Probably it is a silly question, but...

I have Exchange 2003 connected thru an ISP smtp server to the Internet.
Everything works well, but...

I need to change the "reply to" field in the messages sent to the Internet, so the receivers reply to an assigned e-mail address (not the one assigned to the user by the operating System). Inside the local domain, nothing should change

Example:
John Smith (JohnS@dom.com)
Alex Chip (AlexC@dom.com)

when alex Chip sends a message to support@microsoft.com, the receiver should send its answers to "info@spa.com" (not to AlexC@dom.com)

When AlexC@dom.com sends a message to JohnS@dom.com, John Smith should send its answers to AlexC@dom.com.

By the Way, AlexC@dom.com and JohnS@dom.com do not exist outside the local domain (they cannot receive emails from internet)


How is it possible to do that?

Re: users sharing same internet email address by Matthew

Matthew
Thu Jul 08 15:45:42 CDT 2004

Hi Alex,

The only way that I would know to do with would be with a 3rd party product
or with a custom SMTP sink that would modify the reply to address as the
email passed thru the SMTP virtual server. The other problem with this is
that you would need an account internally for info@spa.com so replied to a
posted message would go to that mailbox and not to the originator; unless
you are going to have a separate "receive" mailbox for everyone.

If you could say why you are trying to do this configuration I maybe able to
provide you with an alternate solution.

Hope this helps,

--
Matthew Byrd
Microsoft PSS

When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
that others may learn and benefit from your issue.

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


"alex chip" <alexchip@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5536D442-98D1-42E0-B998-08B38C5784A6@microsoft.com...
> Probably it is a silly question, but...
>
> I have Exchange 2003 connected thru an ISP smtp server to the Internet.
> Everything works well, but...
>
> I need to change the "reply to" field in the messages sent to the
> Internet, so the receivers reply to an assigned e-mail address (not the
> one assigned to the user by the operating System). Inside the local
> domain, nothing should change
>
> Example:
> John Smith (JohnS@dom.com)
> Alex Chip (AlexC@dom.com)
>
> when alex Chip sends a message to support@microsoft.com, the receiver
> should send its answers to "info@spa.com" (not to AlexC@dom.com)
>
> When AlexC@dom.com sends a message to JohnS@dom.com, John Smith should
> send its answers to AlexC@dom.com.
>
> By the Way, AlexC@dom.com and JohnS@dom.com do not exist outside the local
> domain (they cannot receive emails from internet)
>
>
> How is it possible to do that?
>
>
>
>



Re: users sharing same internet email address by alexchip

alexchip
Thu Jul 08 16:24:01 CDT 2004


Dear Matthew!

"info@spa.com" is accessed by a proxy server that collects messages from the ISP server the messages, forwarding them internally to a local user "admin@dom.com".

The problem is that at this moment an user that replies to a John Smith message will actually reply to JohnS@dom.com (that does not exist for Internet users!).

Before using Exchange 2003, we did in this way: every Outlook 2003 client had two accounts: one Exchange 5.5 account (primary) and one POP3 account, where it was possible to indicate the "reply to" field. Automatically every message not for local domain was sent using the POP3 account, with the specified "reply to" field.

But this way does not work in Exchange 2003. The POP3 account is ignored and Exchange 2003 tries to send all messages; we had to configure the connector in order to send messages to Internet. So it began to work, but with the problem of the misconfigured "reply to" field.

Thank you in advance

Alex

"Matthew Byrd [MSFT]" wrote:

> Hi Alex,
>
> The only way that I would know to do with would be with a 3rd party product
> or with a custom SMTP sink that would modify the reply to address as the
> email passed thru the SMTP virtual server. The other problem with this is
> that you would need an account internally for info@spa.com so replied to a
> posted message would go to that mailbox and not to the originator; unless
> you are going to have a separate "receive" mailbox for everyone.
>
> If you could say why you are trying to do this configuration I maybe able to
> provide you with an alternate solution.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> --
> Matthew Byrd
> Microsoft PSS
>
> When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
> that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>
>
> "alex chip" <alexchip@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:5536D442-98D1-42E0-B998-08B38C5784A6@microsoft.com...
> > Probably it is a silly question, but...
> >
> > I have Exchange 2003 connected thru an ISP smtp server to the Internet.
> > Everything works well, but...
> >
> > I need to change the "reply to" field in the messages sent to the
> > Internet, so the receivers reply to an assigned e-mail address (not the
> > one assigned to the user by the operating System). Inside the local
> > domain, nothing should change
> >
> > Example:
> > John Smith (JohnS@dom.com)
> > Alex Chip (AlexC@dom.com)
> >
> > when alex Chip sends a message to support@microsoft.com, the receiver
> > should send its answers to "info@spa.com" (not to AlexC@dom.com)
> >
> > When AlexC@dom.com sends a message to JohnS@dom.com, John Smith should
> > send its answers to AlexC@dom.com.
> >
> > By the Way, AlexC@dom.com and JohnS@dom.com do not exist outside the local
> > domain (they cannot receive emails from internet)
> >
> >
> > How is it possible to do that?
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

Re: users sharing same internet email address by Herb

Herb
Thu Jul 08 19:44:43 CDT 2004

I don't know if it will help or not, but I had/have a similar problem. To
resolve the wrong reply to address, I had to manually edit the email address
on the general tab of the user's AD properties.

However, I still haven't figured out how to make the info@domain email work
when it goes to someone (or multiple people) that already have an external
email account at our isp. The best solution I have heard so far is that
emails like that need to have a user called info on the domain and then give
the "send on behalf of" rights to the people that use it...


"alex chip" <alexchip@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A5EB84D9-2574-40CF-9417-D7D3E3E8AA58@microsoft.com...
> BTW:
>
> we can say that "info@spa.com" is common to all people (all replies must
be forwarderd to this address only)
>
> "alex chip" wrote:
>
> >
> > Dear Matthew!
> >
> > "info@spa.com" is accessed by a proxy server that collects messages from
the ISP server the messages, forwarding them internally to a local user
"admin@dom.com".
> >
> > The problem is that at this moment an user that replies to a John Smith
message will actually reply to JohnS@dom.com (that does not exist for
Internet users!).
> >
> > Before using Exchange 2003, we did in this way: every Outlook 2003
client had two accounts: one Exchange 5.5 account (primary) and one POP3
account, where it was possible to indicate the "reply to" field.
Automatically every message not for local domain was sent using the POP3
account, with the specified "reply to" field.
> >
> > But this way does not work in Exchange 2003. The POP3 account is ignored
and Exchange 2003 tries to send all messages; we had to configure the
connector in order to send messages to Internet. So it began to work, but
with the problem of the misconfigured "reply to" field.
> >
> > Thank you in advance
> >
> > Alex
> >
> > "Matthew Byrd [MSFT]" wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Alex,
> > >
> > > The only way that I would know to do with would be with a 3rd party
product
> > > or with a custom SMTP sink that would modify the reply to address as
the
> > > email passed thru the SMTP virtual server. The other problem with
this is
> > > that you would need an account internally for info@spa.com so replied
to a
> > > posted message would go to that mailbox and not to the originator;
unless
> > > you are going to have a separate "receive" mailbox for everyone.
> > >
> > > If you could say why you are trying to do this configuration I maybe
able to
> > > provide you with an alternate solution.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps,
> > >
> > > --
> > > Matthew Byrd
> > > Microsoft PSS
> > >
> > > When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader
so
> > > that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
> > >
> > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
> > >
> > >
> > > "alex chip" <alexchip@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:5536D442-98D1-42E0-B998-08B38C5784A6@microsoft.com...
> > > > Probably it is a silly question, but...
> > > >
> > > > I have Exchange 2003 connected thru an ISP smtp server to the
Internet.
> > > > Everything works well, but...
> > > >
> > > > I need to change the "reply to" field in the messages sent to the
> > > > Internet, so the receivers reply to an assigned e-mail address (not
the
> > > > one assigned to the user by the operating System). Inside the local
> > > > domain, nothing should change
> > > >
> > > > Example:
> > > > John Smith (JohnS@dom.com)
> > > > Alex Chip (AlexC@dom.com)
> > > >
> > > > when alex Chip sends a message to support@microsoft.com, the
receiver
> > > > should send its answers to "info@spa.com" (not to AlexC@dom.com)
> > > >
> > > > When AlexC@dom.com sends a message to JohnS@dom.com, John Smith
should
> > > > send its answers to AlexC@dom.com.
> > > >
> > > > By the Way, AlexC@dom.com and JohnS@dom.com do not exist outside the
local
> > > > domain (they cannot receive emails from internet)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > How is it possible to do that?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >



Re: users sharing same internet email address by Matthew

Matthew
Fri Jul 09 08:42:28 CDT 2004

Hi Alex,

That is basically what I thought might be happening. You are utilizing your
ISP to collect messages bound for Exchange. If you have an always on
internet connection then I would recommend that you change that way you are
sending a receiving email in order to simplify this situation.

Exchange 2003 is natively able to send and receive email from the internet.
I would recommend registering "dom.com" if you have not already and then
place an MX record with your DNS provider that points to the public IP
address of your Exchange server. That would be the simplest thing to do to
resolve your issue. At that point all of the email with flow out as
JohnS@dom.com and internet users will be able to reply directly to that
address.

This entire setup is very easy to do and can be done for less than $10 a
month.

Also wanted to let you know that the reason for the behavior is that
Exchange 2003 is SMTP native so outlook will try to send the email out thru
Exchange.

I was also noting in your post that you may have configured an SMTP
connector to take care of your Outbound Email. This is not necessarily
needed. It is better to configure the SMTP virtual server directly to send
the email if possible.

If you need further clarification or assistance please let me know.

Hope this Helps,
--
Matthew Byrd
Microsoft PSS

When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
that others may learn and benefit from your issue.

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.



"alex chip" <alexchip@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:93FF816B-FC78-4B4A-89F7-107087153225@microsoft.com...
>
> Dear Matthew!
>
> "info@spa.com" is accessed by a proxy server that collects messages from
> the ISP server the messages, forwarding them internally to a local user
> "admin@dom.com".
>
> The problem is that at this moment an user that replies to a John Smith
> message will actually reply to JohnS@dom.com (that does not exist for
> Internet users!).
>
> Before using Exchange 2003, we did in this way: every Outlook 2003 client
> had two accounts: one Exchange 5.5 account (primary) and one POP3 account,
> where it was possible to indicate the "reply to" field. Automatically
> every message not for local domain was sent using the POP3 account, with
> the specified "reply to" field.
>
> But this way does not work in Exchange 2003. The POP3 account is ignored
> and Exchange 2003 tries to send all messages; we had to configure the
> connector in order to send messages to Internet. So it began to work, but
> with the problem of the misconfigured "reply to" field.
>
> Thank you in advance
>
> Alex
>
> "Matthew Byrd [MSFT]" wrote:
>
>> Hi Alex,
>>
>> The only way that I would know to do with would be with a 3rd party
>> product
>> or with a custom SMTP sink that would modify the reply to address as the
>> email passed thru the SMTP virtual server. The other problem with this
>> is
>> that you would need an account internally for info@spa.com so replied to
>> a
>> posted message would go to that mailbox and not to the originator; unless
>> you are going to have a separate "receive" mailbox for everyone.
>>
>> If you could say why you are trying to do this configuration I maybe able
>> to
>> provide you with an alternate solution.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>>
>> --
>> Matthew Byrd
>> Microsoft PSS
>>
>> When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
>> that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
>>
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights.
>>
>>
>> "alex chip" <alexchip@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:5536D442-98D1-42E0-B998-08B38C5784A6@microsoft.com...
>> > Probably it is a silly question, but...
>> >
>> > I have Exchange 2003 connected thru an ISP smtp server to the Internet.
>> > Everything works well, but...
>> >
>> > I need to change the "reply to" field in the messages sent to the
>> > Internet, so the receivers reply to an assigned e-mail address (not the
>> > one assigned to the user by the operating System). Inside the local
>> > domain, nothing should change
>> >
>> > Example:
>> > John Smith (JohnS@dom.com)
>> > Alex Chip (AlexC@dom.com)
>> >
>> > when alex Chip sends a message to support@microsoft.com, the receiver
>> > should send its answers to "info@spa.com" (not to AlexC@dom.com)
>> >
>> > When AlexC@dom.com sends a message to JohnS@dom.com, John Smith should
>> > send its answers to AlexC@dom.com.
>> >
>> > By the Way, AlexC@dom.com and JohnS@dom.com do not exist outside the
>> > local
>> > domain (they cannot receive emails from internet)
>> >
>> >
>> > How is it possible to do that?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>



Re: users sharing same internet email address by alexchip

alexchip
Fri Jul 09 10:40:01 CDT 2004

Dear Matthew,

First of all I want to say Thank You for the time you are spending for me; a Thank You to Mr. Herb as well for the same reason.

I have understood very well what you mean and I agree with you.

Unfortunately my CEO likes this way (manual forwarding of external emails arrived) and he does not want that external people can send direct message to any of us (for security reasons).

Also he does not understand why with Exchange 5.5 we could do that.

I think I have to write a "sink" script that add the "reply to" field to the messages directed outside our domain.

Anyway I think in the future your solution will be the best.

Thank You All and God Bless You.

Alex

"Matthew Byrd [MSFT]" wrote:

> Hi Alex,
>
> That is basically what I thought might be happening. You are utilizing your
> ISP to collect messages bound for Exchange. If you have an always on
> internet connection then I would recommend that you change that way you are
> sending a receiving email in order to simplify this situation.
>
> Exchange 2003 is natively able to send and receive email from the internet.
> I would recommend registering "dom.com" if you have not already and then
> place an MX record with your DNS provider that points to the public IP
> address of your Exchange server. That would be the simplest thing to do to
> resolve your issue. At that point all of the email with flow out as
> JohnS@dom.com and internet users will be able to reply directly to that
> address.
>
> This entire setup is very easy to do and can be done for less than $10 a
> month.
>
> Also wanted to let you know that the reason for the behavior is that
> Exchange 2003 is SMTP native so outlook will try to send the email out thru
> Exchange.
>
> I was also noting in your post that you may have configured an SMTP
> connector to take care of your Outbound Email. This is not necessarily
> needed. It is better to configure the SMTP virtual server directly to send
> the email if possible.
>
> If you need further clarification or assistance please let me know.
>
> Hope this Helps,
> --
> Matthew Byrd
> Microsoft PSS
>
> When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
> that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>
>
>
> "alex chip" <alexchip@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:93FF816B-FC78-4B4A-89F7-107087153225@microsoft.com...
> >
> > Dear Matthew!
> >
> > "info@spa.com" is accessed by a proxy server that collects messages from
> > the ISP server the messages, forwarding them internally to a local user
> > "admin@dom.com".
> >
> > The problem is that at this moment an user that replies to a John Smith
> > message will actually reply to JohnS@dom.com (that does not exist for
> > Internet users!).
> >
> > Before using Exchange 2003, we did in this way: every Outlook 2003 client
> > had two accounts: one Exchange 5.5 account (primary) and one POP3 account,
> > where it was possible to indicate the "reply to" field. Automatically
> > every message not for local domain was sent using the POP3 account, with
> > the specified "reply to" field.
> >
> > But this way does not work in Exchange 2003. The POP3 account is ignored
> > and Exchange 2003 tries to send all messages; we had to configure the
> > connector in order to send messages to Internet. So it began to work, but
> > with the problem of the misconfigured "reply to" field.
> >
> > Thank you in advance
> >
> > Alex
> >
> > "Matthew Byrd [MSFT]" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Alex,
> >>
> >> The only way that I would know to do with would be with a 3rd party
> >> product
> >> or with a custom SMTP sink that would modify the reply to address as the
> >> email passed thru the SMTP virtual server. The other problem with this
> >> is
> >> that you would need an account internally for info@spa.com so replied to
> >> a
> >> posted message would go to that mailbox and not to the originator; unless
> >> you are going to have a separate "receive" mailbox for everyone.
> >>
> >> If you could say why you are trying to do this configuration I maybe able
> >> to
> >> provide you with an alternate solution.
> >>
> >> Hope this helps,
> >>
> >> --
> >> Matthew Byrd
> >> Microsoft PSS
> >>
> >> When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
> >> that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
> >>
> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> >> rights.
> >>
> >>
> >> "alex chip" <alexchip@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:5536D442-98D1-42E0-B998-08B38C5784A6@microsoft.com...
> >> > Probably it is a silly question, but...
> >> >
> >> > I have Exchange 2003 connected thru an ISP smtp server to the Internet.
> >> > Everything works well, but...
> >> >
> >> > I need to change the "reply to" field in the messages sent to the
> >> > Internet, so the receivers reply to an assigned e-mail address (not the
> >> > one assigned to the user by the operating System). Inside the local
> >> > domain, nothing should change
> >> >
> >> > Example:
> >> > John Smith (JohnS@dom.com)
> >> > Alex Chip (AlexC@dom.com)
> >> >
> >> > when alex Chip sends a message to support@microsoft.com, the receiver
> >> > should send its answers to "info@spa.com" (not to AlexC@dom.com)
> >> >
> >> > When AlexC@dom.com sends a message to JohnS@dom.com, John Smith should
> >> > send its answers to AlexC@dom.com.
> >> >
> >> > By the Way, AlexC@dom.com and JohnS@dom.com do not exist outside the
> >> > local
> >> > domain (they cannot receive emails from internet)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > How is it possible to do that?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

Re: users sharing same internet email address by Victor

Victor
Mon Jul 12 08:00:45 CDT 2004

Hello Alex,

you coud consider SendAsGroup application:
http://www.ivasoft.biz/sendasgroup.shtml


--
Regards,

Victor Ivanidze,
software developer


"alex chip" <alexchip@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A20E9313-9CE5-44FD-8D93-0614F28F6135@microsoft.com...
> Dear Matthew,
>
> First of all I want to say Thank You for the time you are spending for me;
a Thank You to Mr. Herb as well for the same reason.
>
> I have understood very well what you mean and I agree with you.
>
> Unfortunately my CEO likes this way (manual forwarding of external emails
arrived) and he does not want that external people can send direct message
to any of us (for security reasons).
>
> Also he does not understand why with Exchange 5.5 we could do that.
>
> I think I have to write a "sink" script that add the "reply to" field to
the messages directed outside our domain.
>
> Anyway I think in the future your solution will be the best.
>
> Thank You All and God Bless You.
>
> Alex
>
> "Matthew Byrd [MSFT]" wrote:
>
> > Hi Alex,
> >
> > That is basically what I thought might be happening. You are utilizing
your
> > ISP to collect messages bound for Exchange. If you have an always on
> > internet connection then I would recommend that you change that way you
are
> > sending a receiving email in order to simplify this situation.
> >
> > Exchange 2003 is natively able to send and receive email from the
internet.
> > I would recommend registering "dom.com" if you have not already and then
> > place an MX record with your DNS provider that points to the public IP
> > address of your Exchange server. That would be the simplest thing to do
to
> > resolve your issue. At that point all of the email with flow out as
> > JohnS@dom.com and internet users will be able to reply directly to that
> > address.
> >
> > This entire setup is very easy to do and can be done for less than $10 a
> > month.
> >
> > Also wanted to let you know that the reason for the behavior is that
> > Exchange 2003 is SMTP native so outlook will try to send the email out
thru
> > Exchange.
> >
> > I was also noting in your post that you may have configured an SMTP
> > connector to take care of your Outbound Email. This is not necessarily
> > needed. It is better to configure the SMTP virtual server directly to
send
> > the email if possible.
> >
> > If you need further clarification or assistance please let me know.
> >
> > Hope this Helps,
> > --
> > Matthew Byrd
> > Microsoft PSS
> >
> > When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
> > that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
> >
> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
> >
> >
> >
> > "alex chip" <alexchip@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:93FF816B-FC78-4B4A-89F7-107087153225@microsoft.com...
> > >
> > > Dear Matthew!
> > >
> > > "info@spa.com" is accessed by a proxy server that collects messages
from
> > > the ISP server the messages, forwarding them internally to a local
user
> > > "admin@dom.com".
> > >
> > > The problem is that at this moment an user that replies to a John
Smith
> > > message will actually reply to JohnS@dom.com (that does not exist for
> > > Internet users!).
> > >
> > > Before using Exchange 2003, we did in this way: every Outlook 2003
client
> > > had two accounts: one Exchange 5.5 account (primary) and one POP3
account,
> > > where it was possible to indicate the "reply to" field. Automatically
> > > every message not for local domain was sent using the POP3 account,
with
> > > the specified "reply to" field.
> > >
> > > But this way does not work in Exchange 2003. The POP3 account is
ignored
> > > and Exchange 2003 tries to send all messages; we had to configure the
> > > connector in order to send messages to Internet. So it began to work,
but
> > > with the problem of the misconfigured "reply to" field.
> > >
> > > Thank you in advance
> > >
> > > Alex
> > >
> > > "Matthew Byrd [MSFT]" wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Alex,
> > >>
> > >> The only way that I would know to do with would be with a 3rd party
> > >> product
> > >> or with a custom SMTP sink that would modify the reply to address as
the
> > >> email passed thru the SMTP virtual server. The other problem with
this
> > >> is
> > >> that you would need an account internally for info@spa.com so replied
to
> > >> a
> > >> posted message would go to that mailbox and not to the originator;
unless
> > >> you are going to have a separate "receive" mailbox for everyone.
> > >>
> > >> If you could say why you are trying to do this configuration I maybe
able
> > >> to
> > >> provide you with an alternate solution.
> > >>
> > >> Hope this helps,
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Matthew Byrd
> > >> Microsoft PSS
> > >>
> > >> When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader
so
> > >> that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
> > >>
> > >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> > >> rights.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "alex chip" <alexchip@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:5536D442-98D1-42E0-B998-08B38C5784A6@microsoft.com...
> > >> > Probably it is a silly question, but...
> > >> >
> > >> > I have Exchange 2003 connected thru an ISP smtp server to the
Internet.
> > >> > Everything works well, but...
> > >> >
> > >> > I need to change the "reply to" field in the messages sent to the
> > >> > Internet, so the receivers reply to an assigned e-mail address (not
the
> > >> > one assigned to the user by the operating System). Inside the local
> > >> > domain, nothing should change
> > >> >
> > >> > Example:
> > >> > John Smith (JohnS@dom.com)
> > >> > Alex Chip (AlexC@dom.com)
> > >> >
> > >> > when alex Chip sends a message to support@microsoft.com, the
receiver
> > >> > should send its answers to "info@spa.com" (not to AlexC@dom.com)
> > >> >
> > >> > When AlexC@dom.com sends a message to JohnS@dom.com, John Smith
should
> > >> > send its answers to AlexC@dom.com.
> > >> >
> > >> > By the Way, AlexC@dom.com and JohnS@dom.com do not exist outside
the
> > >> > local
> > >> > domain (they cannot receive emails from internet)
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > How is it possible to do that?
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
> >



Re: users sharing same internet email address by Matthew

Matthew
Tue Jul 13 09:07:56 CDT 2004

Hi Alex,

To the best of my knowledge you should be able to write and event sink that
does this. If you are having issue with getting the sink to work then I
recommend you contact our Developer support group. They will be more than
happy to assist you with setting up your sink.

The only other option I can think of would be to create a mailbox that was
info@domain.com then give everyone send as rights on that mailbox. Then if
you wanted to send an email out to the internet you would need to chance the
from field manually in outlook.

Hope this Helps,

--
Matthew Byrd
Microsoft PSS

When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
that others may learn and benefit from your issue.

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

"alex chip" <alexchip@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8C5A73EE-14DC-4564-9100-26598FA55CED@microsoft.com...
> Dear Matthew,
>
> I prepared the SMTP event sink as you suggested (that changes the "reply
> to" field), but it does not work with messages created with Outlook 2003,
> either if it works if I simulate it with Telnet.
>
> I have seen an article in support.microsoft.com this is due to the fact
> that Outlook 2003 sends messages using MAPI, so the event sink can read
> attributes, but actually it cannot change them.
>
> Any workaround? Or I have to return back to Exchange 5.5 (good old Ex
> 5.5!)?
> One workaround could be the possibility to insert two accounts in Outlook
> 2003: an Exchange 2003 account (for internal messages) and a POP3/SMTP
> account for the messages to be sent outside (like I did when I have
> Exchange 5.5).
> Is it possible to set Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003 in order to have this
> behaviour?
>
> Frankly, it is unbelievable it is not possible to resolve this "little"
> trouble in anyway!
> Do I really have to buy a 3rd part software (it costs 50% of Exchange
> Server 2003 itself!) only to achieve it??
>
> Or do I have to advise my client "ah yes, now we have Exchange 2003, very
> powerfull; by the way, now you need to change manually the from field,
> otherwise receiver cannot reply to you....".
>
> Alex
>
> "Matthew Byrd [MSFT]" wrote:
>
>> Hi Alex,
>>
>> That is basically what I thought might be happening. You are utilizing
>> your
>> ISP to collect messages bound for Exchange. If you have an always on
>> internet connection then I would recommend that you change that way you
>> are
>> sending a receiving email in order to simplify this situation.
>>
>> Exchange 2003 is natively able to send and receive email from the
>> internet.
>> I would recommend registering "dom.com" if you have not already and then
>> place an MX record with your DNS provider that points to the public IP
>> address of your Exchange server. That would be the simplest thing to do
>> to
>> resolve your issue. At that point all of the email with flow out as
>> JohnS@dom.com and internet users will be able to reply directly to that
>> address.
>>
>> This entire setup is very easy to do and can be done for less than $10 a
>> month.
>>
>> Also wanted to let you know that the reason for the behavior is that
>> Exchange 2003 is SMTP native so outlook will try to send the email out
>> thru
>> Exchange.
>>
>> I was also noting in your post that you may have configured an SMTP
>> connector to take care of your Outbound Email. This is not necessarily
>> needed. It is better to configure the SMTP virtual server directly to
>> send
>> the email if possible.
>>
>> If you need further clarification or assistance please let me know.
>>
>> Hope this Helps,
>> --
>> Matthew Byrd
>> Microsoft PSS
>>
>> When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
>> that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
>>
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights.
>>
>>
>>
>> "alex chip" <alexchip@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:93FF816B-FC78-4B4A-89F7-107087153225@microsoft.com...
>> >
>> > Dear Matthew!
>> >
>> > "info@spa.com" is accessed by a proxy server that collects messages
>> > from
>> > the ISP server the messages, forwarding them internally to a local user
>> > "admin@dom.com".
>> >
>> > The problem is that at this moment an user that replies to a John Smith
>> > message will actually reply to JohnS@dom.com (that does not exist for
>> > Internet users!).
>> >
>> > Before using Exchange 2003, we did in this way: every Outlook 2003
>> > client
>> > had two accounts: one Exchange 5.5 account (primary) and one POP3
>> > account,
>> > where it was possible to indicate the "reply to" field. Automatically
>> > every message not for local domain was sent using the POP3 account,
>> > with
>> > the specified "reply to" field.
>> >
>> > But this way does not work in Exchange 2003. The POP3 account is
>> > ignored
>> > and Exchange 2003 tries to send all messages; we had to configure the
>> > connector in order to send messages to Internet. So it began to work,
>> > but
>> > with the problem of the misconfigured "reply to" field.
>> >
>> > Thank you in advance
>> >
>> > Alex
>> >
>> > "Matthew Byrd [MSFT]" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Alex,
>> >>
>> >> The only way that I would know to do with would be with a 3rd party
>> >> product
>> >> or with a custom SMTP sink that would modify the reply to address as
>> >> the
>> >> email passed thru the SMTP virtual server. The other problem with
>> >> this
>> >> is
>> >> that you would need an account internally for info@spa.com so replied
>> >> to
>> >> a
>> >> posted message would go to that mailbox and not to the originator;
>> >> unless
>> >> you are going to have a separate "receive" mailbox for everyone.
>> >>
>> >> If you could say why you are trying to do this configuration I maybe
>> >> able
>> >> to
>> >> provide you with an alternate solution.
>> >>
>> >> Hope this helps,
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Matthew Byrd
>> >> Microsoft PSS
>> >>
>> >> When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader
>> >> so
>> >> that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
>> >>
>> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> >> rights.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "alex chip" <alexchip@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:5536D442-98D1-42E0-B998-08B38C5784A6@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Probably it is a silly question, but...
>> >> >
>> >> > I have Exchange 2003 connected thru an ISP smtp server to the
>> >> > Internet.
>> >> > Everything works well, but...
>> >> >
>> >> > I need to change the "reply to" field in the messages sent to the
>> >> > Internet, so the receivers reply to an assigned e-mail address (not
>> >> > the
>> >> > one assigned to the user by the operating System). Inside the local
>> >> > domain, nothing should change
>> >> >
>> >> > Example:
>> >> > John Smith (JohnS@dom.com)
>> >> > Alex Chip (AlexC@dom.com)
>> >> >
>> >> > when alex Chip sends a message to support@microsoft.com, the
>> >> > receiver
>> >> > should send its answers to "info@spa.com" (not to AlexC@dom.com)
>> >> >
>> >> > When AlexC@dom.com sends a message to JohnS@dom.com, John Smith
>> >> > should
>> >> > send its answers to AlexC@dom.com.
>> >> >
>> >> > By the Way, AlexC@dom.com and JohnS@dom.com do not exist outside the
>> >> > local
>> >> > domain (they cannot receive emails from internet)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > How is it possible to do that?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>



Re: users sharing same internet email address by alexchip

alexchip
Tue Jul 13 14:44:01 CDT 2004

Ok I found the way:

1.assign 2 IP addresses to my Windows 2003 server (Ip1 and Ip2)
2.assign main virtual smtp server to listen from Ip1
3.create a 2nd virtual smtp server to listen from Ip2
4.1st virtual smtp sends unresolved addresses to 2nd virtual smtp
5.2nd virtual smtp sends unresolved addresses to external smtp
6. I create an event sink for 2nd virtual smtp to change the "fromto" and "replyto" fields

In this way:
If Outlook 2003 sends a message inside the domain, it is resolved by 1st virtual smtp.
If Outlook 2003 sends a message outside the domain, the message arrives to 1st virtual smtp using MAPI; then it is sent from 1st virtual smtp to 2nd virtual smtp using smtp language (not MAPI), so the event sink intercepts it and make all modifications; modifications are correctly executed because the message is in SMTP; finally the message is forwarded to the external SMTP server.

It works. Uff my boss now is calm.

Alex

"Matthew Byrd [MSFT]" wrote:

> Hi Alex,
>
> To the best of my knowledge you should be able to write and event sink that
> does this. If you are having issue with getting the sink to work then I
> recommend you contact our Developer support group. They will be more than
> happy to assist you with setting up your sink.
>
> The only other option I can think of would be to create a mailbox that was
> info@domain.com then give everyone send as rights on that mailbox. Then if
> you wanted to send an email out to the internet you would need to chance the
> from field manually in outlook.
>
> Hope this Helps,
>
> --
> Matthew Byrd
> Microsoft PSS
>
> When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
> that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>
> "alex chip" <alexchip@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8C5A73EE-14DC-4564-9100-26598FA55CED@microsoft.com...
> > Dear Matthew,
> >
> > I prepared the SMTP event sink as you suggested (that changes the "reply
> > to" field), but it does not work with messages created with Outlook 2003,
> > either if it works if I simulate it with Telnet.
> >
> > I have seen an article in support.microsoft.com this is due to the fact
> > that Outlook 2003 sends messages using MAPI, so the event sink can read
> > attributes, but actually it cannot change them.
> >
> > Any workaround? Or I have to return back to Exchange 5.5 (good old Ex
> > 5.5!)?
> > One workaround could be the possibility to insert two accounts in Outlook
> > 2003: an Exchange 2003 account (for internal messages) and a POP3/SMTP
> > account for the messages to be sent outside (like I did when I have
> > Exchange 5.5).
> > Is it possible to set Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003 in order to have this
> > behaviour?
> >
> > Frankly, it is unbelievable it is not possible to resolve this "little"
> > trouble in anyway!
> > Do I really have to buy a 3rd part software (it costs 50% of Exchange
> > Server 2003 itself!) only to achieve it??
> >
> > Or do I have to advise my client "ah yes, now we have Exchange 2003, very
> > powerfull; by the way, now you need to change manually the from field,
> > otherwise receiver cannot reply to you....".
> >
> > Alex
> >
> > "Matthew Byrd [MSFT]" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Alex,
> >>
> >> That is basically what I thought might be happening. You are utilizing
> >> your
> >> ISP to collect messages bound for Exchange. If you have an always on
> >> internet connection then I would recommend that you change that way you
> >> are
> >> sending a receiving email in order to simplify this situation.
> >>
> >> Exchange 2003 is natively able to send and receive email from the
> >> internet.
> >> I would recommend registering "dom.com" if you have not already and then
> >> place an MX record with your DNS provider that points to the public IP
> >> address of your Exchange server. That would be the simplest thing to do
> >> to
> >> resolve your issue. At that point all of the email with flow out as
> >> JohnS@dom.com and internet users will be able to reply directly to that
> >> address.
> >>
> >> This entire setup is very easy to do and can be done for less than $10 a
> >> month.
> >>
> >> Also wanted to let you know that the reason for the behavior is that
> >> Exchange 2003 is SMTP native so outlook will try to send the email out
> >> thru
> >> Exchange.
> >>
> >> I was also noting in your post that you may have configured an SMTP
> >> connector to take care of your Outbound Email. This is not necessarily
> >> needed. It is better to configure the SMTP virtual server directly to
> >> send
> >> the email if possible.
> >>
> >> If you need further clarification or assistance please let me know.
> >>
> >> Hope this Helps,
> >> --
> >> Matthew Byrd
> >> Microsoft PSS
> >>
> >> When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
> >> that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
> >>
> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> >> rights.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "alex chip" <alexchip@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:93FF816B-FC78-4B4A-89F7-107087153225@microsoft.com...
> >> >
> >> > Dear Matthew!
> >> >
> >> > "info@spa.com" is accessed by a proxy server that collects messages
> >> > from
> >> > the ISP server the messages, forwarding them internally to a local user
> >> > "admin@dom.com".
> >> >
> >> > The problem is that at this moment an user that replies to a John Smith
> >> > message will actually reply to JohnS@dom.com (that does not exist for
> >> > Internet users!).
> >> >
> >> > Before using Exchange 2003, we did in this way: every Outlook 2003
> >> > client
> >> > had two accounts: one Exchange 5.5 account (primary) and one POP3
> >> > account,
> >> > where it was possible to indicate the "reply to" field. Automatically
> >> > every message not for local domain was sent using the POP3 account,
> >> > with
> >> > the specified "reply to" field.
> >> >
> >> > But this way does not work in Exchange 2003. The POP3 account is
> >> > ignored
> >> > and Exchange 2003 tries to send all messages; we had to configure the
> >> > connector in order to send messages to Internet. So it began to work,
> >> > but
> >> > with the problem of the misconfigured "reply to" field.
> >> >
> >> > Thank you in advance
> >> >
> >> > Alex
> >> >
> >> > "Matthew Byrd [MSFT]" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi Alex,
> >> >>
> >> >> The only way that I would know to do with would be with a 3rd party
> >> >> product
> >> >> or with a custom SMTP sink that would modify the reply to address as
> >> >> the
> >> >> email passed thru the SMTP virtual server. The other problem with
> >> >> this
> >> >> is
> >> >> that you would need an account internally for info@spa.com so replied
> >> >> to
> >> >> a
> >> >> posted message would go to that mailbox and not to the originator;
> >> >> unless
> >> >> you are going to have a separate "receive" mailbox for everyone.
> >> >>
> >> >> If you could say why you are trying to do this configuration I maybe
> >> >> able
> >> >> to
> >> >> provide you with an alternate solution.
> >> >>
> >> >> Hope this helps,
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Matthew Byrd
> >> >> Microsoft PSS
> >> >>
> >> >> When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader
> >> >> so
> >> >> that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
> >> >>
> >> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> >> >> rights.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "alex chip" <alexchip@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:5536D442-98D1-42E0-B998-08B38C5784A6@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Probably it is a silly question, but...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I have Exchange 2003 connected thru an ISP smtp server to the
> >> >> > Internet.
> >> >> > Everything works well, but...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I need to change the "reply to" field in the messages sent to the
> >> >> > Internet, so the receivers reply to an assigned e-mail address (not
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > one assigned to the user by the operating System). Inside the local
> >> >> > domain, nothing should change
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Example:
> >> >> > John Smith (JohnS@dom.com)
> >> >> > Alex Chip (AlexC@dom.com)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > when alex Chip sends a message to support@microsoft.com, the
> >> >> > receiver
> >> >> > should send its answers to "info@spa.com" (not to AlexC@dom.com)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > When AlexC@dom.com sends a message to JohnS@dom.com, John Smith
> >> >> > should
> >> >> > send its answers to AlexC@dom.com.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > By the Way, AlexC@dom.com and JohnS@dom.com do not exist outside the
> >> >> > local
> >> >> > domain (they cannot receive emails from internet)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > How is it possible to do that?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>