First, it used to be frames were a no-no as many of the old browsers did not
support them. What is the current feeling about frames these days?

Now, I have a graphic artist that created a graphics package for a
non-profit I work with and it seems the only way to make it work is to
create a frame within a frame. Their company logo is anchored at the top
left with blank space along the left underneath it and address info along
the top. The links for the site are along the bottom and right with a text
box on the middle of all of this. Because of the way the links have been
created, it seems like frames are the only way to keep the links anchored in
the correct position and allow the text in the middle cell to scroll down.

First, is it possible to create a frame within a frame? Are there any
potential issues with doing this? I setup a test page that has 4 frames
(top, bottom, left and right) with another frame in the middle, but that
seems like overkill.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!!

Re: Frames Within a Frame - Frames Good or Bad by All

All
Sat May 28 00:15:01 CDT 2005


"Karl Burrows" <karlspam@spam.yourbeacon.com> wrote in message
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> First, it used to be frames were a no-no as many of the old browsers did
> not
> support them. What is the current feeling about frames these days?
>
> Now, I have a graphic artist that created a graphics package for a
> non-profit I work with and it seems the only way to make it work is to
> create a frame within a frame. Their company logo is anchored at the top
> left with blank space along the left underneath it and address info along
> the top. The links for the site are along the bottom and right with a
> text
> box on the middle of all of this. Because of the way the links have been
> created, it seems like frames are the only way to keep the links anchored
> in
> the correct position and allow the text in the middle cell to scroll down.
>
> First, is it possible to create a frame within a frame? Are there any
> potential issues with doing this? I setup a test page that has 4 frames
> (top, bottom, left and right) with another frame in the middle, but that
> seems like overkill.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!!

As a person who views web pages I would have to say I dislike them. If you
don't care about the person who visits your site, frames could be an option.

>
>



Re: Frames Within a Frame - Frames Good or Bad by Karl

Karl
Sat May 28 00:27:33 CDT 2005

Well, it appears I am limited as to options, so just trying to decide the
best way to approach this.

"All Patriots" <NoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
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"Karl Burrows" <karlspam@spam.yourbeacon.com> wrote in message
news:uHF6k$zYFHA.2884@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> First, it used to be frames were a no-no as many of the old browsers did
> not
> support them. What is the current feeling about frames these days?
>
> Now, I have a graphic artist that created a graphics package for a
> non-profit I work with and it seems the only way to make it work is to
> create a frame within a frame. Their company logo is anchored at the top
> left with blank space along the left underneath it and address info along
> the top. The links for the site are along the bottom and right with a
> text
> box on the middle of all of this. Because of the way the links have been
> created, it seems like frames are the only way to keep the links anchored
> in
> the correct position and allow the text in the middle cell to scroll down.
>
> First, is it possible to create a frame within a frame? Are there any
> potential issues with doing this? I setup a test page that has 4 frames
> (top, bottom, left and right) with another frame in the middle, but that
> seems like overkill.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!!

As a person who views web pages I would have to say I dislike them. If you
don't care about the person who visits your site, frames could be an option.

>
>




Re: Frames Within a Frame - Frames Good or Bad by Murray

Murray
Sat May 28 08:22:18 CDT 2005

The reason for using or not using frames should be based on a) your site's
needs, and b) your willingness to accept the potential problems that frames
can create for you as developer and maintainer of the site and for your
visitors as casual users of the site.

I am down on frames because I believe that they create many more problems
than they solve.
Judging from the posts here, and the kinds of problems that are described,
the kind of person most likely to elect to use frames is also the kind of
person most likely ill-prepared fo solve the ensuing problems when they
arise. If you feel a) that you understand the problems and b) that you are
prepared to handle them when they occur, and c) that you have a need to use
frames, then by all means use them.

As far as I know, the most comprehensive discussions of frames and their
potential problems can be found on these two links -

http://apptools.com/rants/framesevil.php
http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/frames/


--
Murray
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"Karl Burrows" <karlspam@spam.yourbeacon.com> wrote in message
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> Well, it appears I am limited as to options, so just trying to decide the
> best way to approach this.
>
> "All Patriots" <NoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:o7Tle.649$HP1.206@fe08.lga...
>
> "Karl Burrows" <karlspam@spam.yourbeacon.com> wrote in message
> news:uHF6k$zYFHA.2884@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> First, it used to be frames were a no-no as many of the old browsers did
>> not
>> support them. What is the current feeling about frames these days?
>>
>> Now, I have a graphic artist that created a graphics package for a
>> non-profit I work with and it seems the only way to make it work is to
>> create a frame within a frame. Their company logo is anchored at the top
>> left with blank space along the left underneath it and address info along
>> the top. The links for the site are along the bottom and right with a
>> text
>> box on the middle of all of this. Because of the way the links have been
>> created, it seems like frames are the only way to keep the links anchored
>> in
>> the correct position and allow the text in the middle cell to scroll
>> down.
>>
>> First, is it possible to create a frame within a frame? Are there any
>> potential issues with doing this? I setup a test page that has 4 frames
>> (top, bottom, left and right) with another frame in the middle, but that
>> seems like overkill.
>>
>> Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!!
>
> As a person who views web pages I would have to say I dislike them. If
> you
> don't care about the person who visits your site, frames could be an
> option.
>
>>
>>
>
>
>