Public Folders and Contacts

I have what I hope is a relatively simple question for the kind MVP's
in the forum to answer. I've got an Exchange 2000 SP3 sandbox server
in my office for testing purposes, and unlike some others here on the
forums, I've been able to get email and contact and calandar syncing
to work fine with my account. Bravo. The question I have is that the
public contacts and public calandar folders appear (like others have
noted) as a folder full of messages. Is there ANY way to view and
modify a public folder calandar in the same way you can with Outlook
2001? If it is a top-level folder limitation, perhaps I could see
that, but without this capability, my clients are going to see this as
a relatively useless upgrade; and after hours of trolling docs, this
forum and several others, I have yet to see any clarification of ths
(hopefully) simple question...

Gil
Tue Aug 05 16:01:17 CDT 2003

No, the Entourage Exchange Update doesn't support viewing contact or
calendar public folders in any particularly useful way.

Yes, the MacBU does know that this is important to Exchange users.

On 8/5/03 12:50 PM, in article
9d0cfccf.0308051150.3f808cb9@posting.google.com, "James Richardson"
<jimrich@io.com> wrote:

> I have what I hope is a relatively simple question for the kind MVP's
> in the forum to answer. I've got an Exchange 2000 SP3 sandbox server
> in my office for testing purposes, and unlike some others here on the
> forums, I've been able to get email and contact and calandar syncing
> to work fine with my account. Bravo. The question I have is that the
> public contacts and public calandar folders appear (like others have
> noted) as a folder full of messages. Is there ANY way to view and
> modify a public folder calandar in the same way you can with Outlook
> 2001? If it is a top-level folder limitation, perhaps I could see
> that, but without this capability, my clients are going to see this as
> a relatively useless upgrade; and after hours of trolling docs, this
> forum and several others, I have yet to see any clarification of ths
> (hopefully) simple question...

Beth
Tue Aug 05 16:02:19 CDT 2003

Hi James,

Paul Berkowitz answered a similar question earlier today as follows:

> No, no public folder. Global Address Book yes, your own Entourage contacts
> yes. I'm not sure if these link to anywhere outside Entourage but they
> certainly are accessible from other Entourage identities and computers that
> access the same Exchange account. But not, I don't think, to anyone else on
> another Exchange account, so not public.

--
Beth Rosengard
Mac MVP

Mac Word FAQ: <http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/WordMac/index.html>
Entourage Help Page: <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/toc.html>


On 8/5/03 12:50 PM, in article
9d0cfccf.0308051150.3f808cb9@posting.google.com, "James Richardson"
<jimrich@io.com> wrote:

> I have what I hope is a relatively simple question for the kind MVP's
> in the forum to answer. I've got an Exchange 2000 SP3 sandbox server
> in my office for testing purposes, and unlike some others here on the
> forums, I've been able to get email and contact and calandar syncing
> to work fine with my account. Bravo. The question I have is that the
> public contacts and public calandar folders appear (like others have
> noted) as a folder full of messages. Is there ANY way to view and
> modify a public folder calandar in the same way you can with Outlook
> 2001? If it is a top-level folder limitation, perhaps I could see
> that, but without this capability, my clients are going to see this as
> a relatively useless upgrade; and after hours of trolling docs, this
> forum and several others, I have yet to see any clarification of ths
> (hopefully) simple question...

Lieven
Wed Aug 06 05:13:25 CDT 2003

I am not sure if I understand the question completely, but here is what I
guess is the answer to your question:

- In Entourage calendars ar viewd with the Calendar view. Click the Calendar
icon on the toolbar and it shows you a full fledged calendar, not a bunch of
'calendar items'.

- If you feel the Calendar _folder_ is confusing for your users, I can
understood it can be excluded from being published throug IMAP. So you can
tunr it off on the Exchange server (in any event this can be done with
public folders; i am not sure whether it can be donewith the Calendar
folder).

On 05-08-2003 23:48, in article BB55905B.20FD%caikman@bloomington.in.us,
"Chuck Aikman" <caikman@bloomington.in.us> wrote:

> James,
>
> I see a couple of others have responded correctly to this question.
> Entourage is accessing Public Folders using IMAP, which does not support
> Calendar and Contact data, or we'd have all been doing it already. Big
> shortcoming, I know!
>
> There's a help file doc with a good summary of what this new client does and
> doesn't do. It's titled "What's synchronized with the Exchange server"
>
> Here's the blurb on Public Folder data:
>
> Public folders
> Public folders of all types (messages, contacts, and Calendar items) stored
> on the Exchange server are not synchronized with Entourage. You may be able
> to view and use public folders containing messages if your Exchange account
> administrator has configured the Exchange server to display these using
> IMAP. For more information, see your Exchange account administrator.
>
> Chuck
>
>
> On 8/5/03 2:50 PM, in article
> 9d0cfccf.0308051150.3f808cb9@posting.google.com, "James Richardson"
> <jimrich@io.com> wrote:
>
>> I have what I hope is a relatively simple question for the kind MVP's
>> in the forum to answer. I've got an Exchange 2000 SP3 sandbox server
>> in my office for testing purposes, and unlike some others here on the
>> forums, I've been able to get email and contact and calandar syncing
>> to work fine with my account. Bravo. The question I have is that the
>> public contacts and public calandar folders appear (like others have
>> noted) as a folder full of messages. Is there ANY way to view and
>> modify a public folder calandar in the same way you can with Outlook
>> 2001? If it is a top-level folder limitation, perhaps I could see
>> that, but without this capability, my clients are going to see this as
>> a relatively useless upgrade; and after hours of trolling docs, this
>> forum and several others, I have yet to see any clarification of ths
>> (hopefully) simple question...
>

jimrich
Wed Aug 06 09:14:32 CDT 2003

Thanks for the responses and clarifications, I see that several others
have now posted the same observations and limitations, but it is nice
to know that I wasn't just experiencing a misconfiguration problem.
I'm not sure why you don't understand the question, but as others have
pointed out in threads above, without the capability to browse public
folders and contacts, give permissions to others to browse your own
folders, or even change your password, I think it is quite misleading
to label this update as giving Entourage users Exchange compatibility.
Sure, I can now sync my personal calandar to the server (but I can't
give permission for anyone else to look at it), and I can browse the
GAL, but this "upgrade" doesn't even come close to delivering true
Exchange compatibility. Perhaps there will be a port of Evolution
soon (let's hope)...


James Richardson
605 Networks


Lieven Baeten <lieven_baeten@informaat.nl> wrote in message news:<BB56A165.7168%lieven_baeten@informaat.nl>...
> I am not sure if I understand the question completely, but here is what I
> guess is the answer to your question:
>
> - In Entourage calendars ar viewd with the Calendar view. Click the Calendar
> icon on the toolbar and it shows you a full fledged calendar, not a bunch of
> 'calendar items'.
>
> - If you feel the Calendar _folder_ is confusing for your users, I can
> understood it can be excluded from being published throug IMAP. So you can
> tunr it off on the Exchange server (in any event this can be done with
> public folders; i am not sure whether it can be donewith the Calendar
> folder).
>
> On 05-08-2003 23:48, in article BB55905B.20FD%caikman@bloomington.in.us,
> "Chuck Aikman" <caikman@bloomington.in.us> wrote:
>
> > James,
> >
> > I see a couple of others have responded correctly to this question.
> > Entourage is accessing Public Folders using IMAP, which does not support
> > Calendar and Contact data, or we'd have all been doing it already. Big
> > shortcoming, I know!
> >
> > There's a help file doc with a good summary of what this new client does and
> > doesn't do. It's titled "What's synchronized with the Exchange server"
> >
> > Here's the blurb on Public Folder data:
> >
> > Public folders
> > Public folders of all types (messages, contacts, and Calendar items) stored
> > on the Exchange server are not synchronized with Entourage. You may be able
> > to view and use public folders containing messages if your Exchange account
> > administrator has configured the Exchange server to display these using
> > IMAP. For more information, see your Exchange account administrator.
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> >
> > On 8/5/03 2:50 PM, in article
> > 9d0cfccf.0308051150.3f808cb9@posting.google.com, "James Richardson"
> > <jimrich@io.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I have what I hope is a relatively simple question for the kind MVP's
> >> in the forum to answer. I've got an Exchange 2000 SP3 sandbox server
> >> in my office for testing purposes, and unlike some others here on the
> >> forums, I've been able to get email and contact and calandar syncing
> >> to work fine with my account. Bravo. The question I have is that the
> >> public contacts and public calandar folders appear (like others have
> >> noted) as a folder full of messages. Is there ANY way to view and
> >> modify a public folder calandar in the same way you can with Outlook
> >> 2001? If it is a top-level folder limitation, perhaps I could see
> >> that, but without this capability, my clients are going to see this as
> >> a relatively useless upgrade; and after hours of trolling docs, this
> >> forum and several others, I have yet to see any clarification of ths
> >> (hopefully) simple question...
> >

Dan
Wed Aug 13 13:31:03 CDT 2003

I thought the Calendar sharing and display was via WebDAV, which is
capable...?

On 8/5/03 2:48 PM, in article BB55905B.20FD%caikman@bloomington.in.us,
"Chuck Aikman" <caikman@bloomington.in.us> wrote:

> James,
>
> I see a couple of others have responded correctly to this question.
> Entourage is accessing Public Folders using IMAP, which does not support
> Calendar and Contact data, or we'd have all been doing it already. Big
> shortcoming, I know!
>
> There's a help file doc with a good summary of what this new client does and
> doesn't do. It's titled "What's synchronized with the Exchange server"
>
> Here's the blurb on Public Folder data:
>
> Public folders
> Public folders of all types (messages, contacts, and Calendar items) stored
> on the Exchange server are not synchronized with Entourage. You may be able
> to view and use public folders containing messages if your Exchange account
> administrator has configured the Exchange server to display these using
> IMAP. For more information, see your Exchange account administrator.
>
> Chuck
>
>
> On 8/5/03 2:50 PM, in article
> 9d0cfccf.0308051150.3f808cb9@posting.google.com, "James Richardson"
> <jimrich@io.com> wrote:
>
>> I have what I hope is a relatively simple question for the kind MVP's
>> in the forum to answer. I've got an Exchange 2000 SP3 sandbox server
>> in my office for testing purposes, and unlike some others here on the
>> forums, I've been able to get email and contact and calandar syncing
>> to work fine with my account. Bravo. The question I have is that the
>> public contacts and public calandar folders appear (like others have
>> noted) as a folder full of messages. Is there ANY way to view and
>> modify a public folder calandar in the same way you can with Outlook
>> 2001? If it is a top-level folder limitation, perhaps I could see
>> that, but without this capability, my clients are going to see this as
>> a relatively useless upgrade; and after hours of trolling docs, this
>> forum and several others, I have yet to see any clarification of ths
>> (hopefully) simple question...
>