Layers and SWF

I've placed a swf on a layer that I'm trying to use as a background on a
page. When I put another layer over it, it appears in design view, but
disappears in preview. Is there some reason I can't put a layer over a flash
file?

Kevin
Mon Apr 03 14:10:15 CDT 2006

You can, but unless the layer is transparent, it will obscure whatever is
under it.

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"neenmarie" <neenmarie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:66E87049-D888-4172-BEA8-FED037256465@microsoft.com...
> I've placed a swf on a layer that I'm trying to use as a background on a
> page. When I put another layer over it, it appears in design view, but
> disappears in preview. Is there some reason I can't put a layer over a
> flash
> file?

neenmarie
Mon Apr 03 14:34:02 CDT 2006

I'm trying to use the swf as a background. So, I don't think need the next
layer to be transparent. Why doesn't my layer show up on top of the swf. I
tried putting the layers on without the swf and they all show. But, when I
insert the swf, the swf shows up but, layer on top of it is no longer visible.

"Kevin Spencer" wrote:

> You can, but unless the layer is transparent, it will obscure whatever is
> under it.
>
> --
> HTH,
>
> Kevin Spencer
> Microsoft MVP
> Professional Numbskull
>
> Show me your certification without works,
> and I'll show my certification
> *by* my works.
>
> "neenmarie" <neenmarie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:66E87049-D888-4172-BEA8-FED037256465@microsoft.com...
> > I've placed a swf on a layer that I'm trying to use as a background on a
> > page. When I put another layer over it, it appears in design view, but
> > disappears in preview. Is there some reason I can't put a layer over a
> > flash
> > file?
>
>
>

Murray
Mon Apr 03 14:46:06 CDT 2006

Not so. Flash pokes through layers like a hot knife through butter!

All Active content on a page will always rise to the top, so to speak,
including Flash, certain form elements, Java applets, and Active X controls.
This means that each of these will poke through layers. There is not a good
cross-browser/platform reliable way to solve this issue, but if you can be
confident in your visitors using IE 5+ or NN6+, then you can use the Flash
wmode parameter.

MM articles:
http://www.macromedia.com/support/flash/ts/documents/flash_top_layer.htm
http://www.macromedia.com/support/flash/ts/documents/wmode.htm

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"Kevin Spencer" <kevin@DIESPAMMERSDIEtakempis.com> wrote in message
news:%23qlw%23I1VGHA.5592@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> You can, but unless the layer is transparent, it will obscure whatever is
> under it.
>
> --
> HTH,
>
> Kevin Spencer
> Microsoft MVP
> Professional Numbskull
>
> Show me your certification without works,
> and I'll show my certification
> *by* my works.
>
> "neenmarie" <neenmarie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:66E87049-D888-4172-BEA8-FED037256465@microsoft.com...
>> I've placed a swf on a layer that I'm trying to use as a background on a
>> page. When I put another layer over it, it appears in design view, but
>> disappears in preview. Is there some reason I can't put a layer over a
>> flash
>> file?
>
>

Kevin
Mon Apr 03 16:35:34 CDT 2006

Check the z-index of the layers. The higher z-index will be on top.

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
Professional Numbskull

Show me your certification without works,
and I'll show my certification
*by* my works.

"neenmarie" <neenmarie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:99B1CC22-A26B-431D-A16B-43F8FA4AD85F@microsoft.com...
> I'm trying to use the swf as a background. So, I don't think need the
> next
> layer to be transparent. Why doesn't my layer show up on top of the swf.
> I
> tried putting the layers on without the swf and they all show. But, when
> I
> insert the swf, the swf shows up but, layer on top of it is no longer
> visible.
>
> "Kevin Spencer" wrote:
>
>> You can, but unless the layer is transparent, it will obscure whatever is
>> under it.
>>
>> --
>> HTH,
>>
>> Kevin Spencer
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Professional Numbskull
>>
>> Show me your certification without works,
>> and I'll show my certification
>> *by* my works.
>>
>> "neenmarie" <neenmarie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:66E87049-D888-4172-BEA8-FED037256465@microsoft.com...
>> > I've placed a swf on a layer that I'm trying to use as a background on
>> > a
>> > page. When I put another layer over it, it appears in design view, but
>> > disappears in preview. Is there some reason I can't put a layer over a
>> > flash
>> > file?
>>
>>
>>

Kevin
Mon Apr 03 16:36:05 CDT 2006

Well, there you go. I should have asked Dave!

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
Professional Numbskull

Show me your certification without works,
and I'll show my certification
*by* my works.

"Murray" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
news:%23DNO$c1VGHA.2476@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Not so. Flash pokes through layers like a hot knife through butter!
>
> All Active content on a page will always rise to the top, so to speak,
> including Flash, certain form elements, Java applets, and Active X
> controls.
> This means that each of these will poke through layers. There is not a
> good
> cross-browser/platform reliable way to solve this issue, but if you can be
> confident in your visitors using IE 5+ or NN6+, then you can use the Flash
> wmode parameter.
>
> MM articles:
> http://www.macromedia.com/support/flash/ts/documents/flash_top_layer.htm
> http://www.macromedia.com/support/flash/ts/documents/wmode.htm
>
> --
> Murray
> --------------
> MVP FrontPage
>
>
> "Kevin Spencer" <kevin@DIESPAMMERSDIEtakempis.com> wrote in message
> news:%23qlw%23I1VGHA.5592@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> You can, but unless the layer is transparent, it will obscure whatever is
>> under it.
>>
>> --
>> HTH,
>>
>> Kevin Spencer
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Professional Numbskull
>>
>> Show me your certification without works,
>> and I'll show my certification
>> *by* my works.
>>
>> "neenmarie" <neenmarie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:66E87049-D888-4172-BEA8-FED037256465@microsoft.com...
>>> I've placed a swf on a layer that I'm trying to use as a background on a
>>> page. When I put another layer over it, it appears in design view, but
>>> disappears in preview. Is there some reason I can't put a layer over a
>>> flash
>>> file?
>>
>>
>
>

Murray
Mon Apr 03 17:18:20 CDT 2006

It's not a z-index issue. You simply can't do it.

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--------------
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"Kevin Spencer" <kevin@DIESPAMMERSDIEtakempis.com> wrote in message
news:e5U4La2VGHA.5200@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Check the z-index of the layers. The higher z-index will be on top.
>
> --
> HTH,
>
> Kevin Spencer
> Microsoft MVP
> Professional Numbskull
>
> Show me your certification without works,
> and I'll show my certification
> *by* my works.
>
> "neenmarie" <neenmarie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:99B1CC22-A26B-431D-A16B-43F8FA4AD85F@microsoft.com...
>> I'm trying to use the swf as a background. So, I don't think need the
>> next
>> layer to be transparent. Why doesn't my layer show up on top of the swf.
>> I
>> tried putting the layers on without the swf and they all show. But, when
>> I
>> insert the swf, the swf shows up but, layer on top of it is no longer
>> visible.
>>
>> "Kevin Spencer" wrote:
>>
>>> You can, but unless the layer is transparent, it will obscure whatever
>>> is
>>> under it.
>>>
>>> --
>>> HTH,
>>>
>>> Kevin Spencer
>>> Microsoft MVP
>>> Professional Numbskull
>>>
>>> Show me your certification without works,
>>> and I'll show my certification
>>> *by* my works.
>>>
>>> "neenmarie" <neenmarie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:66E87049-D888-4172-BEA8-FED037256465@microsoft.com...
>>> > I've placed a swf on a layer that I'm trying to use as a background on
>>> > a
>>> > page. When I put another layer over it, it appears in design view,
>>> > but
>>> > disappears in preview. Is there some reason I can't put a layer over
>>> > a
>>> > flash
>>> > file?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>

Jim
Mon Apr 03 17:26:24 CDT 2006

On Mon, 3 Apr 2006 18:18:20 -0400, "Murray"
<forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote:

>It's not a z-index issue. You simply can't do it.

http://particletree.com/features/using-flash-as-an-animation-underlayer/
Jim Cheshire
Jimco Software
http://www.jimcosoftware.com
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Author of
Special Edition Using Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003

Murray
Tue Apr 04 06:07:24 CDT 2006

That's the same as the wmode link I posted earlier.

As far as I know, this method is not reliable cross-browser/platform, no?

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--------------
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"Jim Cheshire" <contactme@mysite.com> wrote in message
news:7883321f96vhl3590lqi4bf5bd3ai85b9i@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 3 Apr 2006 18:18:20 -0400, "Murray"
> <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote:
>
>>It's not a z-index issue. You simply can't do it.
>
> http://particletree.com/features/using-flash-as-an-animation-underlayer/
> Jim Cheshire
> Jimco Software
> http://www.jimcosoftware.com
> Add-ins for Microsoft FrontPage
>
> Author of
> Special Edition Using Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003
>
>

Jim
Tue Apr 04 07:25:46 CDT 2006

On Tue, 4 Apr 2006 07:07:24 -0400, "Murray"
<forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote:

>That's the same as the wmode link I posted earlier.
>
>As far as I know, this method is not reliable cross-browser/platform, no?

Not really sure. I haven't tested it yet.
Jim Cheshire
Jimco Software
http://www.jimcosoftware.com
Add-ins for Microsoft FrontPage

Author of
Special Edition Using Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003