I have failed the exam with the
>score of 650 and mark was 700 so really close to get it.
>
>UI jhave notice that a lot of question was not even
>discuss in the trianing Kit and was surprise to get them
>and a lot of question around, networking, VPN and security
>and I guest that questions range point was high...
>
>I will plann to pass it again soon, can I get some advise
>from you and to approach best this second stage?
>
>DO u know the the minimum score of 700 is always the same
>whatever the question series or does it depends on the
>questions.
>
>Thanks for your support
>Serge

Hiro
Wed Dec 03 16:48:38 CST 2003

Hi!
>-----Original Message-----
>Yes. In my exam score it stated 700 is the passing
>score. Several of my friends confirmed that also.

Since Microsoft changed their scoring policy, nearly all
exams will be passed with 700. The difference between the
exams will be the the scor you can totally reach.

An exam with 700 of 1000 is much easier to pass than
someone with 700 of 800!

And Microsoft doesn't provide us with information about
the maximum reachable score.

We have to collect passing scores from passers, not saw
such a poll yet.

cu hiro

Barbas
Wed Dec 03 17:50:45 CST 2003

You're doing something wrong...

One thing is studing to understand the subject which you
should allways do, but also you have to prepare yourself
for the exam which is a completly diferent thing.

I've started MOC 6 months ago and just got my MCSE, 7
exams later all sucessfull.

I also have a job and a family and also study 3 hours per
day plus quite a few more on weekends.

I think you have a study method issue.

I can tell you what method worked for me.

1-study so you understand the subjects
from ms press/sybex/whatever books
also try to do some hands on pratice
2-study test kings
this is very important, these study guides will both
teach you something and prepare you for the exam.
3-study on simulations
get your self some simulated computer tests, either on
line or not, try the measureup if you realy want to know
how dificult an exam question can be.
4-get back to testking for consolidation

you're ready!!!

Cheers

Barbas@netcabo.pt


>-----Original Message-----
>Dear all,
>
>I work hard this last 6 monthe to studdy all chapter of
>the MCSE training Kit of windows Xp professionnal, I have
>done many times the embeded test simulation at 98%.
>I was then sad to see that I have failed the exam with
the
>score of 650 and mark was 700 so really close to get it.
>
>UI jhave notice that a lot of question was not even
>discuss in the trianing Kit and was surprise to get them
>and a lot of question around, networking, VPN and
security
>and I guest that questions range point was high...
>
>I will plann to pass it again soon, can I get some advise
>from you and to approach best this second stage?
>
>DO u know the the minimum score of 700 is always the same
>whatever the question series or does it depends on the
>questions.
>
>Thanks for your support
>Serge
>.
>

Larry
Wed Dec 03 18:03:27 CST 2003

Stay the hell away from TestKing - a certification "earned" using brain
dumps isn't worth the paper it is printed on.

--
Larry Samuels MS-MVP (Windows-Shell/User)
Associate Expert
Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
http://home.earthlink.net/~larrysamuels/WS2003FAQ.htm
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
"Barbas" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0c4501c3b9f8$449e9f60$a001280a@phx.gbl...
> You're doing something wrong...
>
> One thing is studing to understand the subject which you
> should allways do, but also you have to prepare yourself
> for the exam which is a completly diferent thing.
>
> I've started MOC 6 months ago and just got my MCSE, 7
> exams later all sucessfull.
>
> I also have a job and a family and also study 3 hours per
> day plus quite a few more on weekends.
>
> I think you have a study method issue.
>
> I can tell you what method worked for me.
>
> 1-study so you understand the subjects
> from ms press/sybex/whatever books
> also try to do some hands on pratice
> 2-study test kings
> this is very important, these study guides will both
> teach you something and prepare you for the exam.
> 3-study on simulations
> get your self some simulated computer tests, either on
> line or not, try the measureup if you realy want to know
> how dificult an exam question can be.
> 4-get back to testking for consolidation
>
> you're ready!!!
>
> Cheers
>
> Barbas@netcabo.pt
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Dear all,
> >
> >I work hard this last 6 monthe to studdy all chapter of
> >the MCSE training Kit of windows Xp professionnal, I have
> >done many times the embeded test simulation at 98%.
> >I was then sad to see that I have failed the exam with
> the
> >score of 650 and mark was 700 so really close to get it.
> >
> >UI jhave notice that a lot of question was not even
> >discuss in the trianing Kit and was surprise to get them
> >and a lot of question around, networking, VPN and
> security
> >and I guest that questions range point was high...
> >
> >I will plann to pass it again soon, can I get some advise
> >from you and to approach best this second stage?
> >
> >DO u know the the minimum score of 700 is always the same
> >whatever the question series or does it depends on the
> >questions.
> >
> >Thanks for your support
> >Serge
> >.
> >

Jennifer
Thu Dec 04 01:00:29 CST 2003

Hi

I just enrolled MCSE Win2K course and try to pass all
required exam by the middle of next year.
You mentioned that some simulation exams helpled you a
lot. I would appreciate it very much if you could
recommend me some of those precious simulation exams.

Thanks a lot
Jennifer
email: jennifer@tevn.com


>-----Original Message-----
>Hi,
>
>It is not unusual to get a fail even you relied on the
>Microsoft offical guide. I got the core MCSE 2003 guide,
>however, it cover just about 90% of the exams. Therefore
>if you are not very familiar with the content or you are
>not an exprienced engineer, you got a fail.
>
>All I suggest is try more simulation questions on web or
>even buy some third party questions. Some of the
>questions are highly related to real exams questions.
Pay
>for the simulation and you save your time and exam fee.
I
>try those questions and get 3 exams passed in less than
a
>month.
>
>Vincent
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Dear all,
>>
>>I work hard this last 6 monthe to studdy all chapter of
>>the MCSE training Kit of windows Xp professionnal, I
>have
>>done many times the embeded test simulation at 98%.
>>I was then sad to see that I have failed the exam with
>the
>>score of 650 and mark was 700 so really close to get it.
>>
>>UI jhave notice that a lot of question was not even
>>discuss in the trianing Kit and was surprise to get
them
>>and a lot of question around, networking, VPN and
>security
>>and I guest that questions range point was high...
>>
>>I will plann to pass it again soon, can I get some
>advise
>>from you and to approach best this second stage?
>>
>>DO u know the the minimum score of 700 is always the
>same
>>whatever the question series or does it depends on the
>>questions.
>>
>>Thanks for your support
>>Serge
>>.
>>
>.
>