Well, one of the joys of the offshore call center is that the world is
now a much smaller place. This morning I went on a trip around
the world - several trips actually - and it only took about 45 minutes.

I had cancelled a subscription to an online accounting service, hosted
by a well known small business software company, I won't mention
their name (intuit), and it looked like they had doubled billed my credit
card (it turns out they did not, but that is another story).

So I go onto the web site, and like many companies these days there
was no phone number to call, just an e-mail option. Well, I want to
talk to a real person, so I call the number on my credit card statement.
The man that answered the phone was obviously of recent Indian
ancestry, but he was polite and asked how he could help me. I
explained my situation, and he says it is an online issue and he gave
me the number to the online help desk.

I call the number he gave me and it was PayPal. OK, maybe I
miscalled; no it was PayPal. So I call the man back, I get a different
Indian this time, explained my problem, and he said it was an online
issue and he will give me the number to the online help desk. Wait a
sec, I say, The last guy gave me a number and it was PayPal.
Paypal, that's not right he assured me, and indeed the number he
gave me was a different number.

I call the number he gave me and it was the online helpdesk. Excellent!
But after explaining my problem he says that is a billing issue, you need
to talk to the billing department, the number is xxx-xxx-xxxx. Well, that
is the number I just talked to, twice!. I tell him this and he says, yes,
this
is indeed the people I need to talk to about billing issues. OK.

I call the number he gave me (the same number) and I get another Indian
gentlemen. I explain my problem and he says that is an online issue, I
need to talk to the online helpdesk. Stop, I say! I just talked to them
and they say I need to talk to you. That can't be he says, we can't pull
up any online transactions, only they can do it. But they can't do it
either,
I claim. OK - he will call them and they will get to the bottom of this. I
am put on hold. 10 minutes letter I am talking to someone new, I don't
know what department they belong to, I explain my problem and he says,
Oh, that is a billing issue, I will transfer you to the billing department.
(I
have now deduced that this gentleman was with the online helpdesk!) Oh
no you won't, you want to transfer me to xxx-xxx-xxxx don't you? Yes,
he says. Well they sent me to you! What is going on here? Hold on. He
says. Another 10 minutes later he returns: you need to go online and
e-mail your question, that is how all online support is done.

Well at least now I know.

Mind you, this is not a bash on Indians, per se, It is a bash on companies
that
think offshore, hence convoluted, customer support paths are cost effective.

They are not.

I had a very high opinion of Intuit but now I'm just frustrated. Until we
let
these companies know that customer service cannot be slighted (by taking
our business elsewhere) they will continue to do it.

kpg

PS - I just installed QuickBooks 2005. Oh well.

Re: OT: Call center blues by JaR

JaR
Tue Apr 12 13:18:11 CDT 2005

In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, kpg climbed on a soapbox & opined:

> Well, one of the joys of the offshore call center is that the world is
> now a much smaller place. This mor<<<Clicketty>>>

I'm sorry, all of our advisors are busy right now, you're call is extremely
important to us, so please hold for the next available advisor. Your call
will be answered in the order recieved. Hold time will be approximately
20minutes...

...and the WITchita LINEmannnnn is STILL ON the LIIIIIINnnneee....

--
JaR
Thug 10110
Click on MCNGP.com and check the selections of elevator music!

Re: OT: Call center blues by billLASTINIT

billLASTINIT
Tue Apr 12 13:50:24 CDT 2005

JaR wrote:
> In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, kpg climbed on a soapbox & opined:
>
>> Well, one of the joys of the offshore call center is that the world
>> is now a much smaller place. This mor<<<Clicketty>>>
>
> I'm sorry, all of our advisors are busy right now, you're call is
> extremely important to us, so please hold for the next available
> advisor. Your call will be answered in the order recieved. Hold time
> will be approximately 20minutes...
>
> ...and the WITchita LINEmannnnn is STILL ON the LIIIIIINnnneee....

I know I need a small vacation.

But it don't look like rain.


Re: OT: Call center blues by kpg

kpg
Tue Apr 12 13:56:54 CDT 2005

>>> Well, one of the joys of the offshore call center is that the world
>>> is now a much smaller place. This mor<<<Clicketty>>>
>>
>> I'm sorry, all of our advisors are busy right now, you're call is
>> extremely important to us, so please hold for the next available
>> advisor. Your call will be answered in the order recieved. Hold time
>> will be approximately 20minutes...
>>
>> ...and the WITchita LINEmannnnn is STILL ON the LIIIIIINnnneee....
>
> I know I need a small vacation.
>
> But it don't look like rain.
>

By the time I get to Phoenix - I'm going to kill you.

Re: Call center blues by James

James
Tue Apr 12 14:06:45 CDT 2005

Hey well Intuit has a location in Edmonton(thats where I'm from), and they
are always hiring people from Edmonton to work for them, doing phone tech
support, so I would say I don't think outsource.
"kpg" <ipost@thereforeiam.com> wrote in message
news:eQn8rf4PFHA.2384@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>
> Well, one of the joys of the offshore call center is that the world is
> now a much smaller place. This morning I went on a trip around
> the world - several trips actually - and it only took about 45 minutes.
>
> I had cancelled a subscription to an online accounting service, hosted
> by a well known small business software company, I won't mention
> their name (intuit), and it looked like they had doubled billed my credit
> card (it turns out they did not, but that is another story).
>
> So I go onto the web site, and like many companies these days there
> was no phone number to call, just an e-mail option. Well, I want to
> talk to a real person, so I call the number on my credit card statement.
> The man that answered the phone was obviously of recent Indian
> ancestry, but he was polite and asked how he could help me. I
> explained my situation, and he says it is an online issue and he gave
> me the number to the online help desk.
>
> I call the number he gave me and it was PayPal. OK, maybe I
> miscalled; no it was PayPal. So I call the man back, I get a different
> Indian this time, explained my problem, and he said it was an online
> issue and he will give me the number to the online help desk. Wait a
> sec, I say, The last guy gave me a number and it was PayPal.
> Paypal, that's not right he assured me, and indeed the number he
> gave me was a different number.
>
> I call the number he gave me and it was the online helpdesk. Excellent!
> But after explaining my problem he says that is a billing issue, you need
> to talk to the billing department, the number is xxx-xxx-xxxx. Well, that
> is the number I just talked to, twice!. I tell him this and he says, yes,
> this
> is indeed the people I need to talk to about billing issues. OK.
>
> I call the number he gave me (the same number) and I get another Indian
> gentlemen. I explain my problem and he says that is an online issue, I
> need to talk to the online helpdesk. Stop, I say! I just talked to them
> and they say I need to talk to you. That can't be he says, we can't pull
> up any online transactions, only they can do it. But they can't do it
> either,
> I claim. OK - he will call them and they will get to the bottom of this.
> I
> am put on hold. 10 minutes letter I am talking to someone new, I don't
> know what department they belong to, I explain my problem and he says,
> Oh, that is a billing issue, I will transfer you to the billing
> department. (I
> have now deduced that this gentleman was with the online helpdesk!) Oh
> no you won't, you want to transfer me to xxx-xxx-xxxx don't you? Yes,
> he says. Well they sent me to you! What is going on here? Hold on. He
> says. Another 10 minutes later he returns: you need to go online and
> e-mail your question, that is how all online support is done.
>
> Well at least now I know.
>
> Mind you, this is not a bash on Indians, per se, It is a bash on companies
> that
> think offshore, hence convoluted, customer support paths are cost
> effective.
>
> They are not.
>
> I had a very high opinion of Intuit but now I'm just frustrated. Until we
> let
> these companies know that customer service cannot be slighted (by taking
> our business elsewhere) they will continue to do it.
>
> kpg
>
> PS - I just installed QuickBooks 2005. Oh well.
>



Re: OT: Call center blues by billLASTINIT

billLASTINIT
Tue Apr 12 14:09:59 CDT 2005

kpg wrote:
>>>> Well, one of the joys of the offshore call center is that the world
>>>> is now a much smaller place. This mor<<<Clicketty>>>
>>>
>>> I'm sorry, all of our advisors are busy right now, you're call is
>>> extremely important to us, so please hold for the next available
>>> advisor. Your call will be answered in the order recieved. Hold time
>>> will be approximately 20minutes...
>>>
>>> ...and the WITchita LINEmannnnn is STILL ON the LIIIIIINnnneee....
>>
>> I know I need a small vacation.
>>
>> But it don't look like rain.
>>
>
> By the time I get to Phoenix - I'm going to kill you.

Like a Keyboard Cowboy!

Riding out on a hawg in a Star-Spangled Rodeo!

Re: OT: Call center blues by Keyboard

Keyboard
Tue Apr 12 14:25:19 CDT 2005


>-----Original Message-----
>kpg wrote:
>>>>> Well, one of the joys of the offshore call center is
that the world
>>>>> is now a much smaller place. This mor<<<Clicketty>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm sorry, all of our advisors are busy right now,
you're call is
>>>> extremely important to us, so please hold for the
next available
>>>> advisor. Your call will be answered in the order
recieved. Hold time
>>>> will be approximately 20minutes...
>>>>
>>>> ...and the WITchita LINEmannnnn is STILL ON the
LIIIIIINnnneee....
>>>
>>> I know I need a small vacation.
>>>
>>> But it don't look like rain.
>>>
>>
>> By the time I get to Phoenix - I'm going to kill you.
>
>Like a Keyboard Cowboy!
>
>Riding out on a hawg in a Star-Spangled Rodeo!
>.
>

You might be a redneck if you think you're WI-FI enabled
because you got your CB Radio in your truck working again.

Re: Call center blues by kpg

kpg
Tue Apr 12 14:27:12 CDT 2005

> Hey well Intuit has a location in Edmonton(thats where I'm from), and
> they are always hiring people from Edmonton to work for them, doing phone
> tech support, so I would say I don't think outsource.

Well, of the people I talked to, over half were former British subjects.

I don't know if they outsource - but I do know it was not the most
streamlined experience.




Re: OT: Call center blues by Neil

Neil
Tue Apr 12 14:46:59 CDT 2005

did you hear "Keyboard Cowboy"
<thekeyboardcowboy@nospam.cybersolutionz.com> say in news:0bb101c53f95
$5d0f06b0$a501280a@phx.gbl:

> You might be a redneck if you think you're WI-FI enabled
> because you got your CB Radio in your truck working again.

well, is your CB fixed?

--
Neil MCNGP#30

- DSZ speed 300 ha ha ha tee hee hee rz -ZZZZZZ

Re: OT: Call center blues by kpg

kpg
Tue Apr 12 15:29:01 CDT 2005


> So now... I can drive by and give crap
> every morn. Gotta start the day off right!

Local Computer Tech found shot to death in
front of local high school while still clutching
the mic of to his CB radio. Film at 11.


Re: OT: Call center blues by Keyboard

Keyboard
Tue Apr 12 15:19:23 CDT 2005


>-----Original Message-----
>did you hear "Keyboard Cowboy"
><thekeyboardcowboy@nospam.cybersolutionz.com> say in
news:0bb101c53f95
>$5d0f06b0$a501280a@phx.gbl:
>
>> You might be a redneck if you think you're WI-FI
enabled
>> because you got your CB Radio in your truck working
again.
>
>well, is your CB fixed?
>

ha! yes it is. Got it fixed last night. new atenna and
all. Direct wired to the battery for least interference.
I finally did it so I could mess with the high school
kids. As you know... I live in redneckville... I drive by
the local HS everyday... in the parking lot... the trucks
are lined up in a row... every one of the got a big ol' cb
antenna on top. So now... I can drive by and give crap
every morn. Gotta start the day off right!

Re: OT: Call center blues by Keyboard

Keyboard
Tue Apr 12 15:45:55 CDT 2005


>-----Original Message-----
>
>> So now... I can drive by and give crap
>> every morn. Gotta start the day off right!
>
>Local Computer Tech found shot to death in
>front of local high school while still clutching
>the mic of to his CB radio. Film at 11.
>
>.
>

You forget... I carry too. legal even.

and you left out the part "last words spoken before this
tragic incedent were "hey, yall. Watch this."