When will there be updates to Entourage?

Does anyone know. It seems I've had the same version for OSX for years
now...and there is room for improvement, etc. When is the new version coming
out?

Mickey
Sat Jul 22 15:36:16 CDT 2006

There is one update for Entourage X. Download and install the latest Office
X update, which is 10.1.7. It's available from Microsoft.
<http://www.microsoft.com/mac/downloads.aspx#OfficeX>

As for a new version, Entourage 2004 was released in May 2004, which was
some time ago. You can learn more about it here:
<http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/office2004/office2004.aspx>

On 7/22/06 2:08 PM, in article C0E7C5B2.1FC0B%zenpop@mindspring.com,
"Frederick" <zenpop@mindspring.com> wrote:

> Does anyone know. It seems I've had the same version for OSX for years
> now...and there is room for improvement, etc. When is the new version coming
> out?
>

--
Mickey Stevens (Microsoft MVP for Office:mac)
PowerPoint FAQ featuring PowerPoint:mac: <http://www.pptfaq.com/>
Entourage Help Page: <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/>

Allen
Sun Jul 23 00:02:30 CDT 2006

No doubt Microsoft is working on a Universal binary version of Office, and
that will take some time, since it is such a huge piece of software. The
switch to Intel processors has to have thrown a monkey wrench into their
update plans; otherwise, I'd imagine we'd be hearing about an update right
about now. With the Intel switch thrown in, my bet is on sometime late next
year.

Bill
Wed Jul 26 11:40:45 CDT 2006

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The better question is when they will ditch it altogether and give Mac users
Outlook so we can really use both platforms in the same office. I¹ve been
trying for weeks to get a simple answer to synchronizing Outlook and
Entourage mail and calendars. Nada.

I can buy Exchange server, which is ridiculous for a small office.

Or I can suffer.

Pheh!

Best,

- Bill

On 7/22/06 12:08 PM, in article C0E7C5B2.1FC0B%zenpop@mindspring.com,
"Frederick" <zenpop@mindspring.com> wrote:

> Does anyone know. It seems I've had the same version for OSX for years
> now...and there is room for improvement, etc. When is the new version coming
> out?
>

Tiger 10.4.7
Office 2004
Windows XP Pro SP2
Office 2003
G5 1.8Ghz (single)
ThinkPad T40
Treo 650
(sigh)

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I can buy Exchange server, which is ridiculous for a small office. 
 
Or I can suffer. 
 
Pheh! 
 
 
Best, 
 
 
 - Bill 
 
 
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Office 2004 
Windows XP Pro SP2 
Office 2003 
G5 1.8Ghz (single) 
ThinkPad T40 
Treo 650 
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For small offices I highly recommend going with a hosted exchange solution.
For $6-12/user/month you get full support for calendars, contacts, over the
air ActiveSync, and even Blackberry support (costs extra). To get a decent
exchange setup running in house you're going to drop close to $10k when all
is said and done unless you're willing to seriously cut corners.

You could always go linux for mail and it would be cheap and reliable, but
good luck getting any linux groupware solution to work. It would be nice if
M$ made a decent client for the Mac... But don't hold your breath, I've been
fighting the Mac/Exchange integration battle for years and its a rough one!

Crunch the numbers and you'll go hosted, anything else is just crazy for a
small office (IMHO). I run an in-house Exchange setup for a larger
organization and its worth it but I'd never even consider it for less than
30-40 users.

- Matt

in article C0ECE91D.3482D%bill@nospam.net, Bill Weylock at bill@nospam.net
wrote on 7/26/06 9:40 AM:

> The better question is when they will ditch it altogether and give Mac users
> Outlook so we can really use both platforms in the same office. I¹ve been
> trying for weeks to get a simple answer to synchronizing Outlook and Entourage
> mail and calendars. Nada.
>
> I can buy Exchange server, which is ridiculous for a small office.
>
> Or I can suffer.
>
> Pheh!
>
>
> Best,
>
>
> - Bill
>
>
> On 7/22/06 12:08 PM, in article C0E7C5B2.1FC0B%zenpop@mindspring.com,
> "Frederick" <zenpop@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know. It seems I've had the same version for OSX for years
>> now...and there is room for improvement, etc. When is the new version coming
>> out?
>>
>
>
>
>
> Tiger 10.4.7
> Office 2004
> Windows XP Pro SP2
> Office 2003
> G5 1.8Ghz (single)
> ThinkPad T40
> Treo 650
> (sigh)
>
>

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ge setup running in house you're going to drop close to $10k when all is sai=
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You could always go linux for mail and it would be cheap and reliable, but =
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s. 
 
 
- Matt 
 
 
in article C0ECE91D.3482D%bill@nospam.net, Bill Weylock at bill@nospam.net =
wrote on 7/26/06 9:40 AM: 
 
<BLOCKQUOTE>The better question is wh=
en they will ditch it altogether and give Mac users Outlook so we can really=
use both platforms in the same office. I’ve been trying for weeks to =
get a simple answer to synchronizing Outlook and Entourage mail and calendar=
s. Nada. 
 
I can buy Exchange server, which is ridiculous for a small office. 
 
Or I can suffer. 
 
Pheh! 
 
 
Best, 
 
 
 - Bill 
 
 
On 7/22/06 12:08 PM, in article C0E7C5B2.1FC0B%zenpop@mindspring.com, &quot=
;Frederick" <zenpop@mindspring.com> wrote: 
 
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g 
out? 
 
</BLOCKQUOTE> 
 
 
 
Tiger 10.4.7 
Office 2004 
Windows XP Pro SP2 
Office 2003 
G5 1.8Ghz (single) 
ThinkPad T40 
Treo 650 
(sigh) 
 
 
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First I¹ve heard of this. Who runs a hosted Exchange service?

Thanks!

Best,

- Bill

On 7/26/06 4:58 PM, in article C0ED4FC6.3F874%matthew.scholz@pointbtel.com,
"Matthew Scholz" <matthew.scholz@pointbtel.com> wrote:

> For small offices I highly recommend going with a hosted exchange solution.
> For $6-12/user/month you get full support for calendars, contacts, over the
> air ActiveSync, and even Blackberry support (costs extra). To get a decent
> exchange setup running in house you're going to drop close to $10k when all is
> said and done unless you're willing to seriously cut corners.
>
> You could always go linux for mail and it would be cheap and reliable, but
> good luck getting any linux groupware solution to work. It would be nice if M$
> made a decent client for the Mac... But don't hold your breath, I've been
> fighting the Mac/Exchange integration battle for years and its a rough one!
>
> Crunch the numbers and you'll go hosted, anything else is just crazy for a
> small office (IMHO). I run an in-house Exchange setup for a larger
> organization and its worth it but I'd never even consider it for less than
> 30-40 users.
>
>
> - Matt
>
>
> in article C0ECE91D.3482D%bill@nospam.net, Bill Weylock at bill@nospam.net
> wrote on 7/26/06 9:40 AM:
>
>> The better question is when they will ditch it altogether and give Mac users
>> Outlook so we can really use both platforms in the same office. I¹ve been
>> trying for weeks to get a simple answer to synchronizing Outlook and
>> Entourage mail and calendars. Nada.
>>
>> I can buy Exchange server, which is ridiculous for a small office.
>>
>> Or I can suffer.
>>
>> Pheh!
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>> - Bill
>>
>>
>> On 7/22/06 12:08 PM, in article C0E7C5B2.1FC0B%zenpop@mindspring.com,
>> "Frederick" <zenpop@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone know. It seems I've had the same version for OSX for years
>>> now...and there is room for improvement, etc. When is the new version coming
>>> out?
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Tiger 10.4.7
>> Office 2004
>> Windows XP Pro SP2
>> Office 2003
>> G5 1.8Ghz (single)
>> ThinkPad T40
>> Treo 650
>> (sigh)
>>
>>
>
>
>

Tiger 10.4.7
Office 2004
Windows XP Pro SP2
Office 2003
G5 1.8Ghz (single)
ThinkPad T40
Treo 650
(sigh)

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First I’ve heard of this. Who runs a hosted E=
xchange service? 
 
Thanks! 
 
 
Best, 
 
 
 - Bill 
 
 
On 7/26/06 4:58 PM, in article C0ED4FC6.3F874%matthew.scholz@pointbtel.com,=
"Matthew Scholz" <matthew.scholz@pointbtel.com> wrote: 
 
<BLOCKQUOTE>For small offices I highly recommend going with a hoste=
d exchange solution. For $6-12/user/month you get full support for calendars=
, contacts, over the air ActiveSync, and even Blackberry support (costs extr=
a). To get a decent exchange setup running in house you're going to drop clo=
se to $10k when all is said and done unless you're willing to seriously cut =
corners. 
 
You could always go linux for mail and it would be cheap and reliable, but =
good luck getting any linux groupware solution to work. It would be nice if =
M$ made a decent client for the Mac... But don't hold your breath, I've been=
fighting the Mac/Exchange integration battle for years and its a rough one!=
 
 
Crunch the numbers and you'll go hosted, anything else is just crazy for a =
small office (IMHO). I run an in-house Exchange setup for a larger organizat=
ion and its worth it but I'd never even consider it for less than 30-40 user=
s. 
 
 
- Matt 
 
 
in article C0ECE91D.3482D%bill@nospam.net, Bill Weylock at bill@nospam.net =
wrote on 7/26/06 9:40 AM: 
 
<BLOCKQUOTE>The better question is wh=
en they will ditch it altogether and give Mac users Outlook so we can really=
use both platforms in the same office. I’ve been trying for weeks to =
get a simple answer to synchronizing Outlook and Entourage mail and calendar=
s. Nada. 
 
I can buy Exchange server, which is ridiculous for a small office. 
 
Or I can suffer. 
 
Pheh! 
 
 
Best, 
 
 
 - Bill 
 
 
On 7/22/06 12:08 PM, in article C0E7C5B2.1FC0B%zenpop@mindspring.com, &quot=
;Frederick" <zenpop@mindspring.com> wrote: 
 
<BLOCKQUOTE>Does anyone know. It seems I've had the same ve=
rsion for OSX for years 
now...and there is room for improvement, etc. When is the new version comin=
g 
out? 
 
</BLOCKQUOTE> 
 
 
 
Tiger 10.4.7 
Office 2004 
Windows XP Pro SP2 
Office 2003 
G5 1.8Ghz (single) 
ThinkPad T40 
Treo 650 
(sigh) 
 
 
</BLOCKQUOTE> 
 
 
</BLOCKQUOTE> 
 
 
 
Tiger 10.4.7 
Office 2004 
Windows XP Pro SP2 
Office 2003 
G5 1.8Ghz (single) 
ThinkPad T40 
Treo 650 
(sigh) 
 

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Linotype
Wed Jul 26 19:25:59 CDT 2006

Mickey Stevens wrote:
> There is one update for Entourage X. Download and install the latest Office
> X update, which is 10.1.7. It's available from Microsoft.
> <http://www.microsoft.com/mac/downloads.aspx#OfficeX>
>
> Mickey Stevens (Microsoft MVP for Office:mac)
> PowerPoint FAQ featuring PowerPoint:mac: <http://www.pptfaq.com/>
> Entourage Help Page: <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/>

I just downloaded and installed update 10.1.7 and now Entourage X has
version number 10.1.6 and there are no obvious changes.

Update 10.1.7 was mainly for Word and Excel if I understand the Read Me
correctly.

Linotype

incogenator
Thu Jul 27 00:42:31 CDT 2006

Bill - I second that comment and description on hosted service from
Matt. We use an exchange service that is hosted with Intermedia
(www.intermedia.net) and they provide excellent service and support.

I woul go even further than Matt and say that for 40 users (around what
we have) it still makes sense to go hosted rather than in-house given
redundancy (don't depend on your ISP) and maintenance/updates (you will
almost always have the latest setup).

Also - It integrates Entourage pretty well although not fully since you
dont have support for tasks and a couple of other items. shared
calendards and contact lists work though as well as public folder
discussions (non-task items).

h

Bill Weylock wrote:
> First I=B9ve heard of this. Who runs a hosted Exchange service?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Best,
>
>
> - Bill
>
>
> On 7/26/06 4:58 PM, in article C0ED4FC6.3F874%matthew.scholz@pointbtel.co=
m,
> "Matthew Scholz" <matthew.scholz@pointbtel.com> wrote:
>
> > For small offices I highly recommend going with a hosted exchange solut=
ion.
> > For $6-12/user/month you get full support for calendars, contacts, over=
the
> > air ActiveSync, and even Blackberry support (costs extra). To get a dec=
ent
> > exchange setup running in house you're going to drop close to $10k when=
all is
> > said and done unless you're willing to seriously cut corners.
> >
> > You could always go linux for mail and it would be cheap and reliable, =
but
> > good luck getting any linux groupware solution to work. It would be nic=
e if M$
> > made a decent client for the Mac... But don't hold your breath, I've be=
en
> > fighting the Mac/Exchange integration battle for years and its a rough =
one!
> >
> > Crunch the numbers and you'll go hosted, anything else is just crazy fo=
r a
> > small office (IMHO). I run an in-house Exchange setup for a larger
> > organization and its worth it but I'd never even consider it for less t=
han
> > 30-40 users.
> >
> >
> > - Matt
> >
> >
> > in article C0ECE91D.3482D%bill@nospam.net, Bill Weylock at bill@nospam.=
net
> > wrote on 7/26/06 9:40 AM:
> >
> >> The better question is when they will ditch it altogether and give Mac=
users
> >> Outlook so we can really use both platforms in the same office. I=B9ve=
been
> >> trying for weeks to get a simple answer to synchronizing Outlook and
> >> Entourage mail and calendars. Nada.
> >>
> >> I can buy Exchange server, which is ridiculous for a small office.
> >>
> >> Or I can suffer.
> >>
> >> Pheh!
> >>
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >>
> >> - Bill
> >>
> >>
> >> On 7/22/06 12:08 PM, in article C0E7C5B2.1FC0B%zenpop@mindspring.com,
> >> "Frederick" <zenpop@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Does anyone know. It seems I've had the same version for OSX for years
> >>> now...and there is room for improvement, etc. When is the new version=
coming
> >>> out?
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Tiger 10.4.7
> >> Office 2004
> >> Windows XP Pro SP2
> >> Office 2003
> >> G5 1.8Ghz (single)
> >> ThinkPad T40
> >> Treo 650
> >> (sigh)
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> Tiger 10.4.7
> Office 2004
> Windows XP Pro SP2
> Office 2003
> G5 1.8Ghz (single)
> ThinkPad T40
> Treo 650
> (sigh)
>
>
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> 
> You could always go linux for mail and it would be cheap and reliable, bu=
t good luck getting any linux groupware solution to work. It would be nice =
if M$ made a decent client for the Mac... But don't hold your breath, I've =
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> 
> Crunch the numbers and you'll go hosted, anything else is just crazy for =
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> 
> 
> - Matt 
> 
> 
> in article C0ECE91D.3482D%bill@nospam.net, Bill Weylock at bill@nospam.ne=
t wrote on 7/26/06 9:40 AM: 
> 
> <BLOCKQUOTE>The better quest=
ion is when they will ditch it altogether and give Mac users Outlook so we =
can really use both platforms in the same office. I’ve been trying fo=
r weeks to get a simple answer to synchronizing Outlook and Entourage mail =
and calendars. Nada. 
> 
> I can buy Exchange server, which is ridiculous for a small office. 
> 
> Or I can suffer. 
> 
> Pheh! 
> 
> 
> Best, 
> 
> 
>  - Bill 
> 
> 
> On 7/22/06 12:08 PM, in article C0E7C5B2.1FC0B%zenpop@mindspring.com, &qu=
ot;Frederick" <zenpop@mindspring.com> wrote: 
> 
> <BLOCKQUOTE>Does anyone know. It seems I've had the =
same version for OSX for years 
> now...and there is room for improvement, etc. When is the new version com=
ing 
> out? 
> 
> </BLOCKQUOTE> 
> 
> 
> 
> Tiger 10.4.7 
> Office 2004 
> Windows XP Pro SP2 
> Office 2003 
> G5 1.8Ghz (single) 
> ThinkPad T40 
> Treo 650 
> (sigh) 
> 
> 
> </BLOCKQUOTE> 
> 
> 
> </BLOCKQUOTE> 
> 
> 
> 
> Tiger 10.4.7 
> Office 2004 
> Windows XP Pro SP2 
> Office 2003 
> G5 1.8Ghz (single) 
> ThinkPad T40 
> Treo 650 
> (sigh) 
> 
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Thu Jul 27 15:24:58 CDT 2006

On 7/26/06 4:58 PM, in article C0ED4FC6.3F874%matthew.scholz@pointbtel.com,
"Matthew Scholz" <matthew.scholz@pointbtel.com> wrote:

> For small offices I highly recommend going with a hosted exchange solution.
> For $6-12/user/month you get full support for calendars, contacts, over the
> air ActiveSync, and even Blackberry support (costs extra). To get a decent
> exchange setup running in house you're going to drop close to $10k when all is
> said and done unless you're willing to seriously cut corners.

I had very bad luck with hosted Exchange for an office of Entourage users.
Ultimately, our service provider said that it really couldn't be done --
that some functions (delegation specifically) just wouldn't work right with
a hosted solution.

This was several months ago, and of course there have been updates to both
Entourage and Exchange. And it's possible that this service provider didn't
have deep Mac-specific knowledge. What worked great for this particular
client though was Kerio MailServer. It's inexpensive, runs on Windows XP or
Mac OS X, and it's simple to administer. I highly recommend it for a small
office of Mac users.

Jeff

Bill
Thu Jul 27 18:19:08 CDT 2006

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I found intermedia quickly searching google for exchange server hosting.

I believe they also offer hosted SharePoint. Does that work? The attraction
would be sharing things like project management and scheduling software, as
well as building PowerPoint presentations as a group.

Probably too good to be true?

Best,

- Bill

On 7/26/06 10:42 PM, in article
1153978951.655940.29620@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com, "incogenator"
<pendolino@gmail.com> wrote:

> Bill - I second that comment and description on hosted service from
> Matt. We use an exchange service that is hosted with Intermedia
> (www.intermedia.net) and they provide excellent service and support.
>
> I woul go even further than Matt and say that for 40 users (around what
> we have) it still makes sense to go hosted rather than in-house given
> redundancy (don't depend on your ISP) and maintenance/updates (you will
> almost always have the latest setup).
>
> Also - It integrates Entourage pretty well although not fully since you
> dont have support for tasks and a couple of other items. shared
> calendards and contact lists work though as well as public folder
> discussions (non-task items).
>
> h
>
> Bill Weylock wrote:
>> > First I¹ve heard of this. Who runs a hosted Exchange service?
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> >
>> > Best,
>> >
>> >
>> > - Bill
>> >
>> >
>> > On 7/26/06 4:58 PM, in article C0ED4FC6.3F874%matthew.scholz@pointbtel.com,
>> > "Matthew Scholz" <matthew.scholz@pointbtel.com> wrote:
>> >
>>> > > For small offices I highly recommend going with a hosted exchange
>>> solution.
>>> > > For $6-12/user/month you get full support for calendars, contacts, over
the
>>> > > air ActiveSync, and even Blackberry support (costs extra). To get a
>>> decent
>>> > > exchange setup running in house you're going to drop close to $10k when
>>> all is
>>> > > said and done unless you're willing to seriously cut corners.
>>> > >
>>> > > You could always go linux for mail and it would be cheap and reliable,
but
>>> > > good luck getting any linux groupware solution to work. It would be nice
>>> if M$
>>> > > made a decent client for the Mac... But don't hold your breath, I've >>>
been
>>> > > fighting the Mac/Exchange integration battle for years and its a rough
>>> one!
>>> > >
>>> > > Crunch the numbers and you'll go hosted, anything else is just crazy for
a
>>> > > small office (IMHO). I run an in-house Exchange setup for a larger
>>> > > organization and its worth it but I'd never even consider it for less
>>> than
>>> > > 30-40 users.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > - Matt
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > in article C0ECE91D.3482D%bill@nospam.net, Bill Weylock at
>>> bill@nospam.net
>>> > > wrote on 7/26/06 9:40 AM:
>>> > >
>>>> > >> The better question is when they will ditch it altogether and give Mac
>>>> users
>>>> > >> Outlook so we can really use both platforms in the same office. I¹ve
been
>>>> > >> trying for weeks to get a simple answer to synchronizing Outlook and
>>>> > >> Entourage mail and calendars. Nada.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> I can buy Exchange server, which is ridiculous for a small office.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Or I can suffer.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Pheh!
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Best,
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> - Bill
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> On 7/22/06 12:08 PM, in article C0E7C5B2.1FC0B%zenpop@mindspring.com,
>>>> > >> "Frederick" <zenpop@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>> Does anyone know. It seems I've had the same version for OSX for
years
>>>>> > >>> now...and there is room for improvement, etc. When is the new
>>>>> version coming
>>>>> > >>> out?
>>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Tiger 10.4.7
>>>> > >> Office 2004
>>>> > >> Windows XP Pro SP2
>>>> > >> Office 2003
>>>> > >> G5 1.8Ghz (single)
>>>> > >> ThinkPad T40
>>>> > >> Treo 650
>>>> > >> (sigh)
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Tiger 10.4.7
>> > Office 2004
>> > Windows XP Pro SP2
>> > Office 2003
>> > G5 1.8Ghz (single)
>> > ThinkPad T40
>> > Treo 650
>> > (sigh)
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> > <HEAD>
>> > <TITLE>Re: When will there be updates to Entourage?</TITLE>
>> > </HEAD>
>> > <BODY>
>> > > STYLE='font-size:12.0px'>First I’ve heard of this. Who runs a hosted
>> Exchange service? 
>> > 
>> > Thanks! 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Best, 
>> > 
>> > 
>> >  - Bill 
>> > > STYLE='font-size:12.0px'> 
>> > 
>> > On 7/26/06 4:58 PM, in article C0ED4FC6.3F874%matthew.scholz@pointbtel.com,
>> "Matthew Scholz" <matthew.scholz@pointbtel.com> wrote: 
>> > 
>> > <BLOCKQUOTE>> FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial">For small offices I highly recommend going
>> with a hosted exchange solution. For $6-12/user/month you get full support
>> for calendars, contacts, over the air ActiveSync, and even Blackberry support
>> (costs extra). To get a decent exchange setup running in house you're going
>> to drop close to $10k when all is said and done unless you're willing to
>> seriously cut corners. 
>> > 
>> > You could always go linux for mail and it would be cheap and reliable, but
>> good luck getting any linux groupware solution to work. It would be nice if
>> M$ made a decent client for the Mac... But don't hold your breath, I've been
>> fighting the Mac/Exchange integration battle for years and its a rough
>> one! 
>> > 
>> > Crunch the numbers and you'll go hosted, anything else is just crazy for a
>> small office (IMHO). I run an in-house Exchange setup for a larger
>> organization and its worth it but I'd never even consider it for less than
>> 30-40 users. 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > - Matt 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > in article C0ECE91D.3482D%bill@nospam.net, Bill Weylock at bill@nospam.net
>> wrote on 7/26/06 9:40 AM: 
>> > 
>> > <BLOCKQUOTE>> COLOR="#000080">The better
>> question is when they will ditch it altogether and give Mac users Outlook so
>> we can really use both platforms in the same office. I’ve been trying
>> for weeks to get a simple answer to synchronizing Outlook and Entourage mail
>> and calendars. Nada. 
>> > 
>> > I can buy Exchange server, which is ridiculous for a small office. 
>> > 
>> > Or I can suffer. 
>> > 
>> > Pheh! 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Best, 
>> > 
>> > 
>> >  - Bill 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > On 7/22/06 12:08 PM, in article C0E7C5B2.1FC0B%zenpop@mindspring.com,
>> "Frederick" <zenpop@mindspring.com> wrote: 
>> > 
>> > <BLOCKQUOTE>> FACE="Futura, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial">Does anyone know. It seems I've had
>> the same version for OSX for years 
>> > now...and there is room for improvement, etc. When is the new version
>> coming 
>> > out? 
>> > 
>> > </BLOCKQUOTE>> FACE="Futura, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"> 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Tiger 10.4.7 
>> > Office 2004 
>> > Windows XP Pro SP2 
>> > Office 2003 
>> > G5 1.8Ghz (single) 
>> > ThinkPad T40 
>> > Treo 650 
>> > (sigh) 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > </BLOCKQUOTE>> FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"> 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > </BLOCKQUOTE>> FACE="Futura, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"> 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Tiger 10.4.7 
>> > Office 2004 
>> > Windows XP Pro SP2 
>> > Office 2003 
>> > G5 1.8Ghz (single) 
>> > ThinkPad T40 
>> > Treo 650 
>> > (sigh) 
>> > 
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I found intermedia quickly searching google for exc=
hange server hosting. 
 
I believe they also offer hosted SharePoint. Does that work? The attraction=
would be sharing things like project management and scheduling software, as=
well as building PowerPoint presentations as a group. 
 
Probably too good to be true? 
 
 
Best, 
 
 
 - Bill 
 
 
On 7/26/06 10:42 PM, in article 1153978951.655940.29620@b28g2000cwb.googleg=
roups.com, "incogenator" <pendolino@gmail.com> wrote: 
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><S=
PAN STYLE=3D'font-size:12.0px'>Bill - I second that comment and description on=
hosted service from 
Matt. We use an exchange service that is hosted with Intermedia 
(www.intermedia.net) and they provide excellent service and support. 
 
I woul go even further than Matt and say that for 40 users (around what 
we have) it still makes sense to go hosted rather than in-house given 
redundancy (don't depend on your ISP) and maintenance/updates (you will 
almost always have the latest setup). 
 
Also - It integrates Entourage pretty well although not fully since you 
dont have support for tasks and a couple of other items. shared 
calendards and contact lists work though as well as public folder 
discussions (non-task items). 
 
h 
 
Bill Weylock wrote: 
> First I’ve heard of this. Who runs a hosted Exchange service?<BR=
>
> 
> Thanks! 
> 
> 
> Best, 
> 
> 
>  - Bill 
> 
> 
> On 7/26/06 4:58 PM, in article C0ED4FC6.3F874%matthew.scholz@pointbtel=
.com, 
> "Matthew Scholz" <matthew.scholz@pointbtel.com> wrote:=
 
> 
> > For small offices I highly recommend going with a hosted exchange=
solution. 
> > For $6-12/user/month you get full support for calendars, contacts=
, over the 
> > air ActiveSync, and even Blackberry support (costs extra). To get=
a decent 
> > exchange setup running in house you're going to drop close to $10=
k when all is 
> > said and done unless you're willing to seriously cut corners. 
> > 
> > You could always go linux for mail and it would be cheap and reli=
able, but 
> > good luck getting any linux groupware solution to work. It would =
be nice if M$ 
> > made a decent client for the Mac... But don't hold your breath, I=
've been 
> > fighting the Mac/Exchange integration battle for years and its a =
rough one! 
> > 
> > Crunch the numbers and you'll go hosted, anything else is just cr=
azy for a 
> > small office (IMHO). I run an in-house Exchange setup for a large=
r 
> > organization and its worth it but I'd never even consider it for =
less than 
> > 30-40 users. 
> > 
> > 
> > - Matt 
> > 
> > 
> > in article C0ECE91D.3482D%bill@nospam.net, Bill Weylock at bill@n=
ospam.net 
> > wrote on 7/26/06 9:40 AM: 
> > 
> >> The better question is when they will ditch it altogether and=
give Mac users 
> >> Outlook so we can really use both platforms in the same offic=
e. I’ve been 
> >> trying for weeks to get a simple answer to synchronizing Outl=
ook and 
> >> Entourage mail and calendars. Nada. 
> >> 
> >> I can buy Exchange server, which is ridiculous for a small of=
fice. 
> >> 
> >> Or I can suffer. 
> >> 
> >> Pheh! 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Best, 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>  - Bill 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On 7/22/06 12:08 PM, in article C0E7C5B2.1FC0B%zenpop@mindspr=
ing.com, 
> >> "Frederick" <zenpop@mindspring.com> wrote:<BR=
>
> >> 
> >>> Does anyone know. It seems I've had the same version for =
OSX for years 
> >>> now...and there is room for improvement, etc. When is the=
new version coming 
> >>> out? 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Tiger 10.4.7 
> >> Office 2004 
> >> Windows XP Pro SP2 
> >> Office 2003 
> >> G5 1.8Ghz (single) 
> >> ThinkPad T40 
> >> Treo 650 
> >> (sigh) 
> >> 
> >> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Tiger 10.4.7 
> Office 2004 
> Windows XP Pro SP2 
> Office 2003 
> G5 1.8Ghz (single) 
> ThinkPad T40 
> Treo 650 
> (sigh) 
> 
> 
> 
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> </HEAD> 
> <BODY> 
> First I&=
amp;#8217;ve heard of this. Who runs a hosted Exchange service? <BR=
>
> 
> Thanks! 
> 
> 
> Best, 
> 
> 
> &nbsp;- Bill 
> <BR&=
gt; 
> 
> On 7/26/06 4:58 PM, in article C0ED4FC6.3F874%matthew.scholz@pointbtel=
.com, &quot;Matthew Scholz&quot; &lt;matthew.scholz@pointbtel.co=
m&gt; wrote: 
> 
> <BLOCKQUOTE>For small =
offices I highly recommend going with a hosted exchange solution. For $6-12/=
user/month you get full support for calendars, contacts, over the air Active=
Sync, and even Blackberry support (costs extra). To get a decent exchange se=
tup running in house you're going to drop close to $10k when all is said and=
done unless you're willing to seriously cut corners. 
> 
> You could always go linux for mail and it would be cheap and reliable,=
but good luck getting any linux groupware solution to work. It would be nic=
e if M$ made a decent client for the Mac... But don't hold your breath, I've=
been fighting the Mac/Exchange integration battle for years and its a rough=
one! 
> 
> Crunch the numbers and you'll go hosted, anything else is just crazy f=
or a small office (IMHO). I run an in-house Exchange setup for a larger orga=
nization and its worth it but I'd never even consider it for less than 30-40=
users. 
> 
> 
> - Matt 
> 
> 
> in article C0ECE91D.3482D%bill@nospam.net, Bill Weylock at bill@nospam=
.net wrote on 7/26/06 9:40 AM: 
> 
> <BLOCKQUOTE>The better question is when they will di=
tch it altogether and give Mac users Outlook so we can really use both platf=
orms in the same office. I&#8217;ve been trying for weeks to get a simpl=
e answer to synchronizing Outlook and Entourage mail and calendars. Nada.&lt=
;BR> 
> 
> I can buy Exchange server, which is ridiculous for a small office.<=
BR> 
> 
> Or I can suffer. 
> 
> Pheh! 
> 
> 
> Best, 
> 
> 
> &nbsp;- Bill 
> 
> 
> On 7/22/06 12:08 PM, in article C0E7C5B2.1FC0B%zenpop@mindspring.com, =
&quot;Frederick&quot; &lt;zenpop@mindspring.com&gt; wrote:&l=
t;BR> 
> 
> <BLOCKQUOTE>Do=
es anyone know. It seems I've had the same version for OSX for years<BR&g=
t; 
> now...and there is room for improvement, etc. When is the new version =
coming 
> out? 
> 
> </BLOCKQUOTE>&=
lt;BR> 
> 
> 
> 
> Tiger 10.4.7 
> Office 2004 
> Windows XP Pro SP2 
> Office 2003 
> G5 1.8Ghz (single) 
> ThinkPad T40 
> Treo 650 
> (sigh) 
> 
> &l=
t;BR> 
> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR&gt=
; 
> 
> 
> </BLOCKQUOTE>&=
lt;BR> 
> 
> 
> 
> Tiger 10.4.7 
> Office 2004 
> Windows XP Pro SP2 
> Office 2003 
> G5 1.8Ghz (single) 
> ThinkPad T40 
> Treo 650 
> (sigh) 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
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Tiger 10.4.7 
Office 2004 
Windows XP Pro SP2 
Office 2003 
G5 1.8Ghz (single) 
ThinkPad T40 
Treo 650 
(sigh) 
 

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Matthew
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I ended up going with mailstreet because we needed Blackberry (BES) support.
If you don't, 1 and 1 is cheaper and they look pretty good.

Jeff is right in that you can't delegate properly wit

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