Two Frontpage questions - images and backing up

1) When I copy a jpg from image software into a website in Frontpage,
the image degrades. I don't think this happens with .gifs, but why is
it happening and can it be prevented?

2) Whats the best way to SAVE an entire website to your hard drive?
I've tried exporting from Frontpage, File/Save from Explorer, and
File/Save as to my HD using Frontpage. But those only save specific
pages, and even then they don't save the linked images in those pages.

Do most people have and edit their websites on their hard drive and
then "publish" them to their hosts server? Or do they have their sites
ONLY on the hosts server?

Kevin
Fri May 21 11:44:35 CDT 2004

Hi Nymphetamine,

> 1) When I copy a jpg from image software into a website in Frontpage,
> the image degrades. I don't think this happens with .gifs, but why is
> it happening and can it be prevented?

FrontPage is compressing the image. To prevent this, import the image files
into your web, and then use them.

> 2) Whats the best way to SAVE an entire website to your hard drive?
> I've tried exporting from Frontpage, File/Save from Explorer, and
> File/Save as to my HD using Frontpage. But those only save specific
> pages, and even then they don't save the linked images in those pages.

Publish, do not Export. Open the hosted site in FrontPage and publish to
your local machine.

> Do most people have and edit their websites on their hard drive and
> then "publish" them to their hosts server? Or do they have their sites
> ONLY on the hosts server?

I don't know what most people do. However, it is logical to work on a local
copy, test it thoroughly, and then publish your changes, rather than making
them on the live site where anyone who browses the site during the changes
will see them.

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HTH,
Kevin Spencer
.Net Developer
Microsoft MVP
Big things are made up
of lots of little things.

"Nymphetamine" <nymphetamine@aol.com> wrote in message
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> 1) When I copy a jpg from image software into a website in Frontpage,
> the image degrades. I don't think this happens with .gifs, but why is
> it happening and can it be prevented?
>
> 2) Whats the best way to SAVE an entire website to your hard drive?
> I've tried exporting from Frontpage, File/Save from Explorer, and
> File/Save as to my HD using Frontpage. But those only save specific
> pages, and even then they don't save the linked images in those pages.
>
> Do most people have and edit their websites on their hard drive and
> then "publish" them to their hosts server? Or do they have their sites
> ONLY on the hosts server?

nymphetamine
Fri May 21 16:49:42 CDT 2004

"Kevin Spencer" <kspencer@takempis.com> wrote in message news:<OvRoYO1PEHA.2236@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>...
>
> FrontPage is compressing the image. To prevent this, import the image files
> into your web, and then use them.

That sounds a lot harder than what I do now - right click copy, right
click paste. Cant I stop Frontpage from compressing the image (and why
is it compressing jpgs which are already compressed)

How do I import images, into a specific page?
>
> Publish, do not Export. Open the hosted site in FrontPage and publish to
> your local machine.

I will try that, thanks

Thomas
Fri May 21 17:13:04 CDT 2004

See inline below.

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> "Kevin Spencer" <kspencer@takempis.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > FrontPage is compressing the image. To prevent this, import the image files
> > into your web, and then use them.
>
> That sounds a lot harder than what I do now - right click copy, right
> click paste. Cant I stop Frontpage from compressing the image (and why
> is it compressing jpgs which are already compressed)

To stop FP from touching your image, you have to import them into your web, then insert on to your
page. From your image application save to your desktop, then with the current FP web open in FP,
Import (drag-n-drop) them into your open web, then insert on your page.

>
> How do I import images, into a specific page?
> >
> > Publish, do not Export. Open the hosted site in FrontPage and publish to
> > your local machine.

You don't import image or any other content into your pages, you import the content into your web,
then you insert (link to) the item from your page.

>
> I will try that, thanks

nymphetamine
Sat May 22 08:26:36 CDT 2004

"Kevin Spencer" <kspencer@takempis.com> wrote in message news:<OvRoYO1PEHA.2236@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>...
>
> Publish, do not Export. Open the hosted site in FrontPage and publish to
> your local machine.

I tried that and it was a disaster. I had _vtf and _ct? folders all
over the place (not sure about the exact names, I deleted them
already). And all the files were copied multiple times in various
folders.

Peter
Sat May 22 08:37:16 CDT 2004

"Nymphetamine" <nymphetamine@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "Kevin Spencer" <kspencer@takempis.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > Publish, do not Export. Open the hosted site in FrontPage and publish to
> > your local machine.
>
> I tried that and it was a disaster. I had _vtf and _ct? folders all
> over the place (not sure about the exact names, I deleted them
> already). And all the files were copied multiple times in various
> folders.

I suggest that you stop trying to out-think the software. Yes, FP does
create a bunch of folders and seemingly duplicate files with no apparent
purpose, but they are there for a reason. For you to delete them just
because you don't understand what they are for is just asking for trouble.


--
Peter Aitken

Remove the crap from my email address before using.

NOVIAGRAPLEASEwebmaster
Sat May 22 09:11:22 CDT 2004

don't delete folders or files that FP creates, you're gonna hammer your =
FP extensions.


"Nymphetamine" <nymphetamine@aol.com> wrote in message =
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| "Kevin Spencer" <kspencer@takempis.com> wrote in message =
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| >=20
| > Publish, do not Export. Open the hosted site in FrontPage and =
publish to
| > your local machine.
|=20
| I tried that and it was a disaster. I had _vtf and _ct? folders all
| over the place (not sure about the exact names, I deleted them
| already). And all the files were copied multiple times in various
| folders.

nymphetamine
Sat May 22 12:49:52 CDT 2004

"Peter Aitken" <paitken@CRAPnc.rr.com> wrote in message news:<euisfHAQEHA.2704@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>...
>
> I suggest that you stop trying to out-think the software. Yes, FP does
> create a bunch of folders and seemingly duplicate files with no apparent
> purpose, but they are there for a reason. For you to delete them just
> because you don't understand what they are for is just asking for trouble.

What I was asking for is a back-up solution, getting the sites on my
machine.

Not folders within folders within folders each with the same 200 jpgs
in it, lol, as if that is a "solution".

Steve
Sat May 22 12:57:56 CDT 2004

For a FrontPage web to used as a backup it needs to be "Published" to a folder, which you can then
burn to CD, place in a zip file or whatever you want.
To restore it you will need to "Publish" it back to the location of your choice

Yes there will be _vti_cnf and _vti_inf files cnf = configuration inf = information.
The items you see in them are not duplicate files. They are the files FrontPage uses to maintain
it's "inventory" of your web site and how the files interact with each other. For one example, they
are how FrontPage knows what files are linked to / from what file and is how it knows what
hyperlinks to update when you rename a file or move it to another folder. Also they are what
maintain the "This page was last updated" info for pages in your web, and are what FrontPage uses
what to publish when you select "changed pages only" when you publish updates.

Bottom line: leave them alone.

Best rule of thumb to use: If you didn't create it or import it, leave it alone.
That is why those files are normally hidden unless FrontPage is told to display them


--
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Microsoft MVP FrontPage
95isalive
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> "Peter Aitken" <paitken@CRAPnc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:<euisfHAQEHA.2704@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>...
> >
> > I suggest that you stop trying to out-think the software. Yes, FP does
> > create a bunch of folders and seemingly duplicate files with no apparent
> > purpose, but they are there for a reason. For you to delete them just
> > because you don't understand what they are for is just asking for trouble.
>
> What I was asking for is a back-up solution, getting the sites on my
> machine.
>
> Not folders within folders within folders each with the same 200 jpgs
> in it, lol, as if that is a "solution".

Thomas
Sat May 22 13:09:54 CDT 2004

If you opened the _vti folders you would have notice that files do have the same name as your actual
files, but are only 1-2kb in sizes.

These files are files that FP creates and uses to track changes and modifications to your web
content, as well as your navigation structure, by deleting them, your backup is somewhat useless at
this point. If you ever has the need to restore your live site from this backup, you would have to
first re-build your entire navigation structure, and if used, reapply any themes, shared borders,
etc.

You really need to take the time to understand how individual applications work before deleting any
files that the application has created. Applications create files because the files are needed by
the application so that the application can do what it was designed to do. I don't know of any
application other than a Virus or Worm that just create files to fill up your hard drive.

--
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WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
http://www.ycoln-resources.com
FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================
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> "Peter Aitken" <paitken@CRAPnc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:<euisfHAQEHA.2704@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>...
> >
> > I suggest that you stop trying to out-think the software. Yes, FP does
> > create a bunch of folders and seemingly duplicate files with no apparent
> > purpose, but they are there for a reason. For you to delete them just
> > because you don't understand what they are for is just asking for trouble.
>
> What I was asking for is a back-up solution, getting the sites on my
> machine.
>
> Not folders within folders within folders each with the same 200 jpgs
> in it, lol, as if that is a "solution".

nymphetamine
Sat May 22 19:09:32 CDT 2004

"Thomas A. Rowe" <tarowe@mvps.org> wrote in message news:<uJ3S6fCQEHA.2468@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>...
>
> You really need to take the time to understand how individual applications work before deleting any
> files that the application has created. Applications create files because the files are needed by
> the application so that the application can do what it was designed to do. I don't know of any
> application other than a Virus or Worm that just create files to fill up your hard drive.

Unless the application crashed or messed up, which my Frontpage has
done too often, and which I thought it did again because my computer
froze during the publishing and it took at least 5 minutes.

Well I guess I will have to trust my webhosts, because it seems
backing up a bunch of sites with a bunch of pages each will turn my
harddrive into a cluttered mess. Or an even worse cluttered mess.

Thomas
Sat May 22 20:40:33 CDT 2004

That is still not a reason to delete the files that where part of the specific web site. When is the
last time you cleared the Windows Temp folder, the FP Temp Folder, empty the Recycle Bin, ran
scandisk and defrag?

I have a copy of every web sites that I have worked on or created for clients since 1997 on my local
system. The totals (including any hidden FP folders/files) are:

2.21 GB
173,398 files
16,231 folders

I am sure that you single web is no way as large as the number of webs I have, so space really
shouldn't be an issue, especially with the low price of HDs.
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FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
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> "Thomas A. Rowe" <tarowe@mvps.org> wrote in message
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> >
> > You really need to take the time to understand how individual applications work before deleting
any
> > files that the application has created. Applications create files because the files are needed
by
> > the application so that the application can do what it was designed to do. I don't know of any
> > application other than a Virus or Worm that just create files to fill up your hard drive.
>
> Unless the application crashed or messed up, which my Frontpage has
> done too often, and which I thought it did again because my computer
> froze during the publishing and it took at least 5 minutes.
>
> Well I guess I will have to trust my webhosts, because it seems
> backing up a bunch of sites with a bunch of pages each will turn my
> harddrive into a cluttered mess. Or an even worse cluttered mess.

nymphetamine
Sun May 23 09:02:42 CDT 2004

"Thomas A. Rowe" <tarowe@mvps.org> wrote in message news:<uuyDvbGQEHA.3524@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>...
> That is still not a reason to delete the files that where part of the specific web site. When is the
> last time you cleared the Windows Temp folder, the FP Temp Folder, empty the Recycle Bin, ran
> scandisk and defrag?
>
> I have a copy of every web sites that I have worked on or created for clients since 1997 on my local
> system. The totals (including any hidden FP folders/files) are:


I am STILL finding the vtf folders scattered ALL OVER my drive. And
that is just from publishing one site with one page!

Yes I checked the dates. FP Publish is a joke of an option.

Stefan
Sun May 23 09:16:11 CDT 2004

They will only be in the Web folder you published to
(as in the folder C:\MyWeb or My Documents\My Webs\My Site)

If you didn't publish to a folder but instead published to your root drive (C:\) or your My Documents or Desktop folders then they
will be All over you hard drive and you need to let us know (or you may lose critical files on your PC)

Where Specifically did you publish to from the online web?

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"Nymphetamine" <nymphetamine@aol.com> wrote in message news:1e71a87c.0405230602.5c3d399@posting.google.com...
| "Thomas A. Rowe" <tarowe@mvps.org> wrote in message news:<uuyDvbGQEHA.3524@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>...
| > That is still not a reason to delete the files that where part of the specific web site. When is the
| > last time you cleared the Windows Temp folder, the FP Temp Folder, empty the Recycle Bin, ran
| > scandisk and defrag?
| >
| > I have a copy of every web sites that I have worked on or created for clients since 1997 on my local
| > system. The totals (including any hidden FP folders/files) are:
|
|
| I am STILL finding the vtf folders scattered ALL OVER my drive. And
| that is just from publishing one site with one page!
|
| Yes I checked the dates. FP Publish is a joke of an option.

nymphetamine
Sun May 23 15:46:08 CDT 2004

"Stefan B Rusynko" <sbr_enjoy@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<#xTLBCNQEHA.3524@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>...
>
> Where Specifically did you publish to from the online web?

C:\My Documents\My Webs\My Site

I just searched C:\My Documents\My Webs and found...176..._vti files
scattered in the subfolders all dated 5-21-04 (and deleted all of
them)

NOVIAGRAPLEASEwebmaster
Sun May 23 15:59:08 CDT 2004

You mean _vti folders right? - not files.

Still curious as to why you would want to delete files that FP creates =
to handle your website.



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| "Stefan B Rusynko" <sbr_enjoy@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
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| >=20
| > Where Specifically did you publish to from the online web?
|=20
| C:\My Documents\My Webs\My Site
|=20
| I just searched C:\My Documents\My Webs and found...176..._vti files
| scattered in the subfolders all dated 5-21-04 (and deleted all of
| them)

Steve
Sun May 23 16:44:39 CDT 2004

If you deleted all of those vti folders, you will be unable to update and manage your local web.


Did you not read my response concerning the vti_inf and vti_cnf files ??



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95isalive
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> "Stefan B Rusynko" <sbr_enjoy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<#xTLBCNQEHA.3524@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>...
> >
> > Where Specifically did you publish to from the online web?
>
> C:\My Documents\My Webs\My Site
>
> I just searched C:\My Documents\My Webs and found...176..._vti files
> scattered in the subfolders all dated 5-21-04 (and deleted all of
> them)

Steve
Sun May 23 16:48:39 CDT 2004 Deleted

NOVIAGRAPLEASEwebmaster
Sun May 23 19:48:40 CDT 2004 Deleted

NOVIAGRAPLEASEwebmaster
Sun May 23 19:50:35 CDT 2004 Deleted

nymphetamine
Sun May 23 21:17:12 CDT 2004

"Steve Easton" <admin@95isalive.com> wrote in message news:<ugOpb#QQEHA.1728@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>...
> If you deleted all of those vti folders, you will be unable to update and manage your local web.
>
> Did you not read my response concerning the vti_inf and vti_cnf files ??

I dont *have* a local web. I wanted a backup and followed your
directions to publish onto my local machine, which took nearly 10
minutes and froze my comp, and the result was 150 scattered vti
folders.

Thomas
Sun May 23 21:31:40 CDT 2004

By publish via FP back to your local computer, you create a "Local Web".

Anyway, hope you never need to publish this "Local" copy online in a emergency.

Good luck!

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"Nymphetamine" <nymphetamine@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "Steve Easton" <admin@95isalive.com> wrote in message
news:<ugOpb#QQEHA.1728@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>...
> > If you deleted all of those vti folders, you will be unable to update and manage your local web.
> >
> > Did you not read my response concerning the vti_inf and vti_cnf files ??
>
> I dont *have* a local web. I wanted a backup and followed your
> directions to publish onto my local machine, which took nearly 10
> minutes and froze my comp, and the result was 150 scattered vti
> folders.

NOVIAGRAPLEASEwebmaster
Sun May 23 22:24:43 CDT 2004

Nymphetamine,

Actually you didn't follow the instructions, here's what you did:

Your post: "2) Whats the best way to SAVE an entire website to your =
hard drive?
I've tried *exporting* from Frontpage, File/Save from Explorer, and
File/Save as to my HD using Frontpage. But those only save specific
pages, and even then they don't save the linked images in those page"

You tried to EXPORT first, which may have caused havoc with your local =
files. Then you deleted _vti folders.=20

Your best bet now is to delete your LOCAL web and try to PUBLISH the =
online server back to your local web. Hopefully, they online web is =
still in one piece.=20

Frontpage will do most of the thinking for you if you let it do it's =
job. Don't do File/Saves from Explorer either

R.



"Nymphetamine" <nymphetamine@aol.com> wrote in message =
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| "Steve Easton" <admin@95isalive.com> wrote in message =
news:<ugOpb#QQEHA.1728@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>...
| > If you deleted all of those vti folders, you will be unable to =
update and manage your local web.
| >
| > Did you not read my response concerning the vti_inf and vti_cnf =
files ??
|=20
| I dont *have* a local web. I wanted a backup and followed your
| directions to publish onto my local machine, which took nearly 10
| minutes and froze my comp, and the result was 150 scattered vti
| folders.

Peter
Mon May 24 07:44:40 CDT 2004

"Nymphetamine" <nymphetamine@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "Stefan B Rusynko" <sbr_enjoy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<#xTLBCNQEHA.3524@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>...
> >
> > Where Specifically did you publish to from the online web?
>
> C:\My Documents\My Webs\My Site
>
> I just searched C:\My Documents\My Webs and found...176..._vti files
> scattered in the subfolders all dated 5-21-04 (and deleted all of
> them)

Listen carefully. THOSE FILES ARE THERE FOR A REASON!!!!!! Why are you
deleting them? This is surely why your FP is crashing.


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Remove the crap from my email address before using.

Kevin
Mon May 24 11:54:24 CDT 2004

God forbid you should look in your Windows\System32 directory. It's REALLY
cluttered!

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Kevin Spencer
.Net Developer
Microsoft MVP
Big things are made up
of lots of little things.

"Nymphetamine" <nymphetamine@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "Thomas A. Rowe" <tarowe@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:<uuyDvbGQEHA.3524@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>...
> > That is still not a reason to delete the files that where part of the
specific web site. When is the
> > last time you cleared the Windows Temp folder, the FP Temp Folder, empty
the Recycle Bin, ran
> > scandisk and defrag?
> >
> > I have a copy of every web sites that I have worked on or created for
clients since 1997 on my local
> > system. The totals (including any hidden FP folders/files) are:
>
>
> I am STILL finding the vtf folders scattered ALL OVER my drive. And
> that is just from publishing one site with one page!
>
> Yes I checked the dates. FP Publish is a joke of an option.

NOVIAGRAPLEASEwebmaster
Mon May 24 13:52:00 CDT 2004

if you want to drive an retentive noobie insane tell them to look in the =
cookie jar.


"Kevin Spencer" <kspencer@takempis.com> wrote in message =
news:%23w%23J8BbQEHA.3660@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| God forbid you should look in your Windows\System32 directory. It's =
REALLY
| cluttered!
|=20
| --=20
| HTH,
| Kevin Spencer
| .Net Developer
| Microsoft MVP
| Big things are made up
| of lots of little things.
|=20
| "Nymphetamine" <nymphetamine@aol.com> wrote in message
| news:1e71a87c.0405230602.5c3d399@posting.google.com...
| > "Thomas A. Rowe" <tarowe@mvps.org> wrote in message
| news:<uuyDvbGQEHA.3524@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>...
| > > That is still not a reason to delete the files that where part of =
the
| specific web site. When is the
| > > last time you cleared the Windows Temp folder, the FP Temp Folder, =
empty
| the Recycle Bin, ran
| > > scandisk and defrag?
| > >
| > > I have a copy of every web sites that I have worked on or created =
for
| clients since 1997 on my local
| > > system. The totals (including any hidden FP folders/files) are:
| >
| >
| > I am STILL finding the vtf folders scattered ALL OVER my drive. And
| > that is just from publishing one site with one page!
| >
| > Yes I checked the dates. FP Publish is a joke of an option.
|=20
|

Steve
Mon May 24 14:18:07 CDT 2004

Just checked my "Program Files"
4591 folders, 33,027 files in 80 directories using 2.05gb
Think I should "clean it up"??

;-)

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"Kevin Spencer" <kspencer@takempis.com> wrote in message
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> God forbid you should look in your Windows\System32 directory. It's REALLY
> cluttered!
>
> --
> HTH,
> Kevin Spencer
> .Net Developer
> Microsoft MVP
> Big things are made up
> of lots of little things.
>
> "Nymphetamine" <nymphetamine@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1e71a87c.0405230602.5c3d399@posting.google.com...
> > "Thomas A. Rowe" <tarowe@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:<uuyDvbGQEHA.3524@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>...
> > > That is still not a reason to delete the files that where part of the
> specific web site. When is the
> > > last time you cleared the Windows Temp folder, the FP Temp Folder, empty
> the Recycle Bin, ran
> > > scandisk and defrag?
> > >
> > > I have a copy of every web sites that I have worked on or created for
> clients since 1997 on my local
> > > system. The totals (including any hidden FP folders/files) are:
> >
> >
> > I am STILL finding the vtf folders scattered ALL OVER my drive. And
> > that is just from publishing one site with one page!
> >
> > Yes I checked the dates. FP Publish is a joke of an option.
>
>

Brian
Mon May 24 15:32:45 CDT 2004

oh yeah. Fill a bathtub full of water and throw in one's computer while
it's still plugged in.. That will wash it good, all right. Never have
to worry about those pesky files again.

B/

Steve Easton wrote:
>
> Just checked my "Program Files"
> 4591 folders, 33,027 files in 80 directories using 2.05gb
> Think I should "clean it up"??
>
> ;-)
>
> --
> Steve Easton
> Microsoft MVP FrontPage
> 95isalive
> This site is best viewed............
> .......................with a computer
>
> "Kevin Spencer" <kspencer@takempis.com> wrote in message
> news:#w#J8BbQEHA.3660@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > God forbid you should look in your Windows\System32 directory. It's REALLY
> > cluttered!
> >
> > --
> > HTH,
> > Kevin Spencer
> > .Net Developer
> > Microsoft MVP
> > Big things are made up
> > of lots of little things.
> >
> > "Nymphetamine" <nymphetamine@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:1e71a87c.0405230602.5c3d399@posting.google.com...
> > > "Thomas A. Rowe" <tarowe@mvps.org> wrote in message
> > news:<uuyDvbGQEHA.3524@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>...
> > > > That is still not a reason to delete the files that where part of the
> > specific web site. When is the
> > > > last time you cleared the Windows Temp folder, the FP Temp Folder, empty
> > the Recycle Bin, ran
> > > > scandisk and defrag?
> > > >
> > > > I have a copy of every web sites that I have worked on or created for
> > clients since 1997 on my local
> > > > system. The totals (including any hidden FP folders/files) are:
> > >
> > >
> > > I am STILL finding the vtf folders scattered ALL OVER my drive. And
> > > that is just from publishing one site with one page!
> > >
> > > Yes I checked the dates. FP Publish is a joke of an option.
> >
> >

NOVIAGRAPLEASEwebmaster
Mon May 24 16:54:26 CDT 2004

yeah and get rid of all those stoopid .dll files while your at it, you =
could rename them from .dll to .duh see what happens.




"Steve Easton" <admin@95isalive.com> wrote in message =
news:%231NwNRcQEHA.2216@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| Just checked my "Program Files"
| 4591 folders, 33,027 files in 80 directories using 2.05gb
| Think I should "clean it up"??
|=20
| ;-)
|=20
| --
| Steve Easton
| Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| 95isalive
| This site is best viewed............
| .......................with a computer
|=20
| "Kevin Spencer" <kspencer@takempis.com> wrote in message
| news:#w#J8BbQEHA.3660@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| > God forbid you should look in your Windows\System32 directory. It's =
REALLY
| > cluttered!
| >
| > --
| > HTH,
| > Kevin Spencer
| > .Net Developer
| > Microsoft MVP
| > Big things are made up
| > of lots of little things.
| >
| > "Nymphetamine" <nymphetamine@aol.com> wrote in message
| > news:1e71a87c.0405230602.5c3d399@posting.google.com...
| > > "Thomas A. Rowe" <tarowe@mvps.org> wrote in message
| > news:<uuyDvbGQEHA.3524@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>...
| > > > That is still not a reason to delete the files that where part =
of the
| > specific web site. When is the
| > > > last time you cleared the Windows Temp folder, the FP Temp =
Folder, empty
| > the Recycle Bin, ran
| > > > scandisk and defrag?
| > > >
| > > > I have a copy of every web sites that I have worked on or =
created for
| > clients since 1997 on my local
| > > > system. The totals (including any hidden FP folders/files) are:
| > >
| > >
| > > I am STILL finding the vtf folders scattered ALL OVER my drive. =
And
| > > that is just from publishing one site with one page!
| > >
| > > Yes I checked the dates. FP Publish is a joke of an option.
| >
| >
|=20
|

nymphetamine
Mon May 24 17:18:34 CDT 2004

"Peter Aitken" <paitken@CRAPnc.rr.com> wrote in message news:<Oe7rjzYQEHA.2468@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>...
>
> Listen carefully. THOSE FILES ARE THERE FOR A REASON!!!!!! Why are you
> deleting them? This is surely why your FP is crashing.

If you are saying 162 folders were created and saved to locations I
did NOT specify, when I tried to save one website with one page, I say
that solution sucks.

It was the first time I tried to Publish something to that folder, I
did try the "export" option, but that was an entirely different
folder, it was months ago, and everything had been deleted.

FP works fine when I open a web from the host, edit in FP, and then
save to the host.