Time Machine and Backups

Version: 2008
Operating System: Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)
Processor: intel
Email Client: Exchange

I have read the recommnedations on how to backup Entourage and not use time machine but can't seem to get it to work.

When I try to manually run it, it fails. Any suggestions where I might look for mistake. I make sure I had FolderOrg enabled and attached to the Identity folder which I guess allows for more then one copy. Not stop it from copying. I am trying to copy to a Networked Attached Storage Device which the system sees fine. Could that be a problem? When I manually run it it just "dings" and it's done instantly. I do have it set for iCAL to run it but so far the destination folder is empty?

Diane
Wed Mar 12 23:15:09 CDT 2008

On 3/12/08 5:46 PM, in article ee939d3.-1@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw,
"Kevinw@officeformac.com" <Kevinw@officeformac.com> wrote:

>
> I have read the recommnedations on how to backup Entourage and not use time
> machine but can't seem to get it to work.
>
> When I try to manually run it, it fails. Any suggestions where I might look
> for mistake. I make sure I had FolderOrg enabled and attached to the Identity
> folder which I guess allows for more then one copy.

The folder action is applied to the folder where you want your copies
stored. NOT the Identity folder in Microsoft User Data folder.

>Not stop it from copying.
> I am trying to copy to a Networked Attached Storage Device which the system
> sees fine. Could that be a problem?

You could eliminate that as a problem, by selecting another volume on your
computer for testing.

>When I manually run it it just "dings" and
> it's done instantly. I do have it set for iCAL to run it but so far the
> destination folder is empty?

Try running the Automator action from an open workflow. It that runs
correctly, the next thing to check is did you "save as plugin" then select
for iCal

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Diane, Microsoft Mac MVP (MVPs are not Microsoft Employees)
Entourage Help Page <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/>
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Kevinw
Thu Mar 13 10:46:00 CDT 2008

Hi Diane,

Thanks for your reply, still no luck.

I was applying the folder action to the Identity file so I changed that to the destination file. And removed it from teh Origin file. My process is 1) Enable Folder Actions 2) Attach a Folder Action 3) Select FolderOrg

I stopped trying to go to the NAS and tried both using my computers HD as the destination and the disk I have attached for Time Capsule to see if either would work. Neither did. As you recommended "try running Automator action from an open workflow" I assumed this meant open Automator, select an open workflow. This wasn't clear to me but I what I did was Open Automator, selecting from "Recent Files" and choose the MUD Backup.app I created and then using the control buttons at the top I hit "Run". When I do this it starts and stops in less then 4 seconds and I get a "ding". It appears the finder is finding the files but the copy part is not working.

Also, I recreated the work flow and made sure I saved it as "File-Save as Plug In-Plug In for iCal Alarm. Although I have no idea where these files are stored. An observation note is that I would think when I start Automator that the "Use current work flows" would find this but it doesn't.

So I'm still stuck?

Diane
Thu Mar 13 20:07:08 CDT 2008

On 3/13/08 8:46 AM, in article ee939d3.1@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw,
"Kevinw@officeformac.com" <Kevinw@officeformac.com> wrote:

> I stopped trying to go to the NAS and tried both using my computers HD as the
> destination and the disk I have attached for Time Capsule to see if either
> would work. Neither did. As you recommended "try running Automator action from
> an open workflow" I assumed this meant open Automator,

Yes

>select an open
> workflow. This wasn't clear to me but I what I did was Open Automator,
> selecting from "Recent Files" and choose the MUD Backup.app I created and then
> using the control buttons at the top I hit "Run". When I do this it starts and
> stops in less then 4 seconds and I get a "ding". It appears the finder is
> finding the files but the copy part is not working.

Let's revisit your Automator workflow;

First Action: Get Specified Finder Items (select your Main Identity)
Second Action: Copy Finder Items (To: destination folder)

The destination folder has FolderOrgX attached.

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Diane, Microsoft Mac MVP (MVPs are not Microsoft Employees)
Entourage Help Page <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/>
Entourage Help Blog <http://blog.entourage.mvps.org/>

Kevinw
Fri Mar 14 10:16:26 CDT 2008

Okay in review -

1. In my "User" folder, under "Documents", Microsoft User Data, Office 2008 identities I have selected using Automator' "Get Specified Finder Items" the identity folder I am using which is KMW218. Its is not "Main" as previously with MSFT I was testing various identities to solve another problem and I had 3 others and the Main one was "erased"all that is left is KMW218. FYI below the Folder KMW218 there, I believe the usual files Database, Mailing Lists, My Day Plist, Signatures

2. My second action in Automator is "Copy Finder Items" and the destination folder is selected name "Active Entourage KMW DB"

3. This last part is kind of weird, I know for instance that last night I made sure I had "FolderOrgX" attached. This a.m. it isn't. Is there something that would cause this to come unattached. But I opened the folder properties first selected "Enable Folder Actions", then reselected it and "Attached a Folder action = FolderOrg.App

Nonetheless I reattached the folder and ran the workflow from Automator and it failed to copy again?

Diane
Fri Mar 14 19:46:39 CDT 2008

On 3/14/08 8:16 AM, in article ee939d3.3@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw,
"Kevinw@officeformac.com" <Kevinw@officeformac.com> wrote:

> 1. In my "User" folder, under "Documents", Microsoft User Data, Office 2008
> identities I have selected using Automator' "Get Specified Finder Items" the
> identity folder I am using which is KMW218. Its is not "Main" as previously
> with MSFT I was testing various identities to solve another problem and I had
> 3 others and the Main one was "erased"all that is left is KMW218. FYI below
> the Folder KMW218 there, I believe the usual files Database, Mailing Lists, My
> Day Plist, Signatures

Entourage defaults to Identity as 'Main'. You can use any name you select.

You say you believe. You need to check in your Documents --> Microsoft User
Data folder --> Office 2008 Identities folder.
>
> 2. My second action in Automator is "Copy Finder Items" and the destination
> folder is selected name "Active Entourage KMW DB"
>
> 3. This last part is kind of weird, I know for instance that last night I made
> sure I had "FolderOrgX" attached. This a.m. it isn't. Is there something that
> would cause this to come unattached. But I opened the folder properties first
> selected "Enable Folder Actions", then reselected it and "Attached a Folder
> action = FolderOrg.App

Sometimes after restarting you have to startup folder actions again. This
has to be some kind of Finder issue and you have to enable. Luckily it's
easy to do.Drives me crazy
>
> Nonetheless I reattached the folder and ran the workflow from Automator and it
> failed to copy again?

What happens when you just try dragging the folder yourself? Have you tested
this on a different folder? Are you sure you have room to do this on the
destination drive?

--
Diane, Microsoft Mac MVP (MVPs are not Microsoft Employees)
Entourage Help Page <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/>
Entourage Help Blog <http://blog.entourage.mvps.org/>