I have some HTML code that doesn't do quite what I need. Can anyone help with
the following?

I've divided my home page into 3 columns. First column is pictures, second
is text, 3rd is navigation buttons. For SEO purposes, I want the 2nd column
to appear first in the HTML. I was kindly given some HTML code that creats a
table that achieves this: 2nd column is first, followed by 1st column,
followed by 3rd column.

I would like to change the order slightly so that it is: 2nd column first,
3rd column 2nd, 1st column last. Can anyone tell me what I need to do to the
following code to acheive this?

<div align="center">
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"
bgcolor="#FFFFFF" id="table1">
<tr><td><br></td>
<td rowspan="2" valign="top"><br><br>This content is first.</td>
<td><br></td></tr>
<tr><td>This content is second (I would like it to be third)</td>
<td>This content is third (I would like it to be second)</td>
</tr></table>
</div>

The code effectively creats a table with 2 cells in the first column, 1 on
the second, 2 in the third. By using the bottom cell of the first and last
column, the middle column appears first in the HTML. If you would like to see
the result, I've created a test page:
http://www.france-property-and-information.com/test_page.htm

Very grateful for any suggestions.
Doug Stewart

P.S. I think it is about time I learned some basic HTML so that I can do
this type of stuff myself. Can anyone recommend a book that is fairly basic
(I'm not super technical)?

Re: Help with HTML please by clintonG

clintonG
Thu Sep 01 16:11:54 CDT 2005

Don't waste your time -- our anybody else's with this nonsense -- I've
mastered Search Engine Optimization (SEO) to the extent that it can be
mastered hoping you are not a damn fool and can understand I am trying to
help you understand the way Google and other search engines really work is a
closely held trade secret. Hello? Thus, it is sound to conclude most SEO is
fraudulent but there are many truths and facts to be learned regardless some
of which I will help you get started with

The rumor contends that text is read from left to right therefore SEO can be
improved by putting the important text on the left and top of the page is a
fallacy; a false conclusion based on a true supposition. Its true that
browsers and other parsers parse text top to bottom and left to right but
any conclusion suggesting doing so improves search ranking is false. There
is absolutely no proof that this context has ever has helped improve search
engine ranking unless you consider some boob with a website claiming it does
to be proof.

Briefly then, the best way to improve search engine rankings is to use
semantic markup, e.g. pure HTML with relevant elements ranked in order as
h1, h2, h3 and so on in each page. That means every page should optimally
start with an h1 element and so on. There is much more to learn I assure you
but again, the rumor you are asking questions about is not worth discussing
any further.

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"Doug Stewart" <DougStewart@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:CC02EDA0-25B1-4CA4-A6D2-905E87936B64@microsoft.com...
>I have some HTML code that doesn't do quite what I need. Can anyone help
>with
> the following?
>
> I've divided my home page into 3 columns. First column is pictures, second
> is text, 3rd is navigation buttons. For SEO purposes, I want the 2nd
> column
> to appear first in the HTML. I was kindly given some HTML code that creats
> a
> table that achieves this: 2nd column is first, followed by 1st column,
> followed by 3rd column.
>
> I would like to change the order slightly so that it is: 2nd column first,
> 3rd column 2nd, 1st column last. Can anyone tell me what I need to do to
> the
> following code to acheive this?
>
> <div align="center">
> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"
> bgcolor="#FFFFFF" id="table1">
> <tr><td><br></td>
> <td rowspan="2" valign="top"><br><br>This content is first.</td>
> <td><br></td></tr>
> <tr><td>This content is second (I would like it to be third)</td>
> <td>This content is third (I would like it to be second)</td>
> </tr></table>
> </div>
>
> The code effectively creats a table with 2 cells in the first column, 1 on
> the second, 2 in the third. By using the bottom cell of the first and last
> column, the middle column appears first in the HTML. If you would like to
> see
> the result, I've created a test page:
> http://www.france-property-and-information.com/test_page.htm
>
> Very grateful for any suggestions.
> Doug Stewart
>
> P.S. I think it is about time I learned some basic HTML so that I can do
> this type of stuff myself. Can anyone recommend a book that is fairly
> basic
> (I'm not super technical)?
>



Re: Help with HTML please by Steve

Steve
Thu Sep 01 18:18:53 CDT 2005

It's not worth the bother.
The "good" search engines spider the page title and the visible text on
the page.
Regardless of where the visible text is located.

--
Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
95isalive
This site is best viewed............
.......................with a computer

"Doug Stewart" <DougStewart@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:CC02EDA0-25B1-4CA4-A6D2-905E87936B64@microsoft.com...
> I have some HTML code that doesn't do quite what I need. Can anyone
help with
> the following?
>
> I've divided my home page into 3 columns. First column is pictures,
second
> is text, 3rd is navigation buttons. For SEO purposes, I want the 2nd
column
> to appear first in the HTML. I was kindly given some HTML code that
creats a
> table that achieves this: 2nd column is first, followed by 1st column,
> followed by 3rd column.
>
> I would like to change the order slightly so that it is: 2nd column
first,
> 3rd column 2nd, 1st column last. Can anyone tell me what I need to do
to the
> following code to acheive this?
>
> <div align="center">
> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"
> bgcolor="#FFFFFF" id="table1">
> <tr><td><br></td>
> <td rowspan="2" valign="top"><br><br>This content is first.</td>
> <td><br></td></tr>
> <tr><td>This content is second (I would like it to be third)</td>
> <td>This content is third (I would like it to be second)</td>
> </tr></table>
> </div>
>
> The code effectively creats a table with 2 cells in the first column,
1 on
> the second, 2 in the third. By using the bottom cell of the first and
last
> column, the middle column appears first in the HTML. If you would like
to see
> the result, I've created a test page:
> http://www.france-property-and-information.com/test_page.htm
>
> Very grateful for any suggestions.
> Doug Stewart
>
> P.S. I think it is about time I learned some basic HTML so that I can
do
> this type of stuff myself. Can anyone recommend a book that is fairly
basic
> (I'm not super technical)?
>



Re: Help with HTML please by Stefan

Stefan
Fri Sep 02 05:07:16 CDT 2005

In Code view just Cut the cell
<td>This content is second (I would like it to be third)</td>
and paste it right after the cell
<td>This content is third (I would like it to be second)</td>

So you have would have

<div align="center">
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" id="table1">
<tr><td><br></td>
<td rowspan="2" valign="top"><br><br>This content is first.</td>
<td><br></td></tr>
<tr>
<td>This content is third (I would like it to be second)</td>
<td>This content is second (I would like it to be third)</td>
</tr></table>
</div>

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"Doug Stewart" <DougStewart@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:CC02EDA0-25B1-4CA4-A6D2-905E87936B64@microsoft.com...
|I have some HTML code that doesn't do quite what I need. Can anyone help with
| the following?
|
| I've divided my home page into 3 columns. First column is pictures, second
| is text, 3rd is navigation buttons. For SEO purposes, I want the 2nd column
| to appear first in the HTML. I was kindly given some HTML code that creats a
| table that achieves this: 2nd column is first, followed by 1st column,
| followed by 3rd column.
|
| I would like to change the order slightly so that it is: 2nd column first,
| 3rd column 2nd, 1st column last. Can anyone tell me what I need to do to the
| following code to acheive this?
|
| <div align="center">
| <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"
| bgcolor="#FFFFFF" id="table1">
| <tr><td><br></td>
| <td rowspan="2" valign="top"><br><br>This content is first.</td>
| <td><br></td></tr>
| <tr><td>This content is second (I would like it to be third)</td>
| <td>This content is third (I would like it to be second)</td>
| </tr></table>
| </div>
|
| The code effectively creats a table with 2 cells in the first column, 1 on
| the second, 2 in the third. By using the bottom cell of the first and last
| column, the middle column appears first in the HTML. If you would like to see
| the result, I've created a test page:
| http://www.france-property-and-information.com/test_page.htm
|
| Very grateful for any suggestions.
| Doug Stewart
|
| P.S. I think it is about time I learned some basic HTML so that I can do
| this type of stuff myself. Can anyone recommend a book that is fairly basic
| (I'm not super technical)?
|



Re: Help with HTML please by DougStewart

DougStewart
Fri Sep 02 14:13:04 CDT 2005

Stefan: Thanks very much!! Works like a treat.

Steve, clintonG: Thanks for the feedback. My experience is that where text
is positioned on a page is important.

Re: Help with HTML please by Steve

Steve
Fri Sep 02 15:23:26 CDT 2005

I think you'll find it doesn't matter with Google.
When you search using Google it returns your search term and
a certain amount of text either side of the term. Regardless of the
location

I realize there are other search engines though.

;-)

--
Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
95isalive
This site is best viewed............
.......................with a computer

"Doug Stewart" <DougStewart@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:37258D50-4D55-4DB5-8572-3697536A9631@microsoft.com...
> Stefan: Thanks very much!! Works like a treat.
>
> Steve, clintonG: Thanks for the feedback. My experience is that where
text
> is positioned on a page is important.



Re: Help with HTML please by DougStewart

DougStewart
Fri Sep 02 16:58:22 CDT 2005

Stefan

I spoke too soon, your proposed change moves the text but doesn't do what I
had hoped for. The original code divided the page into 3 columns such that
the HTML order was: text in the middle column first (middle column is a
single cell), text in the left column second (OK, text in the bottom row of
the left column), text in the right column last.

Your code change moves the text around, but doesn't change the order. The
order I'm looking for is: 2nd column first, 3rd column 2nd, 1st column last.

Thanks for your suggestion, but do you know a code change that achieves this?

Best regards, Doug

Re: Help with HTML please by Ronx

Ronx
Sat Sep 03 03:10:09 CDT 2005

Try this - it uses nested tables to achieve the effect.
<table border="0" width="100%" id="table1" cellspacing="0"
cellpadding="0">
<tr>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
<td rowspan="2"><br>
<table border="0" width="100%" id="table2" cellspacing="0"
cellpadding="0">
<tr>
<td>col2 row1</td>
<td>col3 row1</td>
</tr>
</table>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>col1 row1</td>
</tr>
</table>

--
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Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

"Doug Stewart" <DougStewart@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:3A31C148-A0C5-4D86-A628-3EA994F9AF70@microsoft.com...
> Stefan
>
> I spoke too soon, your proposed change moves the text but doesn't do
> what I
> had hoped for. The original code divided the page into 3 columns
> such that
> the HTML order was: text in the middle column first (middle column
> is a
> single cell), text in the left column second (OK, text in the bottom
> row of
> the left column), text in the right column last.
>
> Your code change moves the text around, but doesn't change the
> order. The
> order I'm looking for is: 2nd column first, 3rd column 2nd, 1st
> column last.
>
> Thanks for your suggestion, but do you know a code change that
> achieves this?
>
> Best regards, Doug



Re: Help with HTML please by DougStewart

DougStewart
Sat Sep 03 15:36:01 CDT 2005

Ron

Thanks. That code really does do what I want!! Redid my page, uploaded it
and checked it. Great! Thanks very much.

Doug