Heavy code

One of the web pages on my site is too heavy and slow. I suspect that it is
heavy with excessive code. Is there a way to clean the code or to revise it
automatically?

Thanks for any upcoming advise.
--
GeraMar

Thomas
Tue Dec 06 15:45:02 CST 2005

URL ?

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"geramar" <geramar@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:53F7E2E7-BBCF-40C4-B00E-F34F6000E7C4@microsoft.com...
> One of the web pages on my site is too heavy and slow. I suspect that it is
> heavy with excessive code. Is there a way to clean the code or to revise it
> automatically?
>
> Thanks for any upcoming advise.
> --
> GeraMar

geramar
Thu Dec 08 11:30:04 CST 2005

Thank you Thomas. The url is http://democraciaparticipativa.net/headlines.htm.
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GeraMar


"Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:

> URL ?
>
> --
> ==============================================
> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
> ==============================================
> If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
> a Service Pack or security update, please contact
> Microsoft Product Support Services:
> http://support.microsoft.com
> If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
> security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
> ==============================================
>
> "geramar" <geramar@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:53F7E2E7-BBCF-40C4-B00E-F34F6000E7C4@microsoft.com...
> > One of the web pages on my site is too heavy and slow. I suspect that it is
> > heavy with excessive code. Is there a way to clean the code or to revise it
> > automatically?
> >
> > Thanks for any upcoming advise.
> > --
> > GeraMar
>
>
>

Thomas
Thu Dec 08 11:50:08 CST 2005

Split the page into multiple pages based on topic, with 1 or 2 main stories starting on the home
page and then continuing on another additional pages, and have links to all other stories from a
story index, etc.

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==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
==============================================

"geramar" <geramar@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EA2AB4F6-E7AE-4A89-BC1B-3DFC33F6ECE9@microsoft.com...
> Thank you Thomas. The url is http://democraciaparticipativa.net/headlines.htm.
> --
> GeraMar
>
>
> "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
>
>> URL ?
>>
>> --
>> ==============================================
>> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
>> ==============================================
>> If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
>> a Service Pack or security update, please contact
>> Microsoft Product Support Services:
>> http://support.microsoft.com
>> If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
>> security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
>> ==============================================
>>
>> "geramar" <geramar@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:53F7E2E7-BBCF-40C4-B00E-F34F6000E7C4@microsoft.com...
>> > One of the web pages on my site is too heavy and slow. I suspect that it is
>> > heavy with excessive code. Is there a way to clean the code or to revise it
>> > automatically?
>> >
>> > Thanks for any upcoming advise.
>> > --
>> > GeraMar
>>
>>
>>

Chris
Thu Dec 08 11:51:01 CST 2005

yah, it's way too heavy. here's a report for you:
http://www.websiteoptimization.com/services/analyze/wso.php?url=http://democraciaparticipativa.net/headlines.htm

I popped that report up using a really good browser add-in tool bar (that's
free):
http://www.visionaustralia.org.au/info.aspx?page=619

--
Chris Leeds,
Microsoft MVP-FrontPage

If you make web sites for other people, you should check out ContentSeed:
http://contentseed.com/
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"geramar" <geramar@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EA2AB4F6-E7AE-4A89-BC1B-3DFC33F6ECE9@microsoft.com...
> Thank you Thomas. The url is
> http://democraciaparticipativa.net/headlines.htm.
> --
> GeraMar
>
>
> "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
>
>> URL ?
>>
>> --
>> ==============================================
>> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
>> ==============================================
>> If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
>> a Service Pack or security update, please contact
>> Microsoft Product Support Services:
>> http://support.microsoft.com
>> If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
>> security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
>> ==============================================
>>
>> "geramar" <geramar@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:53F7E2E7-BBCF-40C4-B00E-F34F6000E7C4@microsoft.com...
>> > One of the web pages on my site is too heavy and slow. I suspect that
>> > it is
>> > heavy with excessive code. Is there a way to clean the code or to
>> > revise it
>> > automatically?
>> >
>> > Thanks for any upcoming advise.
>> > --
>> > GeraMar
>>
>>
>>

geramar
Thu Dec 08 12:21:02 CST 2005

In other words, what you suggest is to re-design the page. I'm working on it
but it will take me weeks to have it ready for publishing. I was wondering
if in the meantime there was a more technical solution within FrontPage to
simplify the code.
If not, well ... I'll try my best to work faster on the new design.

Thanks any way.
--
GeraMar


"Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:

> Split the page into multiple pages based on topic, with 1 or 2 main stories starting on the home
> page and then continuing on another additional pages, and have links to all other stories from a
> story index, etc.
>
> --
> ==============================================
> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
> ==============================================
> If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
> a Service Pack or security update, please contact
> Microsoft Product Support Services:
> http://support.microsoft.com
> If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
> security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
> ==============================================
>
> "geramar" <geramar@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:EA2AB4F6-E7AE-4A89-BC1B-3DFC33F6ECE9@microsoft.com...
> > Thank you Thomas. The url is http://democraciaparticipativa.net/headlines.htm.
> > --
> > GeraMar
> >
> >
> > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
> >
> >> URL ?
> >>
> >> --
> >> ==============================================
> >> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
> >> ==============================================
> >> If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
> >> a Service Pack or security update, please contact
> >> Microsoft Product Support Services:
> >> http://support.microsoft.com
> >> If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
> >> security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
> >> ==============================================
> >>
> >> "geramar" <geramar@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:53F7E2E7-BBCF-40C4-B00E-F34F6000E7C4@microsoft.com...
> >> > One of the web pages on my site is too heavy and slow. I suspect that it is
> >> > heavy with excessive code. Is there a way to clean the code or to revise it
> >> > automatically?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for any upcoming advise.
> >> > --
> >> > GeraMar
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

geramar
Thu Dec 08 12:24:02 CST 2005

Thanks for the links, Chris. I'll try them.
--
GeraMar


"Chris Leeds, MVP-FrontPage" wrote:

> yah, it's way too heavy. here's a report for you:
> http://www.websiteoptimization.com/services/analyze/wso.php?url=http://democraciaparticipativa.net/headlines.htm
>
> I popped that report up using a really good browser add-in tool bar (that's
> free):
> http://www.visionaustralia.org.au/info.aspx?page=619
>
> --
> Chris Leeds,
> Microsoft MVP-FrontPage
>
> If you make web sites for other people, you should check out ContentSeed:
> http://contentseed.com/
> --
> "geramar" <geramar@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:EA2AB4F6-E7AE-4A89-BC1B-3DFC33F6ECE9@microsoft.com...
> > Thank you Thomas. The url is
> > http://democraciaparticipativa.net/headlines.htm.
> > --
> > GeraMar
> >
> >
> > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
> >
> >> URL ?
> >>
> >> --
> >> ==============================================
> >> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
> >> ==============================================
> >> If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
> >> a Service Pack or security update, please contact
> >> Microsoft Product Support Services:
> >> http://support.microsoft.com
> >> If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
> >> security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
> >> ==============================================
> >>
> >> "geramar" <geramar@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:53F7E2E7-BBCF-40C4-B00E-F34F6000E7C4@microsoft.com...
> >> > One of the web pages on my site is too heavy and slow. I suspect that
> >> > it is
> >> > heavy with excessive code. Is there a way to clean the code or to
> >> > revise it
> >> > automatically?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for any upcoming advise.
> >> > --
> >> > GeraMar
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

Thomas
Fri Dec 09 07:06:35 CST 2005

I am not aware of any solution other then to split the content into multiple pages.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
==============================================

"geramar" <geramar@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:46DA741D-5EC1-47BD-B55B-6C351AEC3BF4@microsoft.com...
> In other words, what you suggest is to re-design the page. I'm working on it
> but it will take me weeks to have it ready for publishing. I was wondering
> if in the meantime there was a more technical solution within FrontPage to
> simplify the code.
> If not, well ... I'll try my best to work faster on the new design.
>
> Thanks any way.
> --
> GeraMar
>
>
> "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
>
>> Split the page into multiple pages based on topic, with 1 or 2 main stories starting on the home
>> page and then continuing on another additional pages, and have links to all other stories from a
>> story index, etc.
>>
>> --
>> ==============================================
>> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
>> ==============================================
>> If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
>> a Service Pack or security update, please contact
>> Microsoft Product Support Services:
>> http://support.microsoft.com
>> If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
>> security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
>> ==============================================
>>
>> "geramar" <geramar@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:EA2AB4F6-E7AE-4A89-BC1B-3DFC33F6ECE9@microsoft.com...
>> > Thank you Thomas. The url is http://democraciaparticipativa.net/headlines.htm.
>> > --
>> > GeraMar
>> >
>> >
>> > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
>> >
>> >> URL ?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> ==============================================
>> >> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
>> >> ==============================================
>> >> If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
>> >> a Service Pack or security update, please contact
>> >> Microsoft Product Support Services:
>> >> http://support.microsoft.com
>> >> If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
>> >> security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
>> >> ==============================================
>> >>
>> >> "geramar" <geramar@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:53F7E2E7-BBCF-40C4-B00E-F34F6000E7C4@microsoft.com...
>> >> > One of the web pages on my site is too heavy and slow. I suspect that it is
>> >> > heavy with excessive code. Is there a way to clean the code or to revise it
>> >> > automatically?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks for any upcoming advise.
>> >> > --
>> >> > GeraMar
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

p
Fri Dec 09 12:38:12 CST 2005

The suggestion by Thomas fro smaller pages is a good one.

I don't know of a tool that would automate changes. You would need to
manually change many pages. You may want to come out with a plan and
implement first for new pages and your main area pages. Then revise old
pages if needed slowly.

I notice that your pages use internal style for formatting, and font
tags for formatting, and javascript.

I would recommend that you
* use external stylesheets to control formatting for your site. It makes
simple to change the look of your pages with only one or a few files.
And the stylesheet is loaded by the browsers only once during visit to
subsequent pages (not with every page).

* Minimize the use of Font based formatting (FP relies on that when you
click Format) and switch to external style. Plus above benefits.

* Move common javascript code to an external javascript file.

* Remove using java based objects. JVM is no longer automatically
included with windows machines. Users must manually install it.

* There are more opportunities to simplify but I don't have time right now.

..PC


geramar wrote:
> One of the web pages on my site is too heavy and slow. I suspect that it is
> heavy with excessive code. Is there a way to clean the code or to revise it
> automatically?
>
> Thanks for any upcoming advise.

geramar
Fri Dec 09 12:47:02 CST 2005

Thank you, Thomas. I'll keep working on the new design.
--
GeraMar


"Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:

> I am not aware of any solution other then to split the content into multiple pages.
>
> --
> ==============================================
> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
> ==============================================
> If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
> a Service Pack or security update, please contact
> Microsoft Product Support Services:
> http://support.microsoft.com
> If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
> security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
> ==============================================
>
> "geramar" <geramar@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:46DA741D-5EC1-47BD-B55B-6C351AEC3BF4@microsoft.com...
> > In other words, what you suggest is to re-design the page. I'm working on it
> > but it will take me weeks to have it ready for publishing. I was wondering
> > if in the meantime there was a more technical solution within FrontPage to
> > simplify the code.
> > If not, well ... I'll try my best to work faster on the new design.
> >
> > Thanks any way.
> > --
> > GeraMar
> >
> >
> > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
> >
> >> Split the page into multiple pages based on topic, with 1 or 2 main stories starting on the home
> >> page and then continuing on another additional pages, and have links to all other stories from a
> >> story index, etc.
> >>
> >> --
> >> ==============================================
> >> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
> >> ==============================================
> >> If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
> >> a Service Pack or security update, please contact
> >> Microsoft Product Support Services:
> >> http://support.microsoft.com
> >> If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
> >> security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
> >> ==============================================
> >>
> >> "geramar" <geramar@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:EA2AB4F6-E7AE-4A89-BC1B-3DFC33F6ECE9@microsoft.com...
> >> > Thank you Thomas. The url is http://democraciaparticipativa.net/headlines.htm.
> >> > --
> >> > GeraMar
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> URL ?
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> ==============================================
> >> >> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
> >> >> ==============================================
> >> >> If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
> >> >> a Service Pack or security update, please contact
> >> >> Microsoft Product Support Services:
> >> >> http://support.microsoft.com
> >> >> If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
> >> >> security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
> >> >> ==============================================
> >> >>
> >> >> "geramar" <geramar@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:53F7E2E7-BBCF-40C4-B00E-F34F6000E7C4@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > One of the web pages on my site is too heavy and slow. I suspect that it is
> >> >> > heavy with excessive code. Is there a way to clean the code or to revise it
> >> >> > automatically?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks for any upcoming advise.
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > GeraMar
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

geramar
Wed Dec 14 14:22:02 CST 2005

Well!! Thank you for your time anyway. Your solutions are many and imply
that I should study further this program. I really apreciate them.
--
GeraMar


"p c" wrote:

> The suggestion by Thomas fro smaller pages is a good one.
>
> I don't know of a tool that would automate changes. You would need to
> manually change many pages. You may want to come out with a plan and
> implement first for new pages and your main area pages. Then revise old
> pages if needed slowly.
>
> I notice that your pages use internal style for formatting, and font
> tags for formatting, and javascript.
>
> I would recommend that you
> * use external stylesheets to control formatting for your site. It makes
> simple to change the look of your pages with only one or a few files.
> And the stylesheet is loaded by the browsers only once during visit to
> subsequent pages (not with every page).
>
> * Minimize the use of Font based formatting (FP relies on that when you
> click Format) and switch to external style. Plus above benefits.
>
> * Move common javascript code to an external javascript file.
>
> * Remove using java based objects. JVM is no longer automatically
> included with windows machines. Users must manually install it.
>
> * There are more opportunities to simplify but I don't have time right now.
>
> ...PC
>
>
> geramar wrote:
> > One of the web pages on my site is too heavy and slow. I suspect that it is
> > heavy with excessive code. Is there a way to clean the code or to revise it
> > automatically?
> >
> > Thanks for any upcoming advise.
>