Frontpage Master Site opening vs. Subsite

Hi,

Have a strange situation. We have 4 developers that are all working on
parts of a web site (say... www.mydomain.com). If I open a site under
that site that is in another folder (say we have a department folder
under that site) that sites subfolder opens in mine ok. So if I open
the site under the department folder called IT, then my path is
\\www.mydomain.com\department\IT. Thats what show up in my Website
local web site path.

I get the IT site with all the navigation info fine & intact.

If another person opens the IT site after I'm out (not checking out any
of the pages), that person selects the IT site but opens up at the
\\www.mydomain.com main site instead of the IT site, even though they
opened it at the subsite level. Their Website local web site path shows
the main site (not the department\IT part). The folders on the left can
be navigated to the IT folder, but it doesn't maintain the other
information like it would if the site itself was opened.

I hope I'm making sense with this. Because that person can't get the IT
site level, their is no navigation information showing. The links for
the navigation don't show up, so when they publish the page for IT, it
loses that.

We have 2 people that it works correctly for and 2 that it doesn't.
We've upgrade all machines to the SP3 for Office 2003, so they match.

Any Ideas?

Thanks,
Rich.

Thomas
Fri Mar 07 10:35:26 CST 2008

Try having everyone open the root web first in FP, then double click to open the subweb / subsite
"Department" then double click to open "IT" subweb / subsite.

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Thomas A. Rowe
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
http://www.Ecom-Data.com
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"Rich" <rich.cooke@csea813.org> wrote in message news:O4GcN3GgIHA.6092@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
>
> Have a strange situation. We have 4 developers that are all working on parts of a web site
> (say... www.mydomain.com). If I open a site under that site that is in another folder (say we
> have a department folder under that site) that sites subfolder opens in mine ok. So if I open the
> site under the department folder called IT, then my path is \\www.mydomain.com\department\IT.
> Thats what show up in my Website local web site path.
>
> I get the IT site with all the navigation info fine & intact.
>
> If another person opens the IT site after I'm out (not checking out any of the pages), that person
> selects the IT site but opens up at the \\www.mydomain.com main site instead of the IT site, even
> though they opened it at the subsite level. Their Website local web site path shows the main site
> (not the department\IT part). The folders on the left can be navigated to the IT folder, but it
> doesn't maintain the other information like it would if the site itself was opened.
>
> I hope I'm making sense with this. Because that person can't get the IT site level, their is no
> navigation information showing. The links for the navigation don't show up, so when they publish
> the page for IT, it loses that.
>
> We have 2 people that it works correctly for and 2 that it doesn't. We've upgrade all machines to
> the SP3 for Office 2003, so they match.
>
> Any Ideas?
>
> Thanks,
> Rich.

Rich
Fri Mar 07 11:07:31 CST 2008

The root web doesn't have any navigation associated with it. The
Departments are accessed through a drop down menu from the root web
page. Each of the Departments have their own Navigation setup tree.
But I can open the department (i.e. IT) directly as a site. This
maintains the Navigation information tree. Two others, even trying to
open the departments as a site - same IT site, defaults back to the root
web site (in otherwords, they can't open the departmental sites).
Because of this, FrontPage doesn't recognize the IT site as an
individual site on their PC's, therefore the Navigation information
isn't there.

Hope that clarifies it a little.

Thanks.

Thomas A. Rowe wrote:
> Try having everyone open the root web first in FP, then double click to open the subweb / subsite
> "Department" then double click to open "IT" subweb / subsite.
>

Rich
Fri Mar 07 11:25:01 CST 2008

Maybe the easiest way to explain the problem is getting the Local
Website to change to the correct site. Our local site is on a server
that is accessible to our developers. It always opens to the root web
site on 2 PC's, but to the correct site (departmental sites) on the other 2.

Is there a setting for the Local website behavior, or another way to
change that besides using the Open Site command?

Thanks.


Rich wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Have a strange situation. We have 4 developers that are all working on
> parts of a web site (say... www.mydomain.com). If I open a site under
> that site that is in another folder (say we have a department folder
> under that site) that sites subfolder opens in mine ok. So if I open
> the site under the department folder called IT, then my path is
> \\www.mydomain.com\department\IT. Thats what show up in my Website
> local web site path.
>
> I get the IT site with all the navigation info fine & intact.
>
> If another person opens the IT site after I'm out (not checking out any
> of the pages), that person selects the IT site but opens up at the
> \\www.mydomain.com main site instead of the IT site, even though they
> opened it at the subsite level. Their Website local web site path shows
> the main site (not the department\IT part). The folders on the left can
> be navigated to the IT folder, but it doesn't maintain the other
> information like it would if the site itself was opened.
>
> I hope I'm making sense with this. Because that person can't get the IT
> site level, their is no navigation information showing. The links for
> the navigation don't show up, so when they publish the page for IT, it
> loses that.
>
> We have 2 people that it works correctly for and 2 that it doesn't.
> We've upgrade all machines to the SP3 for Office 2003, so they match.
>
> Any Ideas?
>
> Thanks,
> Rich.

Rich
Fri Mar 07 11:48:11 CST 2008

I discovered the issue. If the option for "Open the last Web site
automatically when FrontPage starts" is checked, and you happen to open
the root web site and close FrontPage, there is no way to get back to
the subsites without unchecking that option. With that option
Unchecked, it works like it is supposed to. With the option checked, it
keeps the root site stuck on open, even if you close the site and try to
open another one.

I believe this is a bug because you should be able to open any site
after closing the active one.

At least I figured it out. Thanks for opportunity to post. Is there a
way to send this along to the MS development team for a hotfix?

Thanks,
Rich.

Rich wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Have a strange situation. We have 4 developers that are all working on
> parts of a web site (say... www.mydomain.com). If I open a site under
> that site that is in another folder (say we have a department folder
> under that site) that sites subfolder opens in mine ok. So if I open
> the site under the department folder called IT, then my path is
> \\www.mydomain.com\department\IT. Thats what show up in my Website
> local web site path.
>
> I get the IT site with all the navigation info fine & intact.
>
> If another person opens the IT site after I'm out (not checking out any
> of the pages), that person selects the IT site but opens up at the
> \\www.mydomain.com main site instead of the IT site, even though they
> opened it at the subsite level. Their Website local web site path shows
> the main site (not the department\IT part). The folders on the left can
> be navigated to the IT folder, but it doesn't maintain the other
> information like it would if the site itself was opened.
>
> I hope I'm making sense with this. Because that person can't get the IT
> site level, their is no navigation information showing. The links for
> the navigation don't show up, so when they publish the page for IT, it
> loses that.
>
> We have 2 people that it works correctly for and 2 that it doesn't.
> We've upgrade all machines to the SP3 for Office 2003, so they match.
>
> Any Ideas?
>
> Thanks,
> Rich.

Thomas
Fri Mar 07 12:34:36 CST 2008

My suggestion has nothing to do with navigation, as when the root web is open you should see the
subwebs / subsite listed, which you would then double click to open, etc.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
http://www.Ecom-Data.com
==============================================


"Rich" <rich.cooke@csea813.org> wrote in message news:OO0ZUYHgIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> The root web doesn't have any navigation associated with it. The Departments are accessed through
> a drop down menu from the root web page. Each of the Departments have their own Navigation setup
> tree. But I can open the department (i.e. IT) directly as a site. This maintains the Navigation
> information tree. Two others, even trying to open the departments as a site - same IT site,
> defaults back to the root web site (in otherwords, they can't open the departmental sites).
> Because of this, FrontPage doesn't recognize the IT site as an individual site on their PC's,
> therefore the Navigation information isn't there.
>
> Hope that clarifies it a little.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Thomas A. Rowe wrote:
>> Try having everyone open the root web first in FP, then double click to open the subweb / subsite
>> "Department" then double click to open "IT" subweb / subsite.
>>