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    - Form Result need to be Directed to a Different Server Hi I am responsible for creating and maintaining an agency intranet website and I have created a form using Front Page that emails the result to the office email. This has been working for over a year: Now my problem: The agency is now changing things and everything that is coming from the web has to be directed to a specific server that will then relay the email to the office mailbox. This means changing Front Page code to point to this other server instead of server the website resides on. They are telling me that since this form was created using the built-in code in FrontPage, which provides things to make things easy, called a Web-bot, it (FrontPage) keeps things simple by hiding a lot of stuff from the user. It (FrontPage) automatically points to the mail service on the server it is running on. They are not aware of a way of changing the code so that it points to this other server. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how or what changes I can make so that the form result are routed to this relay server first and then the relay server will forward it to the office email inbox. I really appreciate any assistance you may be able to provide to correct my problem. If possible, I would appreciate any replies be forwarded to my email addresses of: gvanhouten@hvc.rr.com or george.vanhouten@ssa.gov Thanks again!! George Tag: getelementbyid question Tag: 62735
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    - HTML Code Produced by FP Is there any way (like settings?) to control the html code produced by FrontPage? I am using FP as an html editor. What I see in the preview code is okay; certain phrases (they are really variables) are shown on lines by themselves as I designed. However, FP puts breaks (inserts html code) in places in the actual html code (that don't appear in the Preview) where I don't want breaks. The output (html file) is sent to another software program which reads the variable names and substitutes data for the variable names. Needless to say, I can't have a variable name split across two lines in the html code. In the example below, the variable in between the % characters cannot span two lines. Now, of course, I fixed the problem once by just going into the HTML code itself and removing the offending HTML code. But, I don't want to do that every time I create such a file or modify it. Below follows a sample of what appears in FP under Preview mode: ***** starts next line Your email address is: (%Email Address%) Your first name: (%First Name 1%) ***** ends previous line Below follows the html code as it appears in FP: ***** starts next line  Your email address is: (%Email Address%)<p>Your first name: (%First Name 1%)<br> ***** ends previous line If you've had experience with this kind of situation, I'd be interested in how you solved it. Bruce Tag: getelementbyid question Tag: 62733
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    - action="onlinepayment.htm" webbot-action="--WEBBOT-SELF--" Hi! Is it possible to do both action? action="onlinepayment.htm" webbot-action="--WEBBOT-SELF--" I want to send my form fields which are required for the online payment provider and at the same time send an email. Regards, Joel :) Tag: getelementbyid question Tag: 62726
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    - page alignment http://www.palielementary.org/Cafeteria.htm I am having trouble with the bottom section of the page. It reads ok in fire fox, but ie. is mis-aligned. do you have any suggestion. I did not post the css because I assume you will see that. thanks jj Tag: getelementbyid question Tag: 62724
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    - ASP and Access Database queries Hello, I am totally new to ASP and it's programming. Here my question: I have an Access database where I would like to show the data of one query on the internet (I only want to show the data, it should not be possible to change that data by visitors). I have been told that I have to create an ASP page. I tried, but somehow it's not working in Front Page ( the Wizard is not finding my dadtabase). Can be someone so kind and tell me, on a step-to-step basis, what I have to do? A quick answer is very much appreciated. Thanks Klaus Tag: getelementbyid question Tag: 62719
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    - Multiple AND statements I have written a Custom Query using the Database Results Wizard as follows: SELECT * FROM Results WHERE (Name = '::SelectName::' AND Activity = '::SelectActivity::') OR (Name = '::SelectName::' AND Purpose = '::SelectPurpose::') OR (Name = '::SelectName::' AND Activity = '::SelectActivity::' AND Purpose = '::SelectPurpose::') The first two parts of this work fine and return the correct results if only two criteria option are selected, however when all three criteria selection are selected the the results returned are incorrect, it seems to only recognise and match the Name part. Any ideas? Tag: getelementbyid question Tag: 62718
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    - Can ASP determine user's SharePoint Login ID? I have SharePoint handling logins to a secured subweb. Is there a way to determine in ASP what ID the user has logged in with? (I'm using ASP - not .NET) Tag: getelementbyid question Tag: 62717
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    - FP is gone but what is the closest replacement? Confused Hello, Got a newsletter from MS says FP is about to discontinue - http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/assistance/HA101205221033.aspx And two new tools will replace FP. Question is, which one is the closest replacement for FP because I don't really understand how MS puts the two new tools. In any case, which of the two or new things can easily managing a web site (as FP), doing some HTML pages, and certain degree of coding (not professional coding, of course) such as viewing the code page and adding/modifying some lines, doing ASP pages with database and so on? Many thanks in advance. Tag: getelementbyid question Tag: 62709
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    - length of time using form I have been playing around with frontpage forms for about a week now and can't seem to get my form right. I have I don't have any problem with making it look right, I just can't seem to find a way to customize it like I want. I am trying to measure the length of time that a user has the form open. To do this I have added another button to my form which the user presses when they start the form. This adds the time into a textbox. Then when the user hits submit, the time is then added to another textbox before the form is submitted. The problem is that the time (on both requests) is the same as it is inputting the time that the page was opened. Does anyone know how to specify the time at that exact moment to be inserted? I have also looked at different timer scripts and possible putting something on the page to record these details but have not had any success. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance Melissa Tag: getelementbyid question Tag: 62707
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    - Creating a link to another page using a form Is it possible to create a form function that adds the user-entered data on the end of a pre-determined url? (Then, when the submit button is clicked it will go to the url of the address ending with the user-entered data.) Tag: getelementbyid question Tag: 62706
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    - VBA Code to create a new HTM page on an existing Template Hi, can somebody tell me how to code in VBA the creation of a new page on the basis of an existing template file? Thanks a lot in advance Tag: getelementbyid question Tag: 62705
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    - vcard link Does anyone know of an application or code, to create a on-the-fly vcard from a database, for an online member directory? Thanks, Dom Tag: getelementbyid question Tag: 62704
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    - Edit inherited scripts? I am trying to change the way an .aspx page looks for the users. What i want to do is to hide one of three links. Now it looks something like this: Save & Close | Attach File | Go back to list The first two are needed, but I don't want the user to see the "go back to list" link. The links seems to come from an inherited script of some kind, and I don't see it when I try to edit the page in FP. If I open it as .css i can find the piece of code, but I can't seem to edit it. Any hints on how to get this done? All answerss appreciated, Goran Tag: getelementbyid question Tag: 62698
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    - Publish just a page I want to publish just a page because it has a FrontPage form in it that I want to use. I do not want to set up all the site in a FP site as that just messes things up. So my questions again is, how can I just publish the one page? It is my understanding that in order to get a FP form to work is that you have to publish it rather than just upload it via FTP. Thanks for any assistance you can offer. Tag: getelementbyid question Tag: 62689
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    - Need Help programming Hello, I am trying to learn frontpage to design my personal website. Is there a way I can have it password protect. I want to have a login screen and a database where I can save a few usernames and password. If anyone has experience doing that please let me know. thanks for your help. Tag: getelementbyid question Tag: 62688
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    - How do I make my page only accessable with id and password? How do I make my page only accessable with id and password? Tag: getelementbyid question Tag: 62687
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    - Is there a way to find out if an image file is being used in FP 2003? Hi, Is there a way I could quickly find out if images are used in any pages in FP 2003? The purpose is to do a "house cleaning" of the site by removing and re-organizing image files, but don't want to result in "x" of the images are linked in some pages. Many thanks in advance. Tag: getelementbyid question Tag: 62686
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    - VBScript Not working on server On my asp page...i have a small vbscript routine...which works fine when I test it on my machine (FP 2003). However...it doesn't work when I upload it to my site. Any ideas on how to fix? Thanks. Tag: getelementbyid question Tag: 62683
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    - server error - "....-vti-pvt\service.lck" I am getting this error message when attempting to open any of my files with Front Page - how do I correct? Tag: getelementbyid question Tag: 62681
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    - Date form - checks for more than 28 days Feb if (Month==1) && Day > 29 { alert ("You can't have more than 29 days in February) This works as long as the day is entered before the month, however, when someone enters February with a null (99) date, it returns this error before the person has had a chance to enter the date. Is there a simple way to amend the above to give the alert is month is February and date is greater than 29, but not 99 (ie blank)? Thanks. Tag: getelementbyid question Tag: 62676
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    - static size for web page ----------------------------------------------------------------------- A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see th results, please visit http://www.forum4designers.com/message432490.htm ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Question: how to make page width and heigh stati - how to make static hieght and widt - static hieght ----------------------------------------------------------------------- hi guys how do i make my webpage width and height static same in yaho page with all the design are in the middle nothing at the sides? Thanks - ric_u ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted via http://www.forum4designers.co ----------------------------------------------------------------------- View this thread: http://www.forum4designers.com/message432490.htm Tag: getelementbyid question Tag: 62666
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    - make the page width and height static hi guys im just new with web designing and would like to seek your goo help on how to make the hieght and width static same with yahoo and al the design are in the middle. Thanks in advance - ric_u ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted via http://www.forum4designers.co ----------------------------------------------------------------------- View this thread: http://www.forum4designers.com/message432488.htm Tag: getelementbyid question Tag: 62665
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    - Linking files How can I link a file that is on my computer to my web site so that visitors can access what is in the file stored on my computer? Tag: getelementbyid question Tag: 62664
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    - Inputing a calculated value <input name="LMPCalcGA" id="LMPCalcGA" size="56" style="border-style: solid; border-color: #FF0000; font-weight:700" tabindex="-1" onFocus=ClearScripts()> I'm inputing the above calculated value. I've made the input size 56 to accomodate the largest script, and made a red box around the inputed value which I mde bold. What I'd like to do is (a) Make the inputed text a different color or font (b) Center the inputed text within the box (ie for different lengths of inputed script) Thanks.. Tag: getelementbyid question Tag: 62663
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    - Can we execute Webbot part II Hi! I have tried the confirmation page but it doesn't work. My page needs to send some predetermined fields to the online payment web page. It goes to the page but doesn't seem to bring the fields with it. Regards, Joel :) ORIGINAL POSTING Hi! I would like to know if we can execute in a javascript or vbscript a webbot because in my form post action I do this bellow: <form name="theForm" method="post" action=https://esqa.moneris.com/HPPDP/index.php onSubmit="return Validator(this);"> and the person that create the HTML page is using webbot stuff, to send or save in a file the content of the fields of the web page. I want to do both, redirect on the submit action to another web site and save or send an email with WEBBOT. RESPONSE Just make the other site your custom confirmation page. Steve Easton Microsoft MVP FrontPage Tag: getelementbyid question Tag: 62660
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    - Is Welfare Part of Capitalism? This article is dedicated to: A man I met, with most of his body heavily burned, simply because he was a Chinese during the 1998 May Riot in Indonesia. Lots of capitalists that are slaughtered during the cultural evolution. Ten thousands of peaceful smugglers that are massacred in Banda island by the Dutch for conducting peaceful spice trade and all that are similar to them. All minority groups and individuals that face discrimination, even genocide, for economically contributing too much for their society. All customers that have to pay higher products due to protection of tariff and trades. Productive people that are fined with income tax for the victimless crime of making honest money. Smart students that are slowed down so not to move too fast. Industries that do not get subsidy, or even banned to protect unproductive industry and laborers that earn much less due to such restrictions. Poor starving people that could have been rich had their countries choose to embrace free market. Women and males that are trapped in unhappy marriage which they have a hard time getting out. Women and children that have lots of their best choices taken under the pretext of protection. Immigrants and refuges. Is welfare part of capitalism? In short, no. In consensually, punishing the productive through income tax to reward parasitic behavior is the biggest affront against the principle of free market. In fact, from many governments intervention in economy, the one that proponents of free market often oppose the most is welfare. However, when we look further, capitalism and welfare is not really total opposites. Most importantly, properly done, a straight forward welfare program can cause less market distortion, and hence an efficient replacement to buy votes from losers, than farm subsidies, public schools, minimum wage, trades restrictions, tariffs, and sex laws. If it's done by taxing wealth, rather than income, the amount of market distortion can be minimized further. Welfare is also cheap. It'll cost $5000/year to a welfare recipient in USA, for example. However, we need to remember that the recipients' lifestyle worth only $500. The other $4500 goes to implicit welfare due to higher living costs. That implicit welfare includes minimum wage, immigrations laws, and food subsidy, or protections. If somehow a straight forward explicit welfare program can replace all relatively more evil governments' interventions, then capitalists are probably better of not opposing welfare so much. Even Milton Friedman supports schemes called guaranteed minimum income, which is like welfare but with much less market distortion. That's not where the similarity ends. One of the main creeds of capitalism is that consent and competition should be preferred over force. Without that consent, anyone can simply make us choose to make our self worst of under the pretext that it is for our own good. In fact, most laws against consensual acts can be traced down to protection of some disgruntled competitors often done under the pretext of the consenting parties' own good. Anti prostitution and anti polygamy laws, for example, is there to ration females to poor dumb males under the pretext of protecting the consenting women. Of course, all natural resources tend to be rationed somewhat proportional to ones' voting power. And that does explain why democracy and anti polygamy laws go hand in hand too. One man one vote soon leads to one man one wife. Well, at least Matt Ridley agrees with me and he's a well known mainstream scientific researchers. I guess that's also why so many uncompetitive people want to ensure that evolution theory is not taught in school. You can also read a famous psikiatrist book, "The road less traveled," you'll see that life long monogamous marriage is just a trap to prevent highly desirable people from being available to those who they want more, and romance is just the lure to that trap. On the women side, anti pornography laws is really meant to prevent highly desirable women from advertising her assets and hence protecting less pretty women from the higher industry standard a public display of superior desirability might cause. Countries that embrace porn tend to have prettier women. Where did all the unsexy ones go? They're all shifting out of the gene pool, and hence are doing their best to oppose porn preaching religious doctrines that men should judge women based on any features but beauty, which they can't offer. Another issue is consent. Welfare program is not consensual; however, it's relatively more consensual then civil war. In ancient time, when we have different ideological opinions, we end up killing each other to proof who are "right." The Catholic would kill the Gnostic, the Sunni would kill the Shiah. One King would kill the other. A younger prince will argue that the older prince is demon. Might makes right. Such differences of opinions are of course solved with war, which is a very cost inefficient way to know who're "right." However it does work in some subjective practical sense. If we look in the past and try to figure out whether the Gnostic or the Catholic is the one that's heretical or "right" respectively, we need only to see who won. The Gnostics are slaughtered, so they must be the heretic, or do they? At least I bet there are way more people in the world that think that way than the other way around, excluding me actually. It doesn't matter how many books many institutionalized religions burned, how much restrictions of freedom of speech and irrationality they embraced, how many witnesses they snuffed outs and all other techniques that would not have stand the scrutiny of a peer reviewed scientific journal, or even a reasonable jury in the court of law. Too many people don't believe who are right and reasonable, they believe who are mighty. Right or wrong, the win will always become right anyway. Now, under democratic context, we don't kill those who oppose us, rather we try to persuade enough people to join our cause. How do we persuade them? By money of course. Welfare program is then a reasonably cost efficient method to buy votes. When too many people are on a side, we will sort of know that going to war will hurt the other side; hence we comply anyway with the whim of majority avoiding the costly alternatives. While not ideal, this is indeed how right and wrong is really decided, proper assessments of each sides' bargaining position and mutually cherished compromised line of war, plus a bunch of lies covering what's going on to safe each sides' face. No matter how noble the purpose, lies and prejudices lead to misunderstanding, that leads to more war. Hence, the best contribution is simply to unmask all lies. All in all, peaceful democracy is indeed a more cost efficient ways to measure ones' bargaining position. While democracy often lead to decisions opposites of freedom, like popularly supported victimless crime, income tax, and welfare, it's indeed relatively more cost efficient than civil war. That's not when the coherency end. Various natural laws restrict various possible political outcomes. We can't expect a stone will fly to the sky when we drop it as much as we cannot expect a human to be generally unselfish. If we want to kill our enemies, we'll do well dropping a big stone on top of our enemies head rather than dropping the stone on top of our own head expecting the stone to somewhat magically fly to the enemies head. The same way, we can't demand market distortion and expect that the best and brightest among us to still magically be a nice tax payer rather than dictators and corruptors. In a country where selling porn or building a good franchise chain is more difficult and less lucrative than becoming a dictator, guess what the smart would end up doing? Ask Saddam. If we want rich and prosperous countries, we must know that it will and only will happen when we properly align individuals' interests with productivity. Such coherency tends to make certain things come in package with another. We can expect that moving electric field will induce magnetic field. The same way, in life, we observe similar things. Communism and socialism, for example, always come in package with dictatorship and corruptions when smart people realize that being dictators pay more than building a business empire. To the opposite capitalistic countries comes in package with softer deals for losers, such as, guess what, welfare. We know from our economic classes that free market capitalism brings prosperity within market mechanism. However, it turns out that the prosperity that free market brings also profit the less successful beyond market mechanism. Capitalism and the prosperity that come with it tend to facilitate ideological changes in ways that benefit the less successful. One such ideological change is the popular support for losers' benefits. One such benefit is, guess what, welfare. The most obvious samples of such ideological shifts the free market bring are the elimination of slavery in US. What happened? As usual, the northern part of America is an industrial country. At that time, steel industries are relatively more modern than the farming industry. Higher tech industry increase labors' productivity. When labor's productivity goes up, entrepreneurs will want to hire as many workers as possible. Hence, labors' salary will go up. This will kill of industries with less labor's productivity. At the end, the marginal productivity of labors in the least productive industry will go up. That value is labors' salary. Under competitive equilibrium, the more productive and efficient a person is, the more he benefits everyone in the chain of productivity except those similar to him. Hence, an entrepreneurs coming up with ways to improve labors' productivity would benefit everyone, including workers and consumers, at the expense of other entrepreneurs and capitalists. Read that Karl Marx! Then what? When labors' salary goes up, obviously labors will move to the employers that pay them higher. Hence, farm labors in the south want to move to the north. They can't do so legally though because they were slaves. Hence, the northern capitalists in US want to free slaves so they can hire more workers. And then the southern capitalists in US want to keep slavery. This then results in war. The bigger the labors' productivity, the more intensive capitalists have to free slaves. The more supporters there will be on a cause the more likely the cause won. Hence, slaves were freed. Unfortunately, people still want to help losers and buy votes from those who are too expensive and too stubborn to switch. That explains why the farms in US gets subsidy. If losing means not as successful as the other, then there will always be losers. However, we see how free market shifts the worlds' system in ways that benefits the losers too. Unlike the commies' propaganda, capitalism does not cause or even enlarge disparity of wealth. Capitalism only changes the way such disparity are earned to the benefits of all. At the end of the warring states period in China, the king of Chin, Shih Huang Ti, and his prime minister, Li Si were the winner. Within one generation they have all their family slaughtered. If that's what winning means, what did losing means in pre-capitalistic countries? In ancient time, losing meant having all the males slaughtered, enslaved, or castrated and all the females raped and winning means risking your whole family slaughtered by rebels. In socialists countries the rich are corruptors and dictators that slice each other throats while the poor are starving. Now, thanks to the prosperity only free market can bring, losing means they can leave on welfare, with plenty of chance to climb back and proof their worth, like J. K. Rowling. Now, slaves are so free and highly paid thanks to increase in labors' productivity. In fact, when slave jobs are moving to China under globalization, slaves in US refused to be emancipated and want to keep their slave jobs in US rather than evolving into entrepreneurs. So, much for the land of the free and the place of the brave. Some people don't mind dying for what they believe in but are too scared to start a business. Evolutions will fix that I guess. Free market gives abundances to everyone. The benefits the free market brings benefit those less capable from being successful not only within the system but also through non market mechanism, like the ending of slavery and the start of reverse slavery we call welfare. But how do those really work? Is there a general principle? Each of us is greedy and selfish that we want as many as possible for us. Humans' greed and selfishness is an undisputable scientific facts, as sure as the sun rise in the east, as sure as a stone will fall to the ground pulled by gravity. We're not just greedy and selfish. Greed and selfishness doesn't explain all the war, suffering, and poverty we face. In fact, greed is good. Properly aligned, under free market, the greatest among us shall be the one productively providing the best service to the most customers. Blessed be the productive because they'll be rich. This will encourage higher and higher standard of living that we are currently enjoying. Free market allows those who serve more to grow richer. To those who have more profit, to those more capital are given. Even kingdom of heaven don't mind using this nice positive feedback effect. Who needs new deals to break up companies? Also, women prefer the rich. The next time you watch soap opera, make sure it's made in some country with the highest IQ in the world, like Hong Kong. Free sex means richer males will consensually attract and mate with more women producing more kids. That's the whole point of getting rich by the way. Duh? In fact, that's what being a living human male is all about: 1. Gain control ship of as much money or power as possible. 2. Attract or in anyway acquire as many females as possible. 3. Make kids. 4. Use that kids as tools to make grand children. You bet it's right because it's science. Of course, they don't teach this important fact in biology class because government interfere in education. Hence, when we're free, without genocide, without war, even with humanitarians aids given to appease enemies, the meek will indeed inherit the earth. More than greedy and selfish, some humans are simply not humans because they embrace the root of all evil, envy. That explains why we have so many laws against mutually beneficial consensual acts and governments regulations to protect us from our own choices. The truth is, all those laws and restrictions are more often not there to protect stupid people from making mistakes. All such laws are there to prevent the smart from making the right choices. That's why, for example, every body has to move equally slowly in school, to prevent the smart from moving faster. That's why various reproductive techniques are politically incorrect proportional to the expected quality of genetic material that will be duplicated. In particular, life long monogamous marriage, free sex, prostitution, polygamy, and cloning are sequences that both have increasingly expected value of genetic quality outcome and politically incorrectness. In Europe and China, the smart monks are encouraged not to get married. When some minority groups don't buy the bullshit and hence greatly improving their productively earned wealth and genetic quality, such minority groups somehow become victims of genocide. Life is like a real time strategy games. That means when we're not at war, we're in a race. That's simply how we evolve. Morality, religions, and ideologies, are stuffs created by really smart people to persuade us to run backward. Peace means we're in a race. Freedom means we are in a competition. Some people just don't want to compete. Hence, they craft lies and prejudices against those who are in front preventing progress to prosperity. I'll tell you the scientific truth. It's from the fruit we knows the tree. Anyone opposing free trades and globalization is more evil than Hitler or Nazi. If only Japan and German could have acquired natural resources through consensual peaceful trade, Nazism wouldn't have been popular there and Hitler wouldn't have risen to power. With his mass hypnotic skills, he may have ended up as seminar speaker I guess. If only those who had wanted to incite the Second World War see all the miracles and prosperity the free market brings, they would have repented and embrace free market. Yet, after all the prosperity and wealth the free market is bringing to all of us, still many people choose to oppose competition, and hence, miss-properly align our interests from productivity. That is the cause of all evil in the world. All causes opposing free market can be negotiated and appeased. However, if the very thing that a group of people want to prevent is the success of the others, then the situation is pretty much kill or be killed zero sum game. How does such situation usually end up? What would be our optimum solutions for such situation? Under normal circumstances, an optimum solution of any business decisions is a solution where the marginal revenue equals to the marginal costs. Hence, in a zero sum game, each party will try to maximize its benefit to that point. Sometimes, the marginal costs have a spike. There is a certain point where increasing a resources allocation beyond a certain point will create adverse costs. For example, increasing the number of labors will increase revenue. After a certain point, increasing one additional labor will mean buying a new machine or building a new factory. We may end up choosing to do it, we may not. In either case, discretions are the better part of the valor when it comes to that line. The same way, in most countries, each of us can increase our profits using property we own or consensually rent. When we maximize our profit that way, the public will, ideally and some times truly, not interfere, and defend us from being prevented to enjoy our "rights" by others. However, when we start using others' property to maximize our gain, say by stealing, public opinions may shift from protecting us to against us. Hence, the choice whether we should steal or not depends on the extra costs of crossing the politically correctness line of war. If a person sees that the potential gain justifies the increase costs of public support shifts, he'll still steal and make a great career out of it. Otherwise he'll stop stealing while coming up with a pretext to justify his cowardly decisions, such as morality. But what do the people choose their reaction to a specific act like stealing? They do so based on their sense of fairness, justice, and right-wrong discernment. How do people get that sense? From ideology. The ideology, religions, or whatever, then decides the line of war where the rest of us should consider before crossing. But how does the line gets drawn? By estimates of bargaining position. Let's examine an example. Is the King (or Queen?) of England the King of France? Don't know. How do we know? In the beginning, a ruling class from France went to England and become king of England. Then they lost control of France. Hence, king of England wanted to take back the controls they have lost. Well, such conflicts are solved by war. In this particular case, the war lasted 100 years. The British attacked France and successfully route knights with long bows. Then, the Frances stroke back driving the British back to their isolated islands. However, the France cannot move further and go all the way to attack British because of the Strait of Dover separating the two nations. Finally both sides realized that the straits somehow became the sacred line of war. It's not auspicious to cross the line of war for either side. The France, having more army and larger population would beat up the British on land, and the British being stronger at sea can always repulsed France sea invasion. Hence, we got peace. Such natural separators like straits and mountains explain why Europeans are divided into many different countries. The Chinese, not having that natural line of war, end up getting united all the time. Now, let's get back to the question whether welfare is part of capitalism. If all of us have just enough food, and some people don't work, what would we end up doing to those who are not productive? Humans' basic instincts and preferences lead to gene pool survival. When food is scarce, such as when the people demand centralized planning, it would serve ones' gene pool survival to slaughter the parasites rather than sharing food to them. That's because sharing food to those who do not earn it means starving ones own self. In fact, humans will kill each other to literally eat each other when food is scarce. Such is what happened in China and Rusia when centralized planning, governments' intervention in economy, and prejudices against successful capitalists became the norm. However, when food and money are abundance, such as when the people embrace free market, fighting the parasites might cause more gene pool survival lost than feeding them. On the other hand, simply giving and yielding toward threaten will motivate people to keep pushing us around. Moreover, giving in to those who can use force against us will motivate countries to build arms rather than say, better video games. Hence, one possible strategy to minimize open war while still properly aligning ones interest with other individuals around them is to give to those who ask nicely and ask less. As free market brings a lot of abundance, those who are needy can be appeased much more cheaply than those who are envy, and hence, we got welfare program. To be frank, I'd rather see the unproductive people have bigger TV rather than letting them make more kids. It's more humane, and cheaper. Guess what? Most people that know they're not very capable either would rather have that too. Back to the France vs British. If only both sides have realized the true bargaining positions of each, they wouldn't have to resort to such expensive 100 years war right? The thing is, the 100 years war are the most credible and accurate ways to measure ones' bargaining position. War shows which one is stronger, and hence leads to a mutual understanding of where the line of war might be. If only we can wave our gun and scare the enemies, it'll be great. However, the only threats that are credible are those actually done. How do we know a cause's bargaining position? Democracy might give some light by counting the number of those who are in favor or against what we consider lesser evil. However, number counting can be deceiving. We hold this truth with plenty of evidences, that humans are inherently different. We have difference capability and preferences, and hence different choices and outcome. It's useless to lay net in front of anything with wings. Those who are genetically predestined to be successful will get rich anyway whether through honest capitalistic means or through dictatorship. Those who are small in numbers can hence be quite strong. Preventing the smart from making money honestly will then turn them into corruptors and dictators. When the Chileans demand to prosecute their entrepreneurs, they end up getting a dictator, the way any country that demand slavery over freedom deserves. Fortunately, Pinochet are relatively benign compared to others dictator and embrace free market giving the miraculous prosperity that the Chilean now enjoy. Now, US government arrested his daughter for a crime of tax evasion. An act that wouldn't have been a crime if making honest money is free. The miracle of Chili becomes the model of China's moving to free market. It also helps to end communism all over the world peacefully. If capitalists fail to show thanks to Pinochet family, I don't know what would happen to all of us. So, beyond number counting, the more accurate ways are then through skirmishes. When people cross the public's opinion line of war and we don't strike back, the line of war will shift against the coward by precedence. By fighting back, we'll then have a more accurate knowledge of which one the public would agree with. Hence, it's very important to retaliate to what others do to us, either good or bad. It's a pleasure to serve my friends, it's also a pleasure to wipe out envy enemies that are on our ways, should my friends wish or don't mind. When a fraudster tricks my brother over $3,900, my main concern is not to get my money back. My main concern is to get the fraudster to jail even if that will costs far more money than the $3,900. When a thief steals my money on 2001, my concern is also not to get my property back. What's just is to encourage the whole world to post any thieves conviction records on the net to prevent further larcenies. It makes me wonder though. Why people consider it cruel to damage a thief or a fraudster' reputation? The mere acts of making honest money are punishable by income tax. When Everett O. Lasher makes an argument in court, the case leads to $5000 fine, and understandably, a suicide. The mere acts of successfully fending of ones' home from thieves lead to a life long jail term for Tony Martin. Thousands would march against WTO demanding harsh laws to punish those exercising consensual trades. In Iran, the mere acts of switching religions can lead to death penalty. In Indonesia, new laws are being drafted giving years in prison for kissing in public. Of course, public rape during May riot are still far from being punished. This while murderers of Vincent Chin went free without jail term. Thousands would march to end death penalty against murderers. In Indonesia, religious fundamentalists can come to a house and destroy properties from houses providing consensual entertainment with polices watching. Those people often get away or lightly punish. If consensual productive acts are punished while damaging inconsensual forces are not, soon, all highly productive people would end up in gas chamber after the next Cultural Revolution, or what ever. Those who are left are those smart enough to be dictators enslaving the rest of us. Prejudices reminds me of an envy old hag that's so determined to ruin my reputation for being friendly to her and her friends, after her own friendly communication. I never intended to fraud anyone or steal her money yet I got my reputation ruined. I am very disappointed to see that there are people in the world that want to bring me down more than they want to bring down a thief. I have tried to resolve the issue privately by suggesting to that thing that she's really not important enough for anyone to pretend to be her friend. Moreover, I didn't need her as a friend. All this was just a damage-less misunderstanding caused by her own friendly communication which I could simply publicly straighten out. At least, it used to be. However, that vermin really wished to get the issue public telling lies that she never communicated with me, possibly to boost that things' feeling of importance her genes deny her. Well, if she got so mad over a few friendly introductions, I can only wonder what that thing would do when it finds out that her true envy natures are revealed to 55000 newsgroups several times. It'll happen again and again whenever I feel like. Hence, just look for "envy vermin" on the net to find out what's really going on including what she said privatedly. Let the public decide who are more honest, rational, scientific, and straightforward. Let the market decides which one are worthy and who are worthless. It's a great mistake to ever consider such thing as a friend, a mistake no body should do. It's her kind that turns people of from making money productively. Hopefully we can undermine public opinions against all form of envy motivated lies and prejudices. At the end, we'll greatly weaken laws against victimless crime and easily out compete all envy people out of the gene pool. That'll ensure that the free fair market competition would reign over war when all lies and prejudices against those more successful are gone. Now that being said, I want to move all jobs that can be done online to Asia, especially, copy writers. Take advantage of the value difference and leverage like hell is how we all make money in any system. Who's with me? Free market is all merciful and all compassionate. At the end, even those that oppose free market will benefits from free trades. Tag: getelementbyid question Tag: 62659
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    - Preganancy Date calculation web page I'd like to create a "simple" web page/form to calculate various date issues. It is to determine a pregnancy due date by various means. For instance, I'd like to have a fill-in area for last menstrual period, todays date, and when you hit calculate it would add 280 days (length of pregnancy) to determine the due date, and then determine the number of weeks and days of pregnancy. That would be displayed below. What would be the best way to set this up? Tag: getelementbyid question Tag: 62622
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    - My web pages do not print I purchased a template from TemplateTuning, and have developed it into the web site www.speakspace.com None of the pages will print from any browser. You can confirm this by going the web site, and viewing a Print Preview. Nothing appears except a blank page. does anyone know why and how I can fix this. Thanks, Tom Tag: getelementbyid question Tag: 62621
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    - Table of calculations This is what I want to do: The user will input 2 numbers in a form and after he submit the form, it will display a table with in the first column: numbers from 10 to 90 incrementing by 1 and on the second column: a mathematical formula based on the 2 numbers entered and the number in the first column. First, I thought of using the database wizard but it has no sense to put the 2 numbers (input by the user) in a table. So how can I do that? is there a similar example on the web because I'm not experimented in programming on the internet (but I caan modify existing programs). Thanks. Tag: getelementbyid question Tag: 62619
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    - Unable to open registry-ODBC Driver error I found a couple of VBScripts on the net to provide a Logon/Password prompt to secure some pages on the Web I'm developing for my home town. I modified the two scripts, one to display the prompt and the second to do a query and check against my Access DB that contains the user ID's and passwords. The user ID/password script is named check.2.asp and contains the following code (the last line is the fail point). I'm new at VBScript but have a fair amount of VBA coding. Is there a good debugger, especially with a line step and variable value functions? In the mean time any help with the problem below? dbname="/localhost/fpdb/town4web.mdb" myname=request.form("logon_name") mypassword=request.form("PIN") set conntemp=server.createobject("adodb.connection") cnpath="DBQ=" & dbname conntemp.Open "DRIVER={Microsoft Access Driver (*.mdb)}; " & cnpath Error Type: Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers (0x80004005) [Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver]General error Unable to open registry key 'Temporary (volatile) Jet DSN for process 0x87c Thread 0xbc DBC 0x105900c Jet'. /check.2.asp, line 24 -- Thanks... Jim Tinder Tag: getelementbyid question Tag: 62614
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    - form confirmation page format I have a working form, but the confirmation page does not conform to the theme of the website (it looks fine when called directly, though). This page does show the shared top, bottom and left borders, but does not show the appropriate page background (that is set in the theme. I also notice the URL in the address bar is: http://www.mydomain.tld/_vti_bin/shtml.dll/email/email.htm email/email.htm is the name of the page the form is on, and /email/emailsent.htm is the name of the confirmation page (just a thank-you page - no choice to confirm) Tag: getelementbyid question Tag: 62609
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    - VBscript query results to a form Although I have found a number of example of logon scripts, I am writing (and trying to learn) a VBScript that will take user id and password entries on a form on a page name logoon.asp and used query an imported MS-Access 2000 DB. The records in a table named owner_name in the DB contains user id and password fields as well as a unique record key of owner_id. I have a fair background in Access VBA but a newbie at Front Page and VBscript. I think I have the conn, open DB, and exec sql with the form user id and password criteria coded OK. I have a do-loop to read the single record in the recordset to get the owner_id field value. OWNER_ID = RS.FIELDS ("OWNER_ID") My questions is once I have the unique key (owner_id) from the Access record, how do I "post" it back to the form? I'm hoping to use KB Article 308697 to pass this unique key to the first of a series of pages with queried data particular to the "owner". Part 2 The majority of the web pages are public so the logon.asp (two levels down one leg of the navigation structure) and used only to provide/protect access to the user's unique data. After the submit on the logon.asp page and passing a check of user id and password in the DB; the script should redirect the user to the first "protected" page. (All other owner pages will be linked from this page and the data queried using the unique owner_id value). Is the following code the method to "jump to" the first protected page and if so where in the script must it be placed? response.redirect "owner_name_pg1" Part 3 ==== I've familiar with the MS-Access VBA debuging tools; is there similar available debugging line and variable tools? (this web development is a donation to my home town) Thanks... Jim Tinder Tag: getelementbyid question Tag: 62593
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    - FP fonts changing I use Vbulletin for a website, with the program I use FP2003 to make the web pages and insert them into the template area of VB. The site is for a volunteer youth program and every year I have to update them. When I cut the code out of VB and paste into FP to make the changes and then put it back in VB all the fonts and sizes change. This is not adding anything just changing a few names and not even the whole line. It is very aggravating because what should take seconds takes half a hour because I have to search for codes to correct this. I can use FP98 and it works just fine. Why would this be happening when it is correct in FP but somewhere in the transition things change? Tag: getelementbyid question Tag: 62588
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    - Showing videos on all web browsers With a lot of help from the forum, I now have a web page where the viewer can select, from a list, which video will be played in a single player on that page. See Http://www.fumcwl.org/ THE MEDIA ROOM.htm Now, because this page only works with IE I would like to do the same thing only subsitute a flash player for the windows media player and present the same movies in swish format. I have tried to change the code to do this but I don/t have enough knowlage of java script to make it work. Any help will be appreciated. Tag: getelementbyid question Tag: 62586
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    - Edits to DBI FP 2002 - SP3 - with Access 2002 DB - Created the DBI electing all 3 pages (submission, results & editor) into an existing web - working live on the server. The add/deletes work but I can not EDIT existing records - I know this is not too uncommon of a problem but I don't know the solution - help pelase! Tag: getelementbyid question Tag: 62579
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    - Possible bug in FP2003 I have noticed that sometimes my systems completely locks up when using FP2003. It does not always happen, but the common denominator is when moving/resizing a frontpage dialog box. It happened today consistanty. Opening the Edit->Find dialog box. Enter a search string, select "Source code". If the list of source files that the string was found in is larger than the display box, resizing the dialog window causes my system to freeze up. Machine specifics. WinXP (Home) SP2, up to date on fixes Office 2000 Professional SP1 Frontpage 2003 (using office update, am at the most up to date code) Machine Pentium Celeron 1.3GHz, 786MB RAM. Anyone else seen this or heard of any bugs in Frontpage? Chris F. Tag: getelementbyid question Tag: 62577
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    - HELP ! HELP! SQL to ASP Page Can anybody tell me why the SQL query work number 1 works until I change it in number 2 and move it to an ASP Page in FrontPage 2003? If I copy number 1 to a FrontPage 2003 ASP Page it works. Number 1 SELECT Shipments.Shipper_Reference, Shipments.Consignee_Company, Shipments.Consignee_Contact, Shipments.Consignee_Address1, Shipments.Consignee_City, Shipments.Consignee_State, Shipments.Consignee_PostalCode, Shipments.Consignee_Phone, Shipments.Country, Shipments.Fuel_Surcharge, Shipments.Total, Shipments.UserName, Shipments.ShipDate, Shipments.ServicePlaintext, Packages.Tracking_Number, Shipments.Business_Unit, Shipments.Shipping_Group FROM Shipments INNER JOIN Packages ON Shipments.ShipmentGUID = Packages.ShipmentGUID WHERE (Shipments.Business_Unit <> '') AND (Shipments.Shipping_Group <> '') AND (Shipments.ShipDate BETWEEN CONVERT(DATETIME, '2006-03-01 00:00:00', 102) AND CONVERT(DATETIME, '2006-03-21 00:00:00', 102)) ORDER BY Shipments.Shipper_Reference, Shipments.ShipDate, Shipments.ServicePlaintext Number 2 SELECT Shipments.Shipper_Reference, Shipments.Consignee_Company, Shipments.Consignee_Contact, Shipments.Consignee_Address1, Shipments.Consignee_City, Shipments.Consignee_State, Shipments.Consignee_PostalCode, Shipments.Consignee_Phone, Shipments.Country, Shipments.Fuel_Surcharge, Shipments.Total, Shipments.UserName, Shipments.ShipDate, Shipments.ServicePlaintext, Packages.Tracking_Number, Shipments.Business_Unit, Shipments.Shipping_Group FROM Shipments INNER JOIN Packages ON Shipments.ShipmentGUID = Packages.ShipmentGUID WHERE (Shipments.Business_Unit <> '') AND (Shipments.Shipping_Group <> '') AND (Shipments.ShipDate BETWEEN CONVERT(DATETIME, '::TxtStart::', 102) AND CONVERT(DATETIME, '::TxtEnd::', 102)) ORDER BY Shipments.Shipper_Reference, Shipments.ShipDate, Shipments.ServicePlaintext Any Help! Jim Tag: getelementbyid question Tag: 62546
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    - password protection of documents I am reating an Itranet that will allow employees to access personel files. Each employee must have their own password which will allow access to their files. Can this be done in FrontPage? Also, is there a way to generate an automatic e-mail each time a page is updated on the Intranet to notify employees that there has been a change and to visit the site? (Kind of like the button with this program that you can click to notify users of replies.) Tag: getelementbyid question Tag: 62544
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    - Problem with form action=../index I have a page in a folder named signup. I want to use a submit button to return to index.html This code results in an incorrect address error when the button is clicked: <form method="POST" action="../index.html"> <p align="center"><input type="submit" value="Return"></p></form> However, if I use a hyperlink instead of the button, it works fine: <p><a href="../index.html">Return</a></p> Why does the form fail whereas the hyperlink works? Many thanks, Robert Tag: getelementbyid question Tag: 62542

I have a text field in a form. When clucked I want to erase the field, and
when entered I want to recalculate an equation.
The below doesn't seem to be assigning the id "john" to text entry.
I want to retrieve the id later by using getelementbyid Thanks

<input type="text" id="john" size=3 maxlength=3 onFocus=ClearScripts()
onChange=CalcTWO()

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Re: getelementbyid question by Steve

Steve
Thu Apr 06 21:11:39 CDT 2006

What is the script for the functions
ClearScripts()
and
CalcTWO()
??

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"Scott" <Scott@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I have a text field in a form. When clucked I want to erase the field, and
> when entered I want to recalculate an equation.
> The below doesn't seem to be assigning the id "john" to text entry.
> I want to retrieve the id later by using getelementbyid Thanks
>
> <input type="text" id="john" size=3 maxlength=3 onFocus=ClearScripts()
> onChange=CalcTWO()

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