My Day in Menu Bar

Has anybody had any luck getting My Day to appear in the menu bar? It is a preference setting under general; however, when I try to change it I says the application needs to be restarted, then after the restart it reverts back to having My Day load in the dock. Any suggestions?

Diane
Tue Jan 15 22:37:20 CST 2008

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On 1/15/08 2:36 PM, in article ee88978.-1@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw,
"KJH@officeformac.com" <KJH@officeformac.com> wrote:

> Has anybody had any luck getting My Day to appear in the menu bar? It is a
> preference setting under general; however, when I try to change it I says the
> application needs to be restarted, then after the restart it reverts back to
> having My Day load in the dock.

It works for me. Test in a new User. Go to System Preferences and create a
new test User. Open My Day in the new user and see if your preferences is
honored in the new User. If it works, this indicates a problem in your
User¹s preferences.

--
Diane, Microsoft Mac MVP (MVPs are not Microsoft Employees)
Entourage Help Page <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/>
Entourage Help Blog <http://blog.entourage.mvps.org/>

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KJH
Wed Jan 16 21:26:32 CST 2008

Thanks Diane! I tried what you suggested and it worked with the other user. I trashed the preferences file on my user and now it works! Thanks for your help.

David
Fri Jan 18 21:05:55 CST 2008

Which preferences file needs to be deleted?

Andy
Sat Jan 19 09:20:40 CST 2008

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This can happen if you don¹t have read/write permissions on the
application¹s bundle. When you change it to menu-bar mode, the app has to
modify a file within itself. If it doesn¹t have write permission, it cannot
do so and your preference change won¹t be reflected.

-Andy

On 1/15/08 2:36 PM, in article ee88978.-1@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw,
"KJH@officeformac.com" <KJH@officeformac.com> wrote:

> Has anybody had any luck getting My Day to appear in the menu bar? It is a
> preference setting under general; however, when I try to change it I says the
> application needs to be restarted, then after the restart it reverts back to
> having My Day load in the dock.
>
> Any suggestions?

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This can happen if you don’t have read/write permissi=
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mode, the app has to modify a file within itself.  If it doesn’t =
have write permission, it cannot do so and your preference change won’=
t be reflected. 
 
-Andy 
 
 
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etting My Day to appear in the menu bar?  It is a preference setting un=
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in the dock. 
 
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David
Sat Jan 19 11:13:07 CST 2008

Ok, so again, what preference file needs to be deleted, and where does one go to change the read/write permissions on the appropriate files?

Andy
Sat Jan 19 14:56:35 CST 2008

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To get it to work as expected, you¹ll need read/write on the My Day
application inside your Applications/Microsoft Office 2008/Office/ folder.

-Andy

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> Ok, so again, what preference file needs to be deleted, and where does one go
> to change the read/write permissions on the appropriate files?

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-Andy 
 
 
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William
Sat Jan 19 15:16:50 CST 2008

Andy Ruff wrote:
> This can happen if you don?t have read/write permissions on the
> application?s bundle. When you change it to menu-bar mode, the app has
> to modify a file within itself. If it doesn?t have write permission, it
> cannot do so and your preference change won?t be reflected.

WHAT, WHAT, WHAT!!!?

I've been trying to determine which preferences need trashing and what's
wrong with my system because I couldn't get this to work. (I run as a
Standard user.) Now, that I've modified my bundle app my My Day now
appears in my menu.

But why is that? No user should ever need to modifying anything in a
shared space like the Applications folder. This goes against best
practices for application development on Mac OS X!

I know you well enough, Andy, to think that this must have been some
sort of trade-off. I can't believe you'd allow this without a damned
good reason. So, why can't this be a simple user preference? What
requires that the switch between a Dock item and a menu bar item require
a change in the application bundle?

--

bill

William M. Smith, Microsoft Interop MVP - Mac/Windows
Entourage Help Page <http://entourage.mvps.org/>
Entourage Help Blog <http://blog.entourage.mvps.org/>

Andy
Sat Jan 19 16:05:55 CST 2008

On 1/19/08 1:16 PM, in article ubxocCuWIHA.6140@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl,
"William Smith" <mecklists@REM0VETH1S.comcast.net> wrote:

>
> WHAT, WHAT, WHAT!!!?
>
> I've been trying to determine which preferences need trashing and what's
> wrong with my system because I couldn't get this to work. (I run as a
> Standard user.) Now, that I've modified my bundle app my My Day now
> appears in my menu.
>
> But why is that? No user should ever need to modifying anything in a
> shared space like the Applications folder. This goes against best
> practices for application development on Mac OS X!
>
> I know you well enough, Andy, to think that this must have been some
> sort of trade-off. I can't believe you'd allow this without a damned
> good reason. So, why can't this be a simple user preference? What
> requires that the switch between a Dock item and a menu bar item require
> a change in the application bundle?

The reason this happens is the bit that determines if an app appears in the
Dock is set within the application bundle's Info.plist. When you modify
your pref, it modifies this bit. That bit is then read by Launch Services
when you run the app. It's never been something that could be set at the
user-level. In Tiger, this rarely was fine. Leopard changed the defaults
such that an app modifying itself was much harder without user action. There
might be a way for developers to do this at the user-level now in Leopard,
but there's no documentation saying one way or another yet.

-Andy

William
Sat Jan 19 16:57:46 CST 2008

Andy Ruff wrote:

> The reason this happens is the bit that determines if an app appears in the
> Dock is set within the application bundle's Info.plist. When you modify
> your pref, it modifies this bit. That bit is then read by Launch Services
> when you run the app. It's never been something that could be set at the
> user-level. In Tiger, this rarely was fine. Leopard changed the defaults
> such that an app modifying itself was much harder without user action. There
> might be a way for developers to do this at the user-level now in Leopard,
> but there's no documentation saying one way or another yet.

Thanks, Andy!

I've posted instructions for making the change on The Entourage Help
Blog
<http://blog.entourage.mvps.org/2008/01/my_day_menu_bar_fix_requires_change_to_application_permissio.html>.

--

bill

William M. Smith, Microsoft Interop MVP - Mac/Windows
Entourage Help Page <http://entourage.mvps.org/>
Entourage Help Blog <http://blog.entourage.mvps.org/>

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