CJSnet
Sat Jun 24 17:41:00 CDT 2006
Thanks for the feedback. Will take it all on-board.
Was it clear to you that the e-mail address request was an optional step and
you could continue without entering it? If so, why would you want to close
the page? If not, how could we make this clearer.
Just a note but it's London time because the street is a London street. The
idea is to give the visitor a sense that they are 'there', e.g. if they live
in Japan but want to shop in Oxford Street (coming soon). They can see the
weather conditions, hear the sounds, and see the time. Just a suggested
feature we also liked.
What we'd like based on your feedback is when they enter the big page, to
have some sort of 'floating flash progress bar' which will tell them how
close the page is to loading.
Are you or anyone able to point us in the right direction of a nice swf
device like this? It needs to sit near the bottom of the page over the
streetscape, so that it doesn't obscure the street introduction which they
can be reading whilst the page loads (on dial-up). We're quite happy with
the broadband load speed.
Also, do you know any better way to do the preloading of a large page --
maybe some sort of onload command? We can only find a way to do that for
images, not for an .htm file?
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Thanks,
CJSnet
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"Steve Easton" <admin@95isalive.com> wrote in message
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> In line.
> Please take my comments as constructive criticism, as that's my intention.
>
> "CJSnet" <usenet@TEETHthe-simpson.tv> wrote in message
> news:ejM1yD4lGHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Thanks for the feedback.
>>
>>> <imho>
>>> That said, why do you feel it's necessary to download a "hidden" page
>>> and make the visitor wait while it downloads??
>>
>> I think you may have misunderstood. It is purely a way to preload and
>> cache the following BIG page which is about 2MB download. By starting it
>> loading then, it makes it quicker to appear when they click the button to
>> go to it.
>
> I understand what you're trying to do with that.
> I would simply make a note on the opening page that the next page will
> take "some time" to load.
> Additionally, why have a visitor download 2 mb of data when they may never
> click the link for the next page.
> You've just wasted 2 mb of bandwidth.
> Also, ( just an opinion ) when I see a page open that wants my email
> address entered, my first inclination is to close the page and go
> elsewhere.
>
>
>>> The name of the game is to make the initial page open as quickly as
>>> possible.
>>> Then "if" the visitor is inclined to click the link to the next page,
>>> they will be more apt to be "patient" while the page loads.
>>
>> Exactly. What we need is a quiet, undetectable 'preload' method to
>> preload the next page in its entirity (not just its images as there are
>> dozens of them).
> I checked the browser cache and you're right, there is a ton of content
> loaded when the first page loads.
>
>>> Also, fwiw, I seldom if ever, click a link that I can't see in the
>>> status bar because it's "hidden" by some "not so clever" JavaScript
>>
>> What link are you referring to? None of them do that.
>
> You display the time and date in the status bar. It hides the links when
> you hover a link.
> Also it's London time, nice to know but why??
>
>>> Why do you want to draw attention to a space 20 by 500 pixels at the
>>> bottom left hand of the page after you gone to so much effort to grab
>>> their attention in the big window just above the task bar.
>>
>> We didn't say we wanted to draw attention to any space. Where are you
>> seeing this 20x500 item? All we have is a hidden div which does not show
>> on any browser we test it on.
>
> London time and date in the status bar as mentioned above
>
>>> Create the page to grab the visitors attention, not to prove how clever
>>> you are and how much eye candy you can stuff into one page.
>>
> Ok, the recommended time to have a page load is 15 seconds or less, or you
> lose the visitors interest.
> It does load this quick on a high speed connection, but 40% of the world
> is still on dial up.
>
>>
>>> </imho>
>>>
>>> And also, your doctype is incorrect and forces the browser into quirks
>>> mode.
>>
>> Thanks. What is quirks mode? It seems to appear fine in all browsers.
>> And what should the doctype be IYO.
>
> Quirks mode is when there's no doctype present in the page to tell the
> browser what W3C standards the page is edited to.
> It forces the browser into a default mode, and your content may or may not
> display as you intended it to in other browsers.
> All browsers comply with doctypes.
>
> As for the correct doctype, that's one you're going to have to figure out.
> These are the DOCTYPES for HTML4.01
>
> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
> "
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
>
> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
> "
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
>
> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Frameset//EN"
> "
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/frameset.dtd">
>
> Paste one of these at the very top of your HTML document
>
>
> And here's how to make sure it's in all the new pages that you create:
>
http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/tutorials/doctypesolution.asp
>
>
>
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> Steve Easton
> Microsoft MVP FrontPage
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>
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>
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>
>
>> Thanks,
>> CJSnet
>>
>> Try Google Quik-e-searchT at www.Superhighstreet.com/home
>> ...Finds anything or they buy it for you!
>>
>> [remove 'teeth' to e-mail me]
>>
>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Steve Easton
>>> Microsoft MVP FrontPage
>>> FP Cleaner
>>>
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
>>> Hit Me FP
>>>
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm
>>>
>>>
>>> "CJSnet" <usenet@TEETHthe-simpson.tv> wrote in message
>>> news:u7gE8NZlGHA.1272@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi all, hope someone is able to help!...
>>>>
>>>> We have created this page:
>>>>
http://www.superhighstreet.com/George-Street-Richmond/splash
>>>>
>>>> The purpose of it is:
>>>> * To catch visitors' e-mail addresses
>>>> * To 'secretly' preload the large page that follows when you click the
>>>> big button
>>>>
>>>> 1) Is there any way to stop the mouse cursor in IE and other browsers
>>>> having a geriatric fit during the loading of the big page in the hidden
>>>> div/iframe? This makes it unsightly and difficult for users to click
>>>> inside the form field.
>>>>
>>>> 2) Although we have added
>>>> <script>document.join.q.focus();</script>
>>>> under the form, and added name=join to the form tag, the cursor still
>>>> does not jump into the form field automatically. Yet this works fine
>>>> at our other page www.superhighstreet.com/home where it is used.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance for any tips. If you don't have an answer please
>>>> don't feel a need to reply ;)
>>>> --
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Me
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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