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Just curious, what type of hourly rates are you MSCE's in training making?

kpg
Wed Jun 21 14:52:50 CDT 2006

As James once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse

> Just curious, what type of hourly rates are you MSCE's
> in training making?

Making? MCSE's in training have to pay.

James
Wed Jun 21 15:45:36 CDT 2006

none of you have an IT job, and are working towards MCSE?

"kpg" <no@way.com> wrote in message
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> As James once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
>
>> Just curious, what type of hourly rates are you MSCE's
>> in training making?
>
> Making? MCSE's in training have to pay.

Jtyc
Wed Jun 21 15:51:21 CDT 2006

> none of you have an IT job, and are working towards MCSE?

I have an IT job and have an MCSE.

BD>
Wed Jun 21 15:55:11 CDT 2006

<< While I was at work, James spurted out:
<<------------------------------------------>>
> none of you have an IT job, and are working towards MCSE?
>
Most of us just don't like the name James....sorry.
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kpg
Wed Jun 21 15:54:52 CDT 2006

As Jtyc once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse

>> none of you have an IT job, and are working towards MCSE?
>
> I have an IT job and have an MCSE.

I have an IT job, but am not working on my MCSE.

Frisbee®
Wed Jun 21 15:55:32 CDT 2006

"Jtyc" <yo@respondtothegroup.com> wrote in message
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>> none of you have an IT job, and are working towards MCSE?
>
> I have an IT job and have an MCSE.

I thought you were con's secretary.

BD>
Wed Jun 21 15:57:01 CDT 2006

Especially Canadian posters named James

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Wed Jun 21 16:00:41 CDT 2006

"kpg" <no@way.com> wrote in message
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> As Jtyc once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
>
>>> none of you have an IT job, and are working towards MCSE?
>>
>> I have an IT job and have an MCSE.
>
> I have an IT job, but am not working on my MCSE.

Hey! Me too!

Jtyc
Wed Jun 21 16:17:39 CDT 2006

> I thought you were con's secretary.

You are mistaken.

JaR
Wed Jun 21 16:17:04 CDT 2006

On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 14:45:36 -0600, James cast into the ether:

> none of you have an IT job, and are working towards MCSE?

No, I have an IT job and no interest in wasting any more money getting
MCSE.

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JaR
Wed Jun 21 16:20:44 CDT 2006

On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 14:17:39 -0700, Jtyc cast into the ether:

>> I thought you were con's secretary.
>
> You are mistaken.

Are you sure? I know I read that somewhere.

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kpg
Wed Jun 21 16:24:48 CDT 2006

As JaR once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse

> # Name resolution details: file://c:\temp\199493.htm (6/21/2006
> 4:24:29 PM) # On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 14:17:39 -0700, Jtyc cast into the
> ether:
>
>>> I thought you were con's secretary.
>>
>> You are mistaken.
>
> Are you sure? I know I read that somewhere.

I read it too. It must be true.

Jtyc
Wed Jun 21 16:27:00 CDT 2006

> Are you sure? I know I read that somewhere.

Yes.

James
Wed Jun 21 16:24:51 CDT 2006

I understand that your jealous of the name, and the country, but thats no
reason not to like it!

<BD> wrote in message news:%23VnlbVXlGHA.4716@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Especially Canadian posters named James
>
> --
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>

Death
Wed Jun 21 16:42:55 CDT 2006

>I understand that your jealous of the name, and the country

And of your ability to differentiate between "your" and "you're".


Death from Above

Jtyc
Wed Jun 21 16:46:46 CDT 2006

> I read it too. It must be true.

If you only knew the truth.

James
Wed Jun 21 17:19:38 CDT 2006

In Canada, we dont use '
You have to order special american keyboards to use '


"Death from Above" <supaninja@kickin.booty.com> wrote in message
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> >I understand that your jealous of the name, and the country
>
> And of your ability to differentiate between "your" and "you're".
>
>
> Death from Above
>

JaR
Wed Jun 21 17:24:43 CDT 2006

On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 16:19:38 -0600, James cast into the ether:

> In Canada, we dont use '
> You have to order special american keyboards to use '

Dolt.

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LRM
Wed Jun 21 17:38:17 CDT 2006

All gawked in amazement when: James assaulted us with:
> Just curious, what type of hourly rates are you MSCE's in training
> making?

As an IT professional I dont make an hourly wage. I'm salaried, and I make
more than you.

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BD>
Wed Jun 21 18:14:35 CDT 2006

<< While I was at work, Death from Above spurted out:
<<------------------------------------------>>
>> I understand that your jealous of the name, and the country
>
> And of your ability to differentiate between "your" and "you're".
>
Yes, that was it...you know your right....


...from your left. ;)
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Neil
Wed Jun 21 20:22:03 CDT 2006

did you hear <BD> say in news:#VnlbVXlGHA.4716@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:

> Especially Canadian posters named James
>

but not all Canadians

(or I'll hafta kick yer a$$)

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Neil
Wed Jun 21 20:23:49 CDT 2006

did you hear "James" <fake@email.com> say in news:#g362DYlGHA.4076
@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:

> In Canada, we dont use '
> You have to order special american keyboards to use '
>
>
> "Death from Above" <supaninja@kickin.booty.com> wrote in message
> news:uYlFpuXlGHA.4144@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> >I understand that your jealous of the name, and the country
>>
>> And of your ability to differentiate between "your" and "you're".
>>
>>
>> Death from Above
>>
>
>

read 'eats shoots and leaves'

I did and it made absolutely NO DIFF! but I giggled a bit.

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BD>
Wed Jun 21 20:36:14 CDT 2006

<< While I was at work, Neil spurted out:
<<------------------------------------------>>
> did you hear <BD> say in news:#VnlbVXlGHA.4716@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:
>
>> Especially Canadian posters named James
>>
>
> but not all Canadians
>
> (or I'll hafta kick yer a$$)
>
Come on now...I'm no racist (is Canadian a race?)....no, just Canadians named
James.
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CBIC
Wed Jun 21 21:43:50 CDT 2006


> I have an IT job, but am not working on my MCSE.

Same here. I have a great paying job but no MCSE. I don't need one. I have
my CCNA though. Yeah, I work with routers and no clusers. I love my job.

Cerebrus
Thu Jun 22 04:07:25 CDT 2006


CBIC wrote:
> > I have an IT job, but am not working on my MCSE.
>
> Same here. I have a great paying job but no MCSE. I don't need one. I have
> my CCNA though. Yeah, I work with routers and no clusers. I love my job.

I don't have an IT job, *and* I'm not working on my MCSE. Lethal
combination, eh !

Briscobar
Thu Jun 22 07:09:45 CDT 2006

kpg <no@way.com> rambled:
>
> As Jtyc once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
>
>>> none of you have an IT job, and are working towards MCSE?
>>
>> I have an IT job and have an MCSE.
>
> I have an IT job, but am not working on my MCSE.


I have an IT job, am in quasi-training for my MCSE. Company is paying for
class, but has made no mention of the exams. So, as a result, I will not be
taking them unless the company is paying for them...or the MCSE becomes a
well respected cert again. So, I guess I'm in training, but will have
nothing to show for it, except for lost Tuesday and Thursday nights through
the end of the year...

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Frisbee®
Thu Jun 22 07:24:57 CDT 2006

"Briscobar" <youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in message
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> kpg <no@way.com> rambled:
>>
>> As Jtyc once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
>>
>>>> none of you have an IT job, and are working towards MCSE?
>>>
>>> I have an IT job and have an MCSE.
>>
>> I have an IT job, but am not working on my MCSE.
>
>
> I have an IT job, am in quasi-training for my MCSE. Company is paying for
> class, but has made no mention of the exams. So, as a result, I will not
> be
> taking them unless the company is paying for them...or the MCSE becomes a
> well respected cert again. So, I guess I'm in training, but will have
> nothing to show for it, except for lost Tuesday and Thursday nights
> through
> the end of the year...

Let's don't be silly.

Everyone knows that you have no class.

FrankNguyen
Thu Jun 22 08:04:02 CDT 2006

It is true that professional IT don't make hourly wages (except when you do
consulting works which I charge $85/hr. :-)). About MCSE certification
nowaday, I totally agree with Jar. MSCE certification has been downgraded so
much latelly because the IT field has been flooded with "MCSE on PAPER". I
wish Microsoft woudl have done the same things like Cisco which requires
hands on lab exam, and recertification. Plus, a lots of MCSE trainning
places are bogus. All they need are getting your money and selling their
trainning book. I got my certificaiton 6 years ago through experiences at
work and self-learning MCSE books. Didn't even need to pay a dime for
classes :-). By the way, just got myself certified for the CCNA yesterday.
Yeehaaa...

"LRM" wrote:

> All gawked in amazement when: James assaulted us with:
> > Just curious, what type of hourly rates are you MSCE's in training
> > making?
>
> As an IT professional I dont make an hourly wage. I'm salaried, and I make
> more than you.
>
> --
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>
>
>

mugen
Thu Jun 22 09:15:33 CDT 2006

erm isn't that a loose definition of job.
glad you didn't call it work that would have just been too much :)


"Jtyc" <yo@respondtothegroup.com> wrote in message
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>> none of you have an IT job, and are working towards MCSE?
>
> I have an IT job and have an MCSE.
>
>
>

kpg
Thu Jun 22 09:24:28 CDT 2006

As Cerebrus once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse

> # Name-Host Conflict: file://c:\temp\199515.htm (6/22/2006 9:24:08 AM)
> #
>
> CBIC wrote:
>> > I have an IT job, but am not working on my MCSE.
>>
>> Same here. I have a great paying job but no MCSE. I don't need one. I
>> have my CCNA though. Yeah, I work with routers and no clusers. I love
>> my job.
>
> I don't have an IT job, *and* I'm not working on my MCSE. Lethal
> combination, eh !

More like the only sane one in the bunch!

kpg
Thu Jun 22 09:25:26 CDT 2006

As Jtyc once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse

> # Name resolution details: file://c:\temp\199498.htm (6/22/2006
> 9:24:58 AM) #
>> I read it too. It must be true.
>
> If you only knew the truth.

Sorry. I seldom deal in truth.

Briscobar
Thu Jun 22 09:33:00 CDT 2006

Frisbee® <billLASTNAME@yahoo.com> rambled:
>
> Let's don't be silly.
>
> Everyone knows that you have no class.

Heh. As witnessed in the Tasteless Jokes forum.

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Jtyc
Thu Jun 22 09:33:30 CDT 2006

> Sorry. I seldom deal in truth.

You a manager or something?

Jtyc
Thu Jun 22 09:34:41 CDT 2006

> erm isn't that a loose definition of job.
> glad you didn't call it work that would have just been too much :)

What the??? Where did you come from?

kpg
Thu Jun 22 09:37:34 CDT 2006

As Jtyc once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse

>> Sorry. I seldom deal in truth.
>
> You a manager or something?

I manage, with a little help from my friends.

James
Thu Jun 22 09:42:49 CDT 2006

How much more then me do you make?
How many years experience do you have?

"LRM" <Fskspam@friedspam.com> wrote in message
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> All gawked in amazement when: James assaulted us with:
>> Just curious, what type of hourly rates are you MSCE's in training
>> making?
>
> As an IT professional I dont make an hourly wage. I'm salaried, and I make
> more than you.
>
> --
> LRM
> MCNGP 7^2
> www.mcngp.com home of the bogosity singularity.
>
>

Jtyc
Thu Jun 22 09:48:18 CDT 2006

> As an IT professional I dont make an hourly wage. I'm salaried, and I make
> more than you.

Yeah but... I'm taller.

Briscobar
Thu Jun 22 10:06:26 CDT 2006

James <fake@email.com> rambled:
>
> How much more then me do you make?
> How many years experience do you have?

All that matters is she's better looking.


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Neil
Thu Jun 22 10:10:04 CDT 2006

did you hear <BD> say in news:uY5RdxZlGHA.1640@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:

> is Canadian a race

more like a stroll. just relax and take it easy, you're in Canada

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Neil
Thu Jun 22 10:10:42 CDT 2006

did you hear <BD> say in news:uY5RdxZlGHA.1640@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:

> is Canadian a race?

and as an alternative answer, no it's a beer....

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Thu Jun 22 10:10:28 CDT 2006

"James" <fake@email.com> wrote in message
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> How much more then me do you make?

Eats shoots and leaves.

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Thu Jun 22 10:20:49 CDT 2006

"Neil" <guess!!!@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> did you hear <BD> say in news:uY5RdxZlGHA.1640@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:
>
>> is Canadian a race?
>
> and as an alternative answer, no it's a beer....

I thought it was a kind of bacon.

The
Thu Jun 22 10:23:57 CDT 2006

Enough...

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"James" <fake@email.com> wrote in message
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> Just curious, what type of hourly rates are you MSCE's in training making?
>
>

JaR
Thu Jun 22 10:39:07 CDT 2006

On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 15:15:33 +0100, mugen cast into the ether:

> erm isn't that a loose definition of job.
> glad you didn't call it work that would have just been too much :)

Hey, look! It's some guy in a skirt!

Where ya been?

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Thu Jun 22 10:46:38 CDT 2006

"JaR" <jrderby@lakabux.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 15:15:33 +0100, mugen cast into the ether:
>
>> erm isn't that a loose definition of job.
>> glad you didn't call it work that would have just been too much :)
>
> Hey, look! It's some guy in a skirt!
>
> Where ya been?

Okay, are you guys (you and jtyc) keeping track of posting IP's or
something? I'm guessing you think this is billyw but how did you figure
that out from "mugen?"

JaR
Thu Jun 22 10:46:22 CDT 2006

On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 08:42:49 -0600, James cast into the ether:

> How many years experience do you have?

Enough to know that most IT pros are salaried, or on contract.

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JaR
Thu Jun 22 10:54:23 CDT 2006

On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:46:38 -0400, Frisbee® cast into the ether:

> Okay, are you guys (you and jtyc) keeping track of posting IP's or
> something? I'm guessing you think this is billyw but how did you figure
> that out from "mugen?"

Looka his "From" addy.
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Thu Jun 22 11:03:05 CDT 2006

"JaR" <jrderby@lakabux.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:46:38 -0400, Frisbee® cast into the ether:
>
>> Okay, are you guys (you and jtyc) keeping track of posting IP's or
>> something? I'm guessing you think this is billyw but how did you figure
>> that out from "mugen?"
>
> Looka his "From" addy.

You must not be using OE... I had to open the post, and view properties to
see that.

Jtyc
Thu Jun 22 11:08:54 CDT 2006

> Okay, are you guys (you and jtyc) keeping track of posting IP's or
> something? I'm guessing you think this is billyw but how did you figure
> that out from "mugen?"

Logical deduction. A personal jab had to be from someone I knew. Check
headers, blam! Man in a skirt.



And I never claimed that I worked.

JaR
Thu Jun 22 11:07:55 CDT 2006

On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 12:03:05 -0400, Frisbee® cast into the ether:

>> Looka his "From" addy.
>
> You must not be using OE... I had to open the post, and view properties to
> see that.

Pan shows them at the top of every post.

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James
Thu Jun 22 11:07:05 CDT 2006

a really gross beer though...

"Neil" <guess!!!@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> did you hear <BD> say in news:uY5RdxZlGHA.1640@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:
>
>> is Canadian a race?
>
> and as an alternative answer, no it's a beer....
>
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Jtyc
Thu Jun 22 11:10:51 CDT 2006

> You must not be using OE... I had to open the post, and view properties to
> see that.

Exactly, that's what I did.

James
Thu Jun 22 11:08:30 CDT 2006

well then I am oviously an IT amature

I'm just curious what the future holds.
Someone with an MCSE, and a few years experience...what is the going salary
then?

"JaR" <jrderby@lakabux.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 08:42:49 -0600, James cast into the ether:
>
>> How many years experience do you have?
>
> Enough to know that most IT pros are salaried, or on contract.
>
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James
Thu Jun 22 11:22:40 CDT 2006

$10?
$20?
$30?
$40?
$50?

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> Enough...
>
> --
> .rev - mct.mcngp.44
> .
> "It is the mark of an educated man to be able to entertain a thought
> without accepting it"
> ~Aristotle.
> .
> "James" <fake@email.com> wrote in message
> news:uFa6DlWlGHA.4708@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Just curious, what type of hourly rates are you MSCE's in training
>> making?
>>
>>
>

mugen
Thu Jun 22 11:29:14 CDT 2006

maybe billyw rings a bell


"Jtyc" <yo@respondtothegroup.com> wrote in message
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>> erm isn't that a loose definition of job.
>> glad you didn't call it work that would have just been too much :)
>
> What the??? Where did you come from?
>

JaR
Thu Jun 22 11:30:02 CDT 2006

On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 10:08:30 -0600, James cast into the ether:

> well then I am oviously an IT amature
>

Obviously.

> I'm just curious what the future holds.
> Someone with an MCSE, and a few years experience...what is the going salary
> then?

MCSE means squat. It all depends on what you can do. I know folks making
80K a year that don't even touch Microsoft equipment. I know others
making 30K with MS certs coming out of their ears. It's all what you can
prove you are able to do.

If you want to make the big bucks, you need to specialise. I hear Oracle
gurus make insane money. Of course, they usually commit suicide or pickle
their livers long before retirement age, but there ya go.

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JaR
Thu Jun 22 11:31:42 CDT 2006

On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 09:08:54 -0700, Jtyc cast into the ether:

> And I never claimed that I worked.

Yeah, Con says you're the worst secretary he's ever had.

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kpg
Thu Jun 22 11:55:01 CDT 2006

As JaR once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse

> Pan shows them at the top of every post.

Pan? Sounds gay.

XNews! Sounds manly.

James
Thu Jun 22 11:59:30 CDT 2006

So if all of you aren't working towards MCSE, why do you hang out in this
group?

"kpg" <no@way.com> wrote in message
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> As Cerebrus once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
>
>> # Name-Host Conflict: file://c:\temp\199515.htm (6/22/2006 9:24:08 AM)
>> #
>>
>> CBIC wrote:
>>> > I have an IT job, but am not working on my MCSE.
>>>
>>> Same here. I have a great paying job but no MCSE. I don't need one. I
>>> have my CCNA though. Yeah, I work with routers and no clusers. I love
>>> my job.
>>
>> I don't have an IT job, *and* I'm not working on my MCSE. Lethal
>> combination, eh !
>
> More like the only sane one in the bunch!

The
Thu Jun 22 12:00:28 CDT 2006

Well none of those seem to be enough for contract work.

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"James" <fake@email.com> wrote in message
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> $10?
> $20?
> $30?
> $40?
> $50?
>
> "The Rev [MCT]" <ireportbadpeople@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23uU30$glGHA.4708@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Enough...
>>
>> --
>> .rev - mct.mcngp.44
>> .
>> "It is the mark of an educated man to be able to entertain a thought
>> without accepting it"
>> ~Aristotle.
>> .
>> "James" <fake@email.com> wrote in message
>> news:uFa6DlWlGHA.4708@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Just curious, what type of hourly rates are you MSCE's in training
>>> making?
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

JaR
Thu Jun 22 12:02:31 CDT 2006

On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 09:55:01 -0700, kpg cast into the ether:

> As JaR once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
>
>> Pan shows them at the top of every post.
>
> Pan? Sounds gay.
>
> XNews! Sounds manly.

Real men are secure enough in their masculinity to use Pan.

Actually, Pan is a pretty kewl newsreader.

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Frisbee®
Thu Jun 22 12:03:26 CDT 2006

"kpg" <no@way.com> wrote in message
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> As JaR once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
>
>> Pan shows them at the top of every post.
>
> Pan? Sounds gay.
>
> XNews! Sounds manly.

Outhouse Express... sounds sh!tty.

kpg
Thu Jun 22 12:06:03 CDT 2006

As James once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse

> So if all of you aren't working towards MCSE, why do
> you hang out in this group?

Good point. Bye.

Jtyc
Thu Jun 22 12:07:58 CDT 2006

> maybe billyw rings a bell

Of course. What the heck is mugen?

Jtyc
Thu Jun 22 12:08:40 CDT 2006

> Yeah, Con says you're the worst secretary he's ever had.

Must be because I won't sleep with him.

JaR
Thu Jun 22 12:10:10 CDT 2006

On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 13:03:26 -0400, Frisbee® cast into the ether:

> Outhouse Express... sounds sh!tty.

It's called "Truth in Advertising".

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James
Thu Jun 22 12:08:01 CDT 2006

How much would a salary be then for a full time, none contract job

"The Rev [MCT]" <ireportbadpeople@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Well none of those seem to be enough for contract work.
>
> --
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> .
> "It is the mark of an educated man to be able to entertain a thought
> without accepting it"
> ~Aristotle.
> .
> "James" <fake@email.com> wrote in message
> news:Om29DhhlGHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> $10?
>> $20?
>> $30?
>> $40?
>> $50?
>>
>> "The Rev [MCT]" <ireportbadpeople@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23uU30$glGHA.4708@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Enough...
>>>
>>> --
>>> .rev - mct.mcngp.44
>>> .
>>> "It is the mark of an educated man to be able to entertain a thought
>>> without accepting it"
>>> ~Aristotle.
>>> .
>>> "James" <fake@email.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uFa6DlWlGHA.4708@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Just curious, what type of hourly rates are you MSCE's in training
>>>> making?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

JaR
Thu Jun 22 12:12:21 CDT 2006

On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 10:08:40 -0700, Jtyc cast into the ether:

>> Yeah, Con says you're the worst secretary he's ever had.
>
> Must be because I won't sleep with him.

That's prolly it.

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JaR
Thu Jun 22 12:25:57 CDT 2006

On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:08:01 -0600, James cast into the ether:

> How much would a salary be then for a full time, none contract job

Ye flipping Ghods.

Doing exactly _what_? For whom? Where?

MCSE is not a job description. Do you suffer from reading comprehension?

Have you tried Googling for "Salary Survey" + "System Administrator"

Wow.

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mugen
Thu Jun 22 12:29:40 CDT 2006

it's another alter ego..
actually high performance division of honda (they make cars)
"martha whats that hhhhonda all about"

"Jtyc" <yo@respondtothegroup.com> wrote in message
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>> maybe billyw rings a bell
>
> Of course. What the heck is mugen?
>

James
Thu Jun 22 12:40:18 CDT 2006

i assumed most msce's would have simular jobs

I don't know of many mcse's who specalize in linux or cisco...
wow yourself...


"JaR" <jrderby@lakabux.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:08:01 -0600, James cast into the ether:
>
>> How much would a salary be then for a full time, none contract job
>
> Ye flipping Ghods.
>
> Doing exactly _what_? For whom? Where?
>
> MCSE is not a job description. Do you suffer from reading comprehension?
>
> Have you tried Googling for "Salary Survey" + "System Administrator"
>
> Wow.
>
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>

Frisbee®
Thu Jun 22 12:49:45 CDT 2006

"James" <fake@email.com> wrote in message
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> So if all of you aren't working towards MCSE, why do you hang out in this
> group?

Oh come on, now I KNOW that you're trolling.

Isn't the answer obvious?

Frisbee®
Thu Jun 22 12:50:35 CDT 2006

"James" <fake@email.com> wrote in message
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>i assumed most msce's would have simular jobs

They do. Some work at McDonald's, some at Burger King, some at Wendy's...

Jtyc
Thu Jun 22 12:53:33 CDT 2006

> it's another alter ego..
> actually high performance division of honda (they make cars)
> "martha whats that hhhhonda all about"

How's business? And are you ready to hire a VP of American operations yet?

kpg
Thu Jun 22 12:57:13 CDT 2006

As Frisbee® once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse

>> So if all of you aren't working towards MCSE, why do you hang out in
>> this group?
>
> Oh come on, now I KNOW that you're trolling.
>
> Isn't the answer obvious?

Only to 10% of the population.

The
Thu Jun 22 13:13:28 CDT 2006

Aye,...they do indeed. As for what an MCSE does or specializes in?? Hmm well
nothing really. I'm mean sure I have 3 MCSE's with my designators in
Messaging and Security. But like JaR said MCSE is not a job description.

For example Dell is hiring for Tech Support MCSE Preferred. That pays about
13 bucks an hour. The Best Buy Geek Squad program started putting all their
Techs through at least A+ and the Windows XP MCP Program, and I'm sure they
don't make much of anything, not they they should cause I've met a few of
those guys....

As for me? Well the last contract I was offered was somewhere in the
neighborhood of living expenses in Seattle plus $65 per hour for 3 months.
And as for fulltime jobs...Well I get about one or two offers a week in the
$80-105 range. Among others...

Does any of that have to do with my MCSE? does it have to do with the fact I
have a couple dozen Certifications? not entirely...The Certs bring the
attention of new blood, but these offers come to me because I am who I
am....That and the fact I have friends in all the right places. :-)

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"Frisbee?" <billLASTNAME@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "James" <fake@email.com> wrote in message
> news:ukRZcMilGHA.1832@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>i assumed most msce's would have simular jobs
>
> They do. Some work at McDonald's, some at Burger King, some at Wendy's...
>

Briscobar
Thu Jun 22 13:17:09 CDT 2006

kpg <no@way.com> rambled:
>
> As Frisbee® once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
>
>>> So if all of you aren't working towards MCSE, why do you hang out in
>>> this group?
>>
>> Oh come on, now I KNOW that you're trolling.
>>
>> Isn't the answer obvious?
>
> Only to 10% of the population.

You know how they say we only use 10% of our brains? Well I think we only
use 10% of our hearts.

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Jtyc
Thu Jun 22 13:19:44 CDT 2006

> You know how they say we only use 10% of our brains? Well I think we only
> use 10% of our hearts.

You are the gh3y.

Jtyc
Thu Jun 22 13:21:33 CDT 2006

> am....That and the fact I have friends in all the right places. :-)

*sees opening*


Can I be your friend?

Briscobar
Thu Jun 22 13:26:58 CDT 2006

Jtyc <yo@respondtothegroup.com> rambled:
>
>> You know how they say we only use 10% of our brains? Well I think we
>> only use 10% of our hearts.
>
> You are the gh3y.

I'm Bobby O'Shea. Let's get drunk.

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JaR
Thu Jun 22 13:28:13 CDT 2006

On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:19:44 -0700, Jtyc cast into the ether:

> You are the gh3y.

Well aren't we just the little homophobic today?

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Jtyc
Thu Jun 22 13:33:08 CDT 2006

> Well aren't we just the little homophobic today?

Someone must fill Consultant's shoes.

Jtyc
Thu Jun 22 13:34:42 CDT 2006

> I'm Bobby O'Shea. Let's get drunk.

We have a stage 5 clinger.

Neil
Thu Jun 22 13:36:46 CDT 2006

did you hear "James" <fake@email.com> say in news:OjAmWYhlGHA.4792
@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:

> a really gross beer though...

I prefer a nice Kieth's but hey, at least it's not amurican beer...aka
water...

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Frisbee®
Thu Jun 22 13:46:20 CDT 2006

"Jtyc" <yo@respondtothegroup.com> wrote in message
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>> Well aren't we just the little homophobic today?
>
> Someone must fill Consultant's shoes.

Don't you have can't-find-the-mens-room guy to do that?

Gorm
Thu Jun 22 13:48:41 CDT 2006


"LRM" <Fskspam@friedspam.com> wrote in message
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> All gawked in amazement when: James assaulted us with:
>> Just curious, what type of hourly rates are you MSCE's in training
>> making?
>
> As an IT professional I dont make an hourly wage. I'm salaried, and I make
> more than you.
>
> --
> LRM

Personality.
In excess.
Makes all the difference (or so I'm told, anyway).

JaR
Thu Jun 22 13:53:11 CDT 2006

On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:46:20 -0400, Frisbee® cast into the ether:

>> Someone must fill Consultant's shoes.
>
> Don't you have can't-find-the-mens-room guy to do that?

Oh man.

I so saw that coming and still blew Dr. Pepper thru my nose!

ROTFL & PotD!

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JaR
Thu Jun 22 13:56:43 CDT 2006

On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:36:46 -0700, Neil cast into the ether:

> did you hear "James" <fake@email.com> say in news:OjAmWYhlGHA.4792
> @TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:
>
>> a really gross beer though...
>
> I prefer a nice Kieth's but hey, at least it's not amurican beer...aka
> water...

News Flash!

Not all Murrican beer is yellow fizzy water.

http://www.deschutesbrewery.com/splash/default.aspx

The Pale Ale or the Porter are highly recommended.

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Jtyc
Thu Jun 22 14:07:43 CDT 2006

>> Someone must fill Consultant's shoes.
> Don't you have can't-find-the-mens-room guy to do that?

He wouldn't fill his shoes... more like... submerge them in filth.
Desecrate them...

MitchS
Thu Jun 22 14:07:55 CDT 2006

"Briscobar" <youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in message
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> kpg <no@way.com> rambled:
>>
>> As Frisbee® once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
>>
>>>> So if all of you aren't working towards MCSE, why do you hang out in
>>>> this group?
>>>
>>> Oh come on, now I KNOW that you're trolling.
>>>
>>> Isn't the answer obvious?
>>
>> Only to 10% of the population.
>
> You know how they say we only use 10% of our brains? Well I think we only
> use 10% of our hearts.

You pansy liberal!

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Stan
Thu Jun 22 14:52:27 CDT 2006

The MCNGP members hang around here because they have no jobs and no friends.

"James" <fake@email.com> wrote in message
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> So if all of you aren't working towards MCSE, why do you hang out in this
> group?
>
> "kpg" <no@way.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns97EA5FB651D7Bipostthereforeiam@127.0.0.1...
>> As Cerebrus once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
>>
>>> # Name-Host Conflict: file://c:\temp\199515.htm (6/22/2006 9:24:08 AM)
>>> #
>>>
>>> CBIC wrote:
>>>> > I have an IT job, but am not working on my MCSE.
>>>>
>>>> Same here. I have a great paying job but no MCSE. I don't need one. I
>>>> have my CCNA though. Yeah, I work with routers and no clusers. I love
>>>> my job.
>>>
>>> I don't have an IT job, *and* I'm not working on my MCSE. Lethal
>>> combination, eh !
>>
>> More like the only sane one in the bunch!
>
>

The
Thu Jun 22 14:54:37 CDT 2006

Sure ya can. now get me a beer.

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"Jtyc" <yo@respondtothegroup.com> wrote in message
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>> am....That and the fact I have friends in all the right places. :-)
>
> *sees opening*
>
>
> Can I be your friend?
>

Jtyc
Thu Jun 22 15:21:06 CDT 2006

> Sure ya can. now get me a beer.

One Michelob Ultra coming up!!

James
Thu Jun 22 15:43:43 CDT 2006

hmmmm
I think I am going to marinate my steak in kokane gold tonight...
mmmmm beer steak....

"Jtyc" <yo@respondtothegroup.com> wrote in message
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>> Sure ya can. now get me a beer.
>
> One Michelob Ultra coming up!!
>

Neil
Thu Jun 22 15:56:43 CDT 2006

did you hear JaR <jrderby@lakabux.com> say in
news:pan.2006.06.22.18.56.43.500877@lakabux.com:

> On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:36:46 -0700, Neil cast into the ether:
>
>> did you hear "James" <fake@email.com> say in news:OjAmWYhlGHA.4792
>> @TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:
>>
>>> a really gross beer