I have a new Windows 2007 setup with two mailbox servers with Windows 2003
R2 x64 in a CCR/Minority node set cluster with file share witness . It's
only got a few users on it at this time, but we're getting ready to start
migrating our existing users from our 2003 system.
The mailbox cluster is called EXMBC1. The two nodes are EXMBC1a and
EXMBC1b. Our internal domain is "company.local" (these are not the real
names).

It seems be working OK, the cluster fails over within 30 seconds, the users
are getting the email, but I've noticed about once a day, usually overnight,
the system event log shows a Kerberos error, ID# 4 in each mailbox server:
*************************
The kerberos client received a KRB_AP_ERR_MODIFIED error from the server
host/exmbc1b.company.local. The target name used was exmbc1. This indicates
that the password used to encrypt the kerberos service ticket is different
than that on the target server. Commonly, this is due to identically named
machine accounts in the target realm (company.local), and the client realm.
Please contact your system administrator"
**********************************

The cluster was installed using the normal setup, the hardware is new and
nothing very unusual.

I've done some searching, but not found too much that seems to apply. I've
seen some articles that address this error, but they seem to be related to
an issue where the info store won't start after a failover; ours seems to
start OK.

Like I said, it doesn't seem to be causing any major problems, but I'd like
to get it taken care of. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Mike O.

Re: Kerberos error "KRB_AP_ERR_MODIFIED" in Exchange 2007 CCR mailbox servers by Andy

Andy
Wed May 07 07:46:33 CDT 2008

On Tue, 6 May 2008 23:18:32 -0400, "Mike O" <put_the_spam@the.can>
wrote:

>I have a new Windows 2007 setup with two mailbox servers with Windows 2003
>R2 x64 in a CCR/Minority node set cluster with file share witness . It's
>only got a few users on it at this time, but we're getting ready to start
>migrating our existing users from our 2003 system.
>The mailbox cluster is called EXMBC1. The two nodes are EXMBC1a and
>EXMBC1b. Our internal domain is "company.local" (these are not the real
>names).
>
>It seems be working OK, the cluster fails over within 30 seconds, the users
>are getting the email, but I've noticed about once a day, usually overnight,
>the system event log shows a Kerberos error, ID# 4 in each mailbox server:
>*************************
>The kerberos client received a KRB_AP_ERR_MODIFIED error from the server
>host/exmbc1b.company.local. The target name used was exmbc1. This indicates
>that the password used to encrypt the kerberos service ticket is different
>than that on the target server. Commonly, this is due to identically named
>machine accounts in the target realm (company.local), and the client realm.
>Please contact your system administrator"
>**********************************
>
>The cluster was installed using the normal setup, the hardware is new and
>nothing very unusual.
>
>I've done some searching, but not found too much that seems to apply. I've
>seen some articles that address this error, but they seem to be related to
>an issue where the info store won't start after a failover; ours seems to
>start OK.
>
>Like I said, it doesn't seem to be causing any major problems, but I'd like
>to get it taken care of. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Do the events fire at the same time as your Exchange backups?


>
>Mike O.

Re: Kerberos error "KRB_AP_ERR_MODIFIED" in Exchange 2007 CCR mailbox servers by Mike

Mike
Wed May 07 21:04:40 CDT 2008


"Andy David {MVP}" <adavid@pleasekeepinngcheesebucket.com> wrote in message
news:j49324p51e2mb5farv5p3eko9l51b5vd58@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 6 May 2008 23:18:32 -0400, "Mike O" <put_the_spam@the.can>
> wrote:
>
>>I have a new Windows 2007 setup with two mailbox servers with Windows 2003
>>R2 x64 in a CCR/Minority node set cluster with file share witness . It's
>>only got a few users on it at this time, but we're getting ready to start
>>migrating our existing users from our 2003 system.
>>The mailbox cluster is called EXMBC1. The two nodes are EXMBC1a and
>>EXMBC1b. Our internal domain is "company.local" (these are not the real
>>names).
>>
>>It seems be working OK, the cluster fails over within 30 seconds, the
>>users
>>are getting the email, but I've noticed about once a day, usually
>>overnight,
>>the system event log shows a Kerberos error, ID# 4 in each mailbox server:
>>*************************
>>The kerberos client received a KRB_AP_ERR_MODIFIED error from the server
>>host/exmbc1b.company.local. The target name used was exmbc1. This
>>indicates
>>that the password used to encrypt the kerberos service ticket is different
>>than that on the target server. Commonly, this is due to identically named
>>machine accounts in the target realm (company.local), and the client
>>realm.
>>Please contact your system administrator"
>>**********************************
>>
>>The cluster was installed using the normal setup, the hardware is new and
>>nothing very unusual.
>>
>>I've done some searching, but not found too much that seems to apply.
>>I've
>>seen some articles that address this error, but they seem to be related to
>>an issue where the info store won't start after a failover; ours seems to
>>start OK.
>>
>>Like I said, it doesn't seem to be causing any major problems, but I'd
>>like
>>to get it taken care of. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> Do the events fire at the same time as your Exchange backups?
>
>

I'm not sure, but I don't think so. The backup window for this server is
between 1:00am and 6:00am. I'd have to check with our Operations group on
when they end, but we only have two users on the server, so I don't think
the backups are taking too long.

The kerberos errors are very scattered on the time. Here's the last week
or so:
5/7 1:00:25am
5/6 3:57am
5/5 1:00am
5/4 3:25am
5/3 1:00am
5/2 6:02am
5/1 5:49am
4/30 5:46am

I'll check with our operations group to see if there have been any delays on
other backup jobs that might be pushing the Exchange backup schedule off.
If it IS happening when the backups finish, what would be the cause?


Re: Kerberos error "KRB_AP_ERR_MODIFIED" in Exchange 2007 CCR mailbox servers by Andy

Andy
Thu May 08 06:59:34 CDT 2008

On Wed, 7 May 2008 22:04:40 -0400, "Mike O" <put_the_spam@the.can>
wrote:

>
>"Andy David {MVP}" <adavid@pleasekeepinngcheesebucket.com> wrote in message
>news:j49324p51e2mb5farv5p3eko9l51b5vd58@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 6 May 2008 23:18:32 -0400, "Mike O" <put_the_spam@the.can>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>I have a new Windows 2007 setup with two mailbox servers with Windows 2003
>>>R2 x64 in a CCR/Minority node set cluster with file share witness . It's
>>>only got a few users on it at this time, but we're getting ready to start
>>>migrating our existing users from our 2003 system.
>>>The mailbox cluster is called EXMBC1. The two nodes are EXMBC1a and
>>>EXMBC1b. Our internal domain is "company.local" (these are not the real
>>>names).
>>>
>>>It seems be working OK, the cluster fails over within 30 seconds, the
>>>users
>>>are getting the email, but I've noticed about once a day, usually
>>>overnight,
>>>the system event log shows a Kerberos error, ID# 4 in each mailbox server:
>>>*************************
>>>The kerberos client received a KRB_AP_ERR_MODIFIED error from the server
>>>host/exmbc1b.company.local. The target name used was exmbc1. This
>>>indicates
>>>that the password used to encrypt the kerberos service ticket is different
>>>than that on the target server. Commonly, this is due to identically named
>>>machine accounts in the target realm (company.local), and the client
>>>realm.
>>>Please contact your system administrator"
>>>**********************************
>>>
>>>The cluster was installed using the normal setup, the hardware is new and
>>>nothing very unusual.
>>>
>>>I've done some searching, but not found too much that seems to apply.
>>>I've
>>>seen some articles that address this error, but they seem to be related to
>>>an issue where the info store won't start after a failover; ours seems to
>>>start OK.
>>>
>>>Like I said, it doesn't seem to be causing any major problems, but I'd
>>>like
>>>to get it taken care of. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>>
>> Do the events fire at the same time as your Exchange backups?
>>
>>
>
>I'm not sure, but I don't think so. The backup window for this server is
>between 1:00am and 6:00am. I'd have to check with our Operations group on
>when they end, but we only have two users on the server, so I don't think
>the backups are taking too long.

Thats also almost the IS Maint window, so make sure your backups are
interferring with IS maintenance.

>
>The kerberos errors are very scattered on the time. Here's the last week
>or so:
>5/7 1:00:25am
>5/6 3:57am
>5/5 1:00am
>5/4 3:25am
>5/3 1:00am
>5/2 6:02am
>5/1 5:49am
>4/30 5:46am

Any other remote processes hitting that server? Monitoring, other
users, batch files? Someone checking the event logs remotely etc?


>
>I'll check with our operations group to see if there have been any delays on
>other backup jobs that might be pushing the Exchange backup schedule off.
>If it IS happening when the backups finish, what would be the cause?

Re: Kerberos error "KRB_AP_ERR_MODIFIED" in Exchange 2007 CCR mail by MikeO

MikeO
Thu May 08 13:06:49 CDT 2008



"Andy David {MVP}" wrote:

> On Wed, 7 May 2008 22:04:40 -0400, "Mike O" <put_the_spam@the.can>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Andy David {MVP}" <adavid@pleasekeepinngcheesebucket.com> wrote in message
> >news:j49324p51e2mb5farv5p3eko9l51b5vd58@4ax.com...
> >> On Tue, 6 May 2008 23:18:32 -0400, "Mike O" <put_the_spam@the.can>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>I have a new Windows 2007 setup with two mailbox servers with Windows 2003
> >>>R2 x64 in a CCR/Minority node set cluster with file share witness . It's
> >>>only got a few users on it at this time, but we're getting ready to start
> >>>migrating our existing users from our 2003 system.
> >>>The mailbox cluster is called EXMBC1. The two nodes are EXMBC1a and
> >>>EXMBC1b. Our internal domain is "company.local" (these are not the real
> >>>names).
> >>>
> >>>It seems be working OK, the cluster fails over within 30 seconds, the
> >>>users
> >>>are getting the email, but I've noticed about once a day, usually
> >>>overnight,
> >>>the system event log shows a Kerberos error, ID# 4 in each mailbox server:
> >>>*************************
> >>>The kerberos client received a KRB_AP_ERR_MODIFIED error from the server
> >>>host/exmbc1b.company.local. The target name used was exmbc1. This
> >>>indicates
> >>>that the password used to encrypt the kerberos service ticket is different
> >>>than that on the target server. Commonly, this is due to identically named
> >>>machine accounts in the target realm (company.local), and the client
> >>>realm.
> >>>Please contact your system administrator"
> >>>**********************************
> >>>
> >>>The cluster was installed using the normal setup, the hardware is new and
> >>>nothing very unusual.
> >>>
> >>>I've done some searching, but not found too much that seems to apply.
> >>>I've
> >>>seen some articles that address this error, but they seem to be related to
> >>>an issue where the info store won't start after a failover; ours seems to
> >>>start OK.
> >>>
> >>>Like I said, it doesn't seem to be causing any major problems, but I'd
> >>>like
> >>>to get it taken care of. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
> >>
> >> Do the events fire at the same time as your Exchange backups?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >I'm not sure, but I don't think so. The backup window for this server is
> >between 1:00am and 6:00am. I'd have to check with our Operations group on
> >when they end, but we only have two users on the server, so I don't think
> >the backups are taking too long.
>
> Thats also almost the IS Maint window, so make sure your backups are
> interferring with IS maintenance.
>
> >
> >The kerberos errors are very scattered on the time. Here's the last week
> >or so:
> >5/7 1:00:25am
> >5/6 3:57am
> >5/5 1:00am
> >5/4 3:25am
> >5/3 1:00am
> >5/2 6:02am
> >5/1 5:49am
> >4/30 5:46am
>
> Any other remote processes hitting that server? Monitoring, other
> users, batch files? Someone checking the event logs remotely etc?
>
>
> >
> >I'll check with our operations group to see if there have been any delays on
> >other backup jobs that might be pushing the Exchange backup schedule off.
> >If it IS happening when the backups finish, what would be the cause?
>

I checked with Operations, it's definately NOT tied to the timing of the
backups. It happened at 2:39am last night, then again 9:47 this morning.
I can't think of anything we would have that would hit that server,
especially the middle of the night times.

What exactly is that error saying?

Re: Kerberos error "KRB_AP_ERR_MODIFIED" in Exchange 2007 CCR mail by John

John
Thu May 08 15:39:19 CDT 2008

Whatever it was tried to acces a cluster resource using the cluster name on
a node that the cluster group was not running on (the passive node).

Each node has a target name and the cluster virtual server has a target
name. If the virtual server is active on node a, both target names exist on
node a. In your case the call was to the virtual name, EXMBC1, that used
the IP of EXMBC1B when EXMBC1B was not the active node. Something is
misconfigured to take to the host IP addresses insted of the virtual IP
address.




"Mike O." <MikeO@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:CDC727E3-06E5-4707-B6A6-AED7C32950E9@microsoft.com...
>
>
> "Andy David {MVP}" wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 7 May 2008 22:04:40 -0400, "Mike O" <put_the_spam@the.can>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Andy David {MVP}" <adavid@pleasekeepinngcheesebucket.com> wrote in
>> >message
>> >news:j49324p51e2mb5farv5p3eko9l51b5vd58@4ax.com...
>> >> On Tue, 6 May 2008 23:18:32 -0400, "Mike O" <put_the_spam@the.can>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>I have a new Windows 2007 setup with two mailbox servers with Windows
>> >>>2003
>> >>>R2 x64 in a CCR/Minority node set cluster with file share witness .
>> >>>It's
>> >>>only got a few users on it at this time, but we're getting ready to
>> >>>start
>> >>>migrating our existing users from our 2003 system.
>> >>>The mailbox cluster is called EXMBC1. The two nodes are EXMBC1a and
>> >>>EXMBC1b. Our internal domain is "company.local" (these are not the
>> >>>real
>> >>>names).
>> >>>
>> >>>It seems be working OK, the cluster fails over within 30 seconds, the
>> >>>users
>> >>>are getting the email, but I've noticed about once a day, usually
>> >>>overnight,
>> >>>the system event log shows a Kerberos error, ID# 4 in each mailbox
>> >>>server:
>> >>>*************************
>> >>>The kerberos client received a KRB_AP_ERR_MODIFIED error from the
>> >>>server
>> >>>host/exmbc1b.company.local. The target name used was exmbc1. This
>> >>>indicates
>> >>>that the password used to encrypt the kerberos service ticket is
>> >>>different
>> >>>than that on the target server. Commonly, this is due to identically
>> >>>named
>> >>>machine accounts in the target realm (company.local), and the client
>> >>>realm.
>> >>>Please contact your system administrator"
>> >>>**********************************
>> >>>
>> >>>The cluster was installed using the normal setup, the hardware is new
>> >>>and
>> >>>nothing very unusual.
>> >>>
>> >>>I've done some searching, but not found too much that seems to apply.
>> >>>I've
>> >>>seen some articles that address this error, but they seem to be
>> >>>related to
>> >>>an issue where the info store won't start after a failover; ours seems
>> >>>to
>> >>>start OK.
>> >>>
>> >>>Like I said, it doesn't seem to be causing any major problems, but I'd
>> >>>like
>> >>>to get it taken care of. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>> >>
>> >> Do the events fire at the same time as your Exchange backups?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >I'm not sure, but I don't think so. The backup window for this server
>> >is
>> >between 1:00am and 6:00am. I'd have to check with our Operations group
>> >on
>> >when they end, but we only have two users on the server, so I don't
>> >think
>> >the backups are taking too long.
>>
>> Thats also almost the IS Maint window, so make sure your backups are
>> interferring with IS maintenance.
>>
>> >
>> >The kerberos errors are very scattered on the time. Here's the last
>> >week
>> >or so:
>> >5/7 1:00:25am
>> >5/6 3:57am
>> >5/5 1:00am
>> >5/4 3:25am
>> >5/3 1:00am
>> >5/2 6:02am
>> >5/1 5:49am
>> >4/30 5:46am
>>
>> Any other remote processes hitting that server? Monitoring, other
>> users, batch files? Someone checking the event logs remotely etc?
>>
>>
>> >
>> >I'll check with our operations group to see if there have been any
>> >delays on
>> >other backup jobs that might be pushing the Exchange backup schedule
>> >off.
>> >If it IS happening when the backups finish, what would be the cause?
>>
>
> I checked with Operations, it's definately NOT tied to the timing of the
> backups. It happened at 2:39am last night, then again 9:47 this morning.
> I can't think of anything we would have that would hit that server,
> especially the middle of the night times.
>
> What exactly is that error saying?



Re: Kerberos error "KRB_AP_ERR_MODIFIED" in Exchange 2007 CCR mail by MikeO

MikeO
Fri May 09 10:13:01 CDT 2008

Thank you for the response. So it sounds like it's an issue from whatever is
calling the system, not something misconfigured in Exchange, correct?

I'll keep looking to see what is trying to access the system at those times.

"John Fullbright" wrote:

> Whatever it was tried to acces a cluster resource using the cluster name on
> a node that the cluster group was not running on (the passive node).
>
> Each node has a target name and the cluster virtual server has a target
> name. If the virtual server is active on node a, both target names exist on
> node a. In your case the call was to the virtual name, EXMBC1, that used
> the IP of EXMBC1B when EXMBC1B was not the active node. Something is
> misconfigured to take to the host IP addresses insted of the virtual IP
> address.
>
>
>
>
> "Mike O." <MikeO@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:CDC727E3-06E5-4707-B6A6-AED7C32950E9@microsoft.com...
> >
> >
> > "Andy David {MVP}" wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 7 May 2008 22:04:40 -0400, "Mike O" <put_the_spam@the.can>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Andy David {MVP}" <adavid@pleasekeepinngcheesebucket.com> wrote in
> >> >message
> >> >news:j49324p51e2mb5farv5p3eko9l51b5vd58@4ax.com...
> >> >> On Tue, 6 May 2008 23:18:32 -0400, "Mike O" <put_the_spam@the.can>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>I have a new Windows 2007 setup with two mailbox servers with Windows
> >> >>>2003
> >> >>>R2 x64 in a CCR/Minority node set cluster with file share witness .
> >> >>>It's
> >> >>>only got a few users on it at this time, but we're getting ready to
> >> >>>start
> >> >>>migrating our existing users from our 2003 system.
> >> >>>The mailbox cluster is called EXMBC1. The two nodes are EXMBC1a and
> >> >>>EXMBC1b. Our internal domain is "company.local" (these are not the
> >> >>>real
> >> >>>names).
> >> >>>
> >> >>>It seems be working OK, the cluster fails over within 30 seconds, the
> >> >>>users
> >> >>>are getting the email, but I've noticed about once a day, usually
> >> >>>overnight,
> >> >>>the system event log shows a Kerberos error, ID# 4 in each mailbox
> >> >>>server:
> >> >>>*************************
> >> >>>The kerberos client received a KRB_AP_ERR_MODIFIED error from the
> >> >>>server
> >> >>>host/exmbc1b.company.local. The target name used was exmbc1. This
> >> >>>indicates
> >> >>>that the password used to encrypt the kerberos service ticket is
> >> >>>different
> >> >>>than that on the target server. Commonly, this is due to identically
> >> >>>named
> >> >>>machine accounts in the target realm (company.local), and the client
> >> >>>realm.
> >> >>>Please contact your system administrator"
> >> >>>**********************************
> >> >>>
> >> >>>The cluster was installed using the normal setup, the hardware is new
> >> >>>and
> >> >>>nothing very unusual.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>I've done some searching, but not found too much that seems to apply.
> >> >>>I've
> >> >>>seen some articles that address this error, but they seem to be
> >> >>>related to
> >> >>>an issue where the info store won't start after a failover; ours seems
> >> >>>to
> >> >>>start OK.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Like I said, it doesn't seem to be causing any major problems, but I'd
> >> >>>like
> >> >>>to get it taken care of. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
> >> >>
> >> >> Do the events fire at the same time as your Exchange backups?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >I'm not sure, but I don't think so. The backup window for this server
> >> >is
> >> >between 1:00am and 6:00am. I'd have to check with our Operations group
> >> >on
> >> >when they end, but we only have two users on the server, so I don't
> >> >think
> >> >the backups are taking too long.
> >>
> >> Thats also almost the IS Maint window, so make sure your backups are
> >> interferring with IS maintenance.
> >>
> >> >
> >> >The kerberos errors are very scattered on the time. Here's the last
> >> >week
> >> >or so:
> >> >5/7 1:00:25am
> >> >5/6 3:57am
> >> >5/5 1:00am
> >> >5/4 3:25am
> >> >5/3 1:00am
> >> >5/2 6:02am
> >> >5/1 5:49am
> >> >4/30 5:46am
> >>
> >> Any other remote processes hitting that server? Monitoring, other
> >> users, batch files? Someone checking the event logs remotely etc?
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> >I'll check with our operations group to see if there have been any
> >> >delays on
> >> >other backup jobs that might be pushing the Exchange backup schedule
> >> >off.
> >> >If it IS happening when the backups finish, what would be the cause?
> >>
> >
> > I checked with Operations, it's definately NOT tied to the timing of the
> > backups. It happened at 2:39am last night, then again 9:47 this morning.
> > I can't think of anything we would have that would hit that server,
> > especially the middle of the night times.
> >
> > What exactly is that error saying?
>
>
>

Re: Kerberos error "KRB_AP_ERR_MODIFIED" in Exchange 2007 CCR mail by John

John
Fri May 09 13:13:13 CDT 2008

That's correct. Instead of trying to acess the virtual name on the virtual
IP, it's trying to access the virtual name on the IP of the passive node. A
network trace would probably sort things out.

John


"Mike O." <MikeO@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0DD47E3C-9420-41D7-A46D-D96CAAA5B719@microsoft.com...
> Thank you for the response. So it sounds like it's an issue from whatever
> is
> calling the system, not something misconfigured in Exchange, correct?
>
> I'll keep looking to see what is trying to access the system at those
> times.
>
> "John Fullbright" wrote:
>
>> Whatever it was tried to acces a cluster resource using the cluster name
>> on
>> a node that the cluster group was not running on (the passive node).
>>
>> Each node has a target name and the cluster virtual server has a target
>> name. If the virtual server is active on node a, both target names exist
>> on
>> node a. In your case the call was to the virtual name, EXMBC1, that
>> used
>> the IP of EXMBC1B when EXMBC1B was not the active node. Something is
>> misconfigured to take to the host IP addresses insted of the virtual IP
>> address.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Mike O." <MikeO@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:CDC727E3-06E5-4707-B6A6-AED7C32950E9@microsoft.com...
>> >
>> >
>> > "Andy David {MVP}" wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Wed, 7 May 2008 22:04:40 -0400, "Mike O" <put_the_spam@the.can>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >"Andy David {MVP}" <adavid@pleasekeepinngcheesebucket.com> wrote in
>> >> >message
>> >> >news:j49324p51e2mb5farv5p3eko9l51b5vd58@4ax.com...
>> >> >> On Tue, 6 May 2008 23:18:32 -0400, "Mike O" <put_the_spam@the.can>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>I have a new Windows 2007 setup with two mailbox servers with
>> >> >>>Windows
>> >> >>>2003
>> >> >>>R2 x64 in a CCR/Minority node set cluster with file share witness .
>> >> >>>It's
>> >> >>>only got a few users on it at this time, but we're getting ready to
>> >> >>>start
>> >> >>>migrating our existing users from our 2003 system.
>> >> >>>The mailbox cluster is called EXMBC1. The two nodes are EXMBC1a
>> >> >>>and
>> >> >>>EXMBC1b. Our internal domain is "company.local" (these are not the
>> >> >>>real
>> >> >>>names).
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>It seems be working OK, the cluster fails over within 30 seconds,
>> >> >>>the
>> >> >>>users
>> >> >>>are getting the email, but I've noticed about once a day, usually
>> >> >>>overnight,
>> >> >>>the system event log shows a Kerberos error, ID# 4 in each mailbox
>> >> >>>server:
>> >> >>>*************************
>> >> >>>The kerberos client received a KRB_AP_ERR_MODIFIED error from the
>> >> >>>server
>> >> >>>host/exmbc1b.company.local. The target name used was exmbc1. This
>> >> >>>indicates
>> >> >>>that the password used to encrypt the kerberos service ticket is
>> >> >>>different
>> >> >>>than that on the target server. Commonly, this is due to
>> >> >>>identically
>> >> >>>named
>> >> >>>machine accounts in the target realm (company.local), and the
>> >> >>>client
>> >> >>>realm.
>> >> >>>Please contact your system administrator"
>> >> >>>**********************************
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>The cluster was installed using the normal setup, the hardware is
>> >> >>>new
>> >> >>>and
>> >> >>>nothing very unusual.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>I've done some searching, but not found too much that seems to
>> >> >>>apply.
>> >> >>>I've
>> >> >>>seen some articles that address this error, but they seem to be
>> >> >>>related to
>> >> >>>an issue where the info store won't start after a failover; ours
>> >> >>>seems
>> >> >>>to
>> >> >>>start OK.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Like I said, it doesn't seem to be causing any major problems, but
>> >> >>>I'd
>> >> >>>like
>> >> >>>to get it taken care of. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Do the events fire at the same time as your Exchange backups?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >I'm not sure, but I don't think so. The backup window for this
>> >> >server
>> >> >is
>> >> >between 1:00am and 6:00am. I'd have to check with our Operations
>> >> >group
>> >> >on
>> >> >when they end, but we only have two users on the server, so I don't
>> >> >think
>> >> >the backups are taking too long.
>> >>
>> >> Thats also almost the IS Maint window, so make sure your backups are
>> >> interferring with IS maintenance.
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >The kerberos errors are very scattered on the time. Here's the last
>> >> >week
>> >> >or so:
>> >> >5/7 1:00:25am
>> >> >5/6 3:57am
>> >> >5/5 1:00am
>> >> >5/4 3:25am
>> >> >5/3 1:00am
>> >> >5/2 6:02am
>> >> >5/1 5:49am
>> >> >4/30 5:46am
>> >>
>> >> Any other remote processes hitting that server? Monitoring, other
>> >> users, batch files? Someone checking the event logs remotely etc?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >I'll check with our operations group to see if there have been any
>> >> >delays on
>> >> >other backup jobs that might be pushing the Exchange backup schedule
>> >> >off.
>> >> >If it IS happening when the backups finish, what would be the cause?
>> >>
>> >
>> > I checked with Operations, it's definately NOT tied to the timing of
>> > the
>> > backups. It happened at 2:39am last night, then again 9:47 this
>> > morning.
>> > I can't think of anything we would have that would hit that server,
>> > especially the middle of the night times.
>> >
>> > What exactly is that error saying?
>>
>>
>>



Re: Kerberos error "KRB_AP_ERR_MODIFIED" in Exchange 2007 CCR mail by Sabo,

Sabo,
Sat May 10 07:06:34 CDT 2008

Mike,

We get some same type of error on our Cluster. I haven't been able to
pinpoint what or why it happens from time to time. I would be interested
in if you find the reason or cause. Have you tried the Exchange cluster
newsgroup.



"Mike O." <MikeO@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0DD47E3C-9420-41D7-A46D-D96CAAA5B719@microsoft.com...
> Thank you for the response. So it sounds like it's an issue from whatever
> is
> calling the system, not something misconfigured in Exchange, correct?
>
> I'll keep looking to see what is trying to access the system at those
> times.
>
> "John Fullbright" wrote:
>
>> Whatever it was tried to acces a cluster resource using the cluster name
>> on
>> a node that the cluster group was not running on (the passive node).
>>
>> Each node has a target name and the cluster virtual server has a target
>> name. If the virtual server is active on node a, both target names exist
>> on
>> node a. In your case the call was to the virtual name, EXMBC1, that
>> used
>> the IP of EXMBC1B when EXMBC1B was not the active node. Something is
>> misconfigured to take to the host IP addresses insted of the virtual IP
>> address.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Mike O." <MikeO@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:CDC727E3-06E5-4707-B6A6-AED7C32950E9@microsoft.com...
>> >
>> >
>> > "Andy David {MVP}" wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Wed, 7 May 2008 22:04:40 -0400, "Mike O" <put_the_spam@the.can>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >"Andy David {MVP}" <adavid@pleasekeepinngcheesebucket.com> wrote in
>> >> >message
>> >> >news:j49324p51e2mb5farv5p3eko9l51b5vd58@4ax.com...
>> >> >> On Tue, 6 May 2008 23:18:32 -0400, "Mike O" <put_the_spam@the.can>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>I have a new Windows 2007 setup with two mailbox servers with
>> >> >>>Windows
>> >> >>>2003
>> >> >>>R2 x64 in a CCR/Minority node set cluster with file share witness .
>> >> >>>It's
>> >> >>>only got a few users on it at this time, but we're getting ready to
>> >> >>>start
>> >> >>>migrating our existing users from our 2003 system.
>> >> >>>The mailbox cluster is called EXMBC1. The two nodes are EXMBC1a
>> >> >>>and
>> >> >>>EXMBC1b. Our internal domain is "company.local" (these are not the
>> >> >>>real
>> >> >>>names).
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>It seems be working OK, the cluster fails over within 30 seconds,
>> >> >>>the
>> >> >>>users
>> >> >>>are getting the email, but I've noticed about once a day, usually
>> >> >>>overnight,
>> >> >>>the system event log shows a Kerberos error, ID# 4 in each mailbox
>> >> >>>server:
>> >> >>>*************************
>> >> >>>The kerberos client received a KRB_AP_ERR_MODIFIED error from the
>> >> >>>server
>> >> >>>host/exmbc1b.company.local. The target name used was exmbc1. This
>> >> >>>indicates
>> >> >>>that the password used to encrypt the kerberos service ticket is
>> >> >>>different
>> >> >>>than that on the target server. Commonly, this is due to
>> >> >>>identically
>> >> >>>named
>> >> >>>machine accounts in the target realm (company.local), and the
>> >> >>>client
>> >> >>>realm.
>> >> >>>Please contact your system administrator"
>> >> >>>**********************************
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>The cluster was installed using the normal setup, the hardware is
>> >> >>>new
>> >> >>>and
>> >> >>>nothing very unusual.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>I've done some searching, but not found too much that seems to
>> >> >>>apply.
>> >> >>>I've
>> >> >>>seen some articles that address this error, but they seem to be
>> >> >>>related to
>> >> >>>an issue where the info store won't start after a failover; ours
>> >> >>>seems
>> >> >>>to
>> >> >>>start OK.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Like I said, it doesn't seem to be causing any major problems, but
>> >> >>>I'd
>> >> >>>like
>> >> >>>to get it taken care of. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Do the events fire at the same time as your Exchange backups?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >I'm not sure, but I don't think so. The backup window for this
>> >> >server
>> >> >is
>> >> >between 1:00am and 6:00am. I'd have to check with our Operations
>> >> >group
>> >> >on
>> >> >when they end, but we only have two users on the server, so I don't
>> >> >think
>> >> >the backups are taking too long.
>> >>
>> >> Thats also almost the IS Maint window, so make sure your backups are
>> >> interferring with IS maintenance.
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >The kerberos errors are very scattered on the time. Here's the last
>> >> >week
>> >> >or so:
>> >> >5/7 1:00:25am
>> >> >5/6 3:57am
>> >> >5/5 1:00am
>> >> >5/4 3:25am
>> >> >5/3 1:00am
>> >> >5/2 6:02am
>> >> >5/1 5:49am
>> >> >4/30 5:46am
>> >>
>> >> Any other remote processes hitting that server? Monitoring, other
>> >> users, batch files? Someone checking the event logs remotely etc?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >I'll check with our operations group to see if there have been any
>> >> >delays on
>> >> >other backup jobs that might be pushing the Exchange backup schedule
>> >> >off.
>> >> >If it IS happening when the backups finish, what would be the cause?
>> >>
>> >
>> > I checked with Operations, it's definately NOT tied to the timing of
>> > the
>> > backups. It happened at 2:39am last night, then again 9:47 this
>> > morning.
>> > I can't think of anything we would have that would hit that server,
>> > especially the middle of the night times.
>> >
>> > What exactly is that error saying?
>>
>>
>>