Not getting "delivery receipt"

Using Outlook 2003 with Exchange 2003.

If a user requests a "Delivery Receipt" when she sends emails to an outside
address, and then does NOT receive any notification that her email has been
delivered, is that conclusive evidence that her email has in fact NOT been
delivered?

Andy
Fri Mar 14 15:00:04 CDT 2008

On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:43:35 -0500, "OscarVogel" <rtk@divecochran.com>
wrote:

>Using Outlook 2003 with Exchange 2003.
>
>If a user requests a "Delivery Receipt" when she sends emails to an outside
>address, and then does NOT receive any notification that her email has been
>delivered, is that conclusive evidence that her email has in fact NOT been
>delivered?
>


Nope. Its conclusive evidence that delivery receipts and read receipts
can be pretty useless.

PD43
Fri Mar 14 16:17:34 CDT 2008

On Mar 14, 3:00=A0pm, Andy David {MVP}
<ada...@pleasekeepinngcheesebucket.com> wrote:

> Nope. Its conclusive evidence that delivery receipts and read receipts
> can be pretty useless.

To expand...

1) the recipient of your email can easily disable the sending of such
receipts.
2) such receipts are not supported in many email situations.

Lesson: stop obsessing about whether or not your emails are being read.

Ed
Fri Mar 14 16:41:11 CDT 2008

They're not completely useless; they're a positive indicator only. If you
get one, you can be pretty sure the message was delivered, but if you don't
get one you essentially know nothing about the delivery status.
--
Ed Crowley
MVP - Exchange
"Protecting the world from PSTs and brick backups!"

"Andy David {MVP}" <adavid@pleasekeepinngcheesebucket.com> wrote in message
news:l8mlt3d7ff054igrflhqsm8ho0rg1076h7@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:43:35 -0500, "OscarVogel" <rtk@divecochran.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Using Outlook 2003 with Exchange 2003.
>>
>>If a user requests a "Delivery Receipt" when she sends emails to an
>>outside
>>address, and then does NOT receive any notification that her email has
>>been
>>delivered, is that conclusive evidence that her email has in fact NOT been
>>delivered?
>>
>
>
> Nope. Its conclusive evidence that delivery receipts and read receipts
> can be pretty useless.
>
>

Andy
Fri Mar 14 17:32:35 CDT 2008

On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:41:11 -0700, "Ed Crowley [MVP]"
<curspice@mvpsnospam.org> wrote:

>They're not completely useless; they're a positive indicator only. If you
>get one, you can be pretty sure the message was delivered, but if you don't
>get one you essentially know nothing about the delivery status.

Delivered where? A relay can send back a delivery receipt - doesnt
mean it correctly routed that message to its final destination.

Ed
Fri Mar 14 18:58:37 CDT 2008

Delivered to the relay!
--
Ed Crowley
MVP - Exchange
"Protecting the world from PSTs and brick backups!"

"Andy David {MVP}" <adavid@pleasekeepinngcheesebucket.com> wrote in message
news:52vlt3dgfjdjgqo041sj3v0kfb4u8cj7ce@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:41:11 -0700, "Ed Crowley [MVP]"
> <curspice@mvpsnospam.org> wrote:
>
>>They're not completely useless; they're a positive indicator only. If you
>>get one, you can be pretty sure the message was delivered, but if you
>>don't
>>get one you essentially know nothing about the delivery status.
>
> Delivered where? A relay can send back a delivery receipt - doesnt
> mean it correctly routed that message to its final destination.
>
>

Andy
Fri Mar 14 19:13:44 CDT 2008

On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:58:37 -0700, "Ed Crowley [MVP]"
<curspice@mvpsnospam.org> wrote:

>Delivered to the relay!

Doh!