Mac OS X 10.4.3 Only with certain WIFI connections do I have a
problem sending. Receiving messages is never an issue. Messages stay in
outbox until I get to a WIFI locaton that allows messages to send.

Re: Can receive but can't send email by matt

matt
Tue Jan 03 18:28:58 CST 2006

jbmtampa@yahoo.com <jbmtampa@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Mac OS X 10.4.3 Only with certain WIFI connections do I have a
> problem sending. Receiving messages is never an issue. Messages stay in
> outbox until I get to a WIFI locaton that allows messages to send.

This doesn't sound like it has anything to do with Entourage. You are
probably just encountering a server that refuses to relay on the SMTP
port. That's quite common. I think this it usually intended to stop
spammers from hijacking the outgoing server. m.


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Re: Can receive but can't send email by jbmtampa

jbmtampa
Tue Jan 03 19:08:51 CST 2006

Any way to correct?


Re: Can receive but can't send email by (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Corentin_Cras-M=E9neur?=)

(=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Corentin_Cras-M=E9neur?=)
Tue Jan 03 19:17:00 CST 2006

matt neuburg <matt@tidbits.com> wrote:

> jbmtampa@yahoo.com <jbmtampa@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Mac OS X 10.4.3 Only with certain WIFI connections do I have a
> > problem sending. Receiving messages is never an issue. Messages stay in
> > outbox until I get to a WIFI locaton that allows messages to send.
>
> This doesn't sound like it has anything to do with Entourage. You are
> probably just encountering a server that refuses to relay on the SMTP
> port. That's quite common. I think this it usually intended to stop
> spammers from hijacking the outgoing server. m.

Two options:
- use a relay SMTP you have (eg: your IPS SMTP that accepts relaying
providing you authentify properly, .Mac with authentication...)
- activate Postfix o your Mac and use 127.0.0.1 as your SMTP. It has
some limitations though (some mail servers refuse the e-mail once in a
while).
There is a page about Postfix on your Mac on the Entourage FAQ site
http://www.entourage.mvps.org/exchange/postfix.html but it's not up to
date. The up to date version is there:
http://www.cortig.net/wordpress/?p=33
(I'm waiting for the "webmaster" to update the old page).

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Re: Can receive but can't send email by Barry

Barry
Wed Jan 04 07:15:57 CST 2006

On 4/1/06 01:17, in article
1h8ls0v.5kj7clyqv36fN%korventeen@NoSpam.mvps.org, "Corentin Cras-Méneur"
<korventeen@NoSpam.mvps.org> wrote:

> matt neuburg <matt@tidbits.com> wrote:
>
>> jbmtampa@yahoo.com <jbmtampa@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Mac OS X 10.4.3 Only with certain WIFI connections do I have a
>>> problem sending. Receiving messages is never an issue. Messages stay in
>>> outbox until I get to a WIFI locaton that allows messages to send.
>>
>> This doesn't sound like it has anything to do with Entourage. You are
>> probably just encountering a server that refuses to relay on the SMTP
>> port. That's quite common. I think this it usually intended to stop
>> spammers from hijacking the outgoing server. m.
>
> Two options:
> - use a relay SMTP you have (eg: your IPS SMTP that accepts relaying
> providing you authentify properly, .Mac with authentication...)

If you have a dot mac account, this is the easy way to go - simply set up
your outgoing mail server to smtp.mac.com and in the 'advanced sending
options' turn ON authentication (same as receiving mail server).

Note that some ISPs block traffic to other mail servers, and that dot mac
will ONLY accept mail for delivery that uses a dot mac sender address, so
you can't send your business mail through that server.

> - activate Postfix o your Mac and use 127.0.0.1 as your SMTP. It has
> some limitations though (some mail servers refuse the e-mail once in a
> while).

I highly recommend the use of Postfix Enabler. It makes it so much easier. I
also use the word 'localhost' instead of '127.0.0.1' simply because it loks
so much neater :)

I have only come across two domains that block traffic routed through
postfix on my machine - AOL & Microsoft!


> There is a page about Postfix on your Mac on the Entourage FAQ site
> http://www.entourage.mvps.org/exchange/postfix.html but it's not up to
> date. The up to date version is there:
> http://www.cortig.net/wordpress/?p=33

Your pages refer to 'exchange server' - I would point out that postfix can
be used to replace any type of mail server, you don't need to be running an
exchaneg account to use it (or need it!).

> (I'm waiting for the "webmaster" to update the old page).

Web-mistress in this case - Diane has been unwell recently and has not had
much time to keep the site up to date.

>
> Corentin

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Re: Can receive but can't send email by matt

matt
Wed Jan 04 11:20:48 CST 2006

Barry Wainwright [MVP] <barry@mvps.org.INVALID> wrote:

> On 4/1/06 01:17, in article
> 1h8ls0v.5kj7clyqv36fN%korventeen@NoSpam.mvps.org, "Corentin Cras-Méneur"
> <korventeen@NoSpam.mvps.org> wrote:
>
> > matt neuburg <matt@tidbits.com> wrote:
> >
> >> jbmtampa@yahoo.com <jbmtampa@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Mac OS X 10.4.3 Only with certain WIFI connections do I have a
> >>> problem sending. Receiving messages is never an issue. Messages stay in
> >>> outbox until I get to a WIFI locaton that allows messages to send.
> >>
> >> This doesn't sound like it has anything to do with Entourage. You are
> >> probably just encountering a server that refuses to relay on the SMTP
> >> port. That's quite common. I think this it usually intended to stop
> >> spammers from hijacking the outgoing server. m.
> >
> > Two options:
> > - use a relay SMTP you have (eg: your IPS SMTP that accepts relaying
> > providing you authentify properly, .Mac with authentication...)
>
> If you have a dot mac account, this is the easy way to go - simply set up
> your outgoing mail server to smtp.mac.com and in the 'advanced sending
> options' turn ON authentication (same as receiving mail server).

Another possibility is that your existing ISP may have a webmail
facility. It's pretty awful doing email in a web browser but it's better
than nothing. At that point, this is *really* not an Entourage matter.
m.

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Re: Can receive but can't send email by (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Corentin_Cras-M=E9neur?=)

(=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Corentin_Cras-M=E9neur?=)
Wed Jan 04 15:51:50 CST 2006

Barry Wainwright [MVP] <barry@mvps.org.INVALID> wrote:

> > - activate Postfix o your Mac and use 127.0.0.1 as your SMTP. It has
> > some limitations though (some mail servers refuse the e-mail once in a
> > while).
>
> I highly recommend the use of Postfix Enabler. It makes it so much easier. I
> also use the word 'localhost' instead of '127.0.0.1' simply because it loks
> so much neater :)

Postfix enabler is nice, but it's shareware. You can do the same thing
for free by modifying a simple file. Unless you want to play with all
the extra parameters that Postfix enabler give you access to , I don't
really see why you should pay for this one,

> I have only come across two domains that block traffic routed through
> postfix on my machine - AOL & Microsoft!


Yep, it happens.
I have an alternate option I just remembered for these cases. You can
use WifiSMTP:
http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/20080
This app will attempt to find out what ISP your wifi network uses and
tell you what's their SMTP. I've had some success with it.

> > There is a page about Postfix on your Mac on the Entourage FAQ site
> > http://www.entourage.mvps.org/exchange/postfix.html but it's not up to
> > date. The up to date version is there:
> > http://www.cortig.net/wordpress/?p=33
>
> Your pages refer to 'exchange server' - I would point out that postfix can
> be used to replace any type of mail server, you don't need to be running an
> exchaneg account to use it (or need it!).

Very true. SMTP is SMTP. The page was originally written for Exchange
accounts when we had problems posting through them in Office X, but the
trick is exactly the same. You enable postfix and from then on you can
use 127.0.0.1 as your SMTP server.
>
> > (I'm waiting for the "webmaster" to update the old page).
>
> Web-mistress in this case - Diane has been unwell recently and has not had
> much time to keep the site up to date.


I know, I know, and I sure don't blame her for not posting it. I'm just
saying "it's not yet on the official site".
I just posted it on another site temporarely in the meanwhile and I'll
probably remove it from my site as soon as it makes it on the MVPs.org
site.


Corentin

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