hi,

that's basically the long and short of my question right there.

i know about clicking the windows components button and i've restarted my
desktop since then but i still can't view http://www.localhost and
http://www.localhostnorthwind

anyone care to opine?

thanks,

-ted

Re: How To Start IIS On Windows XP Pro? (a newbie asks) by Tom

Tom
Mon Oct 10 15:40:28 CDT 2005

"Ted" <Ted@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6F013B59-C862-45CF-868B-3C89B0D2AD7F@microsoft.com...
> hi,
>
> that's basically the long and short of my question right there.
>
> i know about clicking the windows components button and i've restarted my
> desktop since then but i still can't view http://www.localhost and
> http://www.localhostnorthwind
>
> anyone care to opine?

Look in the Services control panel applet and either manually start the
World Wide Web Publishing service or set it to automatic. Alternatively, at
a command prompt type "net start w3svc".

Are you sure that's the problem?

--
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Re: How To Start IIS On Windows XP Pro? (a newbie asks) by Ted

Ted
Mon Oct 10 16:11:07 CDT 2005

no, tom, i'm not sure that's the problem; i'm getting this suggestion from a
tech'n at a software vendor. i used your command prompt idea and those two
addresses still fail to respond to the helm. perhaps i need to reboot the
desktop?

-ted

"Tom Kaminski [MVP]" wrote:

> "Ted" <Ted@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:6F013B59-C862-45CF-868B-3C89B0D2AD7F@microsoft.com...
> > hi,
> >
> > that's basically the long and short of my question right there.
> >
> > i know about clicking the windows components button and i've restarted my
> > desktop since then but i still can't view http://www.localhost and
> > http://www.localhostnorthwind
> >
> > anyone care to opine?
>
> Look in the Services control panel applet and either manually start the
> World Wide Web Publishing service or set it to automatic. Alternatively, at
> a command prompt type "net start w3svc".
>
> Are you sure that's the problem?
>
> --
> Tom Kaminski IIS MVP
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/community/centers/iis/
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> http://www.iistoolshed.com/ - tools, scripts, and utilities for running IIS
>
>
>

Re: How To Start IIS On Windows XP Pro? (a newbie asks) by Ken

Ken
Mon Oct 10 20:27:29 CDT 2005

Hi,

http://localhost (not http://www.localhost) is predefined in Windows. That
points to the local machine.

Neither http://localhostnorthwind nor http://www.localhost are defined "out
of the box" in Windows. So unless you manually add these entries to your
HOSTS file, or add entries for these names to your DNS servers, they will
not resolve.

I would try http://localhost and see if that works.

Cheers
Ken


"Ted" <Ted@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:507B0C95-2E81-402C-9F37-E3F81F601C56@microsoft.com...
: no, tom, i'm not sure that's the problem; i'm getting this suggestion from
a
: tech'n at a software vendor. i used your command prompt idea and those two
: addresses still fail to respond to the helm. perhaps i need to reboot the
: desktop?
:
: -ted
:
: "Tom Kaminski [MVP]" wrote:
:
: > "Ted" <Ted@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
: > news:6F013B59-C862-45CF-868B-3C89B0D2AD7F@microsoft.com...
: > > hi,
: > >
: > > that's basically the long and short of my question right there.
: > >
: > > i know about clicking the windows components button and i've restarted
my
: > > desktop since then but i still can't view http://www.localhost and
: > > http://www.localhostnorthwind
: > >
: > > anyone care to opine?
: >
: > Look in the Services control panel applet and either manually start the
: > World Wide Web Publishing service or set it to automatic.
Alternatively, at
: > a command prompt type "net start w3svc".
: >
: > Are you sure that's the problem?
: >
: > --
: > Tom Kaminski IIS MVP
: > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/community/centers/iis/
: > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
: > http://www.iistoolshed.com/ - tools, scripts, and utilities for running
IIS
: >
: >
: >



Re: How To Start IIS On Windows XP Pro? (a newbie asks) by Tom

Tom
Tue Oct 11 07:42:01 CDT 2005

"Ken Schaefer" <kenREMOVE@THISadOpenStatic.com> wrote in message
news:exJG0LgzFHA.1252@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Neither http://localhostnorthwind nor http://www.localhost are defined
> "out
> of the box" in Windows. So unless you manually add these entries to your
> HOSTS file, or add entries for these names to your DNS servers, they will
> not resolve.

Good catch Ken!

--
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Re: How To Start IIS On Windows XP Pro? (a newbie asks) by Ted

Ted
Tue Oct 11 09:01:07 CDT 2005

i'd love to hit that 'Did this post answer the question' button gents (Ken
and Tom in alphabetic order) but i'm not sitting at that machine just now.
it'll have to wait 'til tonight. i'm keepin' my fingers X-ed.

with much thanks whatever happens,

-ted

"Tom Kaminski [MVP]" wrote:

> "Ken Schaefer" <kenREMOVE@THISadOpenStatic.com> wrote in message
> news:exJG0LgzFHA.1252@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > Neither http://localhostnorthwind nor http://www.localhost are defined
> > "out
> > of the box" in Windows. So unless you manually add these entries to your
> > HOSTS file, or add entries for these names to your DNS servers, they will
> > not resolve.
>
> Good catch Ken!
>
> --
> Tom Kaminski IIS MVP
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/community/centers/iis/
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> http://www.iistoolshed.com/ - tools, scripts, and utilities for running IIS
>
>
>

Re: How To Start IIS On Windows XP Pro? (a newbie asks) by Ted

Ted
Tue Oct 11 21:01:03 CDT 2005

ken or tom:

how'd i add this to my "HOSTS" file (i've seen it somewhere on this XP PRO
equipped pc of mine, but where is it hiding and how'd i go about implementing
this). OR for that matter, how'd i "add entries for these names to your DNS
servers" which i confess is a term i'm unacquainted with.

-ted

"Tom Kaminski [MVP]" wrote:

> "Ken Schaefer" <kenREMOVE@THISadOpenStatic.com> wrote in message
> news:exJG0LgzFHA.1252@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > Neither http://localhostnorthwind nor http://www.localhost are defined
> > "out
> > of the box" in Windows. So unless you manually add these entries to your
> > HOSTS file, or add entries for these names to your DNS servers, they will
> > not resolve.
>
> Good catch Ken!
>
> --
> Tom Kaminski IIS MVP
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/community/centers/iis/
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> http://www.iistoolshed.com/ - tools, scripts, and utilities for running IIS
>
>
>

Re: How To Start IIS On Windows XP Pro? (a newbie asks) by Tom

Tom
Wed Oct 12 08:51:24 CDT 2005

"Ted" <Ted@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:CB7C9E4F-BDB1-41F2-98B2-CC8B32AFDB01@microsoft.com...
> ken or tom:
>
> how'd i add this to my "HOSTS" file (i've seen it somewhere on this XP PRO
> equipped pc of mine, but where is it hiding and how'd i go about
> implementing
> this). OR for that matter, how'd i "add entries for these names to your
> DNS
> servers" which i confess is a term i'm unacquainted with.

See the section "Adding Static Clients to the Hosts File":
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=309642

--
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http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/community/centers/iis/
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
http://www.iistoolshed.com/ - tools, scripts, and utilities for running IIS



Re: How To Start IIS On Windows XP Pro? (a newbie asks) by Ted

Ted
Wed Oct 12 18:50:01 CDT 2005

i wish i were famiillar with what it's talking about.

"Tom Kaminski [MVP]" wrote:

> "Ted" <Ted@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:CB7C9E4F-BDB1-41F2-98B2-CC8B32AFDB01@microsoft.com...
> > ken or tom:
> >
> > how'd i add this to my "HOSTS" file (i've seen it somewhere on this XP PRO
> > equipped pc of mine, but where is it hiding and how'd i go about
> > implementing
> > this). OR for that matter, how'd i "add entries for these names to your
> > DNS
> > servers" which i confess is a term i'm unacquainted with.
>
> See the section "Adding Static Clients to the Hosts File":
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=309642
>
> --
> Tom Kaminski IIS MVP
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/community/centers/iis/
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> http://www.iistoolshed.com/ - tools, scripts, and utilities for running IIS
>
>
>

Re: How To Start IIS On Windows XP Pro? (a newbie asks) by Tom

Tom
Thu Oct 13 11:18:04 CDT 2005

"Ted" <Ted@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D56AF3F0-1203-430B-98F5-754B3CA232CB@microsoft.com...
>i wish i were famiillar with what it's talking about.

That section is very straight-forward and steps you through what you have to
do. See the section "Adding Static Clients to the Hosts File":
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=309642

Just add a line for 127.0.0.1 and the name you want to use.

--
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http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
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Re: How To Start IIS On Windows XP Pro? (a newbie asks) by Ted

Ted
Thu Oct 13 23:20:58 CDT 2005

tom,

i found or think i found the file you mean and i clipped a few lines from it
that i'am pasting below:


# This MVPS HOSTS file is a free download from: #
# http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/ #
# #
# Notes: the browser does not read this "#" symbol #
# You can create your own notes, after the # symbol #
# This *must* be the first line: 127.0.0.1 localhost #
# ********************************************************#
# ------------------Updated: 05-17-05---------------------#
# ********************************************************#
# Entries marked with Parasite or Trojan comments should #
# be placed in the Internet Explorer Restricted Zone. #
# http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/restricted.htm #
# #
# Entries with other comments are searchable via Google. #
# #
# Disclaimer: this file is free to use, however it is NOT #
# permitted to post on any other site without permission. #
# #
# This work is licensed under the Creative Commons #
# Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike License. #
# http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/ #
127.0.0.1 localhost
#start of lines added by WinHelp2002
# [Misc Add-ons][A - Z]
127.0.0.1 acestats.com
127.0.0.1 www.acestats.com
127.0.0.1 www.activesearch.com #[Adware.ActiveSearch]
127.0.0.1 actualnames.com #[Parasite.ActualNames][Spyware.ActualNames]
127.0.0.1 www.actualnames.com
127.0.0.1 ad-up.com
127.0.0.1 www.ad-up.com
........
........


as you can see, the line you suggested be added to it is/was already in it.

so why am i not getting things to work as intended. what am i needing to do?

-ted

"Tom Kaminski [MVP]" wrote:

> "Ted" <Ted@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:D56AF3F0-1203-430B-98F5-754B3CA232CB@microsoft.com...
> >i wish i were famiillar with what it's talking about.
>
> That section is very straight-forward and steps you through what you have to
> do. See the section "Adding Static Clients to the Hosts File":
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=309642
>
> Just add a line for 127.0.0.1 and the name you want to use.
>
> --
> Tom Kaminski IIS MVP
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/community/centers/iis/
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> http://www.iistoolshed.com/ - tools, scripts, and utilities for running IIS
>
>
>

Re: How To Start IIS On Windows XP Pro? (a newbie asks) by Tom

Tom
Fri Oct 14 08:30:23 CDT 2005

"Ted" <Ted@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:47223AEF-0A6A-4513-B934-27C386CFF52E@microsoft.com...
> tom,
>
> i found or think i found the file you mean and i clipped a few lines from
> it
> that i'am pasting below:
>
>
> # This MVPS HOSTS file is a free download from: #
> # http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/ #
> # #
> # Notes: the browser does not read this "#" symbol #
> # You can create your own notes, after the # symbol #
> # This *must* be the first line: 127.0.0.1 localhost #
> # ********************************************************#
> # ------------------Updated: 05-17-05---------------------#
> # ********************************************************#
> # Entries marked with Parasite or Trojan comments should #
> # be placed in the Internet Explorer Restricted Zone. #
> # http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/restricted.htm #
> # #
> # Entries with other comments are searchable via Google. #
> # #
> # Disclaimer: this file is free to use, however it is NOT #
> # permitted to post on any other site without permission. #
> # #
> # This work is licensed under the Creative Commons #
> # Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike License. #
> # http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/ #
> 127.0.0.1 localhost
> #start of lines added by WinHelp2002
> # [Misc Add-ons][A - Z]
> 127.0.0.1 acestats.com
> 127.0.0.1 www.acestats.com
> 127.0.0.1 www.activesearch.com #[Adware.ActiveSearch]
> 127.0.0.1 actualnames.com #[Parasite.ActualNames][Spyware.ActualNames]
> 127.0.0.1 www.actualnames.com
> 127.0.0.1 ad-up.com
> 127.0.0.1 www.ad-up.com
> ........
> ........
>
>
> as you can see, the line you suggested be added to it is/was already in
> it.
>
> so why am i not getting things to work as intended. what am i needing to
> do?

It is? Show me where ... neither localhostnorthwind or www.localhost are
listed here ...

Why do you have to use those anyway? http://localhost should be just fine.

--
Tom Kaminski IIS MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/community/centers/iis/
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
http://www.iistoolshed.com/ - tools, scripts, and utilities for running IIS



Re: How To Start IIS On Windows XP Pro? (a newbie asks) by Ted

Ted
Fri Oct 14 09:42:05 CDT 2005

tom, do you see where it says 127.0.0.1 localhost ? if i typed in
http://localhost then that should work? is that what you're telling me? i'm
not at my home desktop until tonight, however, i think i already used it and
it didn't. what would that seem to imply?

on another, albeit, related topic.....if i want to type in
http://localhost/northwind and have it work, what needs doing to the hosts
file, if anything?

thanks for all the good advice.

-ted


"Tom Kaminski [MVP]" wrote:

> "Ted" <Ted@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:47223AEF-0A6A-4513-B934-27C386CFF52E@microsoft.com...
> > tom,
> >
> > i found or think i found the file you mean and i clipped a few lines from
> > it
> > that i'am pasting below:
> >
> >
> > # This MVPS HOSTS file is a free download from: #
> > # http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/ #
> > # #
> > # Notes: the browser does not read this "#" symbol #
> > # You can create your own notes, after the # symbol #
> > # This *must* be the first line: 127.0.0.1 localhost #
> > # ********************************************************#
> > # ------------------Updated: 05-17-05---------------------#
> > # ********************************************************#
> > # Entries marked with Parasite or Trojan comments should #
> > # be placed in the Internet Explorer Restricted Zone. #
> > # http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/restricted.htm #
> > # #
> > # Entries with other comments are searchable via Google. #
> > # #
> > # Disclaimer: this file is free to use, however it is NOT #
> > # permitted to post on any other site without permission. #
> > # #
> > # This work is licensed under the Creative Commons #
> > # Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike License. #
> > # http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/ #
> > 127.0.0.1 localhost
> > #start of lines added by WinHelp2002
> > # [Misc Add-ons][A - Z]
> > 127.0.0.1 acestats.com
> > 127.0.0.1 www.acestats.com
> > 127.0.0.1 www.activesearch.com #[Adware.ActiveSearch]
> > 127.0.0.1 actualnames.com #[Parasite.ActualNames][Spyware.ActualNames]
> > 127.0.0.1 www.actualnames.com
> > 127.0.0.1 ad-up.com
> > 127.0.0.1 www.ad-up.com
> > ........
> > ........
> >
> >
> > as you can see, the line you suggested be added to it is/was already in
> > it.
> >
> > so why am i not getting things to work as intended. what am i needing to
> > do?
>
> It is? Show me where ... neither localhostnorthwind or www.localhost are
> listed here ...
>
> Why do you have to use those anyway? http://localhost should be just fine.
>
> --
> Tom Kaminski IIS MVP
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/community/centers/iis/
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> http://www.iistoolshed.com/ - tools, scripts, and utilities for running IIS
>
>
>

Re: How To Start IIS On Windows XP Pro? (a newbie asks) by Tom

Tom
Fri Oct 14 14:17:11 CDT 2005

"Ted" <Ted@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5C40D675-4D4E-4EEF-BBC2-5A0E322CD93C@microsoft.com...
> tom, do you see where it says 127.0.0.1 localhost ? if i typed in
> http://localhost then that should work? is that what you're telling me?
> i'm
> not at my home desktop until tonight, however, i think i already used it
> and
> it didn't. what would that seem to imply?

Yes, that should work. If it does not, make sure friendly error msaages are
disbaled in IE and post back the exact error message you get. You could
also try connecting to http://127.0.0.1 ...

> on another, albeit, related topic.....if i want to type in
> http://localhost/northwind and have it work, what needs doing to the hosts
> file, if anything?

Nothing - the host is still just "localhost". "/northwind" is a folder on
that host.

--
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Re: How To Start IIS On Windows XP Pro? (a newbie asks) by Ted

Ted
Fri Oct 14 18:37:03 CDT 2005

i disabled the friendly error messages button. at the bottom of "The Page
Cannot Be Displayed" screen which resulted when i type in "http://127.0.0.1"
is the pair of sentences:

Cannot find server or DNS Error
Internet Explorer

appearing just as they do above.

i hope this is helpful. i just want to add the fact that i have a "broadband
firewall router" attached to my desktop and cablemodem. is this a factor?

with best regards,

-ted

"Tom Kaminski [MVP]" wrote:

> "Ted" <Ted@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:5C40D675-4D4E-4EEF-BBC2-5A0E322CD93C@microsoft.com...
> > tom, do you see where it says 127.0.0.1 localhost ? if i typed in
> > http://localhost then that should work? is that what you're telling me?
> > i'm
> > not at my home desktop until tonight, however, i think i already used it
> > and
> > it didn't. what would that seem to imply?
>
> Yes, that should work. If it does not, make sure friendly error msaages are
> disbaled in IE and post back the exact error message you get. You could
> also try connecting to http://127.0.0.1 ...
>
> > on another, albeit, related topic.....if i want to type in
> > http://localhost/northwind and have it work, what needs doing to the hosts
> > file, if anything?
>
> Nothing - the host is still just "localhost". "/northwind" is a folder on
> that host.
>
> --
> Tom Kaminski IIS MVP
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/community/centers/iis/
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> http://www.iistoolshed.com/ - tools, scripts, and utilities for running IIS
>
>
>

Re: How To Start IIS On Windows XP Pro? (a newbie asks) by Tom

Tom
Mon Oct 17 07:50:30 CDT 2005

"Ted" <Ted@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9BC6082A-C5A8-4C47-9A67-65D8F0EB0DBC@microsoft.com...
>i disabled the friendly error messages button. at the bottom of "The Page
> Cannot Be Displayed" screen which resulted when i type in
> "http://127.0.0.1"
> is the pair of sentences:
>
> Cannot find server or DNS Error
> Internet Explorer
>
> appearing just as they do above.
>
> i hope this is helpful. i just want to add the fact that i have a
> "broadband
> firewall router" attached to my desktop and cablemodem. is this a factor?

Probably not. Do you have the XP 2 firewall enabled?
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=883607

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Re: How To Start IIS On Windows XP Pro? (a newbie asks) by Ted

Ted
Mon Oct 17 18:30:03 CDT 2005

the screen that tells you the answer says that xp firewall isn's enabled.

"Tom Kaminski [MVP]" wrote:

> "Ted" <Ted@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:9BC6082A-C5A8-4C47-9A67-65D8F0EB0DBC@microsoft.com...
> >i disabled the friendly error messages button. at the bottom of "The Page
> > Cannot Be Displayed" screen which resulted when i type in
> > "http://127.0.0.1"
> > is the pair of sentences:
> >
> > Cannot find server or DNS Error
> > Internet Explorer
> >
> > appearing just as th