Tip Alert BEFORE a page is called up

I use FP2K
==========
Say I want to hyperlink to a very busy page, such as refdesk.com, and I want
to remind the user to use ctrl+f to find what s/he wants, is there a way to
call up a quick tip such as this before the page comes up

I can do this with JavaScript if I generate the page, but NOT if I hyperlink
"out"

Thank you

Stefan
Sat Nov 01 08:08:32 CST 2003

Add a JavaScript onclick event to call the alert from your hyperlink
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"-z" <Hitharneighbor@ihatespam.com> wrote in message news:u3loU0HoDHA.2808@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| I use FP2K
| ==========
| Say I want to hyperlink to a very busy page, such as refdesk.com, and I want
| to remind the user to use ctrl+f to find what s/he wants, is there a way to
| call up a quick tip such as this before the page comes up
|
| I can do this with JavaScript if I generate the page, but NOT if I hyperlink
| "out"
|
| Thank you
|
|

clintonG
Sat Nov 01 13:18:58 CST 2003

I have a better idea -- I think -- since you are familiar with
JavaScript I won't have to talk to you like you were a four
year old ;-)

Two approaches: Pre-Annouce or Post-Announce, the latter of
which (Post-Announce) may be best as only you really understand
the context of your application.

Yes, I underastand you said you want to annouce 'before' the
target page is loaded.

Post-Announce is better as it lends itself to a process that is
more dynamic than relying on a hard-coded contextual
click event applied to an anchor. After all, once the click event
fires the application is committed and you may still want or need
to do contextual processing in the target page anyway.

Adopting a User Assistance mindset then. The most useful
event for Pre-Announce functionality is the onMouseOver
event which occurs in the source page We see this all the time
with tool tips and so on.

Using Post-Announce you leave the source page alone, the user
clicks-through and your target page uses the onLoad event to call
a function to dynamically process what you need.

This latter approach allows the target page to be entered via any source
page, is much more dynamic, and helps keep source pages free of
clutter.

Now, if what you were saying when stating 'not when I hyperlink out'
happened to mean you do not know how to use JavaScript to process
the click a
click event you are well advised to use the JavaScript FAQ.

SEE: http://developer.irt.org/

Lastly, be advised of overLIB
SEE: http://www.bosrup.com/web/overlib/

--
<%= Clinton Gallagher
A/E/C Consulting, Web Design, e-Commerce Software Development
Wauwatosa, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin USA
NET csgallagher@REMOVETHISTEXTmetromilwaukee.com
URL http://www.metromilwaukee.com/clintongallagher/

"Stefan B Rusynko" <sbr_enjoy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:#RuSmGIoDHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Add a JavaScript onclick event to call the alert from your hyperlink
> --
>
> _____________________________________________
> SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
> "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
> To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
> http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
> _____________________________________________
>
>
> "-z" <Hitharneighbor@ihatespam.com> wrote in message
news:u3loU0HoDHA.2808@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> | I use FP2K
> | ==========
> | Say I want to hyperlink to a very busy page, such as refdesk.com, and I
want
> | to remind the user to use ctrl+f to find what s/he wants, is there a way
to
> | call up a quick tip such as this before the page comes up
> |
> | I can do this with JavaScript if I generate the page, but NOT if I
hyperlink
> | "out"
> |
> | Thank you
> |
> |
>
>

Steve
Sat Nov 01 13:46:31 CST 2003

The problem here is ( If I read his post correctly )
that he doesn't "own" the target page, so Post Announce
isn't an option.

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This site is best viewed............
.......................with a computer

"clintonG" <csgallagher@REMOVETHISTEXT@metromilwaukee.com> wrote in message
news:um71B0KoDHA.2232@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> I have a better idea -- I think -- since you are familiar with
> JavaScript I won't have to talk to you like you were a four
> year old ;-)
>
> Two approaches: Pre-Annouce or Post-Announce, the latter of
> which (Post-Announce) may be best as only you really understand
> the context of your application.
>
> Yes, I underastand you said you want to annouce 'before' the
> target page is loaded.
>
> Post-Announce is better as it lends itself to a process that is
> more dynamic than relying on a hard-coded contextual
> click event applied to an anchor. After all, once the click event
> fires the application is committed and you may still want or need
> to do contextual processing in the target page anyway.
>
> Adopting a User Assistance mindset then. The most useful
> event for Pre-Announce functionality is the onMouseOver
> event which occurs in the source page We see this all the time
> with tool tips and so on.
>
> Using Post-Announce you leave the source page alone, the user
> clicks-through and your target page uses the onLoad event to call
> a function to dynamically process what you need.
>
> This latter approach allows the target page to be entered via any source
> page, is much more dynamic, and helps keep source pages free of
> clutter.
>
> Now, if what you were saying when stating 'not when I hyperlink out'
> happened to mean you do not know how to use JavaScript to process
> the click a
> click event you are well advised to use the JavaScript FAQ.
>
> SEE: http://developer.irt.org/
>
> Lastly, be advised of overLIB
> SEE: http://www.bosrup.com/web/overlib/
>
> --
> <%= Clinton Gallagher
> A/E/C Consulting, Web Design, e-Commerce Software Development
> Wauwatosa, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin USA
> NET csgallagher@REMOVETHISTEXTmetromilwaukee.com
> URL http://www.metromilwaukee.com/clintongallagher/
>
> "Stefan B Rusynko" <sbr_enjoy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:#RuSmGIoDHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > Add a JavaScript onclick event to call the alert from your hyperlink
> > --
> >
> > _____________________________________________
> > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
> > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
> > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
> > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
> > _____________________________________________
> >
> >
> > "-z" <Hitharneighbor@ihatespam.com> wrote in message
> news:u3loU0HoDHA.2808@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > | I use FP2K
> > | ==========
> > | Say I want to hyperlink to a very busy page, such as refdesk.com, and
I
> want
> > | to remind the user to use ctrl+f to find what s/he wants, is there a
way
> to
> > | call up a quick tip such as this before the page comes up
> > |
> > | I can do this with JavaScript if I generate the page, but NOT if I
> hyperlink
> > | "out"
> > |
> > | Thank you
> > |
> > |
> >
> >
>
>

Kathleen
Sat Nov 01 13:59:30 CST 2003

Create a new page in your web containing the instructions and put a redirect
in it; in HTML view, add the following to the Head section:
<meta http-equiv="refresh" content="6; URL=http://www.the
otherwebsite.com/theotherpage.htm">
The value given to 'content' is the number of seconds before the refresh
will take place; the value given to 'URL' is the page you want your visitor
sent to. You may also want to include a text link to the page in case your
visitor's browser does not support the 'refresh'.

Then link to the new page, which after x number of seconds, will send them
on to the other page.

--
~ Kathleen Anderson
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
Spider Web Woman Designs
http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/resources/


-z <Hitharneighbor@ihatespam.com> wrote:
> I use FP2K
> ==========
> Say I want to hyperlink to a very busy page, such as refdesk.com, and
> I want to remind the user to use ctrl+f to find what s/he wants, is
> there a way to call up a quick tip such as this before the page comes
> up
>
> I can do this with JavaScript if I generate the page, but NOT if I
> hyperlink "out"
>
> Thank you

-z
Sat Nov 01 18:14:55 CST 2003

Thank you
"Mouse over" may be what I want to explore before I have the User to
Hyperlink to a page I do NOT own...



"Kathleen Anderson [MVP- FP]" <spiderwebwoman@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:OEE3rKLoDHA.424@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Create a new page in your web containing the instructions and put a
redirect
> in it; in HTML view, add the following to the Head section:
> <meta http-equiv="refresh" content="6; URL=http://www.the
> otherwebsite.com/theotherpage.htm">
> The value given to 'content' is the number of seconds before the refresh
> will take place; the value given to 'URL' is the page you want your
visitor
> sent to. You may also want to include a text link to the page in case your
> visitor's browser does not support the 'refresh'.
>
> Then link to the new page, which after x number of seconds, will send them
> on to the other page.
>
> --
> ~ Kathleen Anderson
> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
> Spider Web Woman Designs
> http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/resources/
>
>
> -z <Hitharneighbor@ihatespam.com> wrote:
> > I use FP2K
> > ==========
> > Say I want to hyperlink to a very busy page, such as refdesk.com, and
> > I want to remind the user to use ctrl+f to find what s/he wants, is
> > there a way to call up a quick tip such as this before the page comes
> > up
> >
> > I can do this with JavaScript if I generate the page, but NOT if I
> > hyperlink "out"
> >
> > Thank you
>
>

clintonG
Sun Nov 02 00:06:50 CST 2003

Well -- somehow -- you were right about the location :-)
But I get the points for suggesting the preferred event :-)


--
<%= Clinton Gallagher
A/E/C Consulting, Web Design, e-Commerce Software Development
Wauwatosa, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin USA
NET csgallagher@REMOVETHISTEXTmetromilwaukee.com
URL http://www.metromilwaukee.com/clintongallagher/



"Steve Easton" <admin@95isalive.com> wrote in message
news:uQ5LpFLoDHA.1004@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> The problem here is ( If I read his post correctly )
> that he doesn't "own" the target page, so Post Announce
> isn't an option.
>
> --
> using 2k PRO but....95isalive
> This site is best viewed............
> .......................with a computer
>
> "clintonG" <csgallagher@REMOVETHISTEXT@metromilwaukee.com> wrote in
message
> news:um71B0KoDHA.2232@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > I have a better idea -- I think -- since you are familiar with
> > JavaScript I won't have to talk to you like you were a four
> > year old ;-)
> >
> > Two approaches: Pre-Annouce or Post-Announce, the latter of
> > which (Post-Announce) may be best as only you really understand
> > the context of your application.
> >
> > Yes, I underastand you said you want to annouce 'before' the
> > target page is loaded.
> >
> > Post-Announce is better as it lends itself to a process that is
> > more dynamic than relying on a hard-coded contextual
> > click event applied to an anchor. After all, once the click event
> > fires the application is committed and you may still want or need
> > to do contextual processing in the target page anyway.
> >
> > Adopting a User Assistance mindset then. The most useful
> > event for Pre-Announce functionality is the onMouseOver
> > event which occurs in the source page We see this all the time
> > with tool tips and so on.
> >
> > Using Post-Announce you leave the source page alone, the user
> > clicks-through and your target page uses the onLoad event to call
> > a function to dynamically process what you need.
> >
> > This latter approach allows the target page to be entered via any source
> > page, is much more dynamic, and helps keep source pages free of
> > clutter.
> >
> > Now, if what you were saying when stating 'not when I hyperlink out'
> > happened to mean you do not know how to use JavaScript to process
> > the click a
> > click event you are well advised to use the JavaScript FAQ.
> >
> > SEE: http://developer.irt.org/
> >
> > Lastly, be advised of overLIB
> > SEE: http://www.bosrup.com/web/overlib/
> >
> > --
> > <%= Clinton Gallagher
> > A/E/C Consulting, Web Design, e-Commerce Software Development
> > Wauwatosa, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin USA
> > NET csgallagher@REMOVETHISTEXTmetromilwaukee.com
> > URL http://www.metromilwaukee.com/clintongallagher/
> >
> > "Stefan B Rusynko" <sbr_enjoy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:#RuSmGIoDHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > Add a JavaScript onclick event to call the alert from your hyperlink
> > > --
> > >
> > > _____________________________________________
> > > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
> > > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
> > > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
> > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
> > > _____________________________________________
> > >
> > >
> > > "-z" <Hitharneighbor@ihatespam.com> wrote in message
> > news:u3loU0HoDHA.2808@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > | I use FP2K
> > > | ==========
> > > | Say I want to hyperlink to a very busy page, such as refdesk.com,
and
> I
> > want
> > > | to remind the user to use ctrl+f to find what s/he wants, is there a
> way
> > to
> > > | call up a quick tip such as this before the page comes up
> > > |
> > > | I can do this with JavaScript if I generate the page, but NOT if I
> > hyperlink
> > > | "out"
> > > |
> > > | Thank you
> > > |
> > > |
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Steve
Sun Nov 02 10:10:09 CST 2003

LOL :-)

--
using 2k PRO but....95isalive
This site is best viewed............
.......................with a computer

"clintonG" <csgallagher@REMOVETHISTEXT@metromilwaukee.com> wrote in message
news:eSNuDeQoDHA.1676@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Well -- somehow -- you were right about the location :-)
> But I get the points for suggesting the preferred event :-)
>
>
> --
> <%= Clinton Gallagher
> A/E/C Consulting, Web Design, e-Commerce Software Development
> Wauwatosa, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin USA
> NET csgallagher@REMOVETHISTEXTmetromilwaukee.com
> URL http://www.metromilwaukee.com/clintongallagher/
>
>
>
> "Steve Easton" <admin@95isalive.com> wrote in message
> news:uQ5LpFLoDHA.1004@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > The problem here is ( If I read his post correctly )
> > that he doesn't "own" the target page, so Post Announce
> > isn't an option.
> >
> > --
> > using 2k PRO but....95isalive
> > This site is best viewed............
> > .......................with a computer
> >
> > "clintonG" <csgallagher@REMOVETHISTEXT@metromilwaukee.com> wrote in
> message
> > news:um71B0KoDHA.2232@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > I have a better idea -- I think -- since you are familiar with
> > > JavaScript I won't have to talk to you like you were a four
> > > year old ;-)
> > >
> > > Two approaches: Pre-Annouce or Post-Announce, the latter of
> > > which (Post-Announce) may be best as only you really understand
> > > the context of your application.
> > >
> > > Yes, I underastand you said you want to annouce 'before' the
> > > target page is loaded.
> > >
> > > Post-Announce is better as it lends itself to a process that is
> > > more dynamic than relying on a hard-coded contextual
> > > click event applied to an anchor. After all, once the click event
> > > fires the application is committed and you may still want or need
> > > to do contextual processing in the target page anyway.
> > >
> > > Adopting a User Assistance mindset then. The most useful
> > > event for Pre-Announce functionality is the onMouseOver
> > > event which occurs in the source page We see this all the time
> > > with tool tips and so on.
> > >
> > > Using Post-Announce you leave the source page alone, the user
> > > clicks-through and your target page uses the onLoad event to call
> > > a function to dynamically process what you need.
> > >
> > > This latter approach allows the target page to be entered via any
source
> > > page, is much more dynamic, and helps keep source pages free of
> > > clutter.
> > >
> > > Now, if what you were saying when stating 'not when I hyperlink out'
> > > happened to mean you do not know how to use JavaScript to process
> > > the click a
> > > click event you are well advised to use the JavaScript FAQ.
> > >
> > > SEE: http://developer.irt.org/
> > >
> > > Lastly, be advised of overLIB
> > > SEE: http://www.bosrup.com/web/overlib/
> > >
> > > --
> > > <%= Clinton Gallagher
> > > A/E/C Consulting, Web Design, e-Commerce Software Development
> > > Wauwatosa, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin USA
> > > NET csgallagher@REMOVETHISTEXTmetromilwaukee.com
> > > URL http://www.metromilwaukee.com/clintongallagher/
> > >
> > > "Stefan B Rusynko" <sbr_enjoy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:#RuSmGIoDHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > > Add a JavaScript onclick event to call the alert from your hyperlink
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > _____________________________________________
> > > > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
> > > > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
> > > > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
> > > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
> > > > _____________________________________________
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "-z" <Hitharneighbor@ihatespam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:u3loU0HoDHA.2808@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > > | I use FP2K
> > > > | ==========
> > > > | Say I want to hyperlink to a very busy page, such as refdesk.com,
> and
> > I
> > > want
> > > > | to remind the user to use ctrl+f to find what s/he wants, is there
a
> > way
> > > to
> > > > | call up a quick tip such as this before the page comes up
> > > > |
> > > > | I can do this with JavaScript if I generate the page, but NOT if I
> > > hyperlink
> > > > | "out"
> > > > |
> > > > | Thank you
> > > > |
> > > > |
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>