RE: FrontPage XP web project; losing bots/theme in publishing to w by NickKontis
NickKontis
Mon Oct 04 15:47:01 CDT 2004
To Rick & all other interested parties....
I have been using HTTP Publish method from FrontPage all along, but after
reading the last post I did some exhaustive perusing with FTP on the site and
inspection of local shares, and discovering a mixture of missing and present
hidden folders. I then did some experimenting with FrontPage projects to test
my hypothesis that there was a difference in the behavior of publish
commands. I believe I found a trend [trap?] that explains these phonomena and
will help myself and others to avoid problems. What I discovered is that in
using the right-click publish command, regardless of what is selected in the
folder list frame, borders and nav DO NOT get transferred. I verified this
locally and on the live test website. I have been using a mix of methods in
'hurrying' my work to my test site.
The absolute foolproof method is to tag the highest order object in the
folder list frame and use File...Publish Web from the FrontPage menu. Truth
be told, Microsoft's FP Help is not very explicit in this area....thanks to
troubles we all experience and dialog such as this will ultimately influence
the quality of product help, right? Conversely, help on when and where the
right-click publish command is useful would complete the circle and the
software would be perfect...right?
Thanks!!!
"Rick Budde" wrote:
> Nick:
>
> Do you have folders on both your disk based site and
> server based site that are called "_themes"
> and "_overlay"? These folders and some other folders that
> start with an underline are files that are created by
> Front Page as a part of a Front Page web site. They
> contain files which provide to theme and navigation
> buttons.
>
> When you publish from Front Page using the
> preferred "http" method (see Help) these files are copied
> from the disk based web to the server based web. If you
> are using an FTP approach to publishing, you need to be
> sure that these files are part of the publishing process.
>
> If you want to "transfer content", you are MUCH better
> off using the Front Page publish feature. You should not
> perform any file actions outside of Front Page using
> Windows Explorer or whatever. You will likely screw up
> your site if you do.
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Rick-
> >The intention was not to have the subweb inherit or
> share theme or nav...I
> >created a new theme and the site had it's own nav
> schema...all of which were
> >lost when publishing up to the website, and then again
> lost after applying
> >theme and nav live on the website and publishing back to
> my local drive, but
> >the theme seemed to stay intact (?).
> >
> >I think I followed your explanation of the blank site
> influencing
> >publishing. I tried publishing the working site from the
> web server to the
> >local disk by using Browse, creating a new folder, and
> then accepting
> >FrontPage creating a web in the new folder and
> transferring the content. The
> >result is still the same....no nav schemas but the theme
> transferred OK.
> >
> >I am still mystefied and need a solution as I will be
> doing this often.
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >
> >"Rick Budde" wrote:
> >
> >> Subwebs do NOT share the theme of the parent web. You
> >> need to apply a theme to your subweb on your disk
> based
> >> web and then republish to your server based web.
> >>
> >> When you applied the theme on the live site and then
> >> republished from your disk based site (which had no
> >> theme), you published a "blank" (my term) theme to
> your
> >> server based web which resulted in no theme.
> >>
> >> I hope this makes sense and helps you out.
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >Help!!
> >> >I have created a web locally using FrontPage XP
> (Office
> >> XP SP3). The site
> >> >works locally except for forms that require FrontPage
> >> Extensions on a web
> >> >server. When I upload the site to the web server
> >> (running FP Extensions 2002)
> >> >the navigation borders and nav controls are
> >> missing....the theme also was
> >> >lost. This site is a 'test' site which will replace
> an
> >> existing site at the
> >> >root of the website. The root site was created using
> the
> >> same steps as below
> >> >but it worked AOK throughout. The only difference was
> I
> >> was at SP1 for Office
> >> >XP...I installed SP3 to see if the problem would
> >> clear...
> >> >
> >> >Steps taken to create test site...
> >> >1-Created new web project on local disk and test
> >> content, theme, and
> >> >navigation. (Not created as a sub-web of the original
> >> root web site but in a
> >> >new web project folder.)
> >> >2-created a sub web below the root site using FP
> admin
> >> on server
> >> >3-published local site to server by right clicking
> >> highest order folder
> >> >object in FrontPage client folder list and selecting
> the
> >> sub-web created by
> >> >FP admin
> >> >4-tested site for content, nav and theme....no
> borders,
> >> nav, theme. The web
> >> >components on the form work fine...creates the file
> in
> >> _private.
> >> >5-Since I needed to demo the site for others to
> review,
> >> I re-created the
> >> >nav , borders & theme live on the sub-web and tested
> >> again ...AOK. I then
> >> >published the test site back to a new empty web
> project
> >> folder locally and
> >> >experienced the same result...no borders, nav or
> theme.
> >> >6-Installed Office XP SP3...re-did steps...same
> results
> >> >
> >> >Thanks!
> >> >.
> >> >
> >>
> >.
> >
>