Inserted symbols and site publishing errors.

When I publish a web site from local to www or visa versa, many of my ' and -
become ?. I then have to go through all the pages and manually change the ?
marks to either a single quote ' or a dash -. Also, when I try to insert a
symbol, it looks fine in my FP 2003 editor and preview but when I look at the
actual web site, it looks like Japanese. Any ideas? My clients are not
really impressed when I don't know this is happening.

Jens
Tue Apr 26 02:18:30 CDT 2005

Post a link to a page that shows this.

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.

JSeitz wrote:
> When I publish a web site from local to www or visa versa, many of my ' and -
> become ?. I then have to go through all the pages and manually change the ?
> marks to either a single quote ' or a dash -. Also, when I try to insert a
> symbol, it looks fine in my FP 2003 editor and preview but when I look at the
> actual web site, it looks like Japanese. Any ideas? My clients are not
> really impressed when I don't know this is happening.
>
>

Ronx
Tue Apr 26 02:36:32 CDT 2005

You are using "smart quotes" and similar entities and your server
(probably) sends an HTTP header forcing the character set to be UTF-8
(this can be confirmed if you show us a link to the problem page).
UTF-8 will always display these symbols as '?' unless they are
inserted in the page as numeric or character references/entities.
See www.rxs-enterprises.org/tests/pages/symbols.htm
and http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_entitiesref.asp
--
Ron Symonds
Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

"JSeitz" <JSeitz@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B460A455-13A2-4435-B81A-E7E119CAEF05@microsoft.com...
> When I publish a web site from local to www or visa versa, many of
> my ' and -
> become ?. I then have to go through all the pages and manually
> change the ?
> marks to either a single quote ' or a dash -. Also, when I try to
> insert a
> symbol, it looks fine in my FP 2003 editor and preview but when I
> look at the
> actual web site, it looks like Japanese. Any ideas? My clients are
> not
> really impressed when I don't know this is happening.
>
>

JSeitz
Tue Apr 26 08:08:03 CDT 2005

Here is a link where I insert a symbol é - It looks fine in FP but in the
browser looks completely different.

http://www.johnpaulstrain.com/art/beside-still-waters.htm

I have corrected all the pages with the ?. The ? happened after I moved all
my client sites to a new server. Everything was fine before that.

Is there anyway to change a setting to keep this from happening? I have
another site I am ready to publish and really don't want to go through every
page to make those corrections.

"Jens Peter Karlsen [FP MVP]" wrote:

> Post a link to a page that shows this.
>
> Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.
>
> JSeitz wrote:
> > When I publish a web site from local to www or visa versa, many of my ' and -
> > become ?. I then have to go through all the pages and manually change the ?
> > marks to either a single quote ' or a dash -. Also, when I try to insert a
> > symbol, it looks fine in my FP 2003 editor and preview but when I look at the
> > actual web site, it looks like Japanese. Any ideas? My clients are not
> > really impressed when I don't know this is happening.
> >
> >
>

JSeitz
Tue Apr 26 08:16:03 CDT 2005

http://www.johnpaulstrain.com/art/beside-still-waters.htm shows the effects
of trying to insert a é symbol. I don't currently have any pages with the ?
but could probably create one. I'm publishing a site as we speak and will
probably get some of them.

"Ronx" wrote:

> You are using "smart quotes" and similar entities and your server
> (probably) sends an HTTP header forcing the character set to be UTF-8
> (this can be confirmed if you show us a link to the problem page).
> UTF-8 will always display these symbols as '?' unless they are
> inserted in the page as numeric or character references/entities.
> See www.rxs-enterprises.org/tests/pages/symbols.htm
> and http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_entitiesref.asp
> --
> Ron Symonds
> Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
> Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
>
> "JSeitz" <JSeitz@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B460A455-13A2-4435-B81A-E7E119CAEF05@microsoft.com...
> > When I publish a web site from local to www or visa versa, many of
> > my ' and -
> > become ?. I then have to go through all the pages and manually
> > change the ?
> > marks to either a single quote ' or a dash -. Also, when I try to
> > insert a
> > symbol, it looks fine in my FP 2003 editor and preview but when I
> > look at the
> > actual web site, it looks like Japanese. Any ideas? My clients are
> > not
> > really impressed when I don't know this is happening.
> >
> >
>
>
>

Ronx
Tue Apr 26 08:55:57 CDT 2005

The http headers being delivered by your server are:

Response Headers -
http://www.johnpaulstrain.com/art/beside-still-waters.htm
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 13:45:51 GMT
Server: Apache
Last-Modified: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:59:31 GMT
Etag: "40c1fc-27fa-44b112c0"
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 10234
Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=100
Connection: Keep-Alive
Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8

200 OK

The Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
sets the character set, and UTF-8 requires that symbols be entered in
the HTML as entities - see my previous post (included below)
Symbols include any character not included in the ASCII codes 32 to
127, and a few within that range as well, such as <,>, apostrophe '.

You could ask that the host remove this header, or replace it with
charset=ISO-8859-1. However the replacement will affect websites that
require UTF-8 (depending on how the server is configured.)
--
Ron Symonds
Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

"JSeitz" <JSeitz@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8A4E9779-E075-4BFA-AC77-DA2FC353C9F8@microsoft.com...
> http://www.johnpaulstrain.com/art/beside-still-waters.htm shows the
> effects
> of trying to insert a é symbol. I don't currently have any pages
> with the ?
> but could probably create one. I'm publishing a site as we speak
> and will
> probably get some of them.
>
> "Ronx" wrote:
>
>> You are using "smart quotes" and similar entities and your server
>> (probably) sends an HTTP header forcing the character set to be
>> UTF-8
>> (this can be confirmed if you show us a link to the problem page).
>> UTF-8 will always display these symbols as '?' unless they are
>> inserted in the page as numeric or character references/entities.
>> See www.rxs-enterprises.org/tests/pages/symbols.htm
>> and http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_entitiesref.asp
>> --
>> Ron Symonds
>> Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
>> Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
>>
>> "JSeitz" <JSeitz@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:B460A455-13A2-4435-B81A-E7E119CAEF05@microsoft.com...
>> > When I publish a web site from local to www or visa versa, many
>> > of
>> > my ' and -
>> > become ?. I then have to go through all the pages and manually
>> > change the ?
>> > marks to either a single quote ' or a dash -. Also, when I try
>> > to
>> > insert a
>> > symbol, it looks fine in my FP 2003 editor and preview but when I
>> > look at the
>> > actual web site, it looks like Japanese. Any ideas? My clients
>> > are
>> > not
>> > really impressed when I don't know this is happening.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>

Ronx
Tue Apr 26 09:02:59 CDT 2005

The Gicl? shows as Gicl square in IE, and as Gicl?es in FireFox.
Incidentally, there are layout issues with FireFox as the browser is
resized to smaller width.
--
Ron Symonds
Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

"JSeitz" <JSeitz@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8A4E9779-E075-4BFA-AC77-DA2FC353C9F8@microsoft.com...
> http://www.johnpaulstrain.com/art/beside-still-waters.htm shows the
> effects
> of trying to insert a é symbol. I don't currently have any pages
> with the ?
> but could probably create one. I'm publishing a site as we speak
> and will
> probably get some of them.
>
> "Ronx" wrote:
>
>> You are using "smart quotes" and similar entities and your server
>> (probably) sends an HTTP header forcing the character set to be
>> UTF-8
>> (this can be confirmed if you show us a link to the problem page).
>> UTF-8 will always display these symbols as '?' unless they are
>> inserted in the page as numeric or character references/entities.
>> See www.rxs-enterprises.org/tests/pages/symbols.htm
>> and http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_entitiesref.asp
>> --
>> Ron Symonds
>> Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
>> Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
>>
>> "JSeitz" <JSeitz@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:B460A455-13A2-4435-B81A-E7E119CAEF05@microsoft.com...
>> > When I publish a web site from local to www or visa versa, many
>> > of
>> > my ' and -
>> > become ?. I then have to go through all the pages and manually
>> > change the ?
>> > marks to either a single quote ' or a dash -. Also, when I try
>> > to
>> > insert a
>> > symbol, it looks fine in my FP 2003 editor and preview but when I
>> > look at the
>> > actual web site, it looks like Japanese. Any ideas? My clients
>> > are
>> > not
>> > really impressed when I don't know this is happening.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>