Would someone please tell me what size to set the table on page:
www.mooreframes.com/vtwin.htm

I'm refering to the table in the middle with the pics.

It looks fine on my screen but to far to the left on a wide screen. I would
like it to stretch wider when someone views it on a wider screen. Thank you

Re: Tables size by Rob

Rob
Thu Mar 27 22:18:15 CDT 2008

You have a 100% fixed width table within a div with a width of 776 px.

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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Microsoft MVP Expression






"Mary Ann" <MaryAnn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:12B6E567-1BAF-4D27-9701-9A70C652A5DA@microsoft.com...
| Would someone please tell me what size to set the table on page:
| www.mooreframes.com/vtwin.htm
|
| I'm refering to the table in the middle with the pics.
|
| It looks fine on my screen but to far to the left on a wide screen. I
would
| like it to stretch wider when someone views it on a wider screen. Thank
you



Re: Tables size by Ronx

Ronx
Fri Mar 28 03:58:51 CDT 2008

Before you worry about widescreen monitors, I suggest you look at the
page in FireFox - around 20% of your potential customers use FireFox.

The absolute positioning, VML graphics, layers with incorrect height
attributes etc. are conspiring to hide some of the content.

Also, the space bar should not be used for layout - FireFox shows your
fonts slightly smaller than IE does, using the space bar for layout
means the layout will be different in FireFox.

I suggest redesigning the page to use tables only, without text-boxes
and layers. Use % to set the width of the tables.

--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp




"Mary Ann" <MaryAnn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:12B6E567-1BAF-4D27-9701-9A70C652A5DA@microsoft.com:

> Would someone please tell me what size to set the table on page:
> www.mooreframes.com/vtwin.htm
>
> I'm refering to the table in the middle with the pics.
>
> It looks fine on my screen but to far to the left on a wide screen. I would
> like it to stretch wider when someone views it on a wider screen. Thank you


Re: Tables size by MaryAnn

MaryAnn
Fri Mar 28 08:51:01 CDT 2008

Thank you. I didn't want to use the layers but I couldn't figure out how else
to have a separate table on the left for the menu and a table in the center
for the products.

"Ronx" wrote:

> Before you worry about widescreen monitors, I suggest you look at the
> page in FireFox - around 20% of your potential customers use FireFox.
>
> The absolute positioning, VML graphics, layers with incorrect height
> attributes etc. are conspiring to hide some of the content.
>
> Also, the space bar should not be used for layout - FireFox shows your
> fonts slightly smaller than IE does, using the space bar for layout
> means the layout will be different in FireFox.
>
> I suggest redesigning the page to use tables only, without text-boxes
> and layers. Use % to set the width of the tables.
>
> --
> Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
> Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
>
> http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp
>
>
>
>
> "Mary Ann" <MaryAnn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:12B6E567-1BAF-4D27-9701-9A70C652A5DA@microsoft.com:
>
> > Would someone please tell me what size to set the table on page:
> > www.mooreframes.com/vtwin.htm
> >
> > I'm refering to the table in the middle with the pics.
> >
> > It looks fine on my screen but to far to the left on a wide screen. I would
> > like it to stretch wider when someone views it on a wider screen. Thank you
>
>

Re: Tables size by MaryAnn

MaryAnn
Fri Mar 28 14:10:02 CDT 2008

Thank you so much! That helped a lot.

"Ronx" wrote:

> A simple table layout:
>
> <body>
> <table width="100%">
> <tr>
> <td>Logo goes here</td>
> <td>Page header goes here</td>
> </tr>
> </table>
> <table width="100%">
> <tr>
> <td width="120" valign="top">
> <table>
> <tr>
> <td>navigation goes here</td>
> </tr>
> <tr>
> <td>navigation goes here</td>
> </tr>
> <!-- repeat above cells for more navigation -->
> </table>
> </td>
> <td valign="top">
> <table>
> <tr>
> <td>Page content goes here</td>
> </tr>
> </table>
> </td>
> </tr>
> </table>
> <table width="100%">
> <tr>
> <td>Page footer goes here</td>
> </tr>
> </table>
> </body>
>
> You will need to add cellspacing, cellpadding and borders for each
> table, but you should see the basic idea.
> --
> Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
> Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
>
> http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp
>
>
>
>
> "Mary Ann" <MaryAnn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:96317DCF-99DA-4837-8123-BD7862D831F6@microsoft.com:
>
> > Thank you. I didn't want to use the layers but I couldn't figure out how else
> > to have a separate table on the left for the menu and a table in the center
> > for the products.
> >
> > "Ronx" wrote:
> >
> > > Before you worry about widescreen monitors, I suggest you look at the
> > > page in FireFox - around 20% of your potential customers use FireFox.
> > >
> > > The absolute positioning, VML graphics, layers with incorrect height
> > > attributes etc. are conspiring to hide some of the content.
> > >
> > > Also, the space bar should not be used for layout - FireFox shows your
> > > fonts slightly smaller than IE does, using the space bar for layout
> > > means the layout will be different in FireFox.
> > >
> > > I suggest redesigning the page to use tables only, without text-boxes
> > > and layers. Use % to set the width of the tables.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
> > > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
> > >
> > > http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Mary Ann" <MaryAnn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:12B6E567-1BAF-4D27-9701-9A70C652A5DA@microsoft.com:
> > >
> > > > Would someone please tell me what size to set the table on page:
> > > > www.mooreframes.com/vtwin.htm
> > > >
> > > > I'm refering to the table in the middle with the pics.
> > > >
> > > > It looks fine on my screen but to far to the left on a wide screen. I would
> > > > like it to stretch wider when someone views it on a wider screen. Thank you
> > >
> > >
>
>

Re: Tables size by Richard

Richard
Fri Mar 28 14:22:15 CDT 2008

Nice job Ron... yeah, tables take a little to get used to at first.
I like to mentally associate the html "table" to the behavior of
rows/columns/cells that are so common in an Excel spreadsheet.

Sort-of anyway...

Richard in Va.
+++++++++++++


"Mary Ann" <MaryAnn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:12BCD144-A27A-4896-92FD-AFA6B88B4D13@microsoft.com...
> Thank you so much! That helped a lot.
>
> "Ronx" wrote:
>
>> A simple table layout:
>>
>> <body>
>> <table width="100%">
>> <tr>
>> <td>Logo goes here</td>
>> <td>Page header goes here</td>
>> </tr>
>> </table>
>> <table width="100%">
>> <tr>
>> <td width="120" valign="top">
>> <table>
>> <tr>
>> <td>navigation goes here</td>
>> </tr>
>> <tr>
>> <td>navigation goes here</td>
>> </tr>
>> <!-- repeat above cells for more navigation -->
>> </table>
>> </td>
>> <td valign="top">
>> <table>
>> <tr>
>> <td>Page content goes here</td>
>> </tr>
>> </table>
>> </td>
>> </tr>
>> </table>
>> <table width="100%">
>> <tr>
>> <td>Page footer goes here</td>
>> </tr>
>> </table>
>> </body>
>>
>> You will need to add cellspacing, cellpadding and borders for each
>> table, but you should see the basic idea.
>> --
>> Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
>> Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
>>
>> http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Mary Ann" <MaryAnn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:96317DCF-99DA-4837-8123-BD7862D831F6@microsoft.com:
>>
>> > Thank you. I didn't want to use the layers but I couldn't figure out
>> > how else
>> > to have a separate table on the left for the menu and a table in the
>> > center
>> > for the products.
>> >
>> > "Ronx" wrote:
>> >
>> > > Before you worry about widescreen monitors, I suggest you look at the
>> > > page in FireFox - around 20% of your potential customers use FireFox.
>> > >
>> > > The absolute positioning, VML graphics, layers with incorrect height
>> > > attributes etc. are conspiring to hide some of the content.
>> > >
>> > > Also, the space bar should not be used for layout - FireFox shows
>> > > your
>> > > fonts slightly smaller than IE does, using the space bar for layout
>> > > means the layout will be different in FireFox.
>> > >
>> > > I suggest redesigning the page to use tables only, without text-boxes
>> > > and layers. Use % to set the width of the tables.
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
>> > > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
>> > >
>> > > http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "Mary Ann" <MaryAnn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:12B6E567-1BAF-4D27-9701-9A70C652A5DA@microsoft.com:
>> > >
>> > > > Would someone please tell me what size to set the table on page:
>> > > > www.mooreframes.com/vtwin.htm
>> > > >
>> > > > I'm refering to the table in the middle with the pics.
>> > > >
>> > > > It looks fine on my screen but to far to the left on a wide screen.
>> > > > I would
>> > > > like it to stretch wider when someone views it on a wider screen.
>> > > > Thank you
>> > >
>> > >
>>
>>



Re: Tables size by Richard

Richard
Sun Mar 30 09:33:14 CDT 2008

Hello Mary Ann & Ron,

A question if I might? Okay, maybe 2 questions...

Ron- I notice in your simple table layout above, you have (3) independent
tables. A "header" table, a "content" table and a "footer" table.

1- Is there a way to load each one separate into a web page? Meaning a site
might have (1) header table & (1) footer table used on all pages but may
want to load different content tables for the different web pages.

2- Is there a way to have the "navigation" table load into all web pages.
Maybe as a separate html document? This way when the navigation table gets
updated when a new page is added to the site, only one file needs manual
updating?

If there is more than one method to accomplish this, better give the easy
way.... I'm like Mary Ann.... trying to learn this stuff too!

Thanks Ron (or anyone else) again, nice basic table layout!

Richard in VA.
+++++++++++++++


"Richard In Va." <Reply-none@aol.com> wrote in message
news:%2322ZMkQkIHA.4940@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Nice job Ron... yeah, tables take a little to get used to at first.
> I like to mentally associate the html "table" to the behavior of
> rows/columns/cells that are so common in an Excel spreadsheet.
>
> Sort-of anyway...
>
> Richard in Va.
> +++++++++++++
>
>
> "Mary Ann" <MaryAnn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:12BCD144-A27A-4896-92FD-AFA6B88B4D13@microsoft.com...
>> Thank you so much! That helped a lot.
>>
>> "Ronx" wrote:
>>
>>> A simple table layout:
>>>
>>> <body>
>>> <table width="100%">
>>> <tr>
>>> <td>Logo goes here</td>
>>> <td>Page header goes here</td>
>>> </tr>
>>> </table>
>>> <table width="100%">
>>> <tr>
>>> <td width="120" valign="top">
>>> <table>
>>> <tr>
>>> <td>navigation goes here</td>
>>> </tr>
>>> <tr>
>>> <td>navigation goes here</td>
>>> </tr>
>>> <!-- repeat above cells for more navigation -->
>>> </table>
>>> </td>
>>> <td valign="top">
>>> <table>
>>> <tr>
>>> <td>Page content goes here</td>
>>> </tr>
>>> </table>
>>> </td>
>>> </tr>
>>> </table>
>>> <table width="100%">
>>> <tr>
>>> <td>Page footer goes here</td>
>>> </tr>
>>> </table>
>>> </body>
>>>
>>> You will need to add cellspacing, cellpadding and borders for each
>>> table, but you should see the basic idea.
>>> --
>>> Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
>>> Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
>>>
>>> http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mary Ann" <MaryAnn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:96317DCF-99DA-4837-8123-BD7862D831F6@microsoft.com:
>>>
>>> > Thank you. I didn't want to use the layers but I couldn't figure out
>>> > how else
>>> > to have a separate table on the left for the menu and a table in the
>>> > center
>>> > for the products.
>>> >
>>> > "Ronx" wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Before you worry about widescreen monitors, I suggest you look at
>>> > > the
>>> > > page in FireFox - around 20% of your potential customers use
>>> > > FireFox.
>>> > >
>>> > > The absolute positioning, VML graphics, layers with incorrect height
>>> > > attributes etc. are conspiring to hide some of the content.
>>> > >
>>> > > Also, the space bar should not be used for layout - FireFox shows
>>> > > your
>>> > > fonts slightly smaller than IE does, using the space bar for layout
>>> > > means the layout will be different in FireFox.
>>> > >
>>> > > I suggest redesigning the page to use tables only, without
>>> > > text-boxes
>>> > > and layers. Use % to set the width of the tables.
>>> > >
>>> > > --
>>> > > Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
>>> > > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
>>> > >
>>> > > http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > "Mary Ann" <MaryAnn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> > > news:12B6E567-1BAF-4D27-9701-9A70C652A5DA@microsoft.com:
>>> > >
>>> > > > Would someone please tell me what size to set the table on page:
>>> > > > www.mooreframes.com/vtwin.htm
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I'm refering to the table in the middle with the pics.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > It looks fine on my screen but to far to the left on a wide
>>> > > > screen. I would
>>> > > > like it to stretch wider when someone views it on a wider screen.
>>> > > > Thank you
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>>
>>>
>
>



Re: Tables size by Thomas

Thomas
Sun Mar 30 09:44:37 CDT 2008

Yes, you can use the FP Include Page Component (you will have to insert it manually into each page
to begin with) or if redesigning your site with FP2003 or EW, then you can use a Dynamic Web
Template.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
http://www.Ecom-Data.com
==============================================


"Richard in Va." <re@noreply.com> wrote in message news:%23pTX7LnkIHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Hello Mary Ann & Ron,
>
> A question if I might? Okay, maybe 2 questions...
>
> Ron- I notice in your simple table layout above, you have (3) independent tables. A "header"
> table, a "content" table and a "footer" table.
>
> 1- Is there a way to load each one separate into a web page? Meaning a site might have (1) header
> table & (1) footer table used on all pages but may want to load different content tables for the
> different web pages.
>
> 2- Is there a way to have the "navigation" table load into all web pages. Maybe as a separate html
> document? This way when the navigation table gets updated when a new page is added to the site,
> only one file needs manual updating?
>
> If there is more than one method to accomplish this, better give the easy way.... I'm like Mary
> Ann.... trying to learn this stuff too!
>
> Thanks Ron (or anyone else) again, nice basic table layout!
>
> Richard in VA.
> +++++++++++++++
>
>
> "Richard In Va." <Reply-none@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:%2322ZMkQkIHA.4940@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Nice job Ron... yeah, tables take a little to get used to at first.
>> I like to mentally associate the html "table" to the behavior of rows/columns/cells that are so
>> common in an Excel spreadsheet.
>>
>> Sort-of anyway...
>>
>> Richard in Va.
>> +++++++++++++
>>
>>
>> "Mary Ann" <MaryAnn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:12BCD144-A27A-4896-92FD-AFA6B88B4D13@microsoft.com...
>>> Thank you so much! That helped a lot.
>>>
>>> "Ronx" wrote:
>>>
>>>> A simple table layout:
>>>>
>>>> <body>
>>>> <table width="100%">
>>>> <tr>
>>>> <td>Logo goes here</td>
>>>> <td>Page header goes here</td>
>>>> </tr>
>>>> </table>
>>>> <table width="100%">
>>>> <tr>
>>>> <td width="120" valign="top">
>>>> <table>
>>>> <tr>
>>>> <td>navigation goes here</td>
>>>> </tr>
>>>> <tr>
>>>> <td>navigation goes here</td>
>>>> </tr>
>>>> <!-- repeat above cells for more navigation -->
>>>> </table>
>>>> </td>
>>>> <td valign="top">
>>>> <table>
>>>> <tr>
>>>> <td>Page content goes here</td>
>>>> </tr>
>>>> </table>
>>>> </td>
>>>> </tr>
>>>> </table>
>>>> <table width="100%">
>>>> <tr>
>>>> <td>Page footer goes here</td>
>>>> </tr>
>>>> </table>
>>>> </body>
>>>>
>>>> You will need to add cellspacing, cellpadding and borders for each
>>>> table, but you should see the basic idea.
>>>> --
>>>> Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
>>>> Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Mary Ann" <MaryAnn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:96317DCF-99DA-4837-8123-BD7862D831F6@microsoft.com:
>>>>
>>>> > Thank you. I didn't want to use the layers but I couldn't figure out how else
>>>> > to have a separate table on the left for the menu and a table in the center
>>>> > for the products.
>>>> >
>>>> > "Ronx" wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > Before you worry about widescreen monitors, I suggest you look at the
>>>> > > page in FireFox - around 20% of your potential customers use FireFox.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > The absolute positioning, VML graphics, layers with incorrect height
>>>> > > attributes etc. are conspiring to hide some of the content.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Also, the space bar should not be used for layout - FireFox shows your
>>>> > > fonts slightly smaller than IE does, using the space bar for layout
>>>> > > means the layout will be different in FireFox.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I suggest redesigning the page to use tables only, without text-boxes
>>>> > > and layers. Use % to set the width of the tables.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > --
>>>> > > Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
>>>> > > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > "Mary Ann" <MaryAnn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> > > news:12B6E567-1BAF-4D27-9701-9A70C652A5DA@microsoft.com:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > > Would someone please tell me what size to set the table on page:
>>>> > > > www.mooreframes.com/vtwin.htm
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > I'm refering to the table in the middle with the pics.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > It looks fine on my screen but to far to the left on a wide screen. I would
>>>> > > > like it to stretch wider when someone views it on a wider screen. Thank you
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>
>