During this past weekend we had a fairly long maintenance period on a
couple of our Exchange servers and found that some messages coming
from outside of Exchange environment would get bounced back to the
relay server and eventually be deleted with a NDR. I was hoping that
someone may have a solution for this.

Here is the configuration for our Exchange environment.

- We have 3 Exchange servers.
- All incoming email arrives via a PostFix relay server which uses DNS
round robin; MX records point to all three servers.

In this example, what happened was we had two of our AMERICAS servers
offline for maintenance. It was reported to us that some expected
mail that was sent from the internet was never received from the
server which was down for maintenance. I seached for the message in
Message Tracking and discovered the message was bounced between the
online server and the relay. Eventually the message was deleted and a
NDR was sent. For the handful of messages I tracked, it varied from
bouncing back and forth from 2-4 hours and the amount of bounces
varied from around 10-30 bounces.

So the questions are:
- Why doesn't the messages queue up on the online Exchange server?
- Is there a way to configure Exchange not to give up so quickly?

The only thing I can think of that may resolve this is disable Smart
Host before our downtime. Unfortunately I would need a downtime to
test this, we have a lab but we don't have a relay server in our lab
to test this.

Thanks.
-Gene

Re: NDR when server is offline. by Ed

Ed
Wed Mar 12 20:02:33 CDT 2008

It sounds like the Postfix retry period is too short. Normally SMTP servers
are configured to retry for two or three days. Still, I agree with you that
the online server should hold the mail until the down server is back up. I
can't think of any setting that would make the online Exchange server work
any differently.
--
Ed Crowley
MVP - Exchange
"Protecting the world from PSTs and brick backups!"

"Gene Yee" <gyee@sgi.com> wrote in message
news:jdjgt3149serusk1p272jmua3192f9e5mi@4ax.com...
> During this past weekend we had a fairly long maintenance period on a
> couple of our Exchange servers and found that some messages coming
> from outside of Exchange environment would get bounced back to the
> relay server and eventually be deleted with a NDR. I was hoping that
> someone may have a solution for this.
>
> Here is the configuration for our Exchange environment.
>
> - We have 3 Exchange servers.
> - All incoming email arrives via a PostFix relay server which uses DNS
> round robin; MX records point to all three servers.
>
> In this example, what happened was we had two of our AMERICAS servers
> offline for maintenance. It was reported to us that some expected
> mail that was sent from the internet was never received from the
> server which was down for maintenance. I seached for the message in
> Message Tracking and discovered the message was bounced between the
> online server and the relay. Eventually the message was deleted and a
> NDR was sent. For the handful of messages I tracked, it varied from
> bouncing back and forth from 2-4 hours and the amount of bounces
> varied from around 10-30 bounces.
>
> So the questions are:
> - Why doesn't the messages queue up on the online Exchange server?
> - Is there a way to configure Exchange not to give up so quickly?
>
> The only thing I can think of that may resolve this is disable Smart
> Host before our downtime. Unfortunately I would need a downtime to
> test this, we have a lab but we don't have a relay server in our lab
> to test this.
>
> Thanks.
> -Gene



Re: NDR when server is offline. by Gene

Gene
Tue Mar 18 15:02:55 CDT 2008

Unfortunately it is the Exchange server that deleted it and sent the
NDR. Our SMTP Virtual Server is configured to expire in 2 days on our
Exchange server so that shouldn't be a issue.

I am going to build up a second Exchange server and a Postfix server
in our lab so I can reproduce the issue. After I can reproduce the
issue I will be able to do more testing and possibly change the
SmartHost setting to see if it makes a difference.

Thanks.
-Gene

On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:02:33 -0700, "Ed Crowley [MVP]"
<curspice@mvpsnospam.org> wrote:

>It sounds like the Postfix retry period is too short. Normally SMTP servers
>are configured to retry for two or three days. Still, I agree with you that
>the online server should hold the mail until the down server is back up. I
>can't think of any setting that would make the online Exchange server work
>any differently.