why should i buy visual fox 8

I am a user of visual fox 6.0 and I want a user of visual
8.0 to tell me about the differences and the benefits in
migrating.

Also my sql table get updated with repeated values any
time i upate through foxpro using the tableupdate(.t.)
function. What I'm I doing wrong. I've connected to SQL
using the odbc

Eric
Thu Nov 06 12:58:37 CST 2003

Hello, seth!
You wrote on Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:51:15 -0800:

sa> I am a user of visual fox 6.0 and I want a user of visual
sa> 8.0 to tell me about the differences and the benefits in
sa> migrating.

You may want to check the information on this page.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vfoxpro/productinfo/
--
Eric den Doop
www.foxite.com - The Home Of The Visual FoxPro Experts - Powered By VFP8

Dan
Thu Nov 06 13:03:37 CST 2003

Intellisense, alone, is worth the upgrade. It drives me crazy to go back to
VFP6 these days -- almost as much as going back to FPW bothered me after
working in VFP3 for a year.

Dan

"seth adotey" <sethadotey@worldemail.com> wrote in message
news:023801c3a496$f4968260$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> I am a user of visual fox 6.0 and I want a user of visual
> 8.0 to tell me about the differences and the benefits in
> migrating.
>
> Also my sql table get updated with repeated values any
> time i upate through foxpro using the tableupdate(.t.)
> function. What I'm I doing wrong. I've connected to SQL
> using the odbc

Leemi
Thu Nov 06 13:26:12 CST 2003

Hi Seth:

Another good reason to upgrade to VFP 8.0 is that Microsoft no longer
supports versions of VFP before 7.0.

I hope this helps.

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

Sincerely,
Microsoft FoxPro Technical Support
Lee Mitchell

*-- VFP8 HAS ARRIVED!! --*
Read about all the new features of VFP8 here:
http://www.universalthread.com/VisualFoxPro/News/VFP8Release.asp
Purchase VFP8 here:
http://shop.microsoft.com/Referral/Productinfo.asp?siteID=11518

Keep an eye on the product lifecycle for Visual FoxPro here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?id=fh;[ln];lifeprodv
- VFP5 Mainstream Support retired June 30th, 2003
- VFP6 Mainstream Support retires Sept. 30th, 2003



>Hello, seth!
>You wrote on Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:51:15 -0800:

>sa> I am a user of visual fox 6.0 and I want a user of visual
> sa> 8.0 to tell me about the differences and the benefits in
> sa> migrating.

>You may want to check the information on this page.
>http://msdn.microsoft.com/vfoxpro/productinfo/
>--
>Eric den Doop
>www.foxite.com - The Home Of The Visual FoxPro Experts - Powered By VFP8

Paul
Thu Nov 06 13:55:31 CST 2003

Because Bill needs the money.

Just kidding! VFP8 is better than VFP7 for several reasons, including
stability and new features. The improvement over VFP6 is even greater. Look
at the VFP web site for details. IMO, it's worth the upgrade.


----------------------------
He's spending all his money on a killer house,
With a kitchen crew,
And a bitchin' view!

- Bob Rivers



"seth adotey" <sethadotey@worldemail.com> wrote in message
news:023801c3a496$f4968260$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> I am a user of visual fox 6.0 and I want a user of visual
> 8.0 to tell me about the differences and the benefits in
> migrating.
>
> Also my sql table get updated with repeated values any
> time i upate through foxpro using the tableupdate(.t.)
> function. What I'm I doing wrong. I've connected to SQL
> using the odbc

Jeff
Thu Nov 06 16:02:35 CST 2003

BUT you can't have a client that runs under Win 95 and I still have many Win
95 users.

I'm upgrading them as time and budget allows but until I've gotten rid of my
Win 95 stations I can't put in 8.

Personally I think leaving out the Win 95 client was a mistake.

Jeff
"Paul Pedersen" <prpeders@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:e0L2w$JpDHA.488@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Because Bill needs the money.
>
> Just kidding! VFP8 is better than VFP7 for several reasons, including
> stability and new features. The improvement over VFP6 is even greater.
Look
> at the VFP web site for details. IMO, it's worth the upgrade.
>
>
> ----------------------------
> He's spending all his money on a killer house,
> With a kitchen crew,
> And a bitchin' view!
>
> - Bob Rivers
>
>
>
> "seth adotey" <sethadotey@worldemail.com> wrote in message
> news:023801c3a496$f4968260$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> > I am a user of visual fox 6.0 and I want a user of visual
> > 8.0 to tell me about the differences and the benefits in
> > migrating.
> >
> > Also my sql table get updated with repeated values any
> > time i upate through foxpro using the tableupdate(.t.)
> > function. What I'm I doing wrong. I've connected to SQL
> > using the odbc
>
>

Eric
Fri Nov 07 01:43:29 CST 2003

Hello, Jeff!
You wrote on Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:02:35 -0500:

JG> I'm upgrading them as time and budget allows but until I've gotten rid
JG> of my Win 95 stations I can't put in 8.

I was able to run my VFP apps on Win95. It isn't officially supported
though.

JG> Personally I think leaving out the Win 95 client was a mistake.

Win95 is an obsolete operating system. It is since 12/31/2000.
--
Eric den Doop
www.foxite.com - The Home Of The Visual FoxPro Experts - Powered By VFP8

Mark
Fri Nov 07 08:56:59 CST 2003

That is not true. Development under Win95 is not supported. The runtime
under Win95 does work just fine.

"Jeff Grippe" <jeff@door7.com> wrote in message
news:vqlh1demf39qd4@news.supernews.com...
> BUT you can't have a client that runs under Win 95 and I still have many
Win
> 95 users.
>
> I'm upgrading them as time and budget allows but until I've gotten rid of
my
> Win 95 stations I can't put in 8.
>
> Personally I think leaving out the Win 95 client was a mistake.
>
> Jeff
> "Paul Pedersen" <prpeders@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
> news:e0L2w$JpDHA.488@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Because Bill needs the money.
> >
> > Just kidding! VFP8 is better than VFP7 for several reasons, including
> > stability and new features. The improvement over VFP6 is even greater.
> Look
> > at the VFP web site for details. IMO, it's worth the upgrade.
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------
> > He's spending all his money on a killer house,
> > With a kitchen crew,
> > And a bitchin' view!
> >
> > - Bob Rivers
> >
> >
> >
> > "seth adotey" <sethadotey@worldemail.com> wrote in message
> > news:023801c3a496$f4968260$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> > > I am a user of visual fox 6.0 and I want a user of visual
> > > 8.0 to tell me about the differences and the benefits in
> > > migrating.
> > >
> > > Also my sql table get updated with repeated values any
> > > time i upate through foxpro using the tableupdate(.t.)
> > > function. What I'm I doing wrong. I've connected to SQL
> > > using the odbc
> >
> >
>
>

gerry
Fri Nov 07 08:59:04 CST 2003

it might work - but its not supported.


"Mark McCasland" <mmccasla@airmail.net.invalid> wrote in message
news:%23Ndan9TpDHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> That is not true. Development under Win95 is not supported. The runtime
> under Win95 does work just fine.
>
> "Jeff Grippe" <jeff@door7.com> wrote in message
> news:vqlh1demf39qd4@news.supernews.com...
> > BUT you can't have a client that runs under Win 95 and I still have many
> Win
> > 95 users.
> >
> > I'm upgrading them as time and budget allows but until I've gotten rid
of
> my
> > Win 95 stations I can't put in 8.
> >
> > Personally I think leaving out the Win 95 client was a mistake.
> >
> > Jeff
> > "Paul Pedersen" <prpeders@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
> > news:e0L2w$JpDHA.488@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > Because Bill needs the money.
> > >
> > > Just kidding! VFP8 is better than VFP7 for several reasons, including
> > > stability and new features. The improvement over VFP6 is even greater.
> > Look
> > > at the VFP web site for details. IMO, it's worth the upgrade.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------------
> > > He's spending all his money on a killer house,
> > > With a kitchen crew,
> > > And a bitchin' view!
> > >
> > > - Bob Rivers
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "seth adotey" <sethadotey@worldemail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:023801c3a496$f4968260$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> > > > I am a user of visual fox 6.0 and I want a user of visual
> > > > 8.0 to tell me about the differences and the benefits in
> > > > migrating.
> > > >
> > > > Also my sql table get updated with repeated values any
> > > > time i upate through foxpro using the tableupdate(.t.)
> > > > function. What I'm I doing wrong. I've connected to SQL
> > > > using the odbc
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Paul
Sat Nov 08 19:56:27 CST 2003

Here are more reasons:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;818179




"seth adotey" <sethadotey@worldemail.com> wrote in message
news:023801c3a496$f4968260$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> I am a user of visual fox 6.0 and I want a user of visual
> 8.0 to tell me about the differences and the benefits in
> migrating.
>
> Also my sql table get updated with repeated values any
> time i upate through foxpro using the tableupdate(.t.)
> function. What I'm I doing wrong. I've connected to SQL
> using the odbc

Ken
Sat Nov 08 20:52:09 CST 2003

>Win95 is an obsolete operating system. It is since 12/31/2000.

With all due respect, something is not "obsolete" just because
Microsoft says it is.

<g> Excuse me for getting up on a soapbox about this, but just lately
I've seen and read more of this kind of stuff than I can stand.
Nothing personal is intended toward you, Eric. But I need to get this
off my chest.

In the real world of small businesses and not-for-profit agencies,
operating systems remain in use far, far beyond Microsoft's 5-year
cycle. In fact, they remain in use beyond two or three of those cycles
in many cases. One reason for this is that newer OS's require more
powerful hardware; therefore the upgrade cost is not just that of a
new OS; it includes more memory, and perhaps a new processor==and,
therefore, maybe a new motherboard, and, therefore, maybe a new
computer. Small organizations don't have the budget for that kind of
expense every few years. Nor do they have the in-house expertise for
managing such upgrades.

(Nor, I would add, is there usually any real business need for such
upgrades. If there is a need, it's an artificial, manufactured need
most of the time.That is, Microsoft has produced some new version or
product that won't work on its older operating systems and older
hardware--not because there's anything inherently better about the new
stuff, but because MS is in the business of selling software, and
software doesn't wear out, so you can't get people to buy new
software unless you do stuff that makes the old software stop working.
Or, a piece of hardware breaks and it's discovered that nobody can
supply a replacement because the hardware industry is driven by
Microsoft's product cycle. Therefore an entire new system must be
purchased and, with it--surprise, surprise--a new Microsoft operating
system. But that's another rant for another day.)

It's important that developers understand that it's not all about
large corporations with massive IT budgets that can afford to
implement every new dictate Bill Gates comes out with. There's a huge
market composed of much smaller organizations. Developers who take
Microsoft's product cycle as gospel can't serve that market, though.

And since VFP is particularly well-suited to that market and the kinds
of applications that are needed there, and because really big
corporations generally aren't interested in VFP-based products, such
developers are making a big mistake, IMO.

Ken Dibble
Southern Tier Independence Center

Anthony
Sat Nov 08 21:33:31 CST 2003

Ken Dibble <balderdash@spongemop.com> [WA] wrote:


>With all due respect, something is not "obsolete" just because
>Microsoft says it is.
......etc. etc.

Well said!

regards - anthony shipley

look, ma - no .sig

Ken
Sun Nov 09 19:25:18 CST 2003

On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 11:33:31 +0800, Anthony Shipley --- Remove
NUMERALS to reply <666astech@iinet.net.au> wrote:

>Ken Dibble <balderdash@spongemop.com> [WA] wrote:
>
>
>>With all due respect, something is not "obsolete" just because
>>Microsoft says it is.
>......etc. etc.
>
>Well said!

Thanks! <g>

>regards - anthony shipley
>
>look, ma - no .sig