Is it possible to set up a multi-role Exchange 2007 server that is not
a Domain Controller and without an edge server? The multi-role
Exchange server would be the only Exchange server in the organization
(after migration is complete) where the Active Directory servers would
be separate boxes.

Thanks,

--
Matt Hickman

Re: A simple Exchange 2007 organization with a single server -- modification by Mark

Mark
Sun Nov 04 07:41:51 PST 2007

On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 07:21:19 -0800, Matt Hickman <hemojr@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Is it possible to set up a multi-role Exchange 2007 server that is not
>a Domain Controller and without an edge server? The multi-role
>Exchange server would be the only Exchange server in the organization
>(after migration is complete) where the Active Directory servers would
>be separate boxes.
>
>Thanks,

Yeah, just tick the boxes to installl the MB, CAS and HT roles and
you're away.
This is a bit of an obvious question and I can't help feeling there's
something more to it. Was it simple or have you more to share?

Re: A simple Exchange 2007 organization with a single server -- modification by Matt

Matt
Sun Nov 04 12:33:06 PST 2007

On Nov 4, 9:41 am, "Mark Arnold [MVP]" <m...@mvps.org> wrote:
> This is a bit of an obvious question and I can't help feeling there's
> something more to it. Was it simple or have you more to share?

Just dotting my i's and crossing my t's.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa998891.aspx presents two
options only (and with no apparent wiggle room): a single server and
multiple servers. The multiple server option makes no mention of the
edge server being optional. Just wanted to make sure that the edge
server was not a required element if the single Exchange server did
was not also an AD server.


Re: A simple Exchange 2007 organization with a single server -- modification by Matt

Matt
Sun Nov 04 13:04:04 PST 2007

On Nov 4, 2:33 pm, Matt Hickman <hem...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 4, 9:41 am, "Mark Arnold [MVP]" <m...@mvps.org> wrote:
>
> > This is a bit of an obvious question and I can't help feeling there's
> > something more to it. Was it simple or have you more to share?
>
> Just dotting my i's and crossing my t's.
>
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa998891.aspxpresents two
> options only (and with no apparent wiggle room): a single server and
> multiple servers. The multiple server option makes no mention of the
> edge server being optional. Just wanted to make sure that the edge
> server was not a required element if the single Exchange server did
> was not also an AD server.

Hmm maybe AD is required Microsoft Exchange Active Directory
Topology Service is filing with the following:

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Service Control Manager
Event Category: None
Event ID: 7024
Date: 11/4/2007
Time: 2:19:40 PM
User: N/A
Computer: xxxxxxxxx
Description:
The Microsoft Exchange Active Directory Topology Service service
terminated with service-specific error 2147942402 (0x80070002).




Re: A simple Exchange 2007 organization with a single server -- modification by Mark

Mark
Mon Nov 05 01:05:47 PST 2007

On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 12:33:06 -0800, Matt Hickman <hemojr@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Nov 4, 9:41 am, "Mark Arnold [MVP]" <m...@mvps.org> wrote:
>> This is a bit of an obvious question and I can't help feeling there's
>> something more to it. Was it simple or have you more to share?
>
>Just dotting my i's and crossing my t's.
>
>http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa998891.aspx presents two
>options only (and with no apparent wiggle room): a single server and
>multiple servers. The multiple server option makes no mention of the
>edge server being optional. Just wanted to make sure that the edge
>server was not a required element if the single Exchange server did
>was not also an AD server.

The Edge server is ALWAYS optional. It is NEVER a mandatory server
under ANY circumstances. You'll notice that I am a bit of a Jihadist
against Microsoft on this. There are too many people of all levels
who, like you, interpret the official documentation as requiring an
Edge.

Cheers.

M.

Re: A simple Exchange 2007 organization with a single server -- modification by Harry

Harry
Thu Nov 08 07:18:15 PST 2007

Mark

Please forgive me for butting in. You say:-

>> There are too many people of all levels who, like you, interpret the official documentation as requiring an Edge.

This is not so surpising! IMO, the MS documentation on this is awful - the
usual HTML-link-filled file nonsense, where no one subject is treated in its
entirety as it relates to that subject, but is instead full of hyperlinks to
elsewhere which take you on a confusing and badly-structured, circuitous
route to where you didn't want to go.

>> The Edge server is ALWAYS optional. It is NEVER a mandatory server under ANY circumstances.

Are you sure? Well, I'm sure you are, but the following suggests that it's
not at all clear-cut.

I've come to this ng looking for guidance and info on setting up Anti-Spam
on an ExchServ2007 box, because I'm mightily confused. Take the following
link:-

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb124897.aspx

=========================================================
Configuring and Managing Spam Quarantine

Configuring Spam Quarantine
To configure spam quarantine, you must follow these steps:
1. ENABLE CONTENT FILTERING (my caps).
2. Create a spam quarantine mailbox.
3. Specify the spam quarantine mailbox.
4. Set the SCL quarantine threshold.
5. Manage the spam quarantine mailbox.
6. Adjust the SCL quarantine threshold as needed.

Important:
Configuration changes that you make to the Content Filter agent by using the
Exchange Management Console or the Exchange Management Shell are made only
to the local computer that has the Edge Transport server role installed.

For more information, see HPOW TO ENABLE OR DISABLE CONTENT FILTERING.

=============================================================


Click on that link, and you go here:-

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa995953.aspx

=============================================================

How to Enable or Disable Content Filtering

This topic explains how to enable or disable content filtering
functionality. By default, in Microsoft Exchange Server 2007, content
filtering is enabled on the Edge Transport server only for inbound,
unauthenticated messages from the Internet??.

Before You Begin
To perform the following procedures on a computer that has the Edge
Transport server role installed??.
To use the Exchange Management Console to enable or disable content
filtering functionality
1. Open the Exchange Management Console on the Edge Transport server.
2. In the console tree, click Edge Transport.
3. In the work pane, click the Anti-spam tab, and then select Content
Filtering.
4. In the action pane, click Enable or Disable as appropriate.


and so on.

======================================================================

ALL of this suggests that in order to be able to use Anti-Spam filtering
under Exchange Server 2007, you have to have an Edge server on which to do
it. Nowhere does it seem to discuss doing this on anything else.

I've been trying to configure mine, and can find no instructions on enabling
Content Filtering that do not relate to an Edge server.

Can this be done on a Hub and Mailbox server?

H





"Mark Arnold [MVP]" <mark@mvps.org> wrote:

>The Edge server is ALWAYS optional. It is NEVER a mandatory server
>under ANY circumstances.