Is there a way to change my new email default background color from white
to something else

Re: change default background color by Paul

Paul
Thu Jul 15 05:30:02 CDT 2004

On 7/14/04 11:24 PM, in article 2a8501c46a34$5d375ed0$3501280a@phx.gbl,
"Mark" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> Is there a way to change my new email default background color from white
> to something else

In HTML, yes. (Nobody much will want to receive these, though, but that's
your business.) Click the "abab" button in the lower message toolbar,
Format/HTML menu item. Then click and hold the button second from right edge
in the same toolbar to get lurid background colors, or any that take your
fancy.

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Re: change default background color by Barry

Barry
Thu Jul 15 07:06:23 CDT 2004

On 15/7/04 11:30 am, in article BD1BAABA.6C085%berkowit@spoof_silcom.com,
"Paul Berkowitz" <berkowit@spoof_silcom.com> wrote:

> On 7/14/04 11:24 PM, in article 2a8501c46a34$5d375ed0$3501280a@phx.gbl,
> "Mark" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>> Is there a way to change my new email default background color from white
>> to something else
>
> In HTML, yes. (Nobody much will want to receive these, though, but that's
> your business.) Click the "abab" button in the lower message toolbar,
> Format/HTML menu item. Then click and hold the button second from right edge
> in the same toolbar to get lurid background colors, or any that take your
> fancy.

Note that this will only work on a message-by-message basis. To do something
a bit more permanent, get Paul's Message Template script:

<http://www.scriptbuilders.net/category.php?id=1456>

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Re: change default background color by Bill

Bill
Thu Jul 15 07:13:38 CDT 2004

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Paul -


I know you don't like background colors, but can you take a minute and
explain why?

I think it must be something more than aesthetics?


Best,


- Bill


On 7/15/04 3:30 AM, in article BD1BAABA.6C085%berkowit@spoof_silcom.com,
"Paul Berkowitz" <berkowit@spoof_silcom.com> wrote:

> On 7/14/04 11:24 PM, in article 2a8501c46a34$5d375ed0$3501280a@phx.gbl,
> "Mark" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>> Is there a way to change my new email default background color from white
>> to something else
>
> In HTML, yes. (Nobody much will want to receive these, though, but that's
> your business.) Click the "abab" button in the lower message toolbar,
> Format/HTML menu item. Then click and hold the button second from right edge
> in the same toolbar to get lurid background colors, or any that take your
> fancy.


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<BR>
<BR>
I know you don't like background colors, but can you take a minute and expl=
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<BR>
I think it must be something more than aesthetics?<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Best,<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
&nbsp;- Bill<BR>
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&gt; &quot;Mark&quot; &lt;anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com&gt; wrote:<BR=
>
&gt; <BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#808000">&gt;&gt; Is there a way to change my new email=
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&gt;&gt; to something else<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#00560B">&gt; <BR>
&gt; In HTML, yes. (Nobody much will want to receive these, though, but tha=
t's<BR>
&gt; your business.) Click the &quot;abab&quot; button in the lower message=
toolbar,<BR>
&gt; Format/HTML menu item. Then click and hold the button second from righ=
t edge<BR>
&gt; in the same toolbar to get lurid background colors, or any that take y=
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Re: change default background color by Paul

Paul
Thu Jul 15 15:32:13 CDT 2004

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No, I can't rally explain it, Bill. It's just subjective. Partly it's hard
to get a color light enough to read the grey print over it. So-called black
text is not black like printed text unless you use special fonts (like you
do) or bold, making text look bulkier. So the background has to be really,
really light for me to read clearly over it and tolerate it. This here is
about the maximum, actually maybe over the maximum, and I had to really
fiddle with it. It's less than a milimetre off-centre in the Color picker,
and lightest possible grayscale. Anything stronger than this I find a)
objectively, hard to read and b) subjectively, lurid and off-putting. I
guess I like colors - especially stronger colors - only for highlights.

I have often defended people who like HTML when they manage to make their
formatting what I find to be tasteful. Formatting - use of bold, italics,
sparing use of color as identifier or for emphasis, and structured white
space - can not only be pleasing but also help meaning get across. I just
don't find that background color helps meaning in the slightest, and most
backgrounds I do not find tasteful. I think that's because - unlike white
space which offsets the text in front - colored space is a distraction from
the text in front, and runs the danger of obscuring.

Overwhelming all these considerations, however, is that fact that 90% of
messages I have ever received with background color have been those default
options easily available by a single click, almost all 10 times too bright
for me. Lurid (as I've said a few times). Even "Parchment" is about 10 times
stronger than what I'm using here, let alone Seafoam or Purple or Yellow...
It's just an unpleasant distraction most of the time. IMO.

--
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From: Bill Weylock <bill@nospam.net>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.mac.office.entourage
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 05:13:38 -0700
Subject: Re: change default background color

Paul -


I know you don't like background colors, but can you take a minute and
explain why?

I think it must be something more than aesthetics?


Best,


- Bill


On 7/15/04 3:30 AM, in article BD1BAABA.6C085%berkowit@spoof_silcom.com,
"Paul Berkowitz" <berkowit@spoof_silcom.com> wrote:

> On 7/14/04 11:24 PM, in article 2a8501c46a34$5d375ed0$3501280a@phx.gbl,
> "Mark" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>> Is there a way to change my new email default background color from white
>> to something else
>
> In HTML, yes. (Nobody much will want to receive these, though, but that's
> your business.) Click the "abab" button in the lower message toolbar,
> Format/HTML menu item. Then click and hold the button second from right edge
> in the same toolbar to get lurid background colors, or any that take your
> fancy.



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<FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:12.0px'>No, I=
can't rally explain it, Bill. It's just subjective. Partly it's hard to get=
a color light enough to read the grey print over it. So-called black text i=
s not black like printed text unless you use special fonts (like you do) or =
bold, making text look bulkier. So the background has to be really, really l=
ight for me to read clearly over it and tolerate it. This here is about the =
maximum, actually maybe over the maximum, and I had to really fiddle with it=
. It's less than a milimetre off-centre in the Color picker, and lightest po=
ssible grayscale. Anything stronger than this I find a) objectively, hard to=
read and b) subjectively, lurid and off-putting. I guess I like colors - es=
pecially stronger colors - only for highlights.<BR>
<BR>
I have often defended people who like HTML when they manage to make their f=
ormatting what I find to be tasteful. Formatting - use of bold, italics, spa=
ring use of color as identifier or for emphasis, and structured white space =
&nbsp;- can not only be pleasing but also help meaning get across. I just do=
n't find that background color helps meaning in the slightest, and most back=
grounds I do not find tasteful. I think that's because - unlike white space =
which offsets the text in front - colored space is a distraction <I>from</I>=
the text in front, and runs the danger of obscuring.<BR>
<BR>
Overwhelming all these considerations, however, is that fact that 90% of me=
ssages I have ever received with background color have been those default op=
tions easily available by a single click, almost all 10 times too bright for=
me. Lurid (as I've said a few times). Even &quot;Parchment&quot; is about 1=
0 times stronger than what I'm using here, let alone Seafoam or Purple or Ye=
llow... It's just an unpleasant distraction most of the time. IMO.<BR>
<BR>
-- <BR>
Paul Berkowitz<BR>
MVP Entourage<BR>
Entourage FAQ Page: <a href=3D"http://www.entourage.mvps.org/faq/index.html">=
&lt;http://www.entourage.mvps.org/faq/index.html&gt;</a><BR>
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<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:12.0px'><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080"><FONT FA=
CE=3D"Futura, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial">Paul -<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
I know you don't like background colors, but can you take a minute and expl=
ain why?<BR>
<BR>
I think it must be something more than aesthetics?<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Best,<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
&nbsp;- Bill<BR>
</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Futura, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR>
<BR>
On 7/15/04 3:30 AM, in article BD1BAABA.6C085%berkowit@spoof_silcom.com, &q=
uot;Paul Berkowitz&quot; &lt;berkowit@spoof_silcom.com&gt; wrote:<BR>
<BR>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#00560B">&gt; On 7/14/04 11:24 PM, in article 2a8501c46a34$5d3=
75ed0$3501280a@phx.gbl,<BR>
&gt; &quot;Mark&quot; &lt;anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com&gt; wrote:<BR=
>
&gt; <BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#808000">&gt;&gt; Is there a way to change my new email=
default background color from white<BR>
&gt;&gt; to something else<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#00560B">&gt; <BR>
&gt; In HTML, yes. (Nobody much will want to receive these, though, but tha=
t's<BR>
&gt; your business.) Click the &quot;abab&quot; button in the lower message=
toolbar,<BR>
&gt; Format/HTML menu item. Then click and hold the button second from righ=
t edge<BR>
&gt; in the same toolbar to get lurid background colors, or any that take y=
our<BR>
&gt; fancy.<BR>
</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR>
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Re: change default background color by Bill

Bill
Thu Jul 15 16:01:36 CDT 2004

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That¹s actually the way I feel about it.

The color you came up with is about what I would choose....

Maybe a little less red... :)

And you¹re right that your text is harder to read than I would like because
of the background.

I thought maybe it added a lot of bytes to the messages as well.

Thanks for the explanation. Get it totally.


Best,


- Bill




On 7/15/04 1:32 PM, in article BD1C37DD.6C161%berkowit@spoof_silcom.com,
"Paul Berkowitz" <berkowit@spoof_silcom.com> wrote:

> No, I can't rally explain it, Bill. It's just subjective. Partly it's hard to
> get a color light enough to read the grey print over it. So-called black text
> is not black like printed text unless you use special fonts (like you do) or
> bold, making text look bulkier. So the background has to be really, really
> light for me to read clearly over it and tolerate it. This here is about the
> maximum, actually maybe over the maximum, and I had to really fiddle with it.
> It's less than a milimetre off-centre in the Color picker, and lightest po
> ssible grayscale. Anything stronger than this I find a) objectively, hard to
> read and b) subjectively, lurid and off-putting. I guess I like colors -
> especially stronger colors - only for highlights.
>
> I have often defended people who like HTML when they manage to make their
> formatting what I find to be tasteful. Formatting - use of bold, italics,
> sparing use of color as identifier or for emphasis, and structured white space
> - can not only be pleasing but also help meaning get across. I just don't find
> that background color helps meaning in the slightest, and most backgrounds I
> do not find tasteful. I think that's because - unlike white space which
> offsets the text in front - colored space is a distraction from the text in
> front, and runs the danger of obscuring.
>
> Overwhelming all these considerations, however, is that fact that 90% of
> messages I have ever received with background color have been those default
> options easily available by a single click, almost all 10 times too bright for
> me. Lurid (as I've said a few times). Even "Parchment" is about 10 times
> stronger than what I'm using here, let alone Seafoam or Purple or Yellow...
> It's just an unpleasant distraction most of the time. IMO.



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<FONT COLOR=3D"#000080"><FONT FACE=3D"Futura, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN =
STYLE=3D'font-size:12.0px'>That&#8217;s actually the way I feel about it.<BR>
<BR>
The color you came up with is about what I would choose....<BR>
<BR>
Maybe a little less red... :)<BR>
<BR>
And you&#8217;re right that &nbsp;your text is harder to read than I would =
like because of the background.<BR>
<BR>
I thought maybe it added a lot of bytes to the messages as well.<BR>
<BR>
Thanks for the explanation. Get it totally.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Best,<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
&nbsp;- Bill<BR>
<BR>
</SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Futura, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN S=
TYLE=3D'font-size:12.0px'><BR>
<BR>
<BR>
On 7/15/04 1:32 PM, in article BD1C37DD.6C161%berkowit@spoof_silcom.com, &q=
uot;Paul Berkowitz&quot; &lt;berkowit@spoof_silcom.com&gt; wrote:<BR>
<BR>
</SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:12.0px'><FONT FACE=3D"Verdan=
a, Helvetica, Arial">No, I can't rally explain it, Bill. It's just subjectiv=
e. Partly it's hard to get a color light enough to read the grey print over =
it. So-called black text is not black like printed text unless you use speci=
al fonts (like you do) or bold, making text look bulkier. So the background =
has to be really, really light for me to read clearly over it and tolerate i=
t. This here is about the maximum, actually maybe over the maximum, and I ha=
d to really fiddle with it. It's less than a milimetre off-centre in the Col=
or picker, and lightest po ssible grayscale. Anything stronger than this I f=
ind a) objectively, hard to read and b) subjectively, lurid and off-putting.=
I guess I like colors - especially stronger colors - only for highlights.<B=
R>
<BR>
I have often defended people who like HTML when they manage to make their f=
ormatting what I find to be tasteful. Formatting - use of bold, italics, spa=
ring use of color as identifier or for emphasis, and structured white space =
&nbsp;- can not only be pleasing but also help meaning get across. I just do=
n't find that background color helps meaning in the slightest, and most back=
grounds I do not find tasteful. I think that's because - unlike white space =
which offsets the text in front - colored space is a distraction <I>from</I>=
the text in front, and runs the danger of obscuring.<BR>
<BR>
Overwhelming all these considerations, however, is that fact that 90% of me=
ssages I have ever received with background color have been those default op=
tions easily available by a single click, almost all 10 times too bright for=
me. Lurid (as I've said a few times). Even &quot;Parchment&quot; is about 1=
0 times stronger than what I'm using here, let alone Seafoam or Purple or Ye=
llow... It's just an unpleasant distraction most of the time. IMO.<BR>
</FONT></SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:12.0px'><FONT FACE=3D"Verda=
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Re: change default background color by Barry

Barry
Fri Jul 16 11:06:17 CDT 2004

On 15/7/04 10:01 pm, in article BD1C3EC0.194A7%bill@nospam.net, "Bill
Weylock" <bill@nospam.net> wrote:

> I thought maybe it added a lot of bytes to the messages as well.

Very little. It changes this:

<BODY>


Into this:

<BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#FFFBF1">

That's all!

--
Barry Wainwright
Microsoft MVP (see http://mvp.support.microsoft.com for details)
Seen the All-New Entourage Help Pages? - Check them out:
<http://www.entourage.mvps.org/>