Steve
Mon Jun 21 18:14:58 CDT 2004
OK, when you're working with your local web and try to test the form, you will get the northbots
error, because the local web isn't running on a server with extensions, unless you have IIS and
extensions installed on your machine and have either created the web in IIS or published it too IIS.
Northbots isn't anything you create, it's something that FrontPage does automatically.
When you publish to a properly configured "extended" server the form will work as advertised
You do need to recheck your "form properties" and look at the save results page and the address /
file name of your custom confirmation page. The confirmation page "file name" looked funny to me
when I used view source for the form, and I could not find it on your server.
--
Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
95isalive
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"JsGenesis40" <JsGenesis40@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2217D170-91A7-4730-AA57-F7FDC12EE691@microsoft.com...
> Hi Steve...
>
> Ok..went back and got it to create the _derived/nortbots on its own...goto publish it..and it
gives me the 550 permission denied on the norbots...any ideas there..i dont want to ftp it..like you
said...it wont work im sure...i just need to get the dang server to accept this...
>
> Othere then that..everything you told me worked so far ....thanks i could send you my 3 webs that
has the form and maybe you can try to publish it...
>
> anyways..thanks for the help
>
> "Steve Easton" wrote:
>
> > The form needs to be in a location inside your local web, meaning if you open FrontPage and then
> > click File > Open Web... when your local copy opens, everything that the web uses / needs will
be in
> > the list of files or inside one of the folders you see *inside* of FrontPage when you click View
>
> > Folders on the FrontPage toolbar.
> >
> > Yes, northbots is automatically created ( in a manner of speaking ) when you publish, however
you or
> > the user will never see it, as it is what is used to create the standard confirmation page "on
the
> > fly" when your form is submitted. ( unless you have created a custom confirmation page and
> > designated it in form properties )
> >
> > Also have the host make sure the _private folder has "server write permissions" applied as this
is
> > where the form saves the data that is entered. ( Unless you have specified another location in
the
> > web. At this point I would recommend against that. Get it working first. )
> >
> >
> > --
> > Steve Easton
> > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
> > 95isalive
> > This site is best viewed............
> > ........................with a computer
> >
> > "JsGenesis40" <JsGenesis40@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:79FC69EA-D507-44C3-BF39-FF2F4E66F844@microsoft.com...
> > > Hi Steve... I was in the middle of moving them back and republishing like you suggested. It
> > basically works...I have to fix a couple of minor things... The form doesnt work still. So..I
> > publish the form to a directory on my system. Then republish it to jbmtechnologies.com....i
tried
> > that earlier...said it didnt exist..but i will retry... what about the derived/norbots..does it
get
> > created when i fully publish my forms..and how would i transfer that...any great secrets
> > there....Man..do i owe you a case of beer.....
> > >
> > > Thanks alot
> > > John
> > >
> > > "Steve Easton" wrote:
> > >
> > > > A 550 error indicates a permissions error on the server.
> > > >
> > > > OK, your site is hosted on an Apache/UNIX server with FrontPage extensions:
> > > > Server: Apache/1.3.27 (Unix) PHP/4.2.2 FrontPage/5.0.2.2510 mod_ssl/2.8.11 OpenSSL/0.9.6b
> > > >
> > > > As verified by opening this page :
http://www.jbmtechnologies.com/_vti_inf.html
> > > >
> > > > However there is no homepage in the root of your web, because your URL opens your web in
folder
> > > > view.
> > > >
> > > > Your home page is located in a folder named JBM%20Home%20Page
> > > > because the following link opens your home page.
> > > >
http://www.jbmtechnologies.com/JBM%20Home%20Page/JBM%20Technologies%20Home.htm
> > > >
> > > > Also, home.htm needs to be renamed index.htm to function properly on an Apache/UNIX.
> > > > When published FrontPage will then rename it to index.html if needed by the server.
> > > >
> > > > You *must* move your home page to the root of your web.
> > > >
> > > > To use forms you *must* publish to
http://jbmtechnologies.com or
> >
http://www.jbmtechnologies.com
> > > > because when publishing using FTP, FrontPage does not publish all of the files necessary to
> > operate
> > > > your form.
> > > >
> > > > With your local web open you need to click File > Publish web... ( or site... if FP2003 )
and
> > then
> > > > enter either of the
http:// addresses or your forms will *never* work.
> > > >
> > > > Also, you need to remove spaces from file and folder names and replace them with underscores
_
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Steve Easton
> > > > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
> > > > 95isalive
> > > > This site is best viewed............
> > > > ........................with a computer
> > > >
> > > > "JsGenesis40" <JsGenesis40@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:825AC3FA-4A9A-4976-86D6-53F8072B1C39@microsoft.com...
> > > > > Hi Steve.. Thanks....and its ftp://(server IP) for me through FP..anyway...thanks so
much...i
> > must
> > > > ssound like an idiot...but im uploading..and i get a 550 norbot permission denied when i
publish
> > and
> > > > upload....just my luck huh....any ideas?...do i need to erase and start from scratch? thank
you
> > for
> > > > your assistance
> > > > >
> > > > > "Steve Easton" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I meant
http://www.jbmtechnologies.com or
http://jbmtechnologies.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Steve Easton
> > > > > > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
> > > > > > 95isalive
> > > > > > This site is best viewed............
> > > > > > ........................with a computer
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Steve Easton" <admin@95isalive.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:%23QZCjz8VEHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > The clue here is "FTP" you can *NOT* FTP a web to publish it if the web contains
> > components
> > > > that
> > > > > > > require the FrontPage extensions, and forms are one of those components.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You *must* publish using
http://www.jbmtechnologies.com or
http://www.jbmtechnologies.com
> > > > > > > as the "publish to" address.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Steve Easton
> > > > > > > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
> > > > > > > 95isalive
> > > > > > > This site is best viewed............
> > > > > > > .......................with a computer
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "JsGenesis40" <JsGenesis40@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:1E5AA78E-B8AD-4749-87B2-DD2E8A0DAE6C@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > > Hi ...need some advice...seems im not the only one with the _derived/norbots.htm
problem
> > > > with
> > > > > > form
> > > > > > > feedback...my web form problem is
http://www.jbmtechnologies.com/contact/contact
main.htm
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > my front page extension area is
http://www.jbmtechnologies.com/_vti_inf.html
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 'FPVersion' identifies the version of the FrontPage Server Extensions
> > > > > > > > installed, and should not be changed.
> > > > > > > > --><!-- FrontPage Configuration Information
> > > > > > > > FPVersion="5.0.2.2623"
> > > > > > > > FPShtmlScriptUrl="_vti_bin/shtml.exe/_vti_rpc"
> > > > > > > > FPAuthorScriptUrl="_vti_bin/_vti_aut/author.exe"
> > > > > > > > FPAdminScriptUrl="_vti_bin/_vti_adm/admin.exe"
> > > > > > > > TPScriptUrl="_vti_bin/owssvr.exe"
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The host is broadview net...I have been through the discussion boards, edited out
the
> > > > > > > _derived/norbot like microsoft suggested..then i get a "can not "POST" alarm..been one
of
> > them
> > > > > > > days...the one gentleman about front page changing it back after editing is
correct..it
> > does
> > > > > > change
> > > > > > > it back..i was able to edit a different way. Also, i tried putting the
_derived/nortbot in
> > the
> > > > > > > directory of my Contact directory as it seems not to want to go into the root.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Also, when i try to use FP to FTP..it says a web does not exist there..creat one? i
say
> > > > > > > ok...<again frustrated> and then it says it cant....lol....<just shaking my head>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Any help available...
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