FP 2000 and Corrupted Files

Hi,

I just installed 4 new asp/html programs on my FrontPage 2000 site. The
company that makes them insisted that they need to be FTPed, rather than
imported through FP, so FP wouldn't "change the code". I do use FTP at
times, and it doesn't cause any problems, so I did it. Everything was OK,
and I was trying to get the correct permissions set on the folders. I hadn't
opened anything in FP or Notepad (default for ASP pages), only in my
browser.

Suddenly, one of the four (interconnected) programs had broken images, some
pages pointing to a messed-up url (so did the images), and one of the pages
lost it's formatting (it's tables, it seems).

I reinstalled the program, and eventually reinstalled them all. The other 3
were ok, until suddenly the very same things started happening on another of
the programs.

*After* it happened, I recalculated the hyperlinks. No change. I reinstalled
the programs. No change. I recalculated again. Nothing.

The company that makes the programs are trying to blame it on FrontPage, and
it's re-writing of code. They have gone in, and say that the urls in html
template pages have been changed. That could explain the bad urls, but not
the lost formatting. Plus, I know FP can change code under certain
conditions, but I've never heard of it changing a url!

I am having my ISP check the FP extensions, although everything else seems
to be working fine.

I have another new little asp program. You enter your email address, choose
an option button, and press submit. You go to a page that redirects you,
based on which option you chose. What is happening is that you go to the
redirect page, and stay there, and it is blank. You shouldn't see the
redirect page, except maybe for a quick second.

Could the 2 problems be inter-related? Does anyone have any ideas if this
could all be being caused by FrontPage?

Thanks for any light you can shed,

JA

JA
Tue Oct 05 11:08:05 CDT 2004

The 4 new programs have had full read/write permissions set on their
folders. My ISP thinks maybe that conflicts with the FP extensions?



"JA" <jarmour@kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Ytz8d.58611$B51.45639@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Hi,
>
> I just installed 4 new asp/html programs on my FrontPage 2000 site. The
> company that makes them insisted that they need to be FTPed, rather than
> imported through FP, so FP wouldn't "change the code". I do use FTP at
> times, and it doesn't cause any problems, so I did it. Everything was OK,
> and I was trying to get the correct permissions set on the folders. I
hadn't
> opened anything in FP or Notepad (default for ASP pages), only in my
> browser.
>
> Suddenly, one of the four (interconnected) programs had broken images,
some
> pages pointing to a messed-up url (so did the images), and one of the
pages
> lost it's formatting (it's tables, it seems).
>
> I reinstalled the program, and eventually reinstalled them all. The other
3
> were ok, until suddenly the very same things started happening on another
of
> the programs.
>
> *After* it happened, I recalculated the hyperlinks. No change. I
reinstalled
> the programs. No change. I recalculated again. Nothing.
>
> The company that makes the programs are trying to blame it on FrontPage,
and
> it's re-writing of code. They have gone in, and say that the urls in html
> template pages have been changed. That could explain the bad urls, but not
> the lost formatting. Plus, I know FP can change code under certain
> conditions, but I've never heard of it changing a url!
>
> I am having my ISP check the FP extensions, although everything else seems
> to be working fine.
>
> I have another new little asp program. You enter your email address,
choose
> an option button, and press submit. You go to a page that redirects you,
> based on which option you chose. What is happening is that you go to the
> redirect page, and stay there, and it is blank. You shouldn't see the
> redirect page, except maybe for a quick second.
>
> Could the 2 problems be inter-related? Does anyone have any ideas if this
> could all be being caused by FrontPage?
>
> Thanks for any light you can shed,
>
> JA
>
>

JA
Tue Oct 05 15:11:08 CDT 2004

The problem is solved, at least temporarily.

The urls on html template files were changed. I imported them through FP,
and now it is working. At least for now.

One thing I noticed was that in their coding they use a lot of tildes ~,
especially to denote a part of a url. I wonder if this screws FP up somehow?


"JA" <jarmour@kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:FFz8d.58612$B51.49849@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> The 4 new programs have had full read/write permissions set on their
> folders. My ISP thinks maybe that conflicts with the FP extensions?
>
>
>
> "JA" <jarmour@kc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:Ytz8d.58611$B51.45639@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I just installed 4 new asp/html programs on my FrontPage 2000 site. The
> > company that makes them insisted that they need to be FTPed, rather than
> > imported through FP, so FP wouldn't "change the code". I do use FTP at
> > times, and it doesn't cause any problems, so I did it. Everything was
OK,
> > and I was trying to get the correct permissions set on the folders. I
> hadn't
> > opened anything in FP or Notepad (default for ASP pages), only in my
> > browser.
> >
> > Suddenly, one of the four (interconnected) programs had broken images,
> some
> > pages pointing to a messed-up url (so did the images), and one of the
> pages
> > lost it's formatting (it's tables, it seems).
> >
> > I reinstalled the program, and eventually reinstalled them all. The
other
> 3
> > were ok, until suddenly the very same things started happening on
another
> of
> > the programs.
> >
> > *After* it happened, I recalculated the hyperlinks. No change. I
> reinstalled
> > the programs. No change. I recalculated again. Nothing.
> >
> > The company that makes the programs are trying to blame it on FrontPage,
> and
> > it's re-writing of code. They have gone in, and say that the urls in
html
> > template pages have been changed. That could explain the bad urls, but
not
> > the lost formatting. Plus, I know FP can change code under certain
> > conditions, but I've never heard of it changing a url!
> >
> > I am having my ISP check the FP extensions, although everything else
seems
> > to be working fine.
> >
> > I have another new little asp program. You enter your email address,
> choose
> > an option button, and press submit. You go to a page that redirects you,
> > based on which option you chose. What is happening is that you go to the
> > redirect page, and stay there, and it is blank. You shouldn't see the
> > redirect page, except maybe for a quick second.
> >
> > Could the 2 problems be inter-related? Does anyone have any ideas if
this
> > could all be being caused by FrontPage?
> >
> > Thanks for any light you can shed,
> >
> > JA
> >
> >
>
>

Stefan
Wed Oct 06 03:41:06 CDT 2004

The tildes should not cause errors -
If you need to FTP anything or create unique permissions for the files in a folder, convert the folder to a subweb in FP first, and
then do not open it in FP
--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
_____________________________________________


"JA" <jarmour@kc.rr.com> wrote in message news:wdD8d.58623$B51.46573@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
| The problem is solved, at least temporarily.
|
| The urls on html template files were changed. I imported them through FP,
| and now it is working. At least for now.
|
| One thing I noticed was that in their coding they use a lot of tildes ~,
| especially to denote a part of a url. I wonder if this screws FP up somehow?
|
|
| "JA" <jarmour@kc.rr.com> wrote in message
| news:FFz8d.58612$B51.49849@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
| > The 4 new programs have had full read/write permissions set on their
| > folders. My ISP thinks maybe that conflicts with the FP extensions?
| >
| >
| >
| > "JA" <jarmour@kc.rr.com> wrote in message
| > news:Ytz8d.58611$B51.45639@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
| > > Hi,
| > >
| > > I just installed 4 new asp/html programs on my FrontPage 2000 site. The
| > > company that makes them insisted that they need to be FTPed, rather than
| > > imported through FP, so FP wouldn't "change the code". I do use FTP at
| > > times, and it doesn't cause any problems, so I did it. Everything was
| OK,
| > > and I was trying to get the correct permissions set on the folders. I
| > hadn't
| > > opened anything in FP or Notepad (default for ASP pages), only in my
| > > browser.
| > >
| > > Suddenly, one of the four (interconnected) programs had broken images,
| > some
| > > pages pointing to a messed-up url (so did the images), and one of the
| > pages
| > > lost it's formatting (it's tables, it seems).
| > >
| > > I reinstalled the program, and eventually reinstalled them all. The
| other
| > 3
| > > were ok, until suddenly the very same things started happening on
| another
| > of
| > > the programs.
| > >
| > > *After* it happened, I recalculated the hyperlinks. No change. I
| > reinstalled
| > > the programs. No change. I recalculated again. Nothing.
| > >
| > > The company that makes the programs are trying to blame it on FrontPage,
| > and
| > > it's re-writing of code. They have gone in, and say that the urls in
| html
| > > template pages have been changed. That could explain the bad urls, but
| not
| > > the lost formatting. Plus, I know FP can change code under certain
| > > conditions, but I've never heard of it changing a url!
| > >
| > > I am having my ISP check the FP extensions, although everything else
| seems
| > > to be working fine.
| > >
| > > I have another new little asp program. You enter your email address,
| > choose
| > > an option button, and press submit. You go to a page that redirects you,
| > > based on which option you chose. What is happening is that you go to the
| > > redirect page, and stay there, and it is blank. You shouldn't see the
| > > redirect page, except maybe for a quick second.
| > >
| > > Could the 2 problems be inter-related? Does anyone have any ideas if
| this
| > > could all be being caused by FrontPage?
| > >
| > > Thanks for any light you can shed,
| > >
| > > JA
| > >
| > >
| >
| >
|
|

JA
Sat Oct 09 00:12:01 CDT 2004

This is crazy, but we tracked the errors down to one folder - it has html
template files. I imported them thru Frontpage (I had FTPed them before).
Problem solved!



"Stefan B Rusynko" <sbr_enjoy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23OU%235A4qEHA.376@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> The tildes should not cause errors -
> If you need to FTP anything or create unique permissions for the files in
a folder, convert the folder to a subweb in FP first, and
> then do not open it in FP
> --
>
> _____________________________________________
> SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
> "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
> To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
> http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
> _____________________________________________
>
>
> "JA" <jarmour@kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:wdD8d.58623$B51.46573@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> | The problem is solved, at least temporarily.
> |
> | The urls on html template files were changed. I imported them through
FP,
> | and now it is working. At least for now.
> |
> | One thing I noticed was that in their coding they use a lot of tildes ~,
> | especially to denote a part of a url. I wonder if this screws FP up
somehow?
> |
> |
> | "JA" <jarmour@kc.rr.com> wrote in message
> | news:FFz8d.58612$B51.49849@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> | > The 4 new programs have had full read/write permissions set on their
> | > folders. My ISP thinks maybe that conflicts with the FP extensions?
> | >
> | >
> | >
> | > "JA" <jarmour@kc.rr.com> wrote in message
> | > news:Ytz8d.58611$B51.45639@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> | > > Hi,
> | > >
> | > > I just installed 4 new asp/html programs on my FrontPage 2000 site.
The
> | > > company that makes them insisted that they need to be FTPed, rather
than
> | > > imported through FP, so FP wouldn't "change the code". I do use FTP
at
> | > > times, and it doesn't cause any problems, so I did it. Everything
was
> | OK,
> | > > and I was trying to get the correct permissions set on the folders.
I
> | > hadn't
> | > > opened anything in FP or Notepad (default for ASP pages), only in my
> | > > browser.
> | > >
> | > > Suddenly, one of the four (interconnected) programs had broken
images,
> | > some
> | > > pages pointing to a messed-up url (so did the images), and one of
the
> | > pages
> | > > lost it's formatting (it's tables, it seems).
> | > >
> | > > I reinstalled the program, and eventually reinstalled them all. The
> | other
> | > 3
> | > > were ok, until suddenly the very same things started happening on
> | another
> | > of
> | > > the programs.
> | > >
> | > > *After* it happened, I recalculated the hyperlinks. No change. I
> | > reinstalled
> | > > the programs. No change. I recalculated again. Nothing.
> | > >
> | > > The company that makes the programs are trying to blame it on
FrontPage,
> | > and
> | > > it's re-writing of code. They have gone in, and say that the urls in
> | html
> | > > template pages have been changed. That could explain the bad urls,
but
> | not
> | > > the lost formatting. Plus, I know FP can change code under certain
> | > > conditions, but I've never heard of it changing a url!
> | > >
> | > > I am having my ISP check the FP extensions, although everything else
> | seems
> | > > to be working fine.
> | > >
> | > > I have another new little asp program. You enter your email address,
> | > choose
> | > > an option button, and press submit. You go to a page that redirects
you,
> | > > based on which option you chose. What is happening is that you go to
the
> | > > redirect page, and stay there, and it is blank. You shouldn't see
the
> | > > redirect page, except maybe for a quick second.
> | > >
> | > > Could the 2 problems be inter-related? Does anyone have any ideas if
> | this
> | > > could all be being caused by FrontPage?
> | > >
> | > > Thanks for any light you can shed,
> | > >
> | > > JA
> | > >
> | > >
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>