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Wed Jun 30 15:46:29 CDT 2004
"Jeff Cochran" <jeff.nospam@zina.com> wrote in message
news:40e41d45.457880747@msnews.microsoft.com...
> On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:07:31 -0700, "root" <postmaster@buchanangc.com>
> wrote:
>
> >So it's not possible at the authoritative NS level to say/assign that
> >ftp.firstsite.com uses port 21 and ftp.secondsite.com uses port 22(what's
a
> >good 2nd ftp port number?) such that an Internet user need only enter
> >ftp.firstsite.com or ftp.secondiste.com and be directed to the correct
ftp
> >site??
>
> No.
Having researched the format of the A record and the zone file in the mean
time I came to the same conclusion.
So I guess that the overall conclusion is that separate anonymous FTP sites
require separate IPs. They simplified/eliminated this requirement for www
with the header lookup and I made the naive assumption that the same had
been done with ftp.
> >"Jeff Cochran" <jeff.nospam@zina.com> wrote in message
> >news:40f50ccb.453663012@msnews.microsoft.com...
> >> On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 11:02:58 -0700, "root" <postmaster@buchanangc.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Paul Lynch" <paul.lynch@nospam.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:n4u4e09e635vg9hu12uo82854n3n1hkt2f@4ax.com...
> >> >> On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 23:02:05 -0700, "root"
<postmaster@buchanangc.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"root" <postmaster@buchanangc.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >news:OsfTmImXEHA.1980@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> I'm trying to configure IIS6 in SBS2003 and I'm stuck of ftp. I
> >know
> >> >how
> >> >> >to
> >> >> >> do the host header setup for multiple web sites on the same fixed
> >IP.
> >> >Now
> >> >> >I
> >> >> >> am trying to setup ftp sites on more than one of these separate
web
> >> >sites.
> >> >> >> I made the naive assumption that the ftp sites would be
similarily
> >> >> >> differentiated by some kind of host header type functionality.
It
> >wont
> >> >> >let
> >> >> >> me setup the second ftp site because it says it has the same IP
and
> >> >port
> >> >> >and
> >> >> >> I find nothing equivalent to host headers in ftp setup. How do I
> >get
> >> >> >there
> >> >> >> from here, please?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I seem to have found at least part of my own answer here:
> >> >>
> >>
>
>>>
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/WindowsServ/2003/standar
d
> >/
> >>
>
>>proddocs/en-us/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/windowsserv/2003/s
t
> >a
> >> >ndard/proddocs/en-us/wsa_ftp_createmultsite.asp?sd=gn&ln=en-us&gssnb=1
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Creating Multiple FTP Sites"
> >> >> >
> >> >> >This seems to be saying that different IPs or different ports is
the
> >only
> >> >> >way.
> >> >> >What ports would be typical for a 2nd or 3rd FTP site.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >There's a way for one to get one's ISP to have multiple A-records
for
> >> >> >additional subdomains etc for one's web site. The A-records for
this
> >IP
> >> >> >already contain entries for the 2 sites in question ex:
> >> >> >www.firstsite.com
> >> >> >ftp.firstsite.com
> >> >> >www.secondsite.com
> >> >> >ftp.secondsite.com
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Now does an ISP generally have the capacity to assign to one of
those
> >FTP
> >> >> >entires a port different than than the default FTP port 21? If so
> >then
> >> >that
> >> >> >would appear to solve the problem except possibly for internal LAN
> >access
> >> >to
> >> >> >the same multiple FTP sites.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Am I on the right track?
> >> >>
> >> >> No, you're on the wrong track. You don't need to use different ports
> >> >> to achieve this; that would be a nightmare to implement and would
> >> >> cause all kinds of support headaches, especially in an ISP
> >> >> environment. This is largely the reason MS introduced the User
> >> >> Isolation feature in the IIS6 FTP service.
> >> >>
> >> >> All you need to do is point ftp.firstsite.com and ftp.secondsite.com
> >> >> at the same IP address and then configure user isolation within one
> >> >> FTP site in IIS.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >I don't want to isolate users. I want to isolate ftp sites. In the
> >context
> >> >of what you are saying how does one present an annomous ftp user with
two
> >> >entirely different FTP sites depending on whether that user originally
> >> >entered ftp.firstsite.com versus ftp.secondsite.com? What does the
> >concept
> >> >of "user" have to do with this?
> >>
> >> If you *must* use separate sites, then you have a choice of separate
> >> ports or separate IP addresses. Ports have to be specified on the FTP
> >> command if they aren't the default, so separate IP's is usually the
> >> only viable option.
> >>
> >> But you can do as Paul has said and use user isolation, with each FTP
> >> "site" pointed at one IP, and when the user logs in they are in thier
> >> own folders. This is done in DNS, so that both domains point to the
> >> same FTP server.
> >>
> >> Jeff
> >>
> >> >> Then your users will be re-directed to their own
> >> >> directories and will not be aware that other content is being hosted
> >> >> by what is effectively the same FTP site.
> >> >>
> >> >> You can find all you need to know about setting this up here :
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
>
>>
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/iis/6/all/proddocs/en-us/
w
> >sa_ftp_isolate.mspx
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >>
> >> >> Paul Lynch
> >> >> MCSE
> >> >
> >>
> >
>