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iMac OS X 10.4.11
Entourage X v. 10.1.6

The Bcc feature doesn't seem to be doing what I expected it to be doing.

I send out an e-mail with my address in the "To:" address box and multiple
addresses of other recipients in the Bcc field.

When responses to my e-mail come back to me some of the incoming e-mails
show my address in the "To:" box and others come back showing every address
that I entered in the Bcc field in the "To:" field.

All the time that I have been using Bcc I was under the impression that
everyone receiving that e-mail would not even know that it had been sent to
anyone else.

Why would some people see all the other recipients and others can't? And
what can I do to make sure that Bcc does what it's intended to do? Or have I
been expecting too much?




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Re: Bcc question by Jolly

Jolly
Mon Jul 21 19:46:47 CDT 2008

In article <C4AA929A.323E1%r.schlemmernospam@comcast.net>,
Roger Schlemmer <r.schlemmernospam@comcast.net> wrote:

> iMac OS X 10.4.11
> Entourage X v. 10.1.6
>
> The Bcc feature doesn't seem to be doing what I expected it to be doing.
>
> I send out an e-mail with my address in the "To:" address box and multiple
> addresses of other recipients in the Bcc field.
>
> When responses to my e-mail come back to me some of the incoming e-mails
> show my address in the "To:" box and others come back showing every address
> that I entered in the Bcc field in the "To:" field.

I find that very strange. Who runs your email server?

> All the time that I have been using Bcc I was under the impression that
> everyone receiving that e-mail would not even know that it had been sent to
> anyone else.
>
> Why would some people see all the other recipients and others can't? And
> what can I do to make sure that Bcc does what it's intended to do? Or have I
> been expecting too much?

When you receive the message you sent, and you examine the source of the
message, does it show the other addresses in the source?

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Re: Bcc question by Barry

Barry
Tue Jul 22 02:48:44 CDT 2008

In article <C4AA929A.323E1%r.schlemmernospam@comcast.net>,
Roger Schlemmer <r.schlemmernospam@comcast.net> wrote:

> iMac OS X 10.4.11
> Entourage X v. 10.1.6
>
> The Bcc feature doesn't seem to be doing what I expected it to be doing.
>
> I send out an e-mail with my address in the "To:" address box and multiple
> addresses of other recipients in the Bcc field.
>
> When responses to my e-mail come back to me some of the incoming e-mails
> show my address in the "To:" box and others come back showing every address
> that I entered in the Bcc field in the "To:" field.
>
> All the time that I have been using Bcc I was under the impression that
> everyone receiving that e-mail would not even know that it had been sent to
> anyone else.
>
> Why would some people see all the other recipients and others can't? And
> what can I do to make sure that Bcc does what it's intended to do? Or have I
> been expecting too much?

AOL used to do this - put all the BCC addresses in an 'apparently-to'
header.

This is in direct contravention of the mail exchange protocols and the
ISP responsible is at fault.

Itisn't Entourage's fault, and the same would happen to any mail client
you use to send BCC to those addresses.

--
Barry Wainwright
Microsoft MVP

Re: Bcc question by Adam

Adam
Tue Jul 22 06:04:47 CDT 2008

Barry Wainwright <barry@mvps.org.INVALID> wrote:
> AOL used to do this - put all the BCC addresses in an 'apparently-to'
> header.

If you didn't have a TO or CC recipient, as necessitated by the standards.
We're also talking over 10 years ago.

--
Adam Bailey | Chicago, Illinois
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adamkb@aol.com | http://www.lull.org/adam/

Re: Bcc question by Linotype

Linotype
Tue Jul 22 09:22:47 CDT 2008

On Jul 21, 7:46=A0pm, Jolly Roger <jollyro...@pobox.com> wrote:
> In article <C4AA929A.323E1%r.schlemmernos...@comcast.net>,
> =A0Roger Schlemmer <r.schlemmernos...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > iMac OS X 10.4.11
> > Entourage X v. 10.1.6
>
> > The Bcc feature doesn't seem to be doing what I expected it to be doing=
.
>
> > I send out an e-mail with my address in the "To:" address box and multi=
ple
> > addresses of other recipients in the Bcc field.
>
> > When responses to my e-mail come back to me some of the incoming e-mail=
s
> > show my address in the "To:" box and others come back showing every add=
ress
> > that I entered in the Bcc field in the "To:" field.
>
> I find that very strange. Who runs your email server?

Comcast is my ISP.


> > All the time that I have been using Bcc I was under the impression that
> > everyone receiving that e-mail would not even know that it had been sen=
t to
> > anyone else.
>
> > Why would some people see all the other recipients and others can't? An=
d
> > what can I do to make sure that Bcc does what it's intended to do? Or h=
ave I
> > been expecting too much?
>
> When you receive the message you sent, and you examine the source of the
> message, does it show the other addresses in the source?


yes, that's what I meant. In the e-mail response are all the addresses
just like I had them in the Bcc field when I sent out the original.
But that doesn't happen with every response, some only show my address
as the "To:" address and there are no addresses from the Bcc field
visible.



> Send responses to the relevant news group rather than to me, as
> E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM
> filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting
> messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google
> Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts.
>
> JR


Re: Bcc question by Jolly

Jolly
Tue Jul 22 15:36:09 CDT 2008

In article
<3063e35b-1b1d-4cf3-810f-5ab70af48298@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
Linotype <r.schlemmer@comcast.net> wrote:

> On Jul 21, 7:46 pm, Jolly Roger <jollyro...@pobox.com> wrote:
> > In article <C4AA929A.323E1%r.schlemmernos...@comcast.net>,
> >  Roger Schlemmer <r.schlemmernos...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > > iMac OS X 10.4.11
> > > Entourage X v. 10.1.6
> >
> > > The Bcc feature doesn't seem to be doing what I expected it to be doing.
> >
> > > I send out an e-mail with my address in the "To:" address box and
> > > multiple
> > > addresses of other recipients in the Bcc field.
> >
> > > When responses to my e-mail come back to me some of the incoming e-mails
> > > show my address in the "To:" box and others come back showing every
> > > address
> > > that I entered in the Bcc field in the "To:" field.
> >
> > I find that very strange. Who runs your email server?
>
> Comcast is my ISP.
>
> > > All the time that I have been using Bcc I was under the impression that
> > > everyone receiving that e-mail would not even know that it had been sent
> > > to
> > > anyone else.
> >
> > > Why would some people see all the other recipients and others can't? And
> > > what can I do to make sure that Bcc does what it's intended to do? Or
> > > have I
> > > been expecting too much?
> >
> > When you receive the message you sent, and you examine the source of the
> > message, does it show the other addresses in the source?
>
> yes, that's what I meant. In the e-mail response are all the addresses
> just like I had them in the Bcc field when I sent out the original.
> But that doesn't happen with every response, some only show my address
> as the "To:" address and there are no addresses from the Bcc field
> visible.

Very strange. It's the emil server's responsibility to remove BCC
headers. So I would suspect a problem with the Comcast email server.

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