According to the FAQ, Frontpage can be viewed on any browser. But my website
(www.restlessme.com) has some text overlapping problems when viewed on some
browsers such as Mozilla. Why is that and is there an easy solution to this?

Re: Frontpage Problems on Mozilla by Ronx

Ronx
Tue Oct 25 02:18:52 CDT 2005

Dump the ShapeArt/WordArt/Text boxes. These do not display correctly in any
browser other than Internet Explorer running on Windows. Other browsers
render a poor quality .gif image or nothing at all.
Also, have you tried looking at your page in IE, and adjusting the font
size? Your use of absolutely positioned divs for page layout needs
revision.

Was this page originally produced in Publisher? It looks like the typical
Publisher product - everything absolutely positioned, invalid styles, with
no flexibility for different browsers or browser sizes.

The image of the temple wighs in at 360Kb - this is at least 10 times the
size it should be. Use an image editor to reduce the physical dimensions -
or at least use FrontPage auto-thumbnail feature to create a thumbnail at
the dimensions you are displaying at. The display quality will improve
significantly, and the page will load much faster.
--
Ron Symonds
Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

"dmath" <dmath@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4A15F8EE-0A74-4D37-A662-0DFB3F45AEBF@microsoft.com...
> According to the FAQ, Frontpage can be viewed on any browser. But my
website
> (www.restlessme.com) has some text overlapping problems when viewed on
some
> browsers such as Mozilla. Why is that and is there an easy solution to
this?



Re: Frontpage Problems on Mozilla by Rob

Rob
Tue Oct 25 11:05:07 CDT 2005

Hey Ron...what creates all those layers? I think I gave up at 35...is that
from Pub...or what?


"Ronx" <ronx917@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OH%23rbRT2FHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
| Dump the ShapeArt/WordArt/Text boxes. These do not display correctly in
any
| browser other than Internet Explorer running on Windows. Other browsers
| render a poor quality .gif image or nothing at all.
| Also, have you tried looking at your page in IE, and adjusting the font
| size? Your use of absolutely positioned divs for page layout needs
| revision.
|
| Was this page originally produced in Publisher? It looks like the typical
| Publisher product - everything absolutely positioned, invalid styles, with
| no flexibility for different browsers or browser sizes.
|
| The image of the temple wighs in at 360Kb - this is at least 10 times the
| size it should be. Use an image editor to reduce the physical
imensions -
| or at least use FrontPage auto-thumbnail feature to create a thumbnail at
| the dimensions you are displaying at. The display quality will improve
| significantly, and the page will load much faster.
| --
| Ron Symonds
| Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
| Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
|
| "dmath" <dmath@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| news:4A15F8EE-0A74-4D37-A662-0DFB3F45AEBF@microsoft.com...
| > According to the FAQ, Frontpage can be viewed on any browser. But my
| website
| > (www.restlessme.com) has some text overlapping problems when viewed on
| some
| > browsers such as Mozilla. Why is that and is there an easy solution to
| this?
|
|



Re: Frontpage Problems on Mozilla by Ronx

Ronx
Tue Oct 25 12:48:48 CDT 2005

This might be a clue:

<span id="PubSt19F0" style="publisherstylename: PubSt19;

But there is nothing wrong with having lots of <divs> in a page - I have a
page (not yet published) with 28 <divs>, but mine are not absolutely
positioned.. Properly done, <divs> may be better than tables for layout,
especially since they can scale down to PDA screens more easily.
--
Ron Symonds
Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

"Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in message
news:eEIGd3X2FHA.400@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Hey Ron...what creates all those layers? I think I gave up at 35...is that
> from Pub...or what?
>
>
> "Ronx" <ronx917@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OH%23rbRT2FHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> | Dump the ShapeArt/WordArt/Text boxes. These do not display correctly in
> any
> | browser other than Internet Explorer running on Windows. Other browsers
> | render a poor quality .gif image or nothing at all.
> | Also, have you tried looking at your page in IE, and adjusting the font
> | size? Your use of absolutely positioned divs for page layout needs
> | revision.
> |
> | Was this page originally produced in Publisher? It looks like the
typical
> | Publisher product - everything absolutely positioned, invalid styles,
with
> | no flexibility for different browsers or browser sizes.
> |
> | The image of the temple wighs in at 360Kb - this is at least 10 times
the
> | size it should be. Use an image editor to reduce the physical
> imensions -
> | or at least use FrontPage auto-thumbnail feature to create a thumbnail
at
> | the dimensions you are displaying at. The display quality will improve
> | significantly, and the page will load much faster.
> | --
> | Ron Symonds
> | Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
> | Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
> |
> | "dmath" <dmath@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | news:4A15F8EE-0A74-4D37-A662-0DFB3F45AEBF@microsoft.com...
> | > According to the FAQ, Frontpage can be viewed on any browser. But my
> | website
> | > (www.restlessme.com) has some text overlapping problems when viewed on
> | some
> | > browsers such as Mozilla. Why is that and is there an easy solution to
> | this?
> |
> |
>
>



Re: Frontpage Problems on Mozilla by dmath

dmath
Tue Oct 25 14:18:07 CDT 2005

Problem is I think I need the boxes to layout my pages, as I don't know html
(that's why I got frontpage). Is it possible to still design with frames and
have the page be flexible enough to appear fine on all browsers? Is there
something simple in the code I can look for and alter (I say simple as I know
squat about html).

"Ronx" wrote:

> Dump the ShapeArt/WordArt/Text boxes. These do not display correctly in any
> browser other than Internet Explorer running on Windows. Other browsers
> render a poor quality .gif image or nothing at all.
> Also, have you tried looking at your page in IE, and adjusting the font
> size? Your use of absolutely positioned divs for page layout needs
> revision.
>
> Was this page originally produced in Publisher? It looks like the typical
> Publisher product - everything absolutely positioned, invalid styles, with
> no flexibility for different browsers or browser sizes.
>
> The image of the temple wighs in at 360Kb - this is at least 10 times the
> size it should be. Use an image editor to reduce the physical dimensions -
> or at least use FrontPage auto-thumbnail feature to create a thumbnail at
> the dimensions you are displaying at. The display quality will improve
> significantly, and the page will load much faster.
> --
> Ron Symonds
> Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
> Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
>
> "dmath" <dmath@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:4A15F8EE-0A74-4D37-A662-0DFB3F45AEBF@microsoft.com...
> > According to the FAQ, Frontpage can be viewed on any browser. But my
> website
> > (www.restlessme.com) has some text overlapping problems when viewed on
> some
> > browsers such as Mozilla. Why is that and is there an easy solution to
> this?
>
>
>

Re: Frontpage Problems on Mozilla by p

p
Tue Oct 25 20:39:48 CDT 2005

For page layout positioning, look into tables. Positioning with CSS can
yield diffrent results in different browsers.

google for "HTML positioning with tables" w/o quotes.

And you may want to learn some basic HTML coding. Although FP is a great
tool and time saver, FP's way of doing thing is not always the best way.
At mimnimum you should be able to change the code created FP when you
need to.


..PC

dmath wrote:

> Problem is I think I need the boxes to layout my pages, as I don't know html
> (that's why I got frontpage). Is it possible to still design with frames and
> have the page be flexible enough to appear fine on all browsers? Is there
> something simple in the code I can look for and alter (I say simple as I know
> squat about html).
>

Re: Frontpage Problems on Mozilla by dmath

dmath
Tue Oct 25 21:24:04 CDT 2005

I've sort of figured out what you're saying about the <divs> (remember, with
me this is web design for dummies). But how do I make it not absolute. Take
something like this:

<div style="position: absolute; width: 163px; height: 118px; z-index: 5;
left: 263px; top: 100px; padding-left: 5px" id="layer8">

What would I replace "absolute" with?

Thanks for your help.

"Ronx" wrote:

> This might be a clue:
>
> <span id="PubSt19F0" style="publisherstylename: PubSt19;
>
> But there is nothing wrong with having lots of <divs> in a page - I have a
> page (not yet published) with 28 <divs>, but mine are not absolutely
> positioned.. Properly done, <divs> may be better than tables for layout,
> especially since they can scale down to PDA screens more easily.
> --
> Ron Symonds
> Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
> Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
>
> "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in message
> news:eEIGd3X2FHA.400@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > Hey Ron...what creates all those layers? I think I gave up at 35...is that
> > from Pub...or what?
> >
> >
> > "Ronx" <ronx917@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:OH%23rbRT2FHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > | Dump the ShapeArt/WordArt/Text boxes. These do not display correctly in
> > any
> > | browser other than Internet Explorer running on Windows. Other browsers
> > | render a poor quality .gif image or nothing at all.
> > | Also, have you tried looking at your page in IE, and adjusting the font
> > | size? Your use of absolutely positioned divs for page layout needs
> > | revision.
> > |
> > | Was this page originally produced in Publisher? It looks like the
> typical
> > | Publisher product - everything absolutely positioned, invalid styles,
> with
> > | no flexibility for different browsers or browser sizes.
> > |
> > | The image of the temple wighs in at 360Kb - this is at least 10 times
> the
> > | size it should be. Use an image editor to reduce the physical
> > imensions -
> > | or at least use FrontPage auto-thumbnail feature to create a thumbnail
> at
> > | the dimensions you are displaying at. The display quality will improve
> > | significantly, and the page will load much faster.
> > | --
> > | Ron Symonds
> > | Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
> > | Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
> > |
> > | "dmath" <dmath@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > | news:4A15F8EE-0A74-4D37-A662-0DFB3F45AEBF@microsoft.com...
> > | > According to the FAQ, Frontpage can be viewed on any browser. But my
> > | website
> > | > (www.restlessme.com) has some text overlapping problems when viewed on
> > | some
> > | > browsers such as Mozilla. Why is that and is there an easy solution to
> > | this?
> > |
> > |
> >
> >
>
>
>

Re: Frontpage Problems on Mozilla by Ronx

Ronx
Wed Oct 26 01:54:11 CDT 2005

I would not replace anything piecemeal. I would start again in FrontPage,
using a table based layout.
Draw you page on a sheet of paper, and draw a grid to separate the elements
and objects in the page. Each <div> as you now have becomes a table cell.
This will be a very complex table, but there are ways to simplify it
considerably, using HTML and CSS.

I have started you off at
www.rxs-enterprises.org/tests/pages/restless_news.htm, but converting a
publisher document to something that works in all browsers, and browser
sizes, is definitely not an easy task. It really is easier to start from
scratch. And you will need to know some HTML and CSS to replicate your
Publisher design.
--
Ron Symonds
Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

"dmath" <dmath@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7CE410EB-960C-4BD0-AA3D-6307576C6E4D@microsoft.com...
> I've sort of figured out what you're saying about the <divs> (remember,
with
> me this is web design for dummies). But how do I make it not absolute.
Take
> something like this:
>
> <div style="position: absolute; width: 163px; height: 118px; z-index: 5;
> left: 263px; top: 100px; padding-left: 5px" id="layer8">
>
> What would I replace "absolute" with?
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> "Ronx" wrote:
>
> > This might be a clue:
> >
> > <span id="PubSt19F0" style="publisherstylename: PubSt19;
> >
> > But there is nothing wrong with having lots of <divs> in a page - I have
a
> > page (not yet published) with 28 <divs>, but mine are not absolutely
> > positioned.. Properly done, <divs> may be better than tables for
layout,
> > especially since they can scale down to PDA screens more easily.
> > --
> > Ron Symonds
> > Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
> > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
> >
> > "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <webmaster@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in
message
> > news:eEIGd3X2FHA.400@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > Hey Ron...what creates all those layers? I think I gave up at 35...is
that
> > > from Pub...or what?
> > >
> > >
> > > "Ronx" <ronx917@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:OH%23rbRT2FHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > | Dump the ShapeArt/WordArt/Text boxes. These do not display
correctly in
> > > any
> > > | browser other than Internet Explorer running on Windows. Other
browsers
> > > | render a poor quality .gif image or nothing at all.
> > > | Also, have you tried looking at your page in IE, and adjusting the
font
> > > | size? Your use of absolutely positioned divs for page layout needs
> > > | revision.
> > > |
> > > | Was this page originally produced in Publisher? It looks like the
> > typical
> > > | Publisher product - everything absolutely positioned, invalid
styles,
> > with
> > > | no flexibility for different browsers or browser sizes.
> > > |
> > > | The image of the temple wighs in at 360Kb - this is at least 10
times
> > the
> > > | size it should be. Use an image editor to reduce the physical
> > > imensions -
> > > | or at least use FrontPage auto-thumbnail feature to create a
thumbnail
> > at
> > > | the dimensions you are displaying at. The display quality will
improve
> > > | significantly, and the page will load much faster.
> > > | --
> > > | Ron Symonds
> > > | Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
> > > | Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
> > > |
> > > | "dmath" <dmath@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > | news:4A15F8EE-0A74-4D37-A662-0DFB3F45AEBF@microsoft.com...
> > > | > According to the FAQ, Frontpage can be viewed on any browser. But
my
> > > | website
> > > | > (www.restlessme.com) has some text overlapping problems when
viewed on
> > > | some
> > > | > browsers such as Mozilla. Why is that and is there an easy
solution to
> > > | this?
> > > |
> > > |
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >