I have some questions about modifying an SMTP connector in Exchange 2003 sp2

Our production email environment has three email servers, two back end and
one front end in a single admin and single site/routing group. Our
connection to and from internet mail is using a McAfee antispam/antivirus
gateway "SCM" appliance.

Our current configuration has a connector set up for internet mail. It has
the "*" address space and has one of the servers designated as the
bridgehead server and the "smart host" setting pointing to the IP of the
McAfee device. The McAfee appliance is set to forward incoming mail for our
system to the bridgehead server.

This configuration has been set up and been stable for over three years.

Recently we've been running into an issue when sending large (3,000+
recipients) out through the McAfee appliance (we've just opened a ticket
with McAfee; they're working on it). One of the ideas we're looking into
is setting our system to bypass the McAfee gateway for outgoing email and
have the bridgehead server send directly out to the various internet
recipients. Incoming mail would still go through the appliance.

Our networking group can modify the firewall to allow outgoing SMTP and DNS
connections from the bridgehead server, but I just want to make sure I
understand the changes on the connector and the effects. I have some
questions about this:

1) Once the firewall is set, is all I need to do is set the connector to
use "DNS to route to each address space on this connector" instead of the
"forward all mail to. Smart Host", correct?

2) Changing the connector would only affect outgoing mail, correct? The
McAfee appliance is our incoming SPAM filter, we do NOT want to bypass this
for incoming mail.

3) The firewall would be modified to only allow connections initiated
from the inside. This is not a major security risk since connection
requests initiated from the outside would not be accepted, correct?

4) Once I change the connector setting, does it take effect immediately
or do I need to restart any services (or the server)?

Any information would be appreciated.

Mike O.

Re: Question about SMTP connector for internet mail on Exchange 2003 by Bharat

Bharat
Wed Mar 05 19:34:05 CST 2008

Responses inline.

--
Bharat Suneja
MVP - Exchange
www.zenprise.com
NEW blog location:
exchangepedia.com/blog
----------------------------


"Mike O" <put_the_spam@the.can> wrote in message
news:u$w1RLyfIHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>I have some questions about modifying an SMTP connector in Exchange 2003
>sp2
>
> Our production email environment has three email servers, two back end and
> one front end in a single admin and single site/routing group. Our
> connection to and from internet mail is using a McAfee antispam/antivirus
> gateway "SCM" appliance.
>
> Our current configuration has a connector set up for internet mail. It
> has the "*" address space and has one of the servers designated as the
> bridgehead server and the "smart host" setting pointing to the IP of the
> McAfee device. The McAfee appliance is set to forward incoming mail for
> our system to the bridgehead server.
>
> This configuration has been set up and been stable for over three years.
>
> Recently we've been running into an issue when sending large (3,000+
> recipients) out through the McAfee appliance (we've just opened a ticket
> with McAfee; they're working on it). One of the ideas we're looking into
> is setting our system to bypass the McAfee gateway for outgoing email and
> have the bridgehead server send directly out to the various internet
> recipients. Incoming mail would still go through the appliance.
>
> Our networking group can modify the firewall to allow outgoing SMTP and
> DNS connections from the bridgehead server, but I just want to make sure I
> understand the changes on the connector and the effects. I have some
> questions about this:
>
> 1) Once the firewall is set, is all I need to do is set the connector
> to use "DNS to route to each address space on this connector" instead of
> the "forward all mail to. Smart Host", correct?

Correct. Make sure the server can resolve internet domains before you do
that, and also test outbound SMTP connectivity using telnet (to smtp port of
an external/internet mail host).

>
> 2) Changing the connector would only affect outgoing mail, correct?
> The McAfee appliance is our incoming SPAM filter, we do NOT want to
> bypass this for incoming mail.

Correct. Connectors are (generically speaking) a bunch of settings for
routing outbound mail. Inbound mail is controlled by external MX and A
records.

>
> 3) The firewall would be modified to only allow connections initiated
> from the inside. This is not a major security risk since connection
> requests initiated from the outside would not be accepted, correct?

Correct.

>
> 4) Once I change the connector setting, does it take effect immediately
> or do I need to restart any services (or the server)?

Routing changes take effect almost immediately.
>
> Any information would be appreciated.

You have a good understanding of how it works. :)

>
> Mike O.


Re: Question about SMTP connector for internet mail on Exchange 2003 by Bharat

Bharat
Wed Mar 05 19:36:00 CST 2008

Responded in m.p.e.admin.

--
Bharat Suneja
MVP - Exchange
www.zenprise.com
NEW blog location:
exchangepedia.com/blog
----------------------------


"Mike O" <put_the_spam@the.can> wrote in message
news:u$w1RLyfIHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>I have some questions about modifying an SMTP connector in Exchange 2003
>sp2
>
> Our production email environment has three email servers, two back end and
> one front end in a single admin and single site/routing group. Our
> connection to and from internet mail is using a McAfee antispam/antivirus
> gateway "SCM" appliance.
>
> Our current configuration has a connector set up for internet mail. It
> has the "*" address space and has one of the servers designated as the
> bridgehead server and the "smart host" setting pointing to the IP of the
> McAfee device. The McAfee appliance is set to forward incoming mail for
> our system to the bridgehead server.
>
> This configuration has been set up and been stable for over three years.
>
> Recently we've been running into an issue when sending large (3,000+
> recipients) out through the McAfee appliance (we've just opened a ticket
> with McAfee; they're working on it). One of the ideas we're looking into
> is setting our system to bypass the McAfee gateway for outgoing email and
> have the bridgehead server send directly out to the various internet
> recipients. Incoming mail would still go through the appliance.
>
> Our networking group can modify the firewall to allow outgoing SMTP and
> DNS connections from the bridgehead server, but I just want to make sure I
> understand the changes on the connector and the effects. I have some
> questions about this:
>
> 1) Once the firewall is set, is all I need to do is set the connector
> to use "DNS to route to each address space on this connector" instead of
> the "forward all mail to. Smart Host", correct?
>
> 2) Changing the connector would only affect outgoing mail, correct?
> The McAfee appliance is our incoming SPAM filter, we do NOT want to
> bypass this for incoming mail.
>
> 3) The firewall would be modified to only allow connections initiated
> from the inside. This is not a major security risk since connection
> requests initiated from the outside would not be accepted, correct?
>
> 4) Once I change the connector setting, does it take effect immediately
> or do I need to restart any services (or the server)?
>
> Any information would be appreciated.
>
> Mike O.


Re: Question about SMTP connector for internet mail on Exchange 2003 by Bharat

Bharat
Wed Mar 05 19:36:38 CST 2008

Responded in m.p.e.admin. You can use the Followup-to field in Outlook
Express/Windows Mail to have follow-ups redirected to a single or all
newsgroups to make trackin responses easier.

--
Bharat Suneja
MVP - Exchange
www.zenprise.com
NEW blog location:
exchangepedia.com/blog
----------------------------


"Mike O" <put_the_spam@the.can> wrote in message
news:u$w1RLyfIHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>I have some questions about modifying an SMTP connector in Exchange 2003
>sp2
>
> Our production email environment has three email servers, two back end and
> one front end in a single admin and single site/routing group. Our
> connection to and from internet mail is using a McAfee antispam/antivirus
> gateway "SCM" appliance.
>
> Our current configuration has a connector set up for internet mail. It
> has the "*" address space and has one of the servers designated as the
> bridgehead server and the "smart host" setting pointing to the IP of the
> McAfee device. The McAfee appliance is set to forward incoming mail for
> our system to the bridgehead server.
>
> This configuration has been set up and been stable for over three years.
>
> Recently we've been running into an issue when sending large (3,000+
> recipients) out through the McAfee appliance (we've just opened a ticket
> with McAfee; they're working on it). One of the ideas we're looking into
> is setting our system to bypass the McAfee gateway for outgoing email and
> have the bridgehead server send directly out to the various internet
> recipients. Incoming mail would still go through the appliance.
>
> Our networking group can modify the firewall to allow outgoing SMTP and
> DNS connections from the bridgehead server, but I just want to make sure I
> understand the changes on the connector and the effects. I have some
> questions about this:
>
> 1) Once the firewall is set, is all I need to do is set the connector
> to use "DNS to route to each address space on this connector" instead of
> the "forward all mail to. Smart Host", correct?
>
> 2) Changing the connector would only affect outgoing mail, correct?
> The McAfee appliance is our incoming SPAM filter, we do NOT want to
> bypass this for incoming mail.
>
> 3) The firewall would be modified to only allow connections initiated
> from the inside. This is not a major security risk since connection
> requests initiated from the outside would not be accepted, correct?
>
> 4) Once I change the connector setting, does it take effect immediately
> or do I need to restart any services (or the server)?
>
> Any information would be appreciated.
>
> Mike O.


Re: Question about SMTP connector for internet mail on Exchange 2003 by Mike

Mike
Wed Mar 05 20:17:40 CST 2008

"Bharat Suneja [MVP]" <bharat@nospam.org> wrote in message
news:uW5dloyfIHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Responses inline.
>
> --
> Bharat Suneja
> MVP - Exchange
> www.zenprise.com
> NEW blog location:
> exchangepedia.com/blog
> ----------------------------
>
>
> "Mike O" <put_the_spam@the.can> wrote in message
> news:u$w1RLyfIHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>I have some questions about modifying an SMTP connector in Exchange 2003
>>sp2
>>
>> Our production email environment has three email servers, two back end
>> and one front end in a single admin and single site/routing group. Our
>> connection to and from internet mail is using a McAfee antispam/antivirus
>> gateway "SCM" appliance.
>>
>> Our current configuration has a connector set up for internet mail. It
>> has the "*" address space and has one of the servers designated as the
>> bridgehead server and the "smart host" setting pointing to the IP of the
>> McAfee device. The McAfee appliance is set to forward incoming mail for
>> our system to the bridgehead server.
>>
>> This configuration has been set up and been stable for over three years.
>>
>> Recently we've been running into an issue when sending large (3,000+
>> recipients) out through the McAfee appliance (we've just opened a ticket
>> with McAfee; they're working on it). One of the ideas we're looking
>> into is setting our system to bypass the McAfee gateway for outgoing
>> email and have the bridgehead server send directly out to the various
>> internet recipients. Incoming mail would still go through the appliance.
>>
>> Our networking group can modify the firewall to allow outgoing SMTP and
>> DNS connections from the bridgehead server, but I just want to make sure
>> I understand the changes on the connector and the effects. I have some
>> questions about this:
>>
>> 1) Once the firewall is set, is all I need to do is set the connector
>> to use "DNS to route to each address space on this connector" instead of
>> the "forward all mail to. Smart Host", correct?
>
> Correct. Make sure the server can resolve internet domains before you do
> that, and also test outbound SMTP connectivity using telnet (to smtp port
> of an external/internet mail host).
>

Currently the server is pointing to our internal DNS servers, which will
then forward to external DNS (if necessary) for name resolution. I was
wondering if I should set the Exchange server look first at the external DNS
of our ISP (after opening up the port), then look at the internal DNS server
if it can't resolve it on the outside DNS system. If I have it look
internal first, will be a performance issue, since the internal DNS would
have to forward it out? I guess I'm wondering which would be more
important, resolving internal names quicker, or external ones? My feeling
is that there would be more external lookups necessary since the internal
traffic would be mainly just to the other Exchange boxes. I definately
don't want to do anything to slow down our internal email users, though.

>>
>> 2) Changing the connector would only affect outgoing mail, correct?
>> The McAfee appliance is our incoming SPAM filter, we do NOT want to
>> bypass this for incoming mail.
>
> Correct. Connectors are (generically speaking) a bunch of settings for
> routing outbound mail. Inbound mail is controlled by external MX and A
> records.
>
>>
>> 3) The firewall would be modified to only allow connections initiated
>> from the inside. This is not a major security risk since connection
>> requests initiated from the outside would not be accepted, correct?
>
> Correct.
>
>>
>> 4) Once I change the connector setting, does it take effect
>> immediately or do I need to restart any services (or the server)?
>
> Routing changes take effect almost immediately.
>>
>> Any information would be appreciated.
>
> You have a good understanding of how it works. :)
>
>>
>> Mike O.
>


Re: Question about SMTP connector for internet mail on Exchange 2003 by Bharat

Bharat
Thu Mar 06 00:39:32 CST 2008

DNS performance generally isn't a bottleneck except in really large
environments.
Can your internal DNS servers resolve internet domains? If yes, simply point
Exchange to internal DNS (which would be the default configuration - so no
change required).

--
Bharat Suneja
MVP - Exchange
www.zenprise.com
NEW blog location:
exchangepedia.com/blog
----------------------------


"Mike O" <put_the_spam@the.can> wrote in message
news:uu3EDBzfIHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> "Bharat Suneja [MVP]" <bharat@nospam.org> wrote in message
> news:uW5dloyfIHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Responses inline.
>>
>> --
>> Bharat Suneja
>> MVP - Exchange
>> www.zenprise.com
>> NEW blog location:
>> exchangepedia.com/blog
>> ----------------------------
>>
>>
>> "Mike O" <put_the_spam@the.can> wrote in message
>> news:u$w1RLyfIHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>I have some questions about modifying an SMTP connector in Exchange 2003
>>>sp2
>>>
>>> Our production email environment has three email servers, two back end
>>> and one front end in a single admin and single site/routing group. Our
>>> connection to and from internet mail is using a McAfee
>>> antispam/antivirus gateway "SCM" appliance.
>>>
>>> Our current configuration has a connector set up for internet mail. It
>>> has the "*" address space and has one of the servers designated as the
>>> bridgehead server and the "smart host" setting pointing to the IP of the
>>> McAfee device. The McAfee appliance is set to forward incoming mail for
>>> our system to the bridgehead server.
>>>
>>> This configuration has been set up and been stable for over three years.
>>>
>>> Recently we've been running into an issue when sending large (3,000+
>>> recipients) out through the McAfee appliance (we've just opened a ticket
>>> with McAfee; they're working on it). One of the ideas we're looking
>>> into is setting our system to bypass the McAfee gateway for outgoing
>>> email and have the bridgehead server send directly out to the various
>>> internet recipients. Incoming mail would still go through the
>>> appliance.
>>>
>>> Our networking group can modify the firewall to allow outgoing SMTP and
>>> DNS connections from the bridgehead server, but I just want to make sure
>>> I understand the changes on the connector and the effects. I have some
>>> questions about this:
>>>
>>> 1) Once the firewall is set, is all I need to do is set the connector
>>> to use "DNS to route to each address space on this connector" instead of
>>> the "forward all mail to. Smart Host", correct?
>>
>> Correct. Make sure the server can resolve internet domains before you do
>> that, and also test outbound SMTP connectivity using telnet (to smtp port
>> of an external/internet mail host).
>>
>
> Currently the server is pointing to our internal DNS servers, which will
> then forward to external DNS (if necessary) for name resolution. I was
> wondering if I should set the Exchange server look first at the external
> DNS of our ISP (after opening up the port), then look at the internal DNS
> server if it can't resolve it on the outside DNS system. If I have it
> look internal first, will be a performance issue, since the internal DNS
> would have to forward it out? I guess I'm wondering which would be more
> important, resolving internal names quicker, or external ones? My feeling
> is that there would be more external lookups necessary since the internal
> traffic would be mainly just to the other Exchange boxes. I definately
> don't want to do anything to slow down our internal email users, though.
>
>>>
>>> 2) Changing the connector would only affect outgoing mail, correct?
>>> The McAfee appliance is our incoming SPAM filter, we do NOT want to
>>> bypass this for incoming mail.
>>
>> Correct. Connectors are (generically speaking) a bunch of settings for
>> routing outbound mail. Inbound mail is controlled by external MX and A
>> records.
>>
>>>
>>> 3) The firewall would be modified to only allow connections initiated
>>> from the inside. This is not a major security risk since connection
>>> requests initiated from the outside would not be accepted, correct?
>>
>> Correct.
>>
>>>
>>> 4) Once I change the connector setting, does it take effect
>>> immediately or do I need to restart any services (or the server)?
>>
>> Routing changes take effect almost immediately.
>>>
>>> Any information would be appreciated.
>>
>> You have a good understanding of how it works. :)
>>
>>>
>>> Mike O.
>>
>


Re: Question about SMTP connector for internet mail on Exchange 2003 by Bharat

Bharat
Thu Mar 06 00:44:37 CST 2008

:)

OK - never mind.
--
Bharat Suneja
MVP - Exchange
www.zenprise.com
NEW blog location:
exchangepedia.com/blog
----------------------------


"Bharat Suneja [MVP]" <bharat@nospam.org> wrote in message
news:O3JqAqyfIHA.1944@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Responded in m.p.e.admin. You can use the Followup-to field in Outlook
> Express/Windows Mail to have follow-ups redirected to a single or all
> newsgroups to make trackin responses easier.
>
> --
> Bharat Suneja
> MVP - Exchange
> www.zenprise.com
> NEW blog location:
> exchangepedia.com/blog
> ----------------------------
>
>
> "Mike O" <put_the_spam@the.can> wrote in message
> news:u$w1RLyfIHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>I have some questions about modifying an SMTP connector in Exchange 2003
>>sp2
>>
>> Our production email environment has three email servers, two back end
>> and one front end in a single admin and single site/routing group. Our
>> connection to and from internet mail is using a McAfee antispam/antivirus
>> gateway "SCM" appliance.
>>
>> Our current configuration has a connector set up for internet mail. It
>> has the "*" address space and has one of the servers designated as the
>> bridgehead server and the "smart host" setting pointing to the IP of the
>> McAfee device. The McAfee appliance is set to forward incoming mail for
>> our system to the bridgehead server.
>>
>> This configuration has been set up and been stable for over three years.
>>
>> Recently we've been running into an issue when sending large (3,000+
>> recipients) out through the McAfee appliance (we've just opened a ticket
>> with McAfee; they're working on it). One of the ideas we're looking
>> into is setting our system to bypass the McAfee gateway for outgoing
>> email and have the bridgehead server send directly out to the various
>> internet recipients. Incoming mail would still go through the appliance.
>>
>> Our networking group can modify the firewall to allow outgoing SMTP and
>> DNS connections from the bridgehead server, but I just want to make sure
>> I understand the changes on the connector and the effects. I have some
>> questions about this:
>>
>> 1) Once the firewall is set, is all I need to do is set the connector
>> to use "DNS to route to each address space on this connector" instead of
>> the "forward all mail to. Smart Host", correct?
>>
>> 2) Changing the connector would only affect outgoing mail, correct?
>> The McAfee appliance is our incoming SPAM filter, we do NOT want to
>> bypass this for incoming mail.
>>
>> 3) The firewall would be modified to only allow connections initiated
>> from the inside. This is not a major security risk since connection
>> requests initiated from the outside would not be accepted, correct?
>>
>> 4) Once I change the connector setting, does it take effect
>> immediately or do I need to restart any services (or the server)?
>>
>> Any information would be appreciated.
>>
>> Mike O.
>


Re: Question about SMTP connector for internet mail on Exchange 2003 by Mike

Mike
Thu Mar 06 17:45:38 CST 2008


"Bharat Suneja [MVP]" <bharat@nospam.org> wrote in message
news:OHu$PT1fIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> DNS performance generally isn't a bottleneck except in really large
> environments.
> Can your internal DNS servers resolve internet domains? If yes, simply
> point Exchange to internal DNS (which would be the default configuration -
> so no change required).
>
Yes, our internal DNS will go to the outside for name resolution if
necessary. I just thought that since most of the email DNS lookups are
probably going to be for the outbound internet domains, it might be more
efficient to have the Exchange server query the external DNS at our ISP,
instead of taking the extra hops to go to the inside ones first (which would
end up going to the external ones anyway).


> --
> Bharat Suneja
> MVP - Exchange
> www.zenprise.com
> NEW blog location:
> exchangepedia.com/blog
> ----------------------------
>
>
> "Mike O" <put_the_spam@the.can> wrote in message
> news:uu3EDBzfIHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> "Bharat Suneja [MVP]" <bharat@nospam.org> wrote in message
>> news:uW5dloyfIHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Responses inline.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bharat Suneja
>>> MVP - Exchange
>>> www.zenprise.com
>>> NEW blog location:
>>> exchangepedia.com/blog
>>> ----------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mike O" <put_the_spam@the.can> wrote in message
>>> news:u$w1RLyfIHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>I have some questions about modifying an SMTP connector in Exchange 2003
>>>>sp2
>>>>
>>>> Our production email environment has three email servers, two back end
>>>> and one front end in a single admin and single site/routing group. Our
>>>> connection to and from internet mail is using a McAfee
>>>> antispam/antivirus gateway "SCM" appliance.
>>>>
>>>> Our current configuration has a connector set up for internet mail. It
>>>> has the "*" address space and has one of the servers designated as the
>>>> bridgehead server and the "smart host" setting pointing to the IP of
>>>> the McAfee device. The McAfee appliance is set to forward incoming
>>>> mail for our system to the bridgehead server.
>>>>
>>>> This configuration has been set up and been stable for over three
>>>> years.
>>>>
>>>> Recently we've been running into an issue when sending large (3,000+
>>>> recipients) out through the McAfee appliance (we've just opened a
>>>> ticket with McAfee; they're working on it). One of the ideas we're
>>>> looking into is setting our system to bypass the McAfee gateway for
>>>> outgoing email and have the bridgehead server send directly out to the
>>>> various internet recipients. Incoming mail would still go through the
>>>> appliance.
>>>>
>>>> Our networking group can modify the firewall to allow outgoing SMTP and
>>>> DNS connections from the bridgehead server, but I just want to make
>>>> sure I understand the changes on the connector and the effects. I have
>>>> some questions about this:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Once the firewall is set, is all I need to do is set the
>>>> connector to use "DNS to route to each address space on this connector"
>>>> instead of the "forward all mail to. Smart Host", correct?
>>>
>>> Correct. Make sure the server can resolve internet domains before you do
>>> that, and also test outbound SMTP connectivity using telnet (to smtp
>>> port of an external/internet mail host).
>>>
>>
>> Currently the server is pointing to our internal DNS servers, which will
>> then forward to external DNS (if necessary) for name resolution. I was
>> wondering if I should set the Exchange server look first at the external
>> DNS of our ISP (after opening up the port), then look at the internal DNS
>> server if it can't resolve it on the outside DNS system. If I have it
>> look internal first, will be a performance issue, since the internal DNS
>> would have to forward it out? I guess I'm wondering which would be more
>> important, resolving internal names quicker, or external ones? My
>> feeling is that there would be more external lookups necessary since the
>> internal traffic would be mainly just to the other Exchange boxes. I
>> definately don't want to do anything to slow down our internal email
>> users, though.
>>
>>>>
>>>> 2) Changing the connector would only affect outgoing mail, correct?
>>>> The McAfee appliance is our incoming SPAM filter, we do NOT want to
>>>> bypass this for incoming mail.
>>>
>>> Correct. Connectors are (generically speaking) a bunch of settings for
>>> routing outbound mail. Inbound mail is controlled by external MX and A
>>> records.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> 3) The firewall would be modified to only allow connections
>>>> initiated from the inside. This is not a major security risk since
>>>> connection requests initiated from the outside would not be accepted,
>>>> correct?
>>>
>>> Correct.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> 4) Once I change the connector setting, does it take effect
>>>> immediately or do I need to restart any services (or the server)?
>>>
>>> Routing changes take effect almost immediately.
>>>>
>>>> Any information would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> You have a good understanding of how it works. :)
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mike O.
>>>
>>
>


Re: Question about SMTP connector for internet mail on Exchange 2003 by Craig

Craig
Fri Mar 07 12:33:08 CST 2008

It's never a good idea to point your exchange servers to external DNS
servers. Always point them to your internal DNS servers and forward queries
for external hostnames from there.

--
Craig Philbeck
M3Postmasters@nospam.m3tg.com
M3 Technology Group
www.m3postmasters.com


"Mike O" <put_the_spam@the.can> wrote in message
news:OczkvQ%23fIHA.2540@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> "Bharat Suneja [MVP]" <bharat@nospam.org> wrote in message
> news:OHu$PT1fIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> DNS performance generally isn't a bottleneck except in really large
>> environments.
>> Can your internal DNS servers resolve internet domains? If yes, simply
>> point Exchange to internal DNS (which would be the default
>> configuration - so no change required).
>>
> Yes, our internal DNS will go to the outside for name resolution if
> necessary. I just thought that since most of the email DNS lookups are
> probably going to be for the outbound internet domains, it might be more
> efficient to have the Exchange server query the external DNS at our ISP,
> instead of taking the extra hops to go to the inside ones first (which
> would end up going to the external ones anyway).
>
>
>> --
>> Bharat Suneja
>> MVP - Exchange
>> www.zenprise.com
>> NEW blog location:
>> exchangepedia.com/blog
>> ----------------------------
>>
>>
>> "Mike O" <put_the_spam@the.can> wrote in message
>> news:uu3EDBzfIHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> "Bharat Suneja [MVP]" <bharat@nospam.org> wrote in message
>>> news:uW5dloyfIHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Responses inline.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Bharat Suneja
>>>> MVP - Exchange
>>>> www.zenprise.com
>>>> NEW blog location:
>>>> exchangepedia.com/blog
>>>> ----------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Mike O" <put_the_spam@the.can> wrote in message
>>>> news:u$w1RLyfIHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>I have some questions about modifying an SMTP connector in Exchange
>>>>>2003 sp2
>>>>>
>>>>> Our production email environment has three email servers, two back end
>>>>> and one front end in a single admin and single site/routing group.
>>>>> Our connection to and from internet mail is using a McAfee
>>>>> antispam/antivirus gateway "SCM" appliance.
>>>>>
>>>>> Our current configuration has a connector set up for internet mail.
>>>>> It has the "*" address space and has one of the servers designated as
>>>>> the bridgehead server and the "smart host" setting pointing to the IP
>>>>> of the McAfee device. The McAfee appliance is set to forward incoming
>>>>> mail for our system to the bridgehead server.
>>>>>
>>>>> This configuration has been set up and been stable for over three
>>>>> years.
>>>>>
>>>>> Recently we've been running into an issue when sending large (3,000+
>>>>> recipients) out through the McAfee appliance (we've just opened a
>>>>> ticket with McAfee; they're working on it). One of the ideas we're
>>>>> looking into is setting our system to bypass the McAfee gateway for
>>>>> outgoing email and have the bridgehead server send directly out to the
>>>>> various internet recipients. Incoming mail would still go through the
>>>>> appliance.
>>>>>
>>>>> Our networking group can modify the firewall to allow outgoing SMTP
>>>>> and DNS connections from the bridgehead server, but I just want to
>>>>> make sure I understand the changes on the connector and the effects.
>>>>> I have some questions about this:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Once the firewall is set, is all I need to do is set the
>>>>> connector to use "DNS to route to each address space on this
>>>>> connector" instead of the "forward all mail to. Smart Host", correct?
>>>>
>>>> Correct. Make sure the server can resolve internet domains before you
>>>> do that, and also test outbound SMTP connectivity using telnet (to smtp
>>>> port of an external/internet mail host).
>>>>
>>>
>>> Currently the server is pointing to our internal DNS servers, which will
>>> then forward to external DNS (if necessary) for name resolution. I was
>>> wondering if I should set the Exchange server look first at the external
>>> DNS of our ISP (after opening up the port), then look at the internal
>>> DNS server if it can't resolve it on the outside DNS system. If I
>>> have it look internal first, will be a performance issue, since the
>>> internal DNS would have to forward it out? I guess I'm wondering which
>>> would be more important, resolving internal names quicker, or external
>>> ones? My feeling is that there would be more external lookups necessary
>>> since the internal traffic would be mainly just to the other Exchange
>>> boxes. I definately don't want to do anything to slow down our internal
>>> email users, though.
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) Changing the connector would only affect outgoing mail, correct?
>>>>> The McAfee appliance is our incoming SPAM filter, we do NOT want to
>>>>> bypass this for incoming mail.
>>>>
>>>> Correct. Connectors are (generically speaking) a bunch of settings for
>>>> routing outbound mail. Inbound mail is controlled by external MX and A
>>>> records.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 3) The firewall would be modified to only allow connections
>>>>> initiated from the inside. This is not a major security risk since
>>>>> connection requests initiated from the outside would not be accepted,
>>>>> correct?
>>>>
>>>> Correct.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 4) Once I change the connector setting, does it take effect
>>>>> immediately or do I need to restart any services (or the server)?
>>>>
>>>> Routing changes take effect almost immediately.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any information would be appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> You have a good understanding of how it works. :)
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike O.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>



Re: Question about SMTP connector for internet mail on Exchange 2003 by Bharat

Bharat
Fri Mar 07 13:17:25 CST 2008

I wouldn't say it's never a good idea - there are situations where you would
point the SMTP VS to external DNS servers - when internal DNS servers are
unable to resolve external domains. In any case, you wouldn't want to point
the OS TCP config to point to external DNS servers.
--
Bharat Suneja
MVP - Exchange
www.zenprise.com
NEW blog location:
exchangepedia.com/blog
----------------------------


"Craig Philbeck" <M3PostMasters@nospam.m3tg.com> wrote in message
news:uxIN4GIgIHA.5296@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> It's never a good idea to point your exchange servers to external DNS
> servers. Always point them to your internal DNS servers and forward
> queries for external hostnames from there.
>
> --
> Craig Philbeck
> M3Postmasters@nospam.m3tg.com
> M3 Technology Group
> www.m3postmasters.com
>
>
> "Mike O" <put_the_spam@the.can> wrote in message
> news:OczkvQ%23fIHA.2540@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Bharat Suneja [MVP]" <bharat@nospam.org> wrote in message
>> news:OHu$PT1fIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> DNS performance generally isn't a bottleneck except in really large
>>> environments.
>>> Can your internal DNS servers resolve internet domains? If yes, simply
>>> point Exchange to internal DNS (which would be the default
>>> configuration - so no change required).
>>>
>> Yes, our internal DNS will go to the outside for name resolution if
>> necessary. I just thought that since most of the email DNS lookups are
>> probably going to be for the outbound internet domains, it might be more
>> efficient to have the Exchange server query the external DNS at our ISP,
>> instead of taking the extra hops to go to the inside ones first (which
>> would end up going to the external ones anyway).
>>
>>
>>> --
>>> Bharat Suneja
>>> MVP - Exchange
>>> www.zenprise.com
>>> NEW blog location:
>>> exchangepedia.com/blog
>>> ----------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mike O" <put_the_spam@the.can> wrote in message
>>> news:uu3EDBzfIHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> "Bharat Suneja [MVP]" <bharat@nospam.org> wrote in message
>>>> news:uW5dloyfIHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Responses inline.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Bharat Suneja
>>>>> MVP - Exchange
>>>>> www.zenprise.com
>>>>> NEW blog location:
>>>>> exchangepedia.com/blog
>>>>> ----------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mike O" <put_the_spam@the.can> wrote in message
>>>>> news:u$w1RLyfIHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>I have some questions about modifying an SMTP connector in Exchange
>>>>>>2003 sp2
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Our production email environment has three email servers, two back
>>>>>> end and one front end in a single admin and single site/routing
>>>>>> group. Our connection to and from internet mail is using a McAfee
>>>>>> antispam/antivirus gateway "SCM" appliance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Our current configuration has a connector set up for internet mail.
>>>>>> It has the "*" address space and has one of the servers designated as
>>>>>> the bridgehead server and the "smart host" setting pointing to the IP
>>>>>> of the McAfee device. The McAfee appliance is set to forward
>>>>>> incoming mail for our system to the bridgehead server.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This configuration has been set up and been stable for over three
>>>>>> years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Recently we've been running into an issue when sending large (3,000+
>>>>>> recipients) out through the McAfee appliance (we've just opened a
>>>>>> ticket with McAfee; they're working on it). One of the ideas we're
>>>>>> looking into is setting our system to bypass the McAfee gateway for
>>>>>> outgoing email and have the bridgehead server send directly out to
>>>>>> the various internet recipients. Incoming mail would still go
>>>>>> through the appliance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Our networking group can modify the firewall to allow outgoing SMTP
>>>>>> and DNS connections from the bridgehead server, but I just want to
>>>>>> make sure I understand the changes on the connector and the effects.
>>>>>> I have some questions about this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) Once the firewall is set, is all I need to do is set the
>>>>>> connector to use "DNS to route to each address space on this
>>>>>> connector" instead of the "forward all mail to. Smart Host", correct?
>>>>>
>>>>> Correct. Make sure the server can resolve internet domains before you
>>>>> do that, and also test outbound SMTP connectivity using telnet (to
>>>>> smtp port of an external/internet mail host).
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Currently the server is pointing to our internal DNS servers, which
>>>> will then forward to external DNS (if necessary) for name resolution.
>>>> I was wondering if I should set the Exchange server look first at the
>>>> external DNS of our ISP (after opening up the port), then look at the
>>>> internal DNS server if it can't resolve it on the outside DNS system.
>>>> If I have it look internal first, will be a performance issue, since
>>>> the internal DNS would have to forward it out? I guess I'm wondering
>>>> which would be more important, resolving internal names quicker, or
>>>> external ones? My feeling is that there would be more external lookups
>>>> necessary since the internal traffic would be mainly just to the other
>>>> Exchange boxes. I definately don't want to do anything to slow down
>>>> our internal email users, though.
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) Changing the connector would only affect outgoing mail,
>>>>>> correct? The McAfee appliance is our incoming SPAM filter, we do NOT
>>>>>> want to bypass this for incoming mail.
>>>>>
>>>>> Correct. Connectors are (generically speaking) a bunch of settings for
>>>>> routing outbound mail. Inbound mail is controlled by external MX and A
>>>>> records.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3) The firewall would be modified to only allow connections
>>>>>> initiated from the inside. This is not a major security risk since
>>>>>> connection requests initiated from the outside would not be accepted,
>>>>>> correct?
>>>>>
>>>>> Correct.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4) Once I change the connector setting, does it take effect
>>>>>> immediately or do I need to restart any services (or the server)?
>>>>>
>>>>> Routing changes take effect almost immediately.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any information would be appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> You have a good understanding of how it works. :)
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike O.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>


Re: Question about SMTP connector for internet mail on Exchange 2003 by Mike

Mike
Fri Mar 07 16:50:05 CST 2008

Thank you. I can see where you would want the server to find the internal
resources first, I guess I just wanted a little reassurance that we weren't
going to be causing ourselves any bottleneck on the internal DNS servers for
the rest of our network.





"Craig Philbeck" <M3PostMasters@nospam.m3tg.com> wrote in message
news:uxIN4GIgIHA.5296@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> It's never a good idea to point your exchange servers to external DNS
> servers. Always point them to your internal DNS servers and forward
> queries for external hostnames from there.
>
> --
> Craig Philbeck
> M3Postmasters@nospam.m3tg.com
> M3 Technology Group
> www.m3postmasters.com
>
>
> "Mike O" <put_the_spam@the.can> wrote in message
> news:OczkvQ%23fIHA.2540@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Bharat Suneja [MVP]" <bharat@nospam.org> wrote in message
>> news:OHu$PT1fIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> DNS performance generally isn't a bottleneck except in really large
>>> environments.
>>> Can your internal DNS servers resolve internet domains? If yes, simply
>>> point Exchange to internal DNS (which would be the default
>>> configuration - so no change required).
>>>
>> Yes, our internal DNS will go to the outside for name resolution if
>> necessary. I just thought that since most of the email DNS lookups are
>> probably going to be for the outbound internet domains, it might be more
>> efficient to have the Exchange server query the external DNS at our ISP,
>> instead of taking the extra hops to go to the inside ones first (which
>> would end up going to the external ones anyway).
>>
>>
>>> --
>>> Bharat Suneja
>>> MVP - Exchange
>>> www.zenprise.com
>>> NEW blog location:
>>> exchangepedia.com/blog
>>> ----------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mike O" <put_the_spam@the.can> wrote in message
>>> news:uu3EDBzfIHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> "Bharat Suneja [MVP]" <bharat@nospam.org> wrote in message
>>>> news:uW5dloyfIHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Responses inline.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Bharat Suneja
>>>>> MVP - Exchange
>>>>> www.zenprise.com
>>>>> NEW blog location:
>>>>> exchangepedia.com/blog
>>>>> ----------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mike O" <put_the_spam@the.can> wrote in message
>>>>> news:u$w1RLyfIHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>I have some questions about modifying an SMTP connector in Exchange
>>>>>>2003 sp2
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Our production email environment has three email servers, two back
>>>>>> end and one front end in a single admin and single site/routing
>>>>>> group. Our connection to and from internet mail is using a McAfee
>>>>>> antispam/antivirus gateway "SCM" appliance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Our current configuration has a connector set up for internet mail.
>>>>>> It has the "*" address space and has one of the servers designated as
>>>>>> the bridgehead server and the "smart host" setting pointing to the IP
>>>>>> of the McAfee device. The McAfee appliance is set to forward
>>>>>> incoming mail for our system to the bridgehead server.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This configuration has been set up and been stable for over three
>>>>>> years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Recently we've been running into an issue when sending large (3,000+
>>>>>> recipients) out through the McAfee appliance (we've just opened a
>>>>>> ticket with McAfee; they're working on it). One of the ideas we're
>>>>>> looking into is setting our system to bypass the McAfee gateway for
>>>>>> outgoing email and have the bridgehead server send directly out to
>>>>>> the various internet recipients. Incoming mail would still go
>>>>>> through the appliance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Our networking group can modify the firewall to allow outgoing SMTP
>>>>>> and DNS connections from the bridgehead server, but I just want to
>>>>>> make sure I understand the changes on the connector and the effects.
>>>>>> I have some questions about this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) Once the firewall is set, is all I need to do is set the
>>>>>> connector to use "DNS to route to each address space on this
>>>>>> connector" instead of the "forward all mail to. Smart Host", correct?
>>>>>
>>>>> Correct. Make sure the server can resolve internet domains before you
>>>>> do that, and also test outbound SMTP connectivity using telnet (to
>>>>> smtp port of an external/internet mail host).
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Currently the server is pointing to our internal DNS servers, which
>>>> will then forward to external DNS (if necessary) for name resolution.
>>>> I was wondering if I should set the Exchange server look first at the
>>>> external DNS of our ISP (after opening up the port), then look at the
>>>> internal DNS server if it can't resolve it on the outside DNS system.
>>>> If I have it look internal first, will be a performance issue, since
>>>> the internal DNS would have to forward it out? I guess I'm wondering
>>>> which would be more important, resolving internal names quicker, or
>>>> external ones? My feeling is that there would be more external lookups
>>>> necessary since the internal traffic would be mainly just to the other
>>>> Exchange boxes. I definately don't want to do anything to slow down
>>>> our internal email users, though.
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) Changing the connector would only affect outgoing mail,
>>>>>> correct? The McAfee appliance is our incoming SPAM filter, we do NOT
>>>>>> want to bypass this for incoming mail.
>>>>>
>>>>> Correct. Connectors are (generically speaking) a bunch of settings for
>>>>> routing outbound mail. Inbound mail is controlled by external MX and A
>>>>> records.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3) The firewall would be modified to only allow connections
>>>>>> initiated from the inside. This is not a major security risk since
>>>>>> connection requests initiated from the outside would not be accepted,
>>>>>> correct?
>>>>>
>>>>> Correct.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4) Once I change the connector setting, does it take effect
>>>>>> immediately or do I need to restart any services (or the server)?
>>>>>
>>>>> Routing changes take effect almost immediately.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any information would be appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> You have a good understanding of how it works. :)
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike O.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>