Problem with "RE<space>:"

I have a french MS Office 2004, and when I reply Entourage automatically add
a space between "RE" and ":". Does anyone know how to avoid that behaviour ?
It is very inconvenient to other news readers. I have also a problem with
automatic capitals at the begining of sentences. It's rather inconvenient.
Is there a way to disable any automatic correction like these ? I disabled
spell correction, but it changes nothing to this.

Daiya
Sun Jun 19 11:18:35 CDT 2005

Look under Tools | AutoCorrect re the capitalized sentences (same place as
in Word).

I'm guessing that the RE[space]: is because French grammar demands a space
before the colon, and spellcheck is in effect in the subject line....

Disabling "check spelling as you type" didn't fix the RE[space]: problem?
Now I'm curious about where that setting might be...it ought to be grammar
check controlling it but I don't think there's a "check grammar as you type"
setting in Entourage. I wonder if it picks up Word's?

It's conceivable that experimenting with the AutoCorrect options and
Exceptions might also make a difference, though I doubt it.


On 6/19/05 7:13 AM, "Jean-Claude Arbaut" wrote:

>
> I have a french MS Office 2004, and when I reply Entourage automatically add
> a space between "RE" and ":". Does anyone know how to avoid that behaviour ?
> It is very inconvenient to other news readers. I have also a problem with
> automatic capitals at the begining of sentences. It's rather inconvenient.
> Is there a way to disable any automatic correction like these ? I disabled
> spell correction, but it changes nothing to this.
>

Jean-Claude
Sun Jun 19 13:17:31 CDT 2005




Le 19/06/2005 18:18, dans BEDAE8EB.35176%daiyaNOSPAM@mvps.org.INVALID,
« Daiya Mitchell » <daiyaNOSPAM@mvps.org.INVALID> a écrit :

> Look under Tools | AutoCorrect re the capitalized sentences (same place as
> in Word).
>
> I'm guessing that the RE[space]: is because French grammar demands a space
> before the colon, and spellcheck is in effect in the subject line....
>
> Disabling "check spelling as you type" didn't fix the RE[space]: problem?
> Now I'm curious about where that setting might be...it ought to be grammar
> check controlling it but I don't think there's a "check grammar as you type"
> setting in Entourage. I wonder if it picks up Word's?
>
> It's conceivable that experimenting with the AutoCorrect options and
> Exceptions might also make a difference, though I doubt it.

It's ok for capitals now (I didn't look at all options), but not this
"space" problem. In Word both works, but there are many more options (didn't
bother - unchecked all :-)).
It seems possible to change the "respond message", i.e. "somebody wrote:",
but not the title. And I suspect it's hard-coded (or set as option), and not
the result of spell check. If only I knew where it is ! It would even be
possible to patch the executable file :-)

Thanks for your help.


>
>
> On 6/19/05 7:13 AM, "Jean-Claude Arbaut" wrote:
>
>>
>> I have a french MS Office 2004, and when I reply Entourage automatically add
>> a space between "RE" and ":". Does anyone know how to avoid that behaviour ?
>> It is very inconvenient to other news readers. I have also a problem with
>> automatic capitals at the begining of sentences. It's rather inconvenient.
>> Is there a way to disable any automatic correction like these ? I disabled
>> spell correction, but it changes nothing to this.
>>
>

Michel
Sun Jun 19 16:33:41 CDT 2005

Hi,
if I remember correctly, the "RE :" issue has been addressed before. The
problem is, as Daiya said, that the French e-mail convention requires the
space before the colon, and non-French versions of Entourage (and some other
e-mail clients, too) do not recognise this as a standard "RE:", which is why
this part is repeated time and time again in the subject line. As far as I
know, there is no way of changing this, and it's clearly an Entourage issue.

Michel


On 19.06.05 20:17, in article BEDB835B.5C2D%jean-claude.arbaut@laposte.net,
"Jean-Claude Arbaut" <jean-claude.arbaut@laposte.net> wrote:

>
> It's ok for capitals now (I didn't look at all options), but not this
> "space" problem. In Word both works, but there are many more options (didn't
> bother - unchecked all :-)).
> It seems possible to change the "respond message", i.e. "somebody wrote:",
> but not the title. And I suspect it's hard-coded (or set as option), and not
> the result of spell check. If only I knew where it is ! It would even be
> possible to patch the executable file :-)
>
> Thanks for your help.

Jean-Claude
Sun Jun 19 16:59:46 CDT 2005




On 19/06/2005 23:33, Michel Bintener wrote:

> Hi,
> if I remember correctly, the "RE :" issue has been addressed before. The
> problem is, as Daiya said, that the French e-mail convention requires the
> space before the colon, and non-French versions of Entourage (and some other
> e-mail clients, too) do not recognise this as a standard "RE:", which is why
> this part is repeated time and time again in the subject line. As far as I
> know, there is no way of changing this, and it's clearly an Entourage issue.
>
> Michel
>

Thanks. At least I know there is no solution. Unless finding where
this damn "Re :" is located in MS Entourage executable files, but
it doesn't please me much :-)

Daiya
Sun Jun 19 21:54:17 CDT 2005

>> if I remember correctly, the "RE :" issue has been addressed before. The
>> problem is, as Daiya said, that the French e-mail convention requires the
>> space before the colon, and non-French versions of Entourage (and some other
>> e-mail clients, too) do not recognise this as a standard "RE:", which is why
>> this part is repeated time and time again in the subject line. As far as I
>> know, there is no way of changing this, and it's clearly an Entourage issue.
>>

> Thanks. At least I know there is no solution. Unless finding where
> this damn "Re :" is located in MS Entourage executable files, but
> it doesn't please me much :-)
>
WARNING! I have no idea how this works and am wildly guessing! Experiment
at your own risk!

Previous discussions about the German version using AW instead of RE sent
people to using a resource editor to change something. This may have a
similar fix. Here is all the info I found, going off a vague memory.

See the very bottom of this link:
http://www.entourage.mvps.org/faq_topic/cc_bcc_fw.html

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/microsoft.public.mac.office.entourage/br
owse_frm/thread/ee2bdf36cf50296a/533db95c25965cc6

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/microsoft.public.mac.office.entourage/br
owse_frm/thread/3ca7396f00886381/558a1805c935f499

And I think this is the French Mac MS group where they might already have
found a fix if one exists.
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/microsoft.public.fr.mac

Daiya

Jean-Claude
Mon Jun 20 17:02:59 CDT 2005





These links seem to lead to "something", I'll post the
solution if I find one.

Thanks everybody for all interesting ideas.


On 20/06/2005 04:54, Daiya Mitchell wrote:

>>> if I remember correctly, the "RE :" issue has been addressed before. The
>>> problem is, as Daiya said, that the French e-mail convention requires the
>>> space before the colon, and non-French versions of Entourage (and some other
>>> e-mail clients, too) do not recognise this as a standard "RE:", which is why
>>> this part is repeated time and time again in the subject line. As far as I
>>> know, there is no way of changing this, and it's clearly an Entourage issue.
>>>
>
>> Thanks. At least I know there is no solution. Unless finding where
>> this damn "Re :" is located in MS Entourage executable files, but
>> it doesn't please me much :-)
>>
> WARNING! I have no idea how this works and am wildly guessing! Experiment
> at your own risk!
>
> Previous discussions about the German version using AW instead of RE sent
> people to using a resource editor to change something. This may have a
> similar fix. Here is all the info I found, going off a vague memory.
>
> See the very bottom of this link:
> http://www.entourage.mvps.org/faq_topic/cc_bcc_fw.html
>
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/microsoft.public.mac.office.entourage/br
> owse_frm/thread/ee2bdf36cf50296a/533db95c25965cc6
>
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/microsoft.public.mac.office.entourage/br
> owse_frm/thread/3ca7396f00886381/558a1805c935f499
>
> And I think this is the French Mac MS group where they might already have
> found a fix if one exists.
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/microsoft.public.fr.mac
>
> Daiya
>