Allen
Thu Jan 24 10:25:35 CST 2008
Just so you know, Microsoft's MacBU keeps promising to add "format=flowed"
to Entourage (which, basically, is unwrapped text without automatic line
endings), something many other mail clients have. The item keeps getting
bumped by things Microsoft considers higher priority (more people asking for
it). Some users (but apparently not enough of us) have been clamoring for
this addition for years, and it is definitely on MacBU's radar...so
possibly, if you and whoever else who reads this and wants this capability
would use the Help menu's "Send feedback" option to request it directly from
Microsoft, we might generate enough noise to raise its priority.
> From: aRKay <arkayREMOVE@qsl.net>
> Organization: Mac G4 1GHz
> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.mac.office.entourage
> Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 04:02:00 GMT
> Subject: Re: Entourage 2008 auto LF's
>
> In article <slrnfpbvtn.gc.adamb@peregrinus.akb.lull.org>,
> Adam Bailey <adamb@lull.org> wrote:
>
>> aRKay <arkayREMOVE@qsl.net> wrote:
>>> In article
>>> <arkayREMOVE-6B4B56.09533917012008@news.houston.sbcglobal.net>,
>>> aRKay <arkayREMOVE@qsl.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Now that Entourage 2008 is released can someone tell me if it still adds
>>>> automatic LF's (line feeds) after 72 characters.
>>>>
>>>> This is my only real objection to Entourage 2004 and may determine if I
>>>> upgrade to 2008 or have to change to another program.
>>>
>>> I posted the above on 17-Jan and did not receive a response. I would
>>> really like to know if Microsoft listened and ditched the auto LF for
>>> Plain Text messages.
>>
>> I have a memory of replying to your message, but it appears to have
>> vanished into the nether. Perhaps I replied to someone else on another
>> forum.
>>
>> Yes, Entourage still wraps plain text messages, as it is encouraged to do by
>> Internet standards (RFC 2822, 2.1.1). All email clients do this, although
>> some allow you to turn it off on a case-by-case basis. Entourage does not,
>> unless you use HTML.
>>
>>> The reason is my Entourage plain text email message sent to various
>>> Yahoo groups show up as broken text due to LF's.
>>
>> I can't imagine why. The recommendation is 78 characters - if Entourage is
>> doing 72 (to allow for multiple levels of quoting), that would cause less
>> problems - not more.
>
> Thank you for responding. I wish it was better news. Looks like I may
> have to consider changing to Apple's Mail that sends plain text without
> adding its own LF's (or whatever) after 72 characters. Entourage really
> trashes messages sent to the various Yahoo groups. I even tried using
> HTML. It was better but Entourage still adds some LF's
>
> I just did a quick read of the RFC 2822, 2.1.1 and I don't think
> Entourage is compliant. The RFC says ".....Each line of characters MUST
> be no more than 998 characters, and SHOULD be no more than 78
> characters, excluding the CRLF."
>
> For plain text messages, I let Entourage wrap the text and no line is
> ever more than 78 characters and I manually add a return to start each
> new paragraph. This works in Apple Mail but Entourage seems to add
> something like a LF after 78 characters and must ignore paragraph
> returns.
>
> Users that only deal with other Microsoft Entourage users will not see
> the problem.
>
> No need to respond. I will have to live with the trashy format or
> change to another mail application.