Dear All,

I`m new to newsgroups postings I been reading about these braindumps just to
pass the exam. Why Cheat? I say, you are only cheating on yourself. Yes you
might get an interview because you have mcse on your CV but when it comes to
the crunch at an interview the intervier will know you made yourself look
stupid.

Then they certainly will not want you.

It has taken me 12 months to achieve MCP`s x2 CCA.
Windows Workstation 2000 Exam 70-210, Windows 2000 Server Exam 70-215. I
studied for two hours each night until I got it right I also brought the two
exams from selftest software to get an idea of my level. Once I got 90% or
higher I went for the test. And passed.

At my age which is 40 it is hard to study you have to make an effort, I
enjoyed doing it and now I shall progress for my MCSE. because I can. I am
also dyslexic it has helped me in that as well.

Work hard put the effort in you will be amazsed at what you can achieve
through hard work.


James






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Re: Why Cheat ? by Ken

Ken
Thu Dec 04 14:49:29 CST 2003

<snip>

Agreed on all counts. Don't do drugs. Don't do dumps. Congrats on the
certs.

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Re: Why Cheat ? by Paul

Paul
Thu Dec 04 14:49:03 CST 2003

On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:36:36 -0000, "Jimbo" <news@n.com> wrote:

>Dear All,
>
>I`m new to newsgroups postings I been reading about these braindumps just to
>pass the exam. Why Cheat? I say, you are only cheating on yourself. Yes you
>might get an interview because you have mcse on your CV but when it comes to
>the crunch at an interview the intervier will know you made yourself look
>stupid.
>
>Then they certainly will not want you.
>
>It has taken me 12 months to achieve MCP`s x2 CCA.
>Windows Workstation 2000 Exam 70-210, Windows 2000 Server Exam 70-215. I
>studied for two hours each night until I got it right I also brought the two
>exams from selftest software to get an idea of my level. Once I got 90% or
>higher I went for the test. And passed.
>
>At my age which is 40 it is hard to study you have to make an effort, I
>enjoyed doing it and now I shall progress for my MCSE. because I can. I am
>also dyslexic it has helped me in that as well.
>
>Work hard put the effort in you will be amazsed at what you can achieve
>through hard work.
>
>
>James

Well said James. You won't find many people here disagreeing with you.

You know, its no coincidence that the people you tend to find on the
various newsgroups and forums are the ones who are often to be found
asking about braindumps and key codes for exam software.

Have a look on the MCDBA ng and you'll see what I mean...


Regards,

Paul Lynch
MCSE

Re: Why Cheat ? by Main

Main
Thu Dec 04 15:00:20 CST 2003

Are braindumps cheating?

I use all sorts of materials to prepare and I am learning this stuff. I am
44 with a programming background. I got my A+ a few months ago and will take
70-210 this Sat. Over the years I have done many of the operations I am
studying about but reading endlessly abount Win2000 Installations and
troubleshooting is borrrrrring. I don't think you can pass these tests with
out some real world experience anyway. Just learing the answers to the
questions without then understanding won't get you very far IMHO.



Re: Why Cheat ? by Consultant

Consultant
Thu Dec 04 15:02:58 CST 2003

just say no

"Jimbo" <news@n.com> wrote in message news:3fcf9a81_8@corp.newsgroups.com...
> Dear All,
>
> I`m new to newsgroups postings I been reading about these braindumps just
to
> pass the exam. Why Cheat? I say, you are only cheating on yourself. Yes
you
> might get an interview because you have mcse on your CV but when it comes
to
> the crunch at an interview the intervier will know you made yourself look
> stupid.
>
> Then they certainly will not want you.
>
> It has taken me 12 months to achieve MCP`s x2 CCA.
> Windows Workstation 2000 Exam 70-210, Windows 2000 Server Exam 70-215. I
> studied for two hours each night until I got it right I also brought the
two
> exams from selftest software to get an idea of my level. Once I got 90% or
> higher I went for the test. And passed.
>
> At my age which is 40 it is hard to study you have to make an effort, I
> enjoyed doing it and now I shall progress for my MCSE. because I can. I am
> also dyslexic it has helped me in that as well.
>
> Work hard put the effort in you will be amazsed at what you can achieve
> through hard work.
>
>
> James
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Why Cheat ? by Paul

Paul
Thu Dec 04 15:28:39 CST 2003

On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:00:20 -0600, "Main Identity" <me@homealone.com>
wrote:

>Are braindumps cheating?

Yes. If you passed a college exam using a list of answers you had
'obtained' from someone who had already taken the same exam would you
consider yourself 'qualified' or just a cheat ?


Regards,

Paul Lynch
MCSE

Re: Why Cheat ? by Jimbo

Jimbo
Thu Dec 04 15:33:08 CST 2003



Yes Main Identity you are cheating, why should you have an edge different
from anybody else before you take the test.
If the questions are the same I`m not sure. People say they are the general
consensus.

a, It is breaking the NDR you say Yes to when you take the exam.

b, You are cheating yourself.

c, If you know your subject then why look a Braindumps.


I also use a lot of materials to study from Sybex Books, and their CBT Study
Guides, And I subscribe to TechNet Plus on a yearly basis.

I also use the information from Microsoft site, which tells me what I shall
be expected to know in the exam that I am taking.

I work in IT as 3rd line support, so there is a lot of hands on, we still
use nt4 and shall be going to windows 200? 2000 or 2003 in feb of next year.
this will be our first 2000 Domain. It will raise may questions with the
team I work with. However as I said earlier through hard work and study we
shall prevail.

James



>Are braindumps cheating?



"Main Identity" <me@homealone.com> wrote in message
news:O4TmQmquDHA.2340@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Are braindumps cheating?
>
> I use all sorts of materials to prepare and I am learning this stuff. I
am
> 44 with a programming background. I got my A+ a few months ago and will
take
> 70-210 this Sat. Over the years I have done many of the operations I am
> studying about but reading endlessly abount Win2000 Installations and
> troubleshooting is borrrrrring. I don't think you can pass these tests
with
> out some real world experience anyway. Just learing the answers to the
> questions without then understanding won't get you very far IMHO.
>
>




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Re: Why Cheat ? by Main

Main
Thu Dec 04 15:48:17 CST 2003

Well thanks for clearing that up. I don't want to be considered a
'cheater'. I was thinking of braindumps as one of many resources, you know,
to get a 'feel' for the test. I have really not used them extensively at
all. My wife is a teacher and her and I often discuss the problem of many
teachers 'teaching the test'. No real learning occurs and the kids pass to
the detriment of all.

now i feel clean again



Re: Why Cheat ? by Ken

Ken
Thu Dec 04 15:55:16 CST 2003

> now i feel clean again

Whereas I feel really dirty. Sue? You here? I'm dirty. <G>

--

KB - MCNGP #26

first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com



Re: Why Cheat ? by Consultant

Consultant
Thu Dec 04 16:01:07 CST 2003

aren't you glad you used dial?


"Main Identity" <me@homealone.com> wrote in message
news:uyqdDBruDHA.3144@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Well thanks for clearing that up. I don't want to be considered a
> 'cheater'. I was thinking of braindumps as one of many resources, you
know,
> to get a 'feel' for the test. I have really not used them extensively at
> all. My wife is a teacher and her and I often discuss the problem of many
> teachers 'teaching the test'. No real learning occurs and the kids pass
to
> the detriment of all.
>
> now i feel clean again
>
>



Re: Why Cheat ? by Brat

Brat
Thu Dec 04 16:23:38 CST 2003

"Ken Briscoe" <youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in message
news:%23kgwQFruDHA.1576@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > now i feel clean again
>
> Whereas I feel really dirty. Sue? You here? I'm dirty. <G>
>

You are always dirty... I can't help you there... do I look like Mr. Clean
to you? No wait... don't answer that. Point is, I cannot help what cannot
be cleaned :P

> --
>
> KB - MCNGP #26
>
> first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com
>
>



Re: Why Cheat ? by Brat

Brat
Thu Dec 04 16:33:29 CST 2003

ss Purge Ken's dirt
/-I-hehehttp://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/gui
des/html/vsgrfss_purge.aspnow you are cleanYour welcome :)"Ken Briscoe"
<youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in message
news:%23kgwQFruDHA.1576@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...> > now i feel clean again
>
> Whereas I feel really dirty. Sue? You here? I'm dirty. <G>
>
> --
>
> KB - MCNGP #26
>
> first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com
>
>



Re: Why Cheat ? by Brat

Brat
Thu Dec 04 16:35:42 CST 2003

lets try that again...

ss Purge Ken's dirt /-I-

hehe

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/guides/html/vsgrfss_purge.asp

now you are clean

Your welcome :)

"Brat" <likeIwouldtellyou@inyourdreams.com> wrote in message
news:bqoco9$kcs$1@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net...
> ss Purge Ken's dirt
>
/-I-hehehttp://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/gui
> des/html/vsgrfss_purge.aspnow you are cleanYour welcome :)"Ken Briscoe"
> <youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in message
> news:%23kgwQFruDHA.1576@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...> > now i feel clean again
> >
> > Whereas I feel really dirty. Sue? You here? I'm dirty. <G>
> >
> > --
> >
> > KB - MCNGP #26
> >
> > first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com
> >
> >
>
>



Re: Why Cheat ? by Ken

Ken
Thu Dec 04 18:39:49 CST 2003

> ss Purge Ken's dirt /-I-

ss Recover MyDirt -I-


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"Brat" <likeIwouldtellyou@inyourdreams.com> wrote in message
news:bqocse$kdh$1@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net...
> lets try that again...
>

>
> hehe
>
>
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/guides/html
/vsgrfss_purge.asp
>
> now you are clean
>
> Your welcome :)
>
> "Brat" <likeIwouldtellyou@inyourdreams.com> wrote in message
> news:bqoco9$kcs$1@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net...
> > ss Purge Ken's dirt
> >
>
/-I-hehehttp://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/gui
> > des/html/vsgrfss_purge.aspnow you are cleanYour welcome :)"Ken Briscoe"
> > <youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in message
> > news:%23kgwQFruDHA.1576@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...> > now i feel clean
again
> > >
> > > Whereas I feel really dirty. Sue? You here? I'm dirty. <G>
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > KB - MCNGP #26
> > >
> > > first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>


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Re: Why Cheat ? by Brat

Brat
Thu Dec 04 20:01:42 CST 2003

"Ken Briscoe" <youcant@sendmespam.invalid> wrote in message
news:uN5M7gsuDHA.3144@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > ss Purge Ken's dirt /-I-
>
> ss Recover MyDirt -I-
>

now what is the point of cleaning if you are only gonna redirtify (lol made
that one up myself)



Re: Why Cheat ? by Jeff

Jeff
Fri Dec 05 11:56:55 CST 2003

But it get's you in the door and most managers don't know what their
employees do for a living. Cheating is easier and faster then doing it
right.

It's still wrong but it's easier then timee and inclination to study.

Reality - What a concept.

Jeff

"Jimbo" <news@n.com> wrote in message news:3fcf9a81_8@corp.newsgroups.com...
> Dear All,
>
> I`m new to newsgroups postings I been reading about these braindumps just
to
> pass the exam. Why Cheat? I say, you are only cheating on yourself. Yes
you
> might get an interview because you have mcse on your CV but when it comes
to
> the crunch at an interview the intervier will know you made yourself look
> stupid.
>
> Then they certainly will not want you.
>
> It has taken me 12 months to achieve MCP`s x2 CCA.
> Windows Workstation 2000 Exam 70-210, Windows 2000 Server Exam 70-215. I
> studied for two hours each night until I got it right I also brought the
two
> exams from selftest software to get an idea of my level. Once I got 90% or
> higher I went for the test. And passed.
>
> At my age which is 40 it is hard to study you have to make an effort, I
> enjoyed doing it and now I shall progress for my MCSE. because I can. I am
> also dyslexic it has helped me in that as well.
>
> Work hard put the effort in you will be amazsed at what you can achieve
> through hard work.
>
>
> James
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Why Cheat ? by anonymous

anonymous
Fri Dec 05 20:08:20 CST 2003

there is no longer an unfair edge since using braindumps
has become so common place.

And you do not break the NDA using the dumps, only by
providing information to create the dumps, i.e.
braindumping. An NDA can't apply to actions takeb BEFORE
the NDA, that is normal law.
>-----Original Message-----
>
>
>Yes Main Identity you are cheating, why should you have
an edge different
>from anybody else before you take the test.
>If the questions are the same I`m not sure. People say
they are the general
>consensus.
>
>a, It is breaking the NDR you say Yes to when you take
the exam.
>
>b, You are cheating yourself.
>
>c, If you know your subject then why look a Braindumps.
>
>
>I also use a lot of materials to study from Sybex Books,
and their CBT Study
>Guides, And I subscribe to TechNet Plus on a yearly basis.
>
>I also use the information from Microsoft site, which
tells me what I shall
>be expected to know in the exam that I am taking.
>
>I work in IT as 3rd line support, so there is a lot of
hands on, we still
>use nt4 and shall be going to windows 200? 2000 or 2003
in feb of next year.
>this will be our first 2000 Domain. It will raise may
questions with the
>team I work with. However as I said earlier through hard
work and study we
>shall prevail.
>
>James
>
>
>
>>Are braindumps cheating?
>
>
>
>"Main Identity" <me@homealone.com> wrote in message
>news:O4TmQmquDHA.2340@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> Are braindumps cheating?
>>
>> I use all sorts of materials to prepare and I am
learning this stuff. I
>am
>> 44 with a programming background. I got my A+ a few
months ago and will
>take
>> 70-210 this Sat. Over the years I have done many of
the operations I am
>> studying about but reading endlessly abount Win2000
Installations and
>> troubleshooting is borrrrrring. I don't think you can
pass these tests
>with
>> out some real world experience anyway. Just learing
the answers to the
>> questions without then understanding won't get you very
far IMHO.
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Why Cheat ? by Jimbo

Jimbo
Sat Dec 06 11:13:05 CST 2003

Hi Jeff,

I agree on one point most managers do not understand IT they are either
failed engineers or the know someone important. I have had 5 managers in my
IT career and only one of them was worth his weight in gold in my opionon.

James


"Jeff Rush" <JRush@Hose.Hotmail.Net> wrote in message
news:Ou72sk1uDHA.2224@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> But it get's you in the door and most managers don't know what their
> employees do for a living. Cheating is easier and faster then doing it
> right.
>
> It's still wrong but it's easier then timee and inclination to study.
>
> Reality - What a concept.
>
> Jeff
>
> "Jimbo" <news@n.com> wrote in message
news:3fcf9a81_8@corp.newsgroups.com...
> > Dear All,
> >
> > I`m new to newsgroups postings I been reading about these braindumps
just
> to
> > pass the exam. Why Cheat? I say, you are only cheating on yourself. Yes
> you
> > might get an interview because you have mcse on your CV but when it
comes
> to
> > the crunch at an interview the intervier will know you made yourself
look
> > stupid.
> >
> > Then they certainly will not want you.
> >
> > It has taken me 12 months to achieve MCP`s x2 CCA.
> > Windows Workstation 2000 Exam 70-210, Windows 2000 Server Exam 70-215. I
> > studied for two hours each night until I got it right I also brought the
> two
> > exams from selftest software to get an idea of my level. Once I got 90%
or
> > higher I went for the test. And passed.
> >
> > At my age which is 40 it is hard to study you have to make an effort, I
> > enjoyed doing it and now I shall progress for my MCSE. because I can. I
am
> > also dyslexic it has helped me in that as well.
> >
> > Work hard put the effort in you will be amazsed at what you can achieve
> > through hard work.
> >
> >
> > James
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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