OT: Let it all out!!!

I normally don't cross-post, but for this I felt it was necessary. Mainly
because I'm being lazy and I didn't want to have to go into my sent items
and forward it to the other groups. Besides, you don't mind do you? Didn't
think so, thanks. ;-)

Anyways, on to what I'm posting about. Two main reasons: 1) To let everyone,
that hasn't heard about CertGuard, know what we are about, and 2) to let
everyone know about the New forum that I just started within CertGuard.

CertGuard, if you don't already know, is trying to keep the value of your IT
Certifications at a point where they still have some value. For quite some
time now (at least 5 years), br@indump companies and cheaters that use those
braindumps have been devaluing the IT Industry by entering our field of work
with no regard of the hard work that MOST of you put into studying for and
EARNING your certifications.

I started CertGuard just a few months ago when I decided that enough is
enough. When I realized that there are people out there that will perform
outrageous tasks to get someone else certified, I went ballistic and started
contacting everyone I knew about this. Without going into detail about it,
I'll just say that I've made quite a few new contacts and that we are taking
care of business. Your Certifications are looking somewhat better (not that
anyone would really know, right?).

One thing we are trying to accomplish through the CertGuard Forums is to get
industry wide recognition for being one of the few truly br@indump-free
forums on the internet. With that, any of our 'Certified Professionals' are
also proven to be br@indump-free.


The other reason I'm writing this is to promote the new "OT: Let it all
out!!!" section in the CertGuard Forums. Everyone has a complaint about
something, whether it be about your job, or traffic, or your dirty
underwear, OT: Let it all out!!! is the place to b!tch about it. OT: Let it
all out!!! is not censored and it's open to people that register with
CertGuard (sorry, that's the way the forum software is set up).


--
BD
MCNGP #51
-- You think you know IT?!
-- Check out the new forums at: http://www.CertGuard.com/forums/

lowdes
Tue Oct 03 07:05:38 CDT 2006

Spam

<BD[MCNGP]> wrote in message news:OYIlCDq5GHA.668@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>I normally don't cross-post, but for this I felt it was necessary. Mainly
> because I'm being lazy and I didn't want to have to go into my sent items
> and forward it to the other groups. Besides, you don't mind do you? Didn't
> think so, thanks. ;-)
>
> Anyways, on to what I'm posting about. Two main reasons: 1) To let
> everyone,
> that hasn't heard about CertGuard, know what we are about, and 2) to let
> everyone know about the New forum that I just started within CertGuard.
>
> CertGuard, if you don't already know, is trying to keep the value of your
> IT
> Certifications at a point where they still have some value. For quite some
> time now (at least 5 years), br@indump companies and cheaters that use
> those
> braindumps have been devaluing the IT Industry by entering our field of
> work
> with no regard of the hard work that MOST of you put into studying for and
> EARNING your certifications.
>
> I started CertGuard just a few months ago when I decided that enough is
> enough. When I realized that there are people out there that will perform
> outrageous tasks to get someone else certified, I went ballistic and
> started
> contacting everyone I knew about this. Without going into detail about it,
> I'll just say that I've made quite a few new contacts and that we are
> taking
> care of business. Your Certifications are looking somewhat better (not
> that
> anyone would really know, right?).
>
> One thing we are trying to accomplish through the CertGuard Forums is to
> get
> industry wide recognition for being one of the few truly br@indump-free
> forums on the internet. With that, any of our 'Certified Professionals'
> are
> also proven to be br@indump-free.
>
>
> The other reason I'm writing this is to promote the new "OT: Let it all
> out!!!" section in the CertGuard Forums. Everyone has a complaint about
> something, whether it be about your job, or traffic, or your dirty
> underwear, OT: Let it all out!!! is the place to b!tch about it. OT: Let
> it
> all out!!! is not censored and it's open to people that register with
> CertGuard (sorry, that's the way the forum software is set up).
>
>
> --
> BD
> MCNGP #51
> -- You think you know IT?!
> -- Check out the new forums at: http://www.CertGuard.com/forums/
>
>

Twenty-Five
Tue Oct 03 07:37:50 CDT 2006

<BD[MCNGP]> wrote in message news:OYIlCDq5GHA.668@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>I normally don't cross-post, but for this I felt it was necessary. Mainly
> because I'm being lazy and I didn't want to have to go into my sent items
> and forward it to the other groups. Besides, you don't mind do you? Didn't
> think so, thanks. ;-)
>
> Anyways, on to what I'm posting about. Two main reasons: 1) To let
> everyone,
> that hasn't heard about CertGuard, know what we are about, and 2) to let
> everyone know about the New forum that I just started within CertGuard.
>
> CertGuard, if you don't already know, is trying to keep the value of your
> IT
> Certifications at a point where they still have some value. For quite some
> time now (at least 5 years), br@indump companies and cheaters that use
> those
> braindumps have been devaluing the IT Industry by entering our field of
> work
> with no regard of the hard work that MOST of you put into studying for and
> EARNING your certifications.
>
> I started CertGuard just a few months ago when I decided that enough is
> enough. When I realized that there are people out there that will perform
> outrageous tasks to get someone else certified, I went ballistic and
> started
> contacting everyone I knew about this. Without going into detail about it,
> I'll just say that I've made quite a few new contacts and that we are
> taking
> care of business. Your Certifications are looking somewhat better (not
> that
> anyone would really know, right?).
>
> One thing we are trying to accomplish through the CertGuard Forums is to
> get
> industry wide recognition for being one of the few truly br@indump-free
> forums on the internet. With that, any of our 'Certified Professionals'
> are
> also proven to be br@indump-free.
>
>
> The other reason I'm writing this is to promote the new "OT: Let it all
> out!!!" section in the CertGuard Forums. Everyone has a complaint about
> something, whether it be about your job, or traffic, or your dirty
> underwear, OT: Let it all out!!! is the place to b!tch about it. OT: Let
> it
> all out!!! is not censored and it's open to people that register with
> CertGuard (sorry, that's the way the forum software is set up).
>
>
> --
> BD
> MCNGP #51
> -- You think you know IT?!
> -- Check out the new forums at: http://www.CertGuard.com/forums/
>

Do you have any free ebooks on MCSE :-)

Cerebrus
Tue Oct 03 08:01:40 CDT 2006


Twenty-FiveBucks wrote:
> Do you have any free ebooks on MCSE :-)

No, but will "Illustrated Kamasutra" do ?

Twenty-Five
Tue Oct 03 08:13:05 CDT 2006

> Twenty-FiveBucks wrote:
>> Do you have any free ebooks on MCSE :-)
>
> No, but will "Illustrated Kamasutra" do ?
>

Does it cum with a free DVD?

OTMAN
Tue Oct 03 08:17:01 CDT 2006

> Does it cum with a free DVD?

Is it Blue Ray?

Twenty-Five
Tue Oct 03 08:36:06 CDT 2006

>> Does it cum with a free DVD?
>
> Is it Blue Ray?

Apparently not. However, it is supplied on 10 8'' floppy disks.

OTMAN
Tue Oct 03 08:39:02 CDT 2006

> >> Does it cum with a free DVD?
> >
> > Is it Blue Ray?
>
> Apparently not. However, it is supplied on 10 8'' floppy disks.

wat?

I have 250 FD

Consultant
Tue Oct 03 08:50:40 CDT 2006

where can i get the braindumps for this so called certguard?


<BD[MCNGP]> wrote in message news:OYIlCDq5GHA.668@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>I normally don't cross-post, but for this I felt it was necessary. Mainly
> because I'm being lazy and I didn't want to have to go into my sent items
> and forward it to the other groups. Besides, you don't mind do you? Didn't
> think so, thanks. ;-)
>
> Anyways, on to what I'm posting about. Two main reasons: 1) To let
> everyone,
> that hasn't heard about CertGuard, know what we are about, and 2) to let
> everyone know about the New forum that I just started within CertGuard.
>
> CertGuard, if you don't already know, is trying to keep the value of your
> IT
> Certifications at a point where they still have some value. For quite some
> time now (at least 5 years), br@indump companies and cheaters that use
> those
> braindumps have been devaluing the IT Industry by entering our field of
> work
> with no regard of the hard work that MOST of you put into studying for and
> EARNING your certifications.
>
> I started CertGuard just a few months ago when I decided that enough is
> enough. When I realized that there are people out there that will perform
> outrageous tasks to get someone else certified, I went ballistic and
> started
> contacting everyone I knew about this. Without going into detail about it,
> I'll just say that I've made quite a few new contacts and that we are
> taking
> care of business. Your Certifications are looking somewhat better (not
> that
> anyone would really know, right?).
>
> One thing we are trying to accomplish through the CertGuard Forums is to
> get
> industry wide recognition for being one of the few truly br@indump-free
> forums on the internet. With that, any of our 'Certified Professionals'
> are
> also proven to be br@indump-free.
>
>
> The other reason I'm writing this is to promote the new "OT: Let it all
> out!!!" section in the CertGuard Forums. Everyone has a complaint about
> something, whether it be about your job, or traffic, or your dirty
> underwear, OT: Let it all out!!! is the place to b!tch about it. OT: Let
> it
> all out!!! is not censored and it's open to people that register with
> CertGuard (sorry, that's the way the forum software is set up).
>
>
> --
> BD
> MCNGP #51
> -- You think you know IT?!
> -- Check out the new forums at: http://www.CertGuard.com/forums/
>
>

OTMAN
Tue Oct 03 09:15:02 CDT 2006

> where can i get the braindumps for this so called certguard?

Remember, there are no stupid questions

Just stupid answers

BD[MCNGP]>
Tue Oct 03 10:08:32 CDT 2006

"Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OD8vqLv5GHA.3808@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> where can i get the braindumps for this so called certguard?
>

For you brotha, I'll provide anything you need.

--
BD
MCNGP #51
-- You think you know IT?!
-- Check out the new forums at: http://www.CertGuard.com/forums/

lowdes
Tue Oct 03 14:56:51 CDT 2006

Your a spammer.


<BD[MCNGP]> wrote in message news:OTgcB3v5GHA.4592@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> "Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:OD8vqLv5GHA.3808@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> where can i get the braindumps for this so called certguard?
>>
>
> For you brotha, I'll provide anything you need.
>
> --
> BD
> MCNGP #51
> -- You think you know IT?!
> -- Check out the new forums at: http://www.CertGuard.com/forums/
>
>

CBIC
Tue Oct 03 15:06:42 CDT 2006


"lowdes" <low_desert@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7gzUg.11$LU2.6@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Your a spammer.
>
You're a troll

lowdes
Tue Oct 03 15:19:43 CDT 2006

Nice, a troll, I guess that is better then being overweight.

"CBIC" <spam.thisbiotch@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ODUgmey5GHA.3920@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
> "lowdes" <low_desert@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:7gzUg.11$LU2.6@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>> Your a spammer.
>>
> You're a troll
>

CBIC
Tue Oct 03 15:27:20 CDT 2006


"lowdes" <low_desert@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:zBzUg.18$yX5.11@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Nice, a troll, I guess that is better then being overweight.

Uh...OK.

John_Galt*EditUndo
Tue Oct 03 17:41:00 CDT 2006


"OT-MAN" <OTMAN@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9FEFE0D2-A197-491C-A145-9CA239E5F05E@microsoft.com...
> > where can i get the braindumps for this so called certguard?
>
> Remember, there are no stupid questions
>
> Just stupid answers

and stupid rhetoric.

ScubaDave
Wed Oct 04 08:10:02 CDT 2006

You need to look up the definition of Spam
Spam is generally unwanted/unrelated posts/letter/e-mails that you are not
interested in or do not apply to the general topic at hand
This post directly relates to the topic at hand & certification
I've hired my share of braindumped trained people who are incompetent &
can't do the job they were hired to do. And with today's companies it is
usually VERY hard to get rid of an employee. It took 2 months of my time to
get rid of one incompetent IT person. Time I did not have. If sites like
CertGuard keep incompetent people out of IT field then I am all for it
No wonder a LOT of companies shy away from hiring people who have
Certifications but do not have experience. The certifications to some extent
mean nothing to me as a hiring manager. They only mean the person will be
looking for more $$ that they may not have the experiance tojustify

Just my opinion based on 20+ years of expereince with IT

"lowdes" wrote:

> Spam
>
> <BD[MCNGP]> wrote in message news:OYIlCDq5GHA.668@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >I normally don't cross-post, but for this I felt it was necessary. Mainly
> > because I'm being lazy and I didn't want to have to go into my sent items
> > and forward it to the other groups. Besides, you don't mind do you? Didn't
> > think so, thanks. ;-)
> >
> > Anyways, on to what I'm posting about. Two main reasons: 1) To let
> > everyone,
> > that hasn't heard about CertGuard, know what we are about, and 2) to let
> > everyone know about the New forum that I just started within CertGuard.
> >
> > CertGuard, if you don't already know, is trying to keep the value of your
> > IT
> > Certifications at a point where they still have some value. For quite some
> > time now (at least 5 years), br@indump companies and cheaters that use
> > those
> > braindumps have been devaluing the IT Industry by entering our field of
> > work
> > with no regard of the hard work that MOST of you put into studying for and
> > EARNING your certifications.
> >
> > I started CertGuard just a few months ago when I decided that enough is
> > enough. When I realized that there are people out there that will perform
> > outrageous tasks to get someone else certified, I went ballistic and
> > started
> > contacting everyone I knew about this. Without going into detail about it,
> > I'll just say that I've made quite a few new contacts and that we are
> > taking
> > care of business. Your Certifications are looking somewhat better (not
> > that
> > anyone would really know, right?).
> >
> > One thing we are trying to accomplish through the CertGuard Forums is to
> > get
> > industry wide recognition for being one of the few truly br@indump-free
> > forums on the internet. With that, any of our 'Certified Professionals'
> > are
> > also proven to be br@indump-free.
> >
> >
> > The other reason I'm writing this is to promote the new "OT: Let it all
> > out!!!" section in the CertGuard Forums. Everyone has a complaint about
> > something, whether it be about your job, or traffic, or your dirty
> > underwear, OT: Let it all out!!! is the place to b!tch about it. OT: Let
> > it
> > all out!!! is not censored and it's open to people that register with
> > CertGuard (sorry, that's the way the forum software is set up).
> >
> >
> > --
> > BD
> > MCNGP #51
> > -- You think you know IT?!
> > -- Check out the new forums at: http://www.CertGuard.com/forums/
> >
> >
>
>
>

BD[MCNGP]>
Wed Oct 04 10:18:09 CDT 2006

"Scuba_Dave" <ScubaDave@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:757D5578-6334-433D-8131-170C957B3446@microsoft.com...
> You need to look up the definition of Spam
> Spam is generally unwanted/unrelated posts/letter/e-mails that you are not
> interested in or do not apply to the general topic at hand
> This post directly relates to the topic at hand & certification
> I've hired my share of braindumped trained people who are incompetent &
> can't do the job they were hired to do. And with today's companies it is
> usually VERY hard to get rid of an employee. It took 2 months of my time
to
> get rid of one incompetent IT person. Time I did not have. If sites like
> CertGuard keep incompetent people out of IT field then I am all for it
> No wonder a LOT of companies shy away from hiring people who have
> Certifications but do not have experience. The certifications to some
extent
> mean nothing to me as a hiring manager. They only mean the person will be
> looking for more $$ that they may not have the experiance tojustify
>
> Just my opinion based on 20+ years of expereince with IT
>

lowdes is one of those people that doesn't care about what you say, unless
it benefits him. But the rest of us feel the same way you do Dave.

From what I understand, in California it is MUCH easier to fire someone
these days. The guy I just quit working for this past Friday fired 1 of the
2 office admin (nothing to do with computers) girls on Wednesday...KNOWING
that I was leaving two days later. The reasons (he didn't tell her this)
were....1, she was ditzy, and 2, she had a real good working relationship
with the lead engineer.

What I'm wondering is if there is a way to fire a person for 'false
advertising'. All the employer would have to do is prove that the person
doesn't have the knowledge that is written on the resume, but only if it
came to a court's decision.

--
BD
MCNGP #51
-- You think you know IT?!
-- Check out the new forums at: http://www.CertGuard.com/forums/

Jtyc
Wed Oct 04 10:37:29 CDT 2006

> From what I understand, in California it is MUCH easier to fire someone
> these days.


Not in the state government.

BD[MCNGP]>
Wed Oct 04 11:52:39 CDT 2006

"Jtyc" <yo@respondtothegroup.com> wrote in message
news:umeBwr85GHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > From what I understand, in California it is MUCH easier to fire someone
> > these days.
>
>
> Not in the state government.
>
>
State regulations are state regulations...but I understand how the State
Gov't doesn't have to abide by those. ;)

--
BD
MCNGP #51
-- You think you know IT?!
-- Check out the new forums at: http://www.CertGuard.com/forums/

John_Galt*EditUndo
Wed Oct 04 14:36:37 CDT 2006


"Scuba_Dave" <ScubaDave@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote


> I've hired my share of braindumped trained people who are incompetent &
> can't do the job they were hired to do. And with today's companies it is
> usually VERY hard to get rid of an employee. It took 2 months of my time
to
> get rid of one incompetent IT person. Time I did not have.

See, I would prefer to be able to get a job where I was incompetent, and be
able to be a complete waste of time, but I usually wind up doing a good job,
and realising that the bosses are incompetent.

LRM
Wed Oct 04 23:20:23 CDT 2006

"Scuba_Dave" <ScubaDave@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:757D5578-6334-433D-8131-170C957B3446@microsoft.com...
> You need to look up the definition of Spam
> Spam is generally unwanted/unrelated posts/letter/e-mails that you are not
> interested in or do not apply to the general topic at hand
> This post directly relates to the topic at hand & certification
> I've hired my share of braindumped trained people who are incompetent &
> can't do the job they were hired to do. And with today's companies it is
> usually VERY hard to get rid of an employee. It took 2 months of my time
> to
> get rid of one incompetent IT person. Time I did not have. If sites like
> CertGuard keep incompetent people out of IT field then I am all for it
> No wonder a LOT of companies shy away from hiring people who have
> Certifications but do not have experience. The certifications to some
> extent
> mean nothing to me as a hiring manager. They only mean the person will be
> looking for more $$ that they may not have the experiance tojustify
>
> Just my opinion based on 20+ years of expereince with IT
>

word

--
LRM
MCNGP 7^2
www.mcngp.com home of the bogosity singularity.

Cerebrus
Thu Oct 05 09:19:46 CDT 2006


John_Galt*EditUndo = (NCC1701D:23.C-22+5150)(Building(7).Room(103)) =
2964 = @ != @ wrote:

> See, I would prefer to be able to get a job where I was incompetent, and be
> able to be a complete waste of time, but I usually wind up doing a good job,
> and realising that the bosses are incompetent.

Don't worry about it, that's another not-so-apparent MCNGP
characteristic.

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