maintain the size of an image file (jpeg)

I am a newbie to this so let me know if I need to post this somewhere else,
otherwise your help would be greatly appreciated.

I have taken my first stab at a website and i have scanned in some images to
the site and have some hyperlinks to the images, but the images come up at a
different size other than the scanned size, and they look pixelized. If I
view the images on my PC using Windows Picture and Fax Viewer they look
perfect...just like the source. How can I make sure that the picture size
is not changed by IE when the hyperlink is clicked on (I want the images to
look just a sharp as when I use Windows Picture and Fax Viewer)?

J

johncello
Tue Dec 28 08:13:05 CST 2004

J:

If available to you, it's always a good idea to optimize a picture,
especially a scanned image, in a graphics editing package. This way you can
crop it to only have the content you want, select the appropriate level of
compression, size it, etc.

Also, rather than having a link to the image, try placing it on a page by
doing an Insert...Picture...From File. This will enable you to place and size
the graphic in an aesthetically pleasing manner.

That said, at the very least, right click on the picture in design view, and
from the Picture Properties dialog, select the height & width in pixels you
want the picture displayed in.

If you have several images, explore the options of the photo gallery in FP.

Hope this helps.

John Cello
www.johncelloconsulting.com

"J" wrote:

> I am a newbie to this so let me know if I need to post this somewhere else,
> otherwise your help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> I have taken my first stab at a website and i have scanned in some images to
> the site and have some hyperlinks to the images, but the images come up at a
> different size other than the scanned size, and they look pixelized. If I
> view the images on my PC using Windows Picture and Fax Viewer they look
> perfect...just like the source. How can I make sure that the picture size
> is not changed by IE when the hyperlink is clicked on (I want the images to
> look just a sharp as when I use Windows Picture and Fax Viewer)?
>
> J
>
>
>

Johnny
Sun Jan 02 16:46:40 CST 2005

You can reach me here:

Todd Ullum
5963 Whitefield Street
Dearborn Heights, Michigan
48127
The diesel mechanic money is absolutely insane!!

Murray
Sun Jan 02 19:17:38 CST 2005

See my reply to your other curious post.

--
Murray

"Johnny Bravo" <tullum@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
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> You can reach me here:
>
> Todd Ullum
> 5963 Whitefield Street
> Dearborn Heights, Michigan
> 48127
> The diesel mechanic money is absolutely insane!!
>

J
Thu Jan 27 10:30:39 CST 2005

Anyone?

J


"J" <dontsendemail@me.com> wrote in message
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>I am a newbie to this so let me know if I need to post this somewhere else,
>otherwise your help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> I have taken my first stab at a website and i have scanned in some images
> to the site and have some hyperlinks to the images, but the images come up
> at a different size other than the scanned size, and they look pixelized.
> If I view the images on my PC using Windows Picture and Fax Viewer they
> look perfect...just like the source. How can I make sure that the picture
> size is not changed by IE when the hyperlink is clicked on (I want the
> images to look just a sharp as when I use Windows Picture and Fax Viewer)?
>
> J
>

Murray
Thu Jan 27 10:40:31 CST 2005

How large is the image after you have scanned it (I mean dimensionally how
large is it)?

How large is the image on the web page (dimensionally)?

What kind of image is it - photo or line art?

--
Murray

"J" <dontsendemail@me.com> wrote in message
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> Anyone?
>
> J
>
>
> "J" <dontsendemail@me.com> wrote in message
> news:uCRbGaH7EHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>I am a newbie to this so let me know if I need to post this somewhere
>>else, otherwise your help would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> I have taken my first stab at a website and i have scanned in some images
>> to the site and have some hyperlinks to the images, but the images come
>> up at a different size other than the scanned size, and they look
>> pixelized. If I view the images on my PC using Windows Picture and Fax
>> Viewer they look perfect...just like the source. How can I make sure
>> that the picture size is not changed by IE when the hyperlink is clicked
>> on (I want the images to look just a sharp as when I use Windows Picture
>> and Fax Viewer)?
>>
>> J
>>
>
>

J
Thu Jan 27 15:40:36 CST 2005

scanned photo images from a standard sized catalog (8.5x11). I am trying to
make the size of the image the same size of the actual catalog (8.5x11). I
was hoping to be able to make the images viewable with the windows picture
and fax viewer. It seems that program can resize the image and it it
legible (since there is text on the scanned images as well) no matter what
the size is scaled down or up to. I am basically trying to put this catalog
up on the web.

J

"Murray" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
news:%236PLo7IBFHA.208@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> How large is the image after you have scanned it (I mean dimensionally how
> large is it)?
>
> How large is the image on the web page (dimensionally)?
>
> What kind of image is it - photo or line art?
>
> --
> Murray
>
> "J" <dontsendemail@me.com> wrote in message
> news:O$k1n2IBFHA.3592@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> Anyone?
>>
>> J
>>
>>
>> "J" <dontsendemail@me.com> wrote in message
>> news:uCRbGaH7EHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>I am a newbie to this so let me know if I need to post this somewhere
>>>else, otherwise your help would be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> I have taken my first stab at a website and i have scanned in some
>>> images to the site and have some hyperlinks to the images, but the
>>> images come up at a different size other than the scanned size, and they
>>> look pixelized. If I view the images on my PC using Windows Picture and
>>> Fax Viewer they look perfect...just like the source. How can I make
>>> sure that the picture size is not changed by IE when the hyperlink is
>>> clicked on (I want the images to look just a sharp as when I use Windows
>>> Picture and Fax Viewer)?
>>>
>>> J
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Murray
Thu Jan 27 16:00:33 CST 2005

OK - so let's go with that. What format are the images saved in? I will
assume JPG for purposes of argument.

On a 1024x768 screen, and assuming 96ppi (pixels per inch), an 8.5x11 image
is 8.5*96 pixels wide by 11*96 pixels wide. Altogether that would be
816pixels X 1056 pixels or 861,700 pixels square roughly. That's pretty big
assuming 1 byte per pixel. The JPG compression is not too bad - let's
assume 90% of the image can be compressed. Even so, each image is 86K.
That's big. In addition it's bigger than some screens you are likely to
have visiting your site, which is awkward.

Here's what I think you ought to do. Open each image in a graphics editing
program and resize it to - say - 600 wide by whatever height. That should
be your largest image. When you put it on the web page, make sure that you
leave it at that size - in other words, do not resize the image in the
browser.

Does that make sense?

--
Murray

"J" <dontsendemail@me.com> wrote in message
news:eohL2jLBFHA.2792@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> scanned photo images from a standard sized catalog (8.5x11). I am trying
> to make the size of the image the same size of the actual catalog
> (8.5x11). I was hoping to be able to make the images viewable with the
> windows picture and fax viewer. It seems that program can resize the
> image and it it legible (since there is text on the scanned images as
> well) no matter what the size is scaled down or up to. I am basically
> trying to put this catalog up on the web.
>
> J
>
> "Murray" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
> news:%236PLo7IBFHA.208@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> How large is the image after you have scanned it (I mean dimensionally
>> how large is it)?
>>
>> How large is the image on the web page (dimensionally)?
>>
>> What kind of image is it - photo or line art?
>>
>> --
>> Murray
>>
>> "J" <dontsendemail@me.com> wrote in message
>> news:O$k1n2IBFHA.3592@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>> Anyone?
>>>
>>> J
>>>
>>>
>>> "J" <dontsendemail@me.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uCRbGaH7EHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>>I am a newbie to this so let me know if I need to post this somewhere
>>>>else, otherwise your help would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> I have taken my first stab at a website and i have scanned in some
>>>> images to the site and have some hyperlinks to the images, but the
>>>> images come up at a different size other than the scanned size, and
>>>> they look pixelized. If I view the images on my PC using Windows
>>>> Picture and Fax Viewer they look perfect...just like the source. How
>>>> can I make sure that the picture size is not changed by IE when the
>>>> hyperlink is clicked on (I want the images to look just a sharp as when
>>>> I use Windows Picture and Fax Viewer)?
>>>>
>>>> J
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Tom
Thu Jan 27 21:41:55 CST 2005


"Murray" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
news:eWdYduLBFHA.2428@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> OK - so let's go with that. What format are the images saved in? I
> will assume JPG for purposes of argument.
>
> On a 1024x768 screen, and assuming 96ppi (pixels per inch), an
> 8.5x11 image is 8.5*96 pixels wide by 11*96 pixels wide. Altogether
> that would be 816pixels X 1056 pixels or 861,700 pixels square
> roughly. That's pretty big assuming 1 byte per pixel. The JPG
> compression is not too bad - let's assume 90% of the image can be
> compressed. Even so, each image is 86K. That's big. In addition
> it's bigger than some screens you are likely to have visiting your
> site, which is awkward.
>
> Here's what I think you ought to do. Open each image in a graphics
> editing program and resize it to - say - 600 wide by whatever
> height. That should be your largest image. When you put it on the
> web page, make sure that you leave it at that size - in other words,
> do not resize the image in the browser.
>
> Does that make sense?
>
> --
> Murray

Just to add to what you just said, after resizing, load the image into
Paint and save. That will reduce the weight of it by about 1/2. Just
finished doing a bunch.

Tom J

Murray
Fri Jan 28 06:09:35 CST 2005

Hmm - *saving* an image, in and of itself, does nothing to reduce the weight
of it. Adjusting the parameters with which it is saved (like the quality in
a JPG, or the number of colors in a GIF) are what affect the final weight of
the image, since you are removing pixels (effectively) when you do that. I
assumed that after the resize, you would have then exported/saved the image
at the MINIMUM acceptible quality already. In this case, opening and saving
again would not be expected to have any beneficial effect, and may in fact
degrade things beyond that minimum acceptability level.

One of the worst things you can do to a JPG image, by the way, is to JPG it
again, so to speak.

--
Murray

"Tom J" <tomj_ga@despammed.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Murray" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
> news:eWdYduLBFHA.2428@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> OK - so let's go with that. What format are the images saved in? I will
>> assume JPG for purposes of argument.
>>
>> On a 1024x768 screen, and assuming 96ppi (pixels per inch), an 8.5x11
>> image is 8.5*96 pixels wide by 11*96 pixels wide. Altogether that would
>> be 816pixels X 1056 pixels or 861,700 pixels square roughly. That's
>> pretty big assuming 1 byte per pixel. The JPG compression is not too
>> bad - let's assume 90% of the image can be compressed. Even so, each
>> image is 86K. That's big. In addition it's bigger than some screens you
>> are likely to have visiting your site, which is awkward.
>>
>> Here's what I think you ought to do. Open each image in a graphics
>> editing program and resize it to - say - 600 wide by whatever height.
>> That should be your largest image. When you put it on the web page, make
>> sure that you leave it at that size - in other words, do not resize the
>> image in the browser.
>>
>> Does that make sense?
>>
>> --
>> Murray
>
> Just to add to what you just said, after resizing, load the image into
> Paint and save. That will reduce the weight of it by about 1/2. Just
> finished doing a bunch.
>
> Tom J
>

Tom
Fri Jan 28 10:56:47 CST 2005


"Murray" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
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> Hmm - *saving* an image, in and of itself, does nothing to reduce
> the weight of it. Adjusting the parameters with which it is saved
> (like the quality in a JPG, or the number of colors in a GIF) are
> what affect the final weight of the image, since you are removing
> pixels (effectively) when you do that. I assumed that after the
> resize, you would have then exported/saved the image at the MINIMUM
> acceptible quality already. In this case, opening and saving again
> would not be expected to have any beneficial effect, and may in fact
> degrade things beyond that minimum acceptability level.
>
> One of the worst things you can do to a JPG image, by the way, is to
> JPG it again, so to speak.

In my case, I started with digital photos that were shot at 2048 and
use my photo editor to reduce them to 640. The resulting photos were
taking about 120 seconds to load with a computer on a 28 modem. After
loading those same 640 photos into Paint and saving from Paint, the
load time dropped to around 65 seconds. The drop in quality was not
noticeable on screen. I don't put photos online to be copied and used
as prints!

Tom J