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I have several signatures, of which a couple are set up to use automatically
when creating outgoing messages from certain accounts ­ for example, my
signature below is automatically created when I send a message to this
newsgroup.

I have noticed a strange bug (?), whereby, when I open certain (only
recently created? not sure) CALENDAR EVENTS, their Notes contain one of my
default signatures, which is, obviously, a minor nuisance. What on earth
could be telling Entourage to do this? I have never even heard of
signatures being somehow associated with calendar events. Has anyone seen
this? Thanks for your help.

--
Ignat Solzhenitsyn
Entourage 11.0.0 -- Mac OS 10.3.4
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<BR>
-- <BR>
Ignat Solzhenitsyn<BR>
Entourage 11.0.0 -- Mac OS 10.3.4<BR>
PowerBook G4 15-inch 1.25 GHz &#8220;AluBook&#8221;<BR>
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Re: calendar/signature bug? by Ignat

Ignat
Tue Jun 08 10:16:55 CDT 2004

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P.S. Once I delete the signature from event¹s notes, save it, and close it,
and open that event again ­ the signature is back. It can¹t be killed, it
seems.


on 6/8/04 10.59, in article BCEB4C8B.7FAD%isolzh@spoof_mac.com, Ignat
Solzhenitsyn isolzh@spoof_mac.com wrote:

> I have several signatures, of which a couple are set up to use automatically
> when creating outgoing messages from certain accounts ­ for example, my
> signature below is automatically created when I send a message to this
> newsgroup.
>
> I have noticed a strange bug (?), whereby, when I open certain (only recently
> created? not sure) CALENDAR EVENTS, their Notes contain one of my default
> signatures, which is, obviously, a minor nuisance. What on earth could be
> telling Entourage to do this? I have never even heard of signatures being
> somehow associated with calendar events. Has anyone seen this? Thanks for
> your help.


--
Ignat Solzhenitsyn
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PowerBook G4 15-inch 1.25 GHz ³AluBook²
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<BR>
<BR>
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enitsyn isolzh@spoof_mac.com wrote:<BR>
<BR>
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&#8211; for example, my signature below is automatically created when I send=
a message to this newsgroup.<BR>
<BR>
I have noticed a strange bug (?), whereby, when I open certain (only recent=
ly created? not sure) CALENDAR EVENTS, their Notes contain one of my default=
signatures, which is, obviously, a minor nuisance. &nbsp;What on earth coul=
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Entourage 11.0.0 -- Mac OS 10.3.4<BR>
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Re: calendar/signature bug? by Barry

Barry
Tue Jun 08 10:43:25 CDT 2004

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It is possibly an early sign of mild database corruption.

Office vX:
Hold down the option key when starting Entourage and take the first option
('typical rebuild'). If this doesn¹t resolve the problems, then try an
?Advanced Rebuild¹.

Office 2004:
You still call the rebuilder by holding down Option key at launch, but it
now brings up a separate app "Database Utility" (which could be launched by
double-clicking of you wish) that lives in the Office subfolder.

First of all, if you have any Office apps open, a dialog comes up that
offers to quit them.

Then you get a window with a list of your identities to select from, and
four options:

1) It has a new feature "Verify database integrity" option: this should
reduce unnecessary rebuilding. Apparently it's quite sensitive. And see 4)
below.

2) "Compact the database". (Like X's "Typical rebuild").

3) Rebuild the database. (Like X's "Advanced Rebuild")

4) "Set database preferences". Actually there's only one pref: you can turn
on "Verify database in background "which means "run automatically" and let
you know if your database needs rebuilding.





--
Barry Wainwright
Microsoft MVP (see http://mvp.support.microsoft.com for details)
Seen the All-New Entourage Help Pages? - Check them out:
<http://www.entourage.mvps.org/>



From: Ignat Solzhenitsyn <isolzh@spoof_mac.com>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.mac.office.entourage
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 10:59:23 -0400
Subject: calendar/signature bug?

I have several signatures, of which a couple are set up to use automatically
when creating outgoing messages from certain accounts ­ for example, my
signature below is automatically created when I send a message to this
newsgroup.

I have noticed a strange bug (?), whereby, when I open certain (only
recently created? not sure) CALENDAR EVENTS, their Notes contain one of my
default signatures, which is, obviously, a minor nuisance. What on earth
could be telling Entourage to do this? I have never even heard of
signatures being somehow associated with calendar events. Has anyone seen
this? Thanks for your help.

--
Ignat Solzhenitsyn
Entourage 11.0.0 -- Mac OS 10.3.4
PowerBook G4 15-inch 1.25 GHz ³AluBook²
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<FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:12.0px'>It is=
possibly an early sign of mild database corruption.<BR>
<BR>
Office vX:<BR>
Hold down the option key when starting Entourage and take the first option<=
BR>
('typical rebuild'). If this doesn&#8217;t resolve the problems, then try a=
n &#8216;Advanced Rebuild&#8217;.<BR>
<BR>
Office 2004:<BR>
You still call the rebuilder by holding down Option key at launch, but it<B=
R>
now brings up a separate app &quot;Database Utility&quot; (which could be l=
aunched by<BR>
double-clicking of you wish) that lives in the Office subfolder.<BR>
<BR>
First of all, if you have any Office apps open, a dialog comes up that<BR>
offers to quit them.<BR>
<BR>
Then you get a window with a list of your identities to select from, and<BR=
>
four options:<BR>
<BR>
1) It has a new feature &quot;Verify database integrity&quot; option: this =
should<BR>
reduce unnecessary rebuilding. Apparently it's quite sensitive. And see 4)<=
BR>
below.<BR>
<BR>
2) &quot;Compact the database&quot;. (Like X's &quot;Typical rebuild&quot;)=
.<BR>
<BR>
3) Rebuild the database. (Like X's &quot;Advanced Rebuild&quot;)<BR>
<BR>
4) &quot;Set database preferences&quot;. &nbsp;Actually there's only one pr=
ef: you can turn<BR>
on &quot;Verify database in background &quot;which means &quot;run automati=
cally&quot; and let<BR>
you know if your database needs rebuilding.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
-- <BR>
Barry Wainwright<BR>
Microsoft MVP (see <a href=3D"http://mvp.support.microsoft.com">http://mvp.su=
pport.microsoft.com</a> for details)<BR>
Seen the All-New Entourage Help Pages? - Check them out:<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;http://www.entourage.mv=
ps.org/&gt;<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<HR ALIGN=3DCENTER SIZE=3D"3" WIDTH=3D"95%"><B>From: </B>Ignat Solzhenitsyn &lt;i=
solzh@spoof_mac.com&gt;<BR>
<B>Newsgroups: </B>microsoft.public.mac.office.entourage<BR>
<B>Date: </B>Tue, 08 Jun 2004 10:59:23 -0400<BR>
<B>Subject: </B>calendar/signature bug?<BR>
<BR>
I have several signatures, of which a couple are set up to use automaticall=
y when creating outgoing messages from certain accounts &#8211; for example,=
my signature below is automatically created when I send a message to this n=
ewsgroup.<BR>
<BR>
I have noticed a strange bug (?), whereby, when I open certain (only recent=
ly created? not sure) CALENDAR EVENTS, their Notes contain one of my default=
signatures, which is, obviously, a minor nuisance. &nbsp;What on earth coul=
d be telling Entourage to do this? &nbsp;&nbsp;I have never even heard of si=
gnatures being somehow associated with calendar events. &nbsp;Has anyone see=
n this? &nbsp;Thanks for your help.<BR>
<BR>
-- <BR>
Ignat Solzhenitsyn<BR>
Entourage 11.0.0 -- Mac OS 10.3.4<BR>
PowerBook G4 15-inch 1.25 GHz &#8220;AluBook&#8221;<BR>
Palm OS 5.1 -- Palm Tungsten T3<BR>
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Re: calendar/signature bug? by Paul

Paul
Tue Jun 08 12:05:43 CDT 2004

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Calendar event windows are actually a sort of subclass of new message
windows, since they can also be sent as invitations. Note that the title
field is even called "Subject", the "Invite" button opens a "To:" field box
and a "Send Now" button, allows you to insert a signature, etc. Evidently
Entourage has become a bit confused and thinks that it already needs a
signature. As Barry says, you need to rebuild. Note that Entourage 2004 now
calls what used to be "Typical Rebuild" a "Compact" to reflect the fact that
it really doesn't do much rebuilding - it just removes empty spaces and
re-orders lists, which would probably not be good enough here. Do a
"Rebuild" (formerly known as "Advanced Rebuild") but which is not only
better but faster in 2004. (Or if you find that "Compact" works, please let
us know.)

--
Paul Berkowitz
MVP Entourage
Entourage FAQ Page: <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/faq/index.html>
AppleScripts for Entourage: <http://macscripter.net/scriptbuilders/>

Please "Reply To Newsgroup" to reply to this message. Emails will be
ignored.

PLEASE always state which version of Entourage you are using - **2004**, X
or 2001. It's often impossible to answer your questions otherwise.



From: Ignat Solzhenitsyn <isolzh@spoof_mac.com>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.mac.office.entourage
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 11:16:55 -0400
Subject: Re: calendar/signature bug?

P.S. Once I delete the signature from event¹s notes, save it, and close it,
and open that event again ­ the signature is back. It can¹t be killed, it
seems.


on 6/8/04 10.59, in article BCEB4C8B.7FAD%isolzh@spoof_mac.com, Ignat
Solzhenitsyn isolzh@spoof_mac.com wrote:

> I have several signatures, of which a couple are set up to use automatically
> when creating outgoing messages from certain accounts ­ for example, my
> signature below is automatically created when I send a message to this
> newsgroup.
>
> I have noticed a strange bug (?), whereby, when I open certain (only recently
> created? not sure) CALENDAR EVENTS, their Notes contain one of my default
> signatures, which is, obviously, a minor nuisance. What on earth could be
> telling Entourage to do this? I have never even heard of signatures being
> somehow associated with calendar events. Has anyone seen this? Thanks for
> your help.


--
Ignat Solzhenitsyn
Entourage 11.0.0 -- Mac OS 10.3.4
PowerBook G4 15-inch 1.25 GHz ³AluBook²
Palm OS 5.1 -- Palm Tungsten T3



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dar event windows are actually a sort of subclass of new message windows, si=
nce they can also be sent as invitations. Note that the title field is even =
called &quot;Subject&quot;, the &quot;Invite&quot; button opens a &quot;To:&=
quot; field box and a &quot;Send Now&quot; button, allows you to insert a si=
gnature, etc. Evidently Entourage has become a bit confused and thinks that =
it already needs a signature. As Barry says, you need to rebuild. Note that =
Entourage 2004 now calls what used to be &quot;Typical Rebuild&quot; a &quot=
;Compact&quot; to reflect the fact that it really doesn't do much rebuilding=
- it just removes empty spaces and re-orders lists, which would probably no=
t be good enough here. Do a &quot;Rebuild&quot; (formerly known as &quot;Adv=
anced Rebuild&quot;) but which is not only better but faster in 2004. (Or if=
you find that &quot;Compact&quot; works, please let us know.)<BR>
<BR>
-- <BR>
Paul Berkowitz<BR>
MVP Entourage<BR>
Entourage FAQ Page: <a href=3D"http://www.entourage.mvps.org/faq/index.html">=
&lt;http://www.entourage.mvps.org/faq/index.html&gt;</a><BR>
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">&lt;http://macscripter.net/scriptbuilders/&gt;</a> <BR>
<BR>
Please &quot;Reply To Newsgroup&quot; to reply to this message. Emails will=
be ignored.<BR>
<BR>
PLEASE always state which version of Entourage you are using - **2004**, X =
&nbsp;or 2001. It's often impossible to answer your questions otherwise.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<HR ALIGN=3DCENTER SIZE=3D"3" WIDTH=3D"95%"><B>From: </B>Ignat Solzhenitsyn &lt;i=
solzh@spoof_mac.com&gt;<BR>
<B>Newsgroups: </B>microsoft.public.mac.office.entourage<BR>
<B>Date: </B>Tue, 08 Jun 2004 11:16:55 -0400<BR>
<B>Subject: </B>Re: calendar/signature bug?<BR>
<BR>
P.S. &nbsp;Once I delete the signature from event&#8217;s notes, save it, a=
nd close it, and open that event again &#8211; the signature is back. &nbsp;=
It can&#8217;t be killed, it seems.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
on 6/8/04 10.59, in article BCEB4C8B.7FAD%isolzh@spoof_mac.com, Ignat Solzh=
enitsyn isolzh@spoof_mac.com wrote:<BR>
<BR>
</SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYL=
E=3D'font-size:12.0px'>I have several signatures, of which a couple are set up=
to use automatically when creating outgoing messages from certain accounts =
&#8211; for example, my signature below is automatically created when I send=
a message to this newsgroup.<BR>
<BR>
I have noticed a strange bug (?), whereby, when I open certain (only recent=
ly created? not sure) CALENDAR EVENTS, their Notes contain one of my default=
signatures, which is, obviously, a minor nuisance. &nbsp;What on earth coul=
d be telling Entourage to do this? &nbsp;&nbsp;I have never even heard of si=
gnatures being somehow associated with calendar events. &nbsp;Has anyone see=
n this? &nbsp;Thanks for your help.<BR>
</SPAN></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STY=
LE=3D'font-size:12.0px'><BR>
<BR>
-- <BR>
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Entourage 11.0.0 -- Mac OS 10.3.4<BR>
PowerBook G4 15-inch 1.25 GHz &#8220;AluBook&#8221;<BR>
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Re: calendar/signature bug? by Ignat

Ignat
Tue Jun 08 14:02:42 CDT 2004

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I followed your directions as accurately as I could, but with little luck so
far. Here is what I did:

1. verified database (yes, corrupted; E suggested rebuilding).
2. compacted database
3. verified again (supposedly cured)
4. signature problem still there
5. rebuilt database
6. signature problem still there

Since it¹s only with a few calendar items (I wish I could identify a
pattern), should I just ignore and live with this? Or is indeed a sign of
something more sinister and should we keep digging?


on 6/8/04 13.05, in article BCEB3FF7.67CEA%berkowit@spoof_silcom.com, Paul
Berkowitz berkowit@spoof_silcom.com wrote:

> Calendar event windows are actually a sort of subclass of new message windows,
> since they can also be sent as invitations. Note that the title field is even
> called "Subject", the "Invite" button opens a "To:" field box and a "Send Now"
> button, allows you to insert a signature, etc. Evidently Entourage has become
> a bit confused and thinks that it already needs a signature. As Barry says,
> you need to rebuild. Note that Entourage 2004 now calls what used to be
> "Typical Rebuild" a "Compact" to reflect the fact that it really doesn't do
> much rebuilding - it just removes empty spaces and re-orders lists, which
> would probably not be good enough here. Do a "Rebuild" (formerly known as
> "Advanced Rebuild") but which is not only better but faster in 2004. (Or if
> you find that "Compact" works, please let us know.)


--
Ignat Solzhenitsyn
Entourage 11.0.0 -- Mac OS 10.3.4
PowerBook G4 15-inch 1.25 GHz ³AluBook²
Palm OS 5.1 -- Palm Tungsten T3


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lowed your directions as accurately as I could, but with little luck so far.=
&nbsp;Here is what I did:<BR>
<BR>
</SPAN></FONT><OL><LI><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE=3D'f=
ont-size:12.0px'>verified database (yes, corrupted; E suggested rebuilding).
</SPAN></FONT><LI><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-=
size:12.0px'>compacted database
</SPAN></FONT><LI><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-=
size:12.0px'>verified again (supposedly cured)
</SPAN></FONT><LI><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-=
size:12.0px'>signature problem still there
</SPAN></FONT><LI><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-=
size:12.0px'>rebuilt database
</SPAN></FONT><LI><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-=
size:12.0px'>signature problem still there<BR>
</SPAN></FONT></OL><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE=3D'font=
-size:12.0px'><BR>
Since it&#8217;s only with a few calendar items (I wish I could identify a =
pattern), should I just ignore and live with this? &nbsp;Or is indeed a sign=
of something more sinister and should we keep digging?<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
on 6/8/04 13.05, in article BCEB3FF7.67CEA%berkowit@spoof_silcom.com, Paul =
Berkowitz berkowit@spoof_silcom.com wrote:<BR>
<BR>
</SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYL=
E=3D'font-size:12.0px'>Calendar event windows are actually a sort of subclass =
of new message windows, since they can also be sent as invitations. Note tha=
t the title field is even called &quot;Subject&quot;, the &quot;Invite&quot;=
button opens a &quot;To:&quot; field box and a &quot;Send Now&quot; button,=
allows you to insert a signature, etc. Evidently Entourage has become a bit=
confused and thinks that it already needs a signature. As Barry says, you n=
eed to rebuild. Note that Entourage 2004 now calls what used to be &quot;Typ=
ical Rebuild&quot; a &quot;Compact&quot; to reflect the fact that it really =
doesn't do much rebuilding - it just removes empty spaces and re-orders list=
s, which would probably not be good enough here. Do a &quot;Rebuild&quot; (f=
ormerly known as &quot;Advanced Rebuild&quot;) but which is not only better =
but faster in 2004. (Or if you find that &quot;Compact&quot; works, please l=
et us know.)<BR>
</SPAN></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STY=
LE=3D'font-size:12.0px'><BR>
<BR>
-- <BR>
Ignat Solzhenitsyn<BR>
Entourage 11.0.0 -- Mac OS 10.3.4<BR>
PowerBook G4 15-inch 1.25 GHz &#8220;AluBook&#8221;<BR>
Palm OS 5.1 -- Palm Tungsten T3<BR>
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Re: calendar/signature bug? by John

John
Tue Jun 15 11:20:59 CDT 2004

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I am experiencing the same problem and I was not able to fix it by
rebuilding the database. However, I did discover something interesting.

* I have a default signature for my Exchange account. When the Exchange is
selected as the default account (tools -> accounts), the mysterious
signature does not appear in calendar entries.
* When another account (POP or IMAP) is selected as the default account, the
signature appears in many calendar entries. What appears is the default
signature from the Exchange account.
* I have created signatures for the POP account, but it does not change the
behavior.

So the only work-around I have found so far is to keep the Exchange account
as the default account.

Thanks,

John


On 6/8/04 12:02 PM, in article BCEB8592.7FE3%isolzh@spoof_mac.com, "Ignat
Solzhenitsyn" <isolzh@spoof_mac.com> wrote:

> I followed your directions as accurately as I could, but with little luck so
> far. Here is what I did:
>
> 1. verified database (yes, corrupted; E suggested rebuilding).
> 2. compacted database
> 3. verified again (supposedly cured)
> 4. signature problem still there
> 5. rebuilt database
> 6. signature problem still there
>
> Since it¹s only with a few calendar items (I wish I could identify a pattern),
> should I just ignore and live with this? Or is indeed a sign of something
> more sinister and should we keep digging?
>
>
> on 6/8/04 13.05, in article BCEB3FF7.67CEA%berkowit@spoof_silcom.com, Paul
> Berkowitz berkowit@spoof_silcom.com wrote:
>
>> Calendar event windows are actually a sort of subclass of new message
>> windows, since they can also be sent as invitations. Note that the title
>> field is even called "Subject", the "Invite" button opens a "To:" field box
>> and a "Send Now" button, allows you to insert a signature, etc. Evidently
>> Entourage has become a bit confused and thinks that it already needs a
>> signature. As Barry says, you need to rebuild. Note that Entourage 2004 now
>> calls what used to be "Typical Rebuild" a "Compact" to reflect the fact that
>> it really doesn't do much rebuilding - it just removes empty spaces and
>> re-orders lists, which would probably not be good enough here. Do a "Rebuild"
>> (formerly known as "Advanced Rebuild") but which is not only better but
>> faster in 2004. (Or if you find that "Compact" works, please let us know.)
>



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experiencing the same problem and I was not able to fix it by rebuilding the=
database. &nbsp;However, I did discover something interesting.<BR>
<BR>
</SPAN></FONT><UL><LI><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE=3D'f=
ont-size:12.0px'>I have a default signature for my Exchange account. &nbsp;W=
hen the Exchange is selected as the default account (tools -&gt; accounts), =
the mysterious signature does <B>not </B>appear in calendar entries.
</SPAN></FONT><LI><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-=
size:12.0px'>When another account (POP or IMAP) is selected as the default a=
ccount, the signature appears in many calendar entries. &nbsp;What appears &=
nbsp;is the default signature from the Exchange account.
</SPAN></FONT><LI><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-=
size:12.0px'>I have created signatures for the POP account, but it does not =
change the behavior. <BR>
</SPAN></FONT></UL><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE=3D'font=
-size:12.0px'><BR>
So the only work-around I have found so far is to keep the Exchange account=
as the default account. &nbsp;<BR>
<BR>
Thanks,<BR>
<BR>
John<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
On 6/8/04 12:02 PM, in article BCEB8592.7FE3%isolzh@spoof_mac.com, &quot;Ig=
nat Solzhenitsyn&quot; &lt;isolzh@spoof_mac.com&gt; wrote:<BR>
<BR>
</SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYL=
E=3D'font-size:12.0px'>I followed your directions as accurately as I could, bu=
t with little luck so far. &nbsp;Here is what I did:<BR>
<BR>
</SPAN></FONT><OL><LI><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE=3D'f=
ont-size:12.0px'>verified database (yes, corrupted; E suggested rebuilding).=
=20
</SPAN></FONT><LI><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-=
size:12.0px'>compacted database=20
</SPAN></FONT><LI><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-=
size:12.0px'>verified again (supposedly cured)=20
</SPAN></FONT><LI><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-=
size:12.0px'>signature problem still there=20
</SPAN></FONT><LI><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-=
size:12.0px'>rebuilt database=20
</SPAN></FONT><LI><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-=
size:12.0px'>signature problem still there<BR>
</SPAN></FONT></OL><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE=3D'font=
-size:12.0px'><BR>
Since it&#8217;s only with a few calendar items (I wish I could identify a =
pattern), should I just ignore and live with this? &nbsp;Or is indeed a sign=
of something more sinister and should we keep digging?<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
on 6/8/04 13.05, in article BCEB3FF7.67CEA%berkowit@spoof_silcom.com, Paul =
Berkowitz berkowit@spoof_silcom.com wrote:<BR>
<BR>
</SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYL=
E=3D'font-size:12.0px'>Calendar event windows are actually a sort of subclass =
of new message windows, since they can also be sent as invitations. Note tha=
t the title field is even called &quot;Subject&quot;, the &quot;Invite&quot;=
button opens a &quot;To:&quot; field box and a &quot;Send Now&quot; button,=
allows you to insert a signature, etc. Evidently Entourage has become a bit=
confused and thinks that it already needs a signature. As Barry says, you n=
eed to rebuild. Note that Entourage 2004 now calls what used to be &quot;Typ=
ical Rebuild&quot; a &quot;Compact&quot; to reflect the fact that it really =
doesn't do much rebuilding - it just removes empty spaces and re-orders list=
s, which would probably not be good enough here. Do a &quot;Rebuild&quot; (f=
ormerly known as &quot;Advanced Rebuild&quot;) but which is not only better =
but faster in 2004. (Or if you find that &quot;Compact&quot; works, please l=
et us know.)<BR>
</SPAN></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STY=
LE=3D'font-size:12.0px'><BR>
</SPAN></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STY=
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Paul
Tue Jun 15 13:59:30 CDT 2004

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Thanks for reporting this workaround, John.

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From: John Graf <jgraf@news.dev.null>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.mac.office.entourage
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 09:20:59 -0700
Subject: Re: calendar/signature bug?

I am experiencing the same problem and I was not able to fix it by
rebuilding the database. However, I did discover something interesting.

* I have a default signature for my Exchange account. When the Exchange is
selected as the default account (tools -> accounts), the mysterious
signature does not appear in calendar entries.
* When another account (POP or IMAP) is selected as the default account, the
signature appears in many calendar entries. What appears is the default
signature from the Exchange account.
* I have created signatures for the POP account, but it does not change the
behavior.

So the only work-around I have found so far is to keep the Exchange account
as the default account.

Thanks,

John


On 6/8/04 12:02 PM, in article BCEB8592.7FE3%isolzh@spoof_mac.com, "Ignat
Solzhenitsyn" <isolzh@spoof_mac.com> wrote:

> I followed your directions as accurately as I could, but with little luck so
> far. Here is what I did:
>
> 1. verified database (yes, corrupted; E suggested rebuilding).
> 2. compacted database
> 3. verified again (supposedly cured)
> 4. signature problem still there
> 5. rebuilt database
> 6. signature problem still there
>
> Since it¹s only with a few calendar items (I wish I could identify a pattern),
> should I just ignore and live with this? Or is indeed a sign of something
> more sinister and should we keep digging?
>
>
> on 6/8/04 13.05, in article BCEB3FF7.67CEA%berkowit@spoof_silcom.com, Paul
> Berkowitz berkowit@spoof_silcom.com wrote:
>
>> Calendar event windows are actually a sort of subclass of new message
>> windows, since they can also be sent as invitations. Note that the title
>> field is even called "Subject", the "Invite" button opens a "To:" field box
>> and a "Send Now" button, allows you to insert a signature, etc. Evidently
>> Entourage has become a bit confused and thinks that it already needs a
>> signature. As Barry says, you need to rebuild. Note that Entourage 2004 now
>> calls what used to be "Typical Rebuild" a "Compact" to reflect the fact that
>> it really doesn't do much rebuilding - it just removes empty spaces and
>> re-orders lists, which would probably not be good enough here. Do a "Rebuild"
>> (formerly known as "Advanced Rebuild") but which is not only better but
>> faster in 2004. (Or if you find that "Compact" works, please let us know.)
>




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<BR>
-- <BR>
Paul Berkowitz<BR>
MVP Entourage<BR>
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">&lt;http://macscripter.net/scriptbuilders/&gt;</a> <BR>
<BR>
Please &quot;Reply To Newsgroup&quot; to reply to this message. Emails will=
be ignored.<BR>
<BR>
PLEASE always state which version of Entourage you are using - **2004**, X =
&nbsp;or 2001. It's often impossible to answer your questions otherwise.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<HR ALIGN=3DCENTER SIZE=3D"3" WIDTH=3D"95%"><B>From: </B>John Graf &lt;jgraf@news=
.dev.null&gt;<BR>
<B>Newsgroups: </B>microsoft.public.mac.office.entourage<BR>
<B>Date: </B>Tue, 15 Jun 2004 09:20:59 -0700<BR>
<B>Subject: </B>Re: calendar/signature bug?<BR>
<BR>
I am experiencing the same problem and I was not able to fix it by rebuildi=
ng the database. &nbsp;However, I did discover something interesting.<BR>
<BR>
</SPAN></FONT><UL><LI><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE=3D'f=
ont-size:12.0px'>I have a default signature for my Exchange account. &nbsp;W=
hen the Exchange is selected as the default account (tools -&gt; accounts), =
the mysterious signature does <B>not </B>appear in calendar entries.=20
</SPAN></FONT><LI><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-=
size:12.0px'>When another account (POP or IMAP) is selected as the default a=
ccount, the signature appears in many calendar entries. &nbsp;What appears &=
nbsp;is the default signature from the Exchange account.=20
</SPAN></FONT><LI><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-=
size:12.0px'>I have created signatures for the POP account, but it does not =
change the behavior. <BR>
</SPAN></FONT></UL><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE=3D'font=
-size:12.0px'><BR>
So the only work-around I have found so far is to keep the Exchange account=
as the default account. &nbsp;<BR>
<BR>
Thanks,<BR>
<BR>
John<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
On 6/8/04 12:02 PM, in article BCEB8592.7FE3%isolzh@spoof_mac.com, &quot;Ig=
nat Solzhenitsyn&quot; &lt;isolzh@spoof_mac.com&gt; wrote:<BR>
<BR>
</SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYL=
E=3D'font-size:12.0px'>I followed your directions as accurately as I could, bu=
t with little luck so far. &nbsp;Here is what I did:<BR>
<BR>
</SPAN></FONT><OL><LI><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE=3D'f=
ont-size:12.0px'>verified database (yes, corrupted; E suggested rebuilding).=
=20
</SPAN></FONT><LI><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-=
size:12.0px'>compacted database=20
</SPAN></FONT><LI><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-=
size:12.0px'>verified again (supposedly cured)=20
</SPAN></FONT><LI><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-=
size:12.0px'>signature problem still there=20
</SPAN></FONT><LI><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-=
size:12.0px'>rebuilt database=20
</SPAN></FONT><LI><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-=
size:12.0px'>signature problem still there<BR>
</SPAN></FONT></OL><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE=3D'font=
-size:12.0px'><BR>
Since it&#8217;s only with a few calendar items (I wish I could identify a =
pattern), should I just ignore and live with this? &nbsp;Or is indeed a sign=
of something more sinister and should we keep digging?<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
on 6/8/04 13.05, in article BCEB3FF7.67CEA%berkowit@spoof_silcom.com, Paul =
Berkowitz berkowit@spoof_silcom.com wrote:<BR>
<BR>
</SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYL=
E=3D'font-size:12.0px'>Calendar event windows are actually a sort of subclass =
of new message windows, since they can also be sent as invitations. Note tha=
t the title field is even called &quot;Subject&quot;, the &quot;Invite&quot;=
button opens a &quot;To:&quot; field box and a &quot;Send Now&quot; button,=
allows you to insert a signature, etc. Evidently Entourage has become a bit=
confused and thinks that it already needs a signature. As Barry says, you n=
eed to rebuild. Note that Entourage 2004 now calls what used to be &quot;Typ=
ical Rebuild&quot; a &quot;Compact&quot; to reflect the fact that it really =
doesn't do much rebuilding - it just removes empty spaces and re-orders list=
s, which would probably not be good enough here. Do a &quot;Rebuild&quot; (f=
ormerly known as &quot;Advanced Rebuild&quot;) but which is not only better =
but faster in 2004. (Or if you find that &quot;Compact&quot; works, please l=
et us know.)<BR>
</SPAN></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STY=
LE=3D'font-size:12.0px'><BR>
</SPAN></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STY=
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